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OVA200:
Werey don spin go philosophy.

You know philosophy then you insinuate 3 ATB can't play expansive football.

What is Tuchel and pochettino philosophy of coaching?

This is Pochettino's own: show us TT's own in Chelsea.

OVA200:
I'm fulfill today for showing to everybody how you yarn shit with confidence.

Fulfilled.

At least show us you don't have the regular H factor and smello tendencies.

OVA200:
You get alot of things wrong that day.
The first one you think spurs play only one corner.
Two you think the ball was not in play when the foul happen hence your reason for saying it will not be a free kick for Chelsea.

But after I corrected your goof why don't you say thank you or at least acknowledge you were wrong instead you ghosted.

Because you, a Chelsea fan, watched the highlights many times to ascertain that the ball was in play when Romero pulled Cucu's hair? Is that the brownie point you want?

You can take it. Who is trying to win a rat race with you? I am a lion you are a rat. You have won.

OVA200:
Lol
You don dey make me laugh.

Formation have little to do with how expansive a team play.
Mourinho, Simeon uses 433 to defend and pep, klopp use it to attack.
Madrid and Barca play same 433 but one is majorly low pressing and the other high pressing.

Do you mean Tuchel and Conte play the same way because of 343?

I swear you be big olodo.

Do you know what "Philosophy" means? Remember I asked you to factor a coaches' Philosophy when discussing his attacking pedigree.

I am not offended that you think I am an olodo. You are one which we have all established and fortunately for me it does not take one to know one.

OVA200:
Werey wan run.
No chance for that today.

I could not make out what you were saying from the pile of nonsense. E ma bi nu si mi.

OVA200:
You do yourself the favor and stop disgracing yourself further.

You are so sure the corner will be taken irrespective of the VAR or referee decision which I corrected you.
You can bring all the chat that we exchange that up.

And you did not rest when I debunk your rubbish you ghosted.
I even mention you; you did not reply.

I said post the screenshot where I said without a doubt the ball was in play?

I said as long as the ball was not in play the ref can only send Romero off. I said it. That the corner would have stood if the ball was not in play. Your moniker should be under100. That is your IQ.

OVA200:
Werey.
You enter my hand today.

The reason I posted that stat is because you said Chelsea doesn't not play expansive football like Liverpool and Brighton.

And I posted that stat because high-line is one of the best metric to determine an expansive play.

lol just tell us you don't understand formations or tactics in general. 3 at the back high line is for expansive play?

Amoto94:
Was it not under Tuchel that Dembele and Auba cooked that year with attacking football? Tuchel took lowly rated Mainz to Europe if I'm not mistaken with attacking football. Under him Neymar cooked in PSG likewise Mbappe.

Our misfiring and incompetent attacking players are to be blamed for this recency bias against Tuchel. Take for instance against Leicester Sterling missed a couple of chances and Havertz couldn't attack the box while some balls were played.

I can equally bring years where Pochettino's teams defended well but is he a defensive coaching juggernaut like Mourinho, Capello etc? No.

That is the point.

Who will watch Nottingham Forrest today vs Tottenham and conclude that Tottenham were set up to attack?

But who won? Who scored more?

Now you can see that scoring more does not always translate to better attacking set up.

Tottenham were defensive today and played on the counter. Nottingham were clearly more innovative in attack.

OVA200:
I pull that up when you said pochettino is trying to the PSG team he inherited from Tuchel which is not balance and only good at attack.
To show you it's a lie that he want to balance the PSG because if he want to the defensive aspect will not be worse.

English please. I don't speak fluent gibberish like you.

lateefGRDT:
you disrespected yourself by ghosting when you should have payed your debt and chopped off your hands!!

Can you bring any proof that I owe anyone money and that I should have chopped my hands off?

I am interested in seeing the proof. Thanks.

OVA200:
You still dey lie when you are faces with clear evidence.

Show me where you stated IF the ball was in play in the screenshot I posted.

Or is WOULD same as IF?

Do you know what it means for a ball to be in play? Abi you did not see where I said WHEN the cross came in. Why are you avoiding the other conversations that ensued? Is your name KingBolton? Did I not converse with you? Bring the screenshots where I even told you my recollection of the corner was that Romero already was pulling the hair before the cross came in.

All these self-disrespecting bellends sef.

OVA200:
Alaye stop being cocky.
The picture i posted clearly show which team play high-line most and if you doubt it then head in to The athletic website to read it, so all this rubbish you are saying I have no business with it.

I'm not saying Liverpool did not play high-line or anything I'm just proofing to you that Chelsea also play a high-line and that symbolize we play attacking football.

Just shattap. If you have sworn an oath to be an olodo for the rest of your life must I join you?

Did I tell you Chelsea never played a high line? I said any graphic claiming Chelsea played a high line more times than Liverpool is from a blind and cretinous bellend which you clearly are as well.

WhoDeyHause:
If it's low block, defensive formation or another term all I know he was defending to hit bayern on the counter which mbappe scored his two goals from. Tuchel didn't do that when he coached Dortmund against them.

Did Tuchel win?

OVA200:
You just dey run from pilllar to post.

We did not change our style last season after injury that's why loftus-cheek, pulisic became RWB and tried to recall Emerson palmeri from his loan.

PSG did not have a balance team and we're only good at attack when it's get to pochettino's turn abi.
Then how did Tuchel manage to concede lesser goals to pochettino and despite having way more attacking output?

Who's discussing who is better overall with you.
Proof your claim or shut up.

You are now asking me about conceding less goals even when attacking pedigree is being discussed. lol

OVA200:
Why you dey lie now.
You said the decision of the VAR or referee will have no impact in the retake of the corner.

Abi no be you be this.

Thank you for showing us you can't read. You did not see the part about ball in play? Did I not tell you that my recollection was that the ball was not in play? When you said it was in play did I disagree? Stop wasting my time.

You have just thrown away Lukaku and Werner. Harvetz is now arguing football is not about scoring goals. Just 3 attacking players that have been dogshit under TT.

You guys literally complain about how you don't create enough chances. How your midfielders are not creative and many passes go backwards, sideways and harmlessly.

You depend on your wingbacks for all your creativity. Yet TT is an attacking guru. lol

OVA200:
The article is on their website now.
Go and read it or have you lost your reading ability.

lol what is the high line metric? If I wanted to know which team fouled more or scored more we can collate such data. How will you do so for high line?

Can you tell me the games Liverpool did not play a high line last season?

OVA200:
What about PSG?

Pochettino inherited the squad from Tuchel and even went on to add Lionel Messi but he can't replicate the attacking output of Tuchel.

TT is a good coach. He used attacking formations in his first season there and we saw the results. However, when injuries happened he changed style and the results dipped.

Pochettino did not have a balanced PSG team. They were clearly top heavy and he could not bench anyone. They were good in attack but average else where so of course, the effect was shown.

We are not discussing who is better OVERALL. Stick to attacking philosophies, advanced positions players take, improvements in attacking displays and output in players/teams over the course of their coaching careers. Poch is better than TT in those.

OVA200:
You don begin dey throw jab.
If your brain is working perfectly you should The athletic have a website, and a Twitter page which dey use.

I know the athletic. My point is, nobody can verify that data so it is useless using it.

OVA200:
Let's not go back there again.
You said it's not a free kick because the ball was not in play and spurs will be allow to take the subsequent corner kick irrespective of VAR and referee verdict but I told you the ball is in play and it's a free kick and the subsequent corner should not be taken.
Which I'm very right about.

I said IF the ball was not in play it will only be a red card but the corner still stays with Tottenham. You proved to me that the ball was in play so I rested my case.

WhoDeyHause:
Same pochettino that was parking the bus against Bayern without lewadoski the year before. Was it not counters mbappe scored? He still parked the bus too against city for different part In both legs. I won't even talk about him facing klopp.

Parking the bus is not the same as counter attacking football.

OVA200:
Honestly he too dey yarn rubbish for here.
Same way he was here yarning dust about the foul on cucurella against spurs, until I was force to debunk his rubbish.

You debunked that if the ball was not in play the freekick would have gone to Chelsea or you don't know that was the argument?

OVA200:
Then provide yours?

If The athletic is not more reliable then you can go ahead and provide a more reliable one.

If someone teaches you how to read will they also teach you how to understand? If I want to verify that the athletic data is right, how will I go about it?

OVA200:
If you don't want me to take your word for it then provide your evidence?

I have already answered that pep to wolves he can't better the big boys but he will better his pairs.

Yes a team can be defensive and have possession but their other attacking output will be very low. So to deduce a coach attacking capacity we will check all attacking metric.

You have not provided any evidence for anything you are saying either. Your argument is that Dortmund averaged more goals than Español or Southampton. No shit.

Allowing that goal is a complete fraud.

Kane is offside.

OVA200:
Then provide evidence?

Liverpool did not play higher line than Chelsea I have given you my evidence you either debunk it with fact or provide yours?

Expect that their is no way I will just take your words and believe it.

Your evidence is the athletic screenshot which nobody can verify? How will we be able to ascertain it?

WhoDeyHause:
And he parked his own bus that made real Madrid score the three goals that knocked him out in the last 30 minutes.

lol

I think the conversation has now gone beyond you, bro.

OVA200:
To proof to you that pep coach a more attacking play than Conte is very easy with several stats;
From chance created to;
Number of goals to;
Average Possession per game to;
Highline to;
Number of shot on and off target, and so on.

But you can't do that for pochettino against Tuchel and you expect me to just take your word for it.

I have given you every possible stat to show Tuchel is better at coaching attacking play than pochettino and you can't counter or provide your evidence and you expect me to just believe you as per na YOU now.

I don't want you to take my word for it but at least I want you to understand what is being debated.

The data you have above is great but you are mentioning it with what Pep's teams have been not what they could have been if he was in Wolves. Do you agree that some of those stats will be less than Conte's in Tottenham if Pep was in Wolves?

Do you agree that a team could defensively also have more possession?

We are making progress.

Madrid parked a bus against Pochettino's PSG. Carlo Ancelotti. He parked a bus home and away against PSG.