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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:38pm On Aug 20, 2022
Kantebets:
Ake failed at Chelsea

He was chased out and went to city and is still failing

Salah and KDB failed at Chelsea but shone elsewhere

Ake is a failure

QED
Okay.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:38pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
which one be lol you wan cap? mtcheww make I school you,the only problem with us is our inconsistency in performance ,if not city is not better than us in anyways
Consistency is another measure of comparing and evaluating teams. lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:27pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
which one be city win league again is Chelsea not also winning league? forget man city recent form ,in terms of trophy una no reach Chelsea ,no go there una reach at all
lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:22pm On Aug 20, 2022
Kantebets:
in what areas is Ake better than Chalobah?

Ake that cant even bench David Luiz at Chelsea is who u are hyping like this
I am not hyping him at all. Only saying he is a serviceable LCB.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:21pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
the 60 million we paid for cucurella is better than the 100 million you paid for grealish ,that is the top of his value he will start to decline from there unless he starts to bang steady goals .
lol You guys always make the same arguments and then change as soon as City wins the league again. The only difference between me and you is, I am not arguing about Grealish's or Cucurella's ability.

Grealish may not be worth 100M but Villa contracted him to it so that was the money needed to release him from his contract. Cucu could have been released for 50M. That is what Brighton asked City for. You are paying 12M more than that 50M. You overpaid for him. Period.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:17pm On Aug 20, 2022
Kantebets:
How many times has Ake started when Stones and Laporte we’re fit?
Aké is a squad player and his height, physicality and deficient passing ability is behind Stones and Laporte's so yes they start over him. But he has strong points as well. For e.g, Aké is one of the best 1 v 1 defenders in the world and for his height, the guy can jump.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:13pm On Aug 20, 2022
EmmanuelScott1:
The other guy(hickey) he suggested is still young
I am not arguing against Cucurella or who Chelsea should have signed. I only said Cucurella was not an Aké replacement. Cucurella is good but Chelsea overpaid for him at the same time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:12pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
I don't give a Bleep what was written in de contract ,I get what you are saying, Aston Villa ask for 100 million your club paid as a mugu instead of adding Jara ,now I am telling you that him as a player no worth that amount all this stipulated shit wey u dey cap na Bobo juice.c
I keep saying that you feel he is not worth it does not matter. That is not what makes a player a scam or overpaid for.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:06pm On Aug 20, 2022
Kantebets:
Ake was chased out of Chelsea academy

He can’t make first team once laporte and stones return

At least chalobah hasn’t been chased away from chelsea
Another reductive argument. Salah and KdB did not make it in Chelsea but Chalobah has stayed multiple seasons.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:05pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
only all this ones na long talk, grealish no worth reach £50m ,they scam una. Chelsea didn't overpay sh*t cucurella value will rise in the future while grealish own will dwindle as time goes by
You are still making the same infantile arguments. How can they scam you when you paid what was written in a contract? I told you guys before I don't do all these emotional arguments. You don't need to like a player or even feel he is good.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:02pm On Aug 20, 2022
Itsrm:
No, value is his impact(goals, assists, key passess, chances created, e.t.c) in the games he played else it can argued the games would still have been won without him on the pitch.
That is another measure of value not the only measure. We don't check how many goals Ederson scored or assisted when City won the league.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 3:00pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
no go there , we got both players for less than £100m ,both players are more valuable than jack grealish by far, kante wey dey bag man of the man award for champions league,pocket man city players during champions league finals against una , wetin grealish don do ?
This reductive argument is not what I am here for. Grealish is commercially more relevant than both players. He sells more jerseys for instance. I told you that you don't seem to know what is being argued here. A player's value is not dependent on what you feel about said player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:56pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
man city was the one who valued him for 50m ,man city is not a standard of valuation. for any player .
lol Brighton valued him that much. City valued him at 40M. Stop lying.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:55pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
I swear imagine Android22 justifying his price tag with his number up of appearance cheesy, na appearance I wan see ,with that tag en suppose to dey curl ball put for.post like lampard,
Of course, this is a lie. Number of appearances was to show he did not get "carried" when he won the league. He played his part. I did not even justify his price tag. I only said Villa valued him that much and City paid the
stipulated value not something higher. Whether he is good or not is insignificant.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:52pm On Aug 20, 2022
Katcall:
if i see mancity SD, i go givam dirty slap. For god sake, whats in grealish that i should spend 100m. A player that cannot do without cutting and falling all over the place
lol If someone pays $1.5M for a Richard Mille watch, asking what is in a watch that will make anyone pay that amount is irrelevant. Those watches are very highly valued and some of them can be that expensive. However, if Jay Z decides to sell one of his that he got for $450K, for $1.5M, the person paying for it is overpaying for it. Simple.

Cucurella was valued at 50M but Chelsea are paying 62M potentially for him. That is overpaying for him. Even if he is good.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:47pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
so does that justifies his tag huh, if na like that inaki Willis from atletico Bilbao is worth 300m cheesy,if I had that much appearance without goals I will hide myself
Like Ngolo Kante? Kovacic?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:46pm On Aug 20, 2022
Itsrm:
He's saying he played in 26 out of 38 matches. Very strange way of judging a players impact I must add
If a player plays 70% of the time on a team that won, that is value. Hazard was useless to RM winning the champions league last season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:44pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
answer me o Android22 ,since you want to lecture us on overpaying ,that £100m would have gotten youtwo good midfielder for less
Your argument does not make any sense because you keep reading me from the perspective that I think Cucurella is not a good player. I am not discussing whether he is good or not. After City refused paying over 40M for Cucurella, we went and spent 15M on the plan B. One would have argued that there was no need to have ever gone for him when the plan B option was clearly cheaper but that is not how it works. The only difference is, City wanted to pay a fair price for the player not 22M more than that fair price. If you don't get it, just let it soak. Next year you will get it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:38pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ihebu4chelsea:
Imagine.... Grealish is worth 30m -50m
Captain of Villa, on a new contract at 25 years old at the time with the top 10 selling jersey in the league plus having a ridiculously symmetrical face as an English player. lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:35pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ihebu4chelsea:
Oga City Overpaid for a Flop( Grealish) Admit it ....
I know that comprehension may be an issue but if you pay what is stipulated as the price of something you cannot overpay for it. Overpaying for a player will be paying more than what was stipulated. Grealish is also a premier league winner - he was not before he signed for City and he contributed 26 of the 38 games that were needed to win the league.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:28pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
then why did you pay ,did Villa point gun on man city head to overpay for an average midfielder? ,I am starting to think guardiola is joining with this clubs to swindle man city cash ,man city sheikh wise up by force .
If Villa had asked City to pay 120M, City would have rejected it because that would have been 20M more than Grealish's contract stipulates he can go for. This is the very reason City did not sign Kane, or Koulibaly or Maguire. That you feel he is average or not is immaterial.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:24pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
okay o , but you overpaid for grealish
You can't technically overpay for something that is written down in a contract. You may feel the thing or person is not worth it - that is within your rights. But you cannot successfully argue it. Overpayment is when you knowingly pay far more than what you are contractually allowed to pay.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:21pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
is kind of funny ,when Chelsea does it it's overpaying ,if it's other club it's smart , please tell me how does someone justifies paying £100m for an average midfielder, you are telling me Aston Villa needed the money does that not sounds dumb are man city now a charity organization , SMH.
Nobody told you this, so stop lying. I said he was worth that to Villa which is why they wrote it into his contract.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:16pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
so in other words,man city mugu , cause I don't see why someone will pay that much for one player ,unless he was banging much goals , Chelsea got Sterling and koulibaly for less than that £100m,
And City got Haaland for half the price of Lukaku. Let your argument be consistent. You paid the same amount for Lukaku and unlike him, Grealish is at least still playing for City a season after. I don't know why you are trying to change the argument into whether I care that Chelsea got Cucurella or not. I am here to say stop lying about why City wanted him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:06pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
smae way you overpaid for grealish ,so what is point? you overpaid for player that is what at least £50m , person wey Sterling better pass by far
The difference is Grealish's release clause was 100M. He may not be worth it but he was definitely worth that to Aston Villa. Cucurella was signed for 15M and his improved market value was 30M. Paying potentially 2 times his market value is overpaying for him. Additionally, Grealish is not a winger even though Pep plays him there. Find out how that knowledge applies to you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 2:00pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
stating we overpayed for cucurella is nothing but pain and jealousy coming from city fans ,your. mumu fraudiola has spent close to. £1bn for on top players head ,that is a full sovereign nation defense budget if you don't know ,yet he has failed to win champions league ,tuchel came and did for less, city not paying for cucurella doesn't make smart, they were tired of wasting money without winning league
You can overpay for a good player. That does not mean he was not overpaid for. Cucurella was signed for 15M a season before he was sold for potentially 62M. That is called overpaying for a player. Yet that is not what I came to challenge here. I challenged the lie that he was an Aké replacement. That is all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 1:46pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
jack grealish was bought for £100m ,28 appearance ,3 goals ,yet your problem na cucurella ,face front
You don't have to lie about his appearances in general. In the league alone he has had 28 appearances out of a possible 40 which includes being out due to injuries.

I don't know why you are replying without understanding my post. Nobody is arguing that Cucurella is not good. I am not even arguing that he is not worth what you paid for him - I don't care. I said that Chelsea fans should stop lying about why City tried to sign him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 1:36pm On Aug 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
look at this.mumu man city fan , have you justified jack grealish price tag? no ,then shut your trap
His release clause was paid for.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 1:35pm On Aug 20, 2022
Kantebets:
Ake is useless as a LCB

Not better than Chalobah
lol If you believe this, good for you. You always have the best players until City wins the league then you turn around to claim City always had the best players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 1:22pm On Aug 20, 2022
Have your Cucurella takes and justify overpaying for him but stop lying about Manchester City.

The manager of Manchester City has said on many occasions that the club and not him, buys players. His duty is to identify the talent and mention it to the club. If the selling club does not offer a reasonable price which City is willing to pay, they back off. The historical evidence backing this is more than enough.

City never considered Cucurella a LCB. Pep needed him to play LB/LWB. City were trying to get him as the Mendy, not Aké replacement. That is why City went on to get Sergio Gomez (the plan B option) with Aké still on the team.

And Cucurella is a LB/LWB. He is not better than Aké as a LCB. Not in this world and in the world to come. Aké is one of the best 1 v 1 defenders in the league and he literally hangs in the air.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android22: 11:05pm On Aug 19, 2022
Theflint1:
If you read the link I posted you won't be asking these sort of questions.
I read it. Talk another thing cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android22: 7:34pm On Aug 19, 2022
Theflint1:
An MBA 23 years after her first degree. I'm pretty sure there are guys on this thread with a better profile than our current minister of finance.


https://twitter.com/RealOlaudah/status/1560563533955313664?t=u92tkr0fNSILOJJzoyPw4w&s=19[/quote]Therefore competency is a function of education received and credentials obtained rather than actual and quantifiable results? How do you reconcile that with your newfound support for Peter Obi compared to Tinubu whose credentials and education dwarfs those of his competitors?

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