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Zatwo: I want to know if speaking in tongues is compulsory for Christians. Whats d benefit? and wat wuld happen if a christian chooses not to

its jst like asking if athletes need to gym... This is a misleading qstn because whosoever is baptised by d holy spirit will definately speak in tongues...the right qstn woule av bn "IS IT COMPULSORY FOR CHRISTAINS TO BE BAPTISED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT"

Well back to praying in tongues, it used to sound like RUBBISH (it irritated) to me...not until i recievd d baptism of the holy spirit

tintingz: So the god in OT bible repented and learn his mistake by sending his son to sacrifice himself? So Jehovah was not a peaceful god in Old testament. Lol

the coming of Christ was prophesied hundreds of year before he was born.... God had to prepare his people 4d coming of Christ, just as Christ is waiting 4u2 repent b4 he comes again.

lanrexlan: He repented and became a loving God in the new testament,confusion

i guess it wasnt a different god dat brot the 'tablet of commandment' through moses in the quran...was it?

God brought to man a better life through Jesus. This 'life' had been the plan of God, and that was why the coming of Jesus was prophesied hundreds of years before he came.

tintingz: again are they two gods giving commandment in the bible??

its the same God.... He brought to us SALVATION and A NEW and EVERLASTING COVENANT through JESUS CHRIST. The coming of Jesus Christ (the Prince of Peace) brought peace..... After he ascended to heaven, there was no record of war niether did he kill anybody in his reign on earth.

dazzy4real: hmm like i said to b a christian is not an easy job. like today in church my pastor talked about us giving all our attention to ourselves and forgetting God, he used example of if we feel pains den we call God, n yet we have been thought to always call upon him in times of need.

but i must say i believe in speaking in tongues just like the bible said it edifies the body. before in pray i do few worship songs n den pray with my understanding buh wen i start speaking in tongues is as if am seeing God. it works for me makes my prayer go well.

God bless you bro... What i want is for people to share the GREAT experience and testimony of having a LIVING relatnshp with GOD.

Speaking in tounges was like BALDERDASH to me(when my mother prays) but not until i recievd the baptism of the Holy Spirit. So i'm nt surprised at wat pple ar sayin here. Jst pray they experience God

The life Christains live now is a life of a NEW COVENANT (testament) that was patterned by Jesus Christ. You'll notice that after the life of Christ, there was no record of war. In the new covenant, ANY KILLING IN ANY FORM IS A SIN.

To be a successful and impartful christain, a christain who would live the life that Christ wants for us(a life of miracles,signs,wonders, a daily walk and intimate relatnshp with God), we need the baptism of the holy spirit...whosoever who is filled with the holy spirit will definately speak in tongues(its an evidence of the baptism of d holy spirit).

THE RIGHT QUESTION WOULD RATHER BE "IS IT COMPULSORY AS A CHRISTAIN TO BE BAPTISED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT"

Logicboy03: ode.


Jeun soke means "eat up" literally.
Jeun soke actually means "chop up"...."ride on"


This is not about cookies vs biscuit......not about terminologies and synonyms......it is a case of literal vs metaphorical/connotative meaning of a language to a native speaker.

http://www.bokorlang.com/journal/18bible.htm

hmm, i guess d qstn was "why the editing nd versions" dis qstn has bn dealt with already... Ur problem is dat u ar bn logical_ nd i'v passed that level coz i av testd nd seen dat d bible works.
I dunno if a muslim will agree to dat ur point of "a document cnt be translatd to anoda language perfectly"...if dey do, then maybe the english quran has sme problem too.
I'll be stooping TOO LOW to doubt wat i av tried nd seen dat works. I dnt operate in words nd logic anymre but in power....smebdy calld me a pentecostal zombie..my pple dats exactly wat i am!
I leave d argument 2u guys till u experience God.

Logicboy03: lol....that is the point.....the original context of some words in Hebrew/greek etc have been lost......


The direct translation might not mean what they think it means.....


For instance....my friend told me that Jeun soke means "chop up"......I started telling people to "jeun Soke" their food (eat up their food)


Direct translation might not carry the necessary meaning

aw does cookies in US and biscuit in UK change the fact dat both of them are the same thing?
I gues u dnt undrstnd yoruba...if u do, u'l knw dat 'jeun soke' probably has nothing to do with eating food...it's a form of 'hailing somebody to continue he's work'. If 'jeun soke' is to be translatd to english, u'l say "ride on". Now translate dat to ur native dialet...did it relate to "eating up ur food"? Translatns are done in context nd nt wat u ar claiming above.
Wat we'v had isnt a lost bible bt a bible made for evryone to undrstnd!

Logicboy03: Azazel is also a demon or fallen angel....so, your point about translation is not as straightforward as you think it is


There are words that are lost in translation.....the bible is not complete in translation

*dat i am an arsenal FAN doesnt mean i'm the same person rolling on ur cieling or arsen-wenger's cieling*

if in other translatns u av emissary goat, scapegoat, escapegoat, goat dat went, sent-goat etc..what gvs u d convictn dat azazel usd there was a demon nd nt a goat.

plaetton: Let me show you just a few biblical verses that say different things from different bible editions.

Leviticus 16:8

1.New International Version
He is to cast lots for the two goats--one lot for the LORD and the other for the scapegoat.


2.English Standard Version
And Aaron shall cast lots over the two goats, one lot for the LORD and the other lot for Azazeel.


3.Douay-Rheims Bible
And casting lots upon them both, one to be offered to the Lord, and the other to be the emissary goat:


4.Young's Literal Translation
'And Aaron hath given lots over the two goats, one lot for Jehovah, and one lot for a goat of departure;

Now, please , my dear friend, tell me, with your honest intelligent mind, if all the above four renderings of Levicticus 16:8 say the same thing.

Another is psalm 82:1

1. KJV. God standeth in the congregation of the mighty;

he judgeth among the gods.


2. NIV: God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the "gods


3. New Living Translation
God presides over heaven's court ; he pronounces judgment on the heavenly beings:



4. New American Standard Bible
God takes His stand in His own congregation; He judges in the midst of the rulers.

Once again, my friend, Please honestly tell me if the above 4 different renderings of Psalm 82:1 say the same things.

there are differences in this thngs....and the difference is dat they are nt written the same way. Versions of the bible doesnt make them diffrnt... They are all same bt written in diff patterns to make study easy 4d readers.

Az-azel is the hebrew word for scape-goat..emissary goat comes frm the latin trans-litatn of scape goat. As to the other ones, with much honesty, i tell u dat there's no diffrnce in dos thngs.
Let me tell you where u're getting it wrong.
* if at all u read the bible, you read it with dis-honesty, not to get solutns bt to crisisize. Its jst lyk quoting one part of d quran dat says "one shld kill", not reading d whole story, nt knwing wat hapnd b4...and using such verse to judge d whole quran and muslims. Read the bible for once with a sincere heart

plaetton: Ohhhh Migosh!
Unbelievably Dodo bird.

My sincere apologies.
I thought I was discussing with a real person.
I did not know I was engaging with another pentecostal zombie.

I mean, just look at all the garbled crap above.
Whew !
What does all that babble have to do with the op?

Comprehension, comprehension.
That's why most of you all fail English, and yet, you claim to comprehend what you read in the bible.
Nooooo wonder.

i'm nt a philosopher and d bible isnt a maths or literature buk, so i'm nt expectd to cme nd speak LOGIC as you wnt it. The bible says "THE kingdom of God is nt in words bt in POWER"
If in its fakenes still carries POWER for salvatn, healing, deliverance nd eternal lyf and walk with God....then wats d use of the DEBATE?

if its dis same FAKE BIBLE a chronic armed robber lyk SHINA RAMBO read and was saved nd has bcome a preacher, if its this same bible KENETH HAGIN read and was healed 4rm an incurable blood disease and stroke, if its dis same FAKE BIBLE reinhard bonke reads that made a shop attendant to say "i see Christ in your eyes", if its this same FAKE BIBLE pst adeboye reads dat makes him av a VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,if its dis same versions of bible kumuyi reads dat makes God do wndrs thru him....and if its dis same versions of d bible i'v been readin dat made me born again and even recievd the baptism of the Holy Spirit dat was promised thousands of yrs ago...tell me, wch original one do you want me to luk 4?
These versions of the bible are tested and certified because by His power, God is performing great signs nd wonders thru them.
"a buk is fake yet a child reads it and had A1 in his exam...abeg wat will the original produce again. Panadol is fake yet it cured my head ache...pls wch othr work will d original do"

i tell u the truth, NO OTHER BOOK gives you a PERSONAL, INTIMATE AND LIVING RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD other than d bible! It has bn tested nd trustd, even by me! GRAB UR COPY NOW!

Reyginus: Lol. Dude, he is on your side.

lol, sorry bro! I quoted d wrong person!
I raised this same point d other time and nobody answered me.

FOLYKAZE: I will continue having problem with you guys when you dont reason from another angle.

Pls is there no difference between british english, jamaican english and american english?

Make your argument something better pls

i'v u ever read the same verse of the bible from different versions and you got different meanings? If yes, kindly let us know. If no, why do you pple argue?

plaetton: The word "High" is gradually replacing the word "Drunk" in your neighborhood?
Excellent!

So a new edition of your neighborhood bible should read " God most drunk" , instead of "God Most High"?
Lol.
Do you now understand what I mean?
Thank you for helping make my point.

Now that we have made that point clear with the above example, the rest of you should try to have a serious and honest discussion on this issue.

haha...u must be a comedian. I meant high in the sense of been drunk. Look at this:Ephesians 5:18 ''And be not
'drunk' with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit''
i know u would not refer to God as the Most drunk, i cn undrstnd ur anxiety bro.

the issue of tithing is simple! A true believer would never be told before he pays his tithe. Any one who studies his bible well will knw the benefits of tithing. I'v neva heard of the WHITES debating on tithing. Imagine aw much is payed as tax abroad and relate it with their rate of development and compare it with nigeria. ITS A PROBLEM OF MENTALITY!

plaetton: Oh really ?
So it's about language, huh?
Are you sure of that?

Ok then, please kindly tell me since the king James version of the bible was translated, how many different versions of the English language has there been?

Or, better still, how many different versions of the English Language we currently speaking today?
Because, there is at least 50 or more editions of the English bible currently in circulation.

Does Yoruba dialect of english deserve it's edition, Warri, it's own edition too, etc?

Do you now realise that what your rather quick justification does not make much sense?

How come muslims insist that adherents study the Koran in it's original language of Arabic?

i'm sure u didnt do what i asked you to do in the latter part of my post. If u did dat, did u find any difference? If yes, pls let me know.
How do you expect me to read the quran in arabic when i'v never attendend arabic classes? There's no way d quran would be translatd without aving the slightest issue as well.
Take an example... The word HIGH is gradually replacing the word DRUNK... If this change is made in d bible, does it render the bible useless?

The bible was written in hebrews..not everybody understands hebrew so there was a need 4 it to be translated to english. Just lyk any other language, you cnt find translatns to english for all words, u can only find words very similar. Now, english spoken 100 to 200 yrs ago isnt the same spoken now, sme words av bn changed even in the dictionary that we use. So as time goes by nd as sme words fade, dont u think they need to be changed in d bible?
Ur assignement is: take as many versions of d bible u knw and read, u'l find out dey are The same things said said in different ways. Thanks

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