₦airaland Forum

Freiburger: Thats not so relevant, since my intention is not to derail this thread.

Fair enough.
Some other thread. Some other time.

Jeezyy: the type of polity and structure we have in Nigeria can never allow for an evolution, that's why we need to revolt before evolving

I beg to disagree.
We are already making progress, albeit slowly in our evolution to a better, more egalitarian society at different pace in the various states and LGAs that make up our country.
The NASS is slowly waking up to its duties of making laws to address issues concerning their constituents for example. We only need to increase our engagement and involvement to speed up the process.

emiye: Mr PDP apologist ! Why are you so bitter? PDP is a forgone issue in the SW region.

Stop masquerading your real pain with seemingly sincere concern. Things are not the same, Forward ever backward never. Anybody who tries to draw the region backward will not witness the future !

I heartily say a big Amen to your prayer as I know it will come to pass in the lives of the ACN goons, starting with their oga on the top, Tinubu as they are slowly eraing the progressive policies and initiatives of Awolowo and the UPN governors.

BTW,
* if the guys in PDP get their acts right
* exploit the many weaknesses in Aregberascal's maladministration of teh past three years
* nominate a popular, credible and sellable candidate as well as most importantly
* protect him from ACN's death squad so he does not get the Funsho Williams treatment

they will win next year's election. QED.

Freiburger: Look, the Roman soldiers were one of the richest if not the richest in the world then, did your bible told you that they were like fighting sharing for his cloths? and if yes, what does that tells you?

Roman soldiers at what level guarding Jesus Christ on the cross at Calvary
General, Colonel, Major, Sergeant, Corporal or what?

Freiburger: And you think that Jesus was poor.

Yes. Jesus was financially poor.
If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it.
Thanks.

eggheaders: same way you gat loads of jobless tout in the east the pi a zu guys. massob boys and various vigilante gun wielding low lifes with all this in place. your enclave is still an epitome of criminality ranging from armed robbery to kidnapping. let me give you another goodnews from your land the owner of classic cars was shot last week at ABS junction. hey skunkhead we in the south west don't care about religion as long as you deliver result. don't you think it is high time you look inward and start questioning those failures called governors in alaigbo.

So because the north and south east are breeding delinquents the south west must also join the bandwagon

What kind of reasoning is this? I thought we yorubas pride ourselves as leading in GOOD things. that was what the late sage, Awo taught us. I see the Akotiletas (prodigal sons) in ACN are hell bent on squandering that legacy as long as they amass our wealth to themselves just like their fulani friends have done in Nigeria's almost 100 year history.

We will not let that happen to us!

I will, as usual, ignore your insults.
I will continue to resist the temptation of sinking to that gutter level.

Eko Atlantic: Of course the free education program is still on to cater for immigrants from other regions.




Point to one of the institutions I listed that's not located in the old western region?
Were those states they're located not once governed by Awo while under the western region?!

Which free education after you wrote:

Those days of free education are over in SW.

You did not say they were SIMPLY located but gave the impression they were all created by Awo.

Four universities from the old western region under Awolowo

That is a lie.

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As I advised you sometime ago, your lies will be found out so don't lie anymore.
#FriendlyAdvice.

When is the richest man in Africa going to invest in the primary and secondary school education of his Kano people so he does not remain oba idun - king of maggots

I hope he is not waiting for Bill gates to help HIS OWN PEOPLE out of their collective poverty as he has done so far with support for polio vaccination and malaria treatment.
Or maybe Oprah Winfrey will come to Kano people's aid as she did in South Africa with her Girls Academy.
SMH!!!

dbty: Have you noticed the rate of increase in petty rubbery and burglary theft in Lagos lately?
Let see what so called peaceful environment of this country would turn to in the nearest future,if our Government go on with this trends of Governance.
What is happening in North its a big warning for our Goverment to change their ways.

Thanks for this observation.
The elitist policies of the pseudo-progressives shows that we are going to soon have the South west full of agberos, touts, area boys, petty thieves etc just like the almajiris in the north.

Probably that explains why Tinubu and co are ready to sell us into fulani slavery again with their unholy alliance into the Arewa People's Congress, APC.
BTW, I understand ALL their governors are also muslim except Fayemi in Ekiti state.
Quite interesting!!!

Akiika: Firstly, i must acknowledge that your written english is horrible. What do you mean by "Fashola's profligacy against the toiling, hard-working, over-taxed people of Lagos state with VERY LITTLE benefits to show for it." profligacy against toiling??
Do you mean building a beneficial bridge is profligacy? does plying the bridge and cutting commute time by 80% sound like a benefit to you? If you can't pay the toll, pls. stick to the free route and stop whining about paying tolls. Do you even pay any tax? what is the percentage of Lagos residents that pays tax? Look i can understand that some of you guys are so alienated from good governance,...you'll get used to it with time.

I am not here to contest whether my written English is horrible or not. I leave that to others to judge and come to their conclusion.

Do you understand the concept of Opportunity Cost in economics? You may wish to brush up on it if you do already or read about it if you don't.
Yes, the bridge is beneficial but cannot and should not be a priority for a state that has no pipeborne water for its citizens and no free and compulsory education for its children.

Did I make myself clear enough or do I have to repeat myself

rapmike: i will answer u. am sure u are a PDP man. it is easy to condemn FASHOLA for collecting tolls, but should i reminding u that wen the whole south west( except lagos) was ruled by PDP, they were collecting tolls for every federal road that they could see.

I don't have to be a PDP man to point out INADEQUACIES in Fashola's administration, or do I?
Maybe you are saying that because you are defending based on your being an ACN man. Is that so
Why do you have to embellish your post with bold face lies? Which PDP governor was collecting tolls for EVERY federal road in the South West?
Which one
Which federal roads

PDP, especially in the west, are a party that eats up its own members( Peter Odili, Atiku and others i cant remember now) opposition party members and the citizenry.

The last time I checked only Tinubu's AC has given Atiku a presidential ticket to contest against Yaradull in 2007.
You better shine your eyes and polish your knowledge of Nigeria's recent political history before you reply again.

Eko Atlantic: Those days of free education are over in SW. Free education was implemented by Awolowo to encourage Yorubas to study then, while other regions were still in stone age. Yorubas don't need encouragement anyone because every family knows the importance of education. You wonder why SW higher institutions have the highest cut-off and requirement for admission, because competition to gain admission in SW is too high, everybody wants to be a graduate.

Four universities from the old western region under Awolowo were rated the best in the whole country at the beginning of this year:
1. University of Ibadan
2. University of Lagos
3. University of Benin
4. Obafemi Awolowo University(Ile-Ife, Osun state)

Of all the private Unis in Nigeria, SW private unis are performing better.
Covenant uni in Ota(Ogun state) was rated 11th in the whole country, even higher than some federal unis in other regions.
No point of bragging over all these, but clarification is essential.
Watch how this innovation by Aregbe is copied by other states.

Why do you love to lie so much
Schools are still free in the UK and USA so is the SW Nigeria more educated than these countries where our people are going on second slavery

Education is free for all children from 5 to 16.

Full-time education is compulsory for all children aged between 5 and 16 (inclusive) across England. This can be provided by state schools, independent schools, or homeschooling.

About 94 per cent of pupils in England, and the rest of the UK, receive free education from public funds, while 6 per cent attend independent fee paying schools or homeschooling.

Source

Even your ACN manifesto contradicts your obvious lie.

There are compelling political, economic and social reasons for free education for all citizens at all levels, once we can afford.

ACN Manifesto

And where did you get those four universities "under Awolowo"
Lieing is not good!!!

PapaBrowne: But to think about it, its true sha. In six year, the only project over 10 billion Naira that Fashola has completed is the new bridge he just commissioned and we all know that the one is going to earn its money back now now because of the toll. Every other major project is yet to be completed and still looks like a decade from completion.

But Fashola is a great administrator sha. While Labaran Maku I think is somewhat of a bum especially as he is doing a pretty bad job at properly disseminating the extraordinary success that his boss has accomplished in just two years.
His speech is an indictment of his own job.

PDP is full of bums with the hangover of the military mentality as the khakhi boys dominate their party.
They need to change their tactics and do some serious OPPOSITION work at all levels.

Attack is still the best form of defence!

Chubhie: I must say that the ACN propanganda machine is well greased,solid and well structured. In the words of Ohakim prior to the last election he said 'you dont win elections on the pages of newspapers.... You win with structures. PDP has got the structures to win any election' i got to know the true meaning of this statement during the Imo state Gov election which he almost won save for the masses that stayed awake all night. ACN seems to have used sustained well managed propaganda to silence, demonized and vanquished 'opposition' in their controlled states. If ACN is not checked by way of strong oppsition at the state level, the masses may be in for a long ride. PDP should return the favor same way ACN opposes anything from Aso Rock. Maku should stop talking and get down to work.

Could not have put it better.

Olaolufred: CRITICISM IS A HEALTHY THING FOR ANY GOVT. TO DO BETTER.

IT IS ONLY PDP THAT ABHORS IT ABSOLUTELY.

If PDP abhors criticism, why has Mr. Lie Muhammed and Mr. Joe Igbokwe (who is from the other side of the Niger BTW) been very busy attacking PDP for so many years now

ACN is the party that abhors criticism whether internal or external.

Has the Ogbeni paid the owed salaries of lecturers

Did he FULLY implement the N18,000 minimum wage and settle the labour dispute in the state

A ki fi ete sile pa lapalapa - You do not leave leprosy to treat rashes.

PEREP: Really No wonder an Akara Seller cannot think of University Education in LASU nor attempt any of the state owned tertiary institutions anymore due to the killer school fees.

So the thinking is to make Lagos for the RICH only No wonder Tinubu accussed Mimiko of building schools meant for Lagos status ONLY.

No surprises anyway, Lagosians will kick when they start paying taxes for 'breathing' in Lagos after the Lagos Residents' registration been pushed by Fashola Government.

This is AWOism INDEED!!! SMH

I support the state registration scheme as a way to check mate the fraud that goes on in the name of national census. which makes Kano have a higher population than Lagos

However it should not be a pretext for collecting more taxes from the people while not providing COMMENSURATE services to them.
It is rather unfortunate that today's so called elites are children or grand-children of very poor people who "made it" with free education and scholarships of Awolowo and the UPN governors, six and three decades ago.

They can pretend to be Awo's inheritors but it is by their acts that we shall know them.

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HNosegbe: Actually these are reasonable demands to make of any government. But you make it sound like the ACN government is doing NOTHING in that regard, and that is incorrect.

I don't have any exact links right now (maybe Eko Ile or naptu2 can help me out) but I have heard of several pro-people projects of the LASG including:

1. Primary Health Centres.

2. Skill Acquisition Centres.

3. Water works etc.

I just think the tolling issue (as well as the perceived lack of transparency in the management of tax revenues) have made the ACN government pass off as elitist. But saying that NOTHING is being done for the people is untrue, and a tad unfair.

I did not say he has done NOTHING. I said he has done VERY LITTLE:

This is about Fashola's profligacy against the toiling, hard-working, over-taxed people of Lagos state with VERY LITTLE benefits to show for it.

https://www.nairaland.com/1311287/pdp-wants-fashola-impeached-over#16035435

Again, I am very happy for any thing PDP or any other group can do so Fashola and his ACN Lords of the moment will do much more to lift people of Lagos.

Delafruita: what is this one saying?so you're comparing lagos of 1980 with lagos of today.are you alright?how much does lagos get as allocation monthly?less than 7billion naira while ondo gets within the rang of 11-13billion monthly.why not compare lagos of today with bayelsa,delta,rivers, etc....ignoramus

I guess it is about time I hit the IGNORE button.
I don't do insults when there are valid points to be made in a discussion!!!

Jeezyy: the only solution is REVOLUTION.we should forget tribalism n self-centrednes and fight for what is ourz just like what the Arab nations did

I would rather have EVOLUTION that is the R is removed from the revolution. That is what is going on and has been going on in Nigeria for the past 14 years, We need to get more involved beyond simply queue and vote. We need to hold ALL our leaders accountable.

BTW, revolutions usually replace one set of bare-faced rogues with more cunning, propaganda fuelled "comrades". You can compare Britain and France where the former evolved while the latter had a revolution. Social mobility in Britain is much better than France.
Egypt revolution is another recent example of unintended consequencies of revolutions.

Let's get more involved and stay more engaged in our democratic process for optimu dividends.

Delafruita: which increased fedreal revenue allocation?bayelsa state gets almost double what lagos gets monthly.were you on the moon when 13% derivation was passed?

Why are you comparing oranges (Lagos now) with apples (Bayelsa now)?
I said increased federal allocation from Niger Delta oil based on population increase in Lagos. One would expect you to compare federal allocation when Lagos had 5-7m people under Lateef Jakande and 13-16m under Fashola.

How did each one of them perform for the 100% Lagos residents

Jeezyy: the fact is, they keep on recycling themselve in our politics. The next person will probably be installed by a selected few or by godfatherz of which he/she will be working for or else face impeachement too and so will be distracted or caged from doing any meaningful thing

So what can we (you & I) all 160m or so of us Nigerian citizens do about the situation that we CLAIM to detest so much

Delafruita: my friend,what exactly is your point?that road is commercially viable.it cuts the journey from lekki to ikoyi by almost 80%.besides those that will use the bridge would ordinarily have had to pay toll at admiralty.however,they can enjoy the benefit of lesser time on the road and a little bump in their toll.what is your problem with that?

That Mr. Fashola should display the same level of zeal and energy to the BASIC issues that affect over 80% of the tax-paying residents of Lagos such as:

* Pipeborne water

* Clearing and cleaning of gutters and road side bush to avoid flooding.

* Refurbish dilapidated primary (LGA responsibility) and secondary schools (state responsibility) while building new ones for the increased population of Lagos that is responsible for his increased federal revenue allocation from Niger Delta oil and IGR.

* Refurbish existing PRIMARY health care centres and build new ones, with adequate equipment and motivated staff members.
* Etc, etc

Hope I made myself reasonably clear!

Delafruita: the second niger bridge is less than 600metres and has continually been budgetted for yet it hasnt seen the light of day

You may wish to create a thread on that so those who are interested can contribute to your debate.

This is about Fashola's profligacy against the toiling, hard-working, over-taxed people of Lagos state with VERY LITTLE benefits to show for it.
#FriendlyAdvice.

[quote author=imsu.boi]Dude, have you ever tried explaining colors to a blind man?

In this case, you're the "blind man" and trying to explain "colors" to you would be a total waste of time!


I've got better things to do [/quote]And I was hoping you were really a CREATIVE GENIUS only to find out I made a big mistake.
Ordinary explain colours to blind man na im dey put you off but you sabi imagine make dem like your one line post for "clueless PDP" calling out Fashola to account for N29b on 1.5km bridge paid for by taxpayers who still must pay substantial tolls to use it.
SMH!!!

Desola: There is nothing wrong in carrying your commercial motorcycle put for head and allele to your village. We are sending you the message subtly now, you no wan hear, sooner or later una go hear am.

Lagos is not for never do wells from the other side of the Niger!

Are you sayimg all the Area boys on whose shoulders Tinubu first rode to power as well as the multitudes of omo-onile, agberos, NURTW members etc who live in Mushin, Ijora-Badia, Badagry, Epe, Isheri etc are also "from the other side of the Niger"

I thought I will never see a really childish post here but I guess I was wrong!!!

[quote author=imsu.boi]Who else thinks PDP are a bunch of clueless and retarded individuals whose only aim is never to see this country progress.



HIT THE "LIKE" BUTTON [/quote]Will you be kind enough to explain to us why you think "PDP are a bunch of clueless and retarded individuals whose only aim is never to see this country progress." as it relates to this story of raising accountability questions on spending N29b of Lagos tax payesr money on 1.5km bridge, irrespective of whether the bridge itself is FANCIFUL or not

Those who "hit the like button" of your post are free to respond to the question as well.
Thanks.

Jeezyy: ...and if he's impeached is the next gov. going to do any better...abegi make we hear word jor

Life is about PROBABILITIES.
If the next governor knows why his/her predecessor was impeached what is the LIKELIHOOD that he will do the same mistake

a) 0%
b) 25%
c) 50%
d) 100%

Hope you get the gist or I should break it down further for you?

[quote author=Frank-C]You see, Fashola was a member of a committe that produced a draft constitution that encoded a kind of North-South tenure shift for NGF. The same Fashola has gone to court to challenge the emmergence of a Northern candidate against his own proposal.

Fashola was the head of NGF committee that produced the report that urged FG to remove fuel subsidy. Fashola started speaking 'turenshi' when the subsidy was eventually removed.

Fashola was a member of NGF committee that approved good government tour of States in collaboration with Ministry of Information. The same Fashola does what he knows best when the GGF started and he noticed that the rightful owners of projects will presnt them to the elecorate.

Being an administrator is one thing. Having character is another. Fashola does not have character. Not even one bit.[/quote]Oga na wetin now?
Why are you spoiling the bad reputation of our able governor who is delivering democracy dividends of more taxes and tolls as Democracy Day celebration announcement for the mugus in Lagos

And the man has promised us Vision Water 2020 even though his 2nd term expires in 2015.
Original wayo man!!!

maasoap: Lagos State PDP only exists on pages of paper. If not, this is the best time for them to become a ruling party in the state. Fashola's policies are anti-masses. Imagine this newly built bridge, no commercial bikes are allowed but power bikes are allowed. commercial buses are not allowed. Slums owned by the masses are destroyed only for mansions for the affluents to spring up. He used commercial bikes for election campaign and after election, seized them, grind them and sold them without any compensation!

Slowly the truth about ACN's deception that is wrapped in fake progressive clothing is being unravelled for all to see.
I hope PDP continues its OPPOSITION tactics in Lagos and other states controlled by other parties in a very aggressive way. It can only augur well for our democracy.

Competition is always good for the consumers. Just see what has happened to our mobile phone sector.

CITING abuse of power, the Lagos State chapter of the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) Sunday urged the State House of Assembly to commence impeachment moves against Governor Babatunde Fashola over plans to collect tolls on roads in the state, especially on the new Lekki-Ikoyi link bridge.

In a statement, the Publicity Secretary of the party, Taofik Gani noted that Fashola had on Democracy Day announced plans to commence another tolling on Lagos roads especially the Lekki-Ikoyi link bridge.


But in a swift reaction, the state Publicity Secretary of Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), Mr. Joe Igbokwe has dismissed the PDP’s call for Fashola’s impeachment, describing it as baseless and lacking in merit.

He said Fashola’s administration had raised the standard of governance in the state “to such an extent that other governors including the PDP-led states now look up to Lagos for development plans in their states. That is why Fashola is being referred to as headmaster among the governors.”

According to Taofik: “It was immoral to allow the governor toll roads that are wholly built with taxpayers’ monies.

“Even the ongoing tolling of the Lekki-Epe Road that the lawmakers acquiesced to is morally wrong as they know well that a project ought to be completed and delivered before it can be paid for. In this instance, the tolling has started whereas the actual design and benefits from the said road have not even been completed which is exploitation.”

Insisting that this was high time the state legislators stood for what was right by removing the governor, Taofik said, “the lawmakers must find their ways back into the hearts of the people and particularly to prove to them that they are not stooges and puppets of the governor and the only way to prove this is to stop the tolling of the Lekki-Ikoyi link bridge. As a matter of fact, they must also commence the probe of the alleged N29 billion spent to construct the said bridge.”

He added that the conception that Lagos was in bondage of a business syndicate ably aided and abetted by Fashola could be put straight at this time “if the lawmakers remained resolute and rejected the tolling of the bridge. They must also at this point curtail Fashola’s arrogant posture in the governance of the state.

“There is serious need for the Lagos House of Assembly to do a holistic review of all the anti-people policies by Fashola and find ways to reverse them.

The party added: “Fashola’s imperialist system has pauperised so many people in Lagos and the time to stop it is now. The desperation to commence the tolling of the Lekki-Ikoyi link bridge is indeed immoral, exploitative and further gives credence to the suspicion that even the purported repairs of some Federal Government roads in the state are indeed inflated to make extra profits into some private pockets.

Igbokwe also cautioned the PDP against the implications of inciting the people against the government, saying that “Lagos has never had the type of positive development being witnessed under the present administration.”

Guardian

Fashola's democracy dividend for Lagosians - more tolls, taxes & levies.
As if the tax burden reflected in massively increased IGR is not already enough on the over-taxed people of Lagos.

Is the Lagos PDP waking up from its slumber to ADEQUATELY challenge Fashola's inhumane policies towards the tax payers of the state

I sure hope so as they need to also play OPPOSITION politics at the state and even LGA levels to constantly expose the Achilles heel of this Tax & Steal government by Fashola that robs the masses to pay the elites.
I hope PDP in other states will emulate this laudable initiative and constantly investigate and highlight the bad deeds of the pseudo-progressives in the Association of Conmen in Nigeria, ACN

oshyno: Wow these ACN apologists never seem to amaze me. How can u support this meaningless move by Fashola. By the way is that not tax payers money that hez wasting on an unconstitutional body like NGF. DO u know what it takes to bring in Falana and those SANs to take up ur case. How can u condone illegality simply bcuz is Fashola. Smh

My dear brother, please kindly take note that we the residents of Lagos who pay the hefty taxes, tolls, levies, rates, fines etc that will be used to prosecute this proxy war against Jonathan through Jang DO NOT MIND.
Mr. Fashola has promised us water in 2020 and he needs to win this case against NGF to fulfil that promise.
Never mind that he leaves Alausa house in 2015.

Lagos mugus on NL please raise up your hand. Thanks.