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[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=797242.msg9503634#msg9503634 date=1320722041]My question is, what is the meaning behind the long streaks down the faces of these sculptures?[/quote]On part 3 of the BBC documentary three theories or explanations of the meaning of the long streaks down the face of the sculptures came up:

1. It was believed that two dynasties lines came from Ife and in order to make a differentiation or identification between the two; one dynasty line had the streak markings on the face while the other dynasty line didn't have these streak markings

2. The streaks represented a beaded veal meaning to cover or shield the face of the ife king from the public; to show his power.

3. Visual trick to cut down the shininess of the freshly bronze, to make it look more natural

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=797242.msg9503592#msg9503592 date=1320720766]With Benin influencial and political power comes culture. That is something you cant escape.[/quote]True, however not a significant as you hype it to be, but based on what I read when it comes to art sculpting the benin's were influenced by the Owo's not the other way around; so their knowledge of sculpting didn't come from benin's. Now this is not to say that benin's didn't have their own separate way of sculpting bronze art but when it comes to the discussion of Owo's when it comes to art sculpting cultural influence that was from them & maybe a influence from Ife itself

[quote author=ijaw_girl link=topic=797561.msg9503602#msg9503602 date=1320721104]yea true. .Ama Annan recently married 2 some wealthy yoruba man

picture of the traditional wedding[/quote]very cute couple, well I am happy for them

[quote author=ijaw_girl link=topic=797561.msg9503519#msg9503519 date=1320718918]Ama Annan-kofi annan's daughter. . .Kofi Annan(Ghanaian father) and Nigerian mother[/quote]true, her mother is actually yoruba
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-768307.0.html

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=797561.msg9503529#msg9503529 date=1320719162]She recently just married a Nigerian man[/quote]I heard that as well to a divorced man with money

The Lion King
Aladdin
Beauty and the beast
finding Nemo
The Jungle book
The little Mermaid
Mulan
Robin Hood

p.s. There is another Disney movie I like but this movie is not a cartoon but cartoons were in it, and that movie is Mary Poppins

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=797242.msg9503506#msg9503506 date=1320718469]Owo has major bini influence btw, google them.[/quote]well they were under the benin  kingdom at one point, so maybe through influential or political power but cultural I doubt it because the bini's were actually influenced by the Owo's as well when it comes to sculpting.[b]

"In their oral tradition, Owo traces its origins to the ancient city of Ile-Ife, the cradle of Yoruba culture.[2] Oral tradition also claims that the founders were the sons of the Yoruba deity Odudua, who was the first ruler of Ile-Ife. The early art-historical and archaeological records reinforce these strong affiliations with Ife culture.[2] Owo was able to maintain virtual independence from the neighboring kingdom of Benin, but was on occasion required to give tribute.[3] The transmission of courtly culture flowed in both directions between the Benin and the Owo kingdoms. The skill of Owo's ivory carvers was also appreciated at the court of Benin. During the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, Benin's rulers increasingly utilized insignia made from ivory, and imported Owo's art objects and recruited its artisans for their own royal workshops.[4] there were othe notable artworks that can be evidently support[5]ed

Owo came under British rule in 1893. After Nigeria declared independence in 1960, it was part of the Western Region until 1967 when it became part of the Western State.Owo and its indegenes played significant roles in the politics of the first Republic, in Nigeria. In 1976, it became part of the newly created Ondo State.

The present-day town is an agricultural center involved in the growing and trade of yams, cassava, maize, okra, peppers, cocoa, and cotton. There are however other meaningful commercial activities in the town including but not limited to, timber and sawmilling, Soya beans procesing plant and blockmaking industries. The town is ditted with branches of some of the foremost banks like,First Bank Plc,Skye Bank Plc,(former Omega Bank Plc) etc. The city is now witnessing a dramatic change and beautification due to expansion of its road network,particularly dualization of the main road beginning from Emure junction up to Iyere exit.A new Ultra-modern market is now opened in Owo."[/b]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owo,_Nigeria

I read in youtube & nollywood/Ghollywood movie review sites that the new Ghollywood movie Why Marry? is a copycat of a Yoruba movie Called "Modupe Temi". First of All I saw the movie Modupe Temi(which stars Saidi Balogun & Doris Simeon or Doris Ademinokan), basically a two star cast & If I had to rate the movie I give it a A or a 10/10, one of the best Yoruba movies ever. However There is a new Ghollywood movie out called "Why Marry? which stars Yvonne Okoro & Majid Michel, which looks like it will be a good movie, although I have heard some mixed reviews about the movie, but it seems to have a similar storyline as Modupe Temi. So The question I wanted to ask, especially from people that have seen both movies, Is the movie "Why Marry" a copycat of the movie "Modupe Temi"?

MOPE TEMI
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[b]"Title of Film: Modupe temi (I thank God for my own)
Producer: Saidi balogun
Director: Daniel Ademinokan
Main characters: Omolara Ayoola -Doris Simeon Donald Ayoola - Saidi Balogun
Language: Yoruba
Theme: Married life
Setting/country: Nigeria
Year of production: 2008
Length of film: 1.57.00
Genre: comedy
Reviewer: Akinwumi Adjua

PLOT: A two cast comedy home video, chronicling the home and life of a married couple who always quarrel and never seem to agree on anything.
The movie starts with a soliloquy on both parts, the two couples speaking in different rooms of happier times in their marriage. Donald Ayoola acted by Saidi Balogun is the grouchy and complaining husband while Omolara Ayoola acted by Doris Simeon (AMA award winner for best indigenous actress) is the feisty nagging wife.


The couple drive each other crazy with pranks and antics. Omolara (Doris) in a scene pours a whole bottle of laxative in her husband's morning tea due to a fight the previous night. Donald (Saidi) in turn, after discovering what Omolara did, he pours ground pepper in her body lotion. In another scene Donald makes a phony call to his girlfriend to spite Omolara. Omolara then brings home a car bought in credit and tells Donald that it was bought by one of her lovers.
The film goes on with these pranks till towards the end it is revealed that both their friends have been feeding them lies about each other. They realize that their long standing tradition of "revenge first before explanation” doesn’t lead to a happy home.

SHOTS AND ANGLES: The movie is a mixture of different shots and angles. However the medium shot was more dominant. Preference was made for focus on a main object. There were series of long shots and about one or two extreme long shots where they showed the house in which the couple lived. The angle mostly used was the mid-angle. Subjective angles were also used to show what the actors were looking at, for example the scene where Donald came to look at the new car.

COSTUME: Donald and Omolara in the movie are the average middle class Nigerian, comfortable. They were rightly dressed to suit their roles. Their costumes indicated the normal day to day clothing of such people. The only dress that at first seemed out of context was Omolara’s dress for the wedding towards the end of the film and this was later justified as she said she dressed as such to look “sexy” and gain her husband’s attention.

MAKEUP: They were made up according to the role they performed. The makeup was simple and good.


CONCLUSION: MODUPE TEMI is a great film. The concept of a two cast movie is uncommon and unique. The acting was carried out well. The fact that the film just consists of two people yet it isn’t boring or monotonous says something about the acting skill involved. Saidi Balogun and Doris Simeon were terrific. The scriptwriting is equally rich; it is full of Yoruba proverbs and wise sayings. For example “You must feed properly any sacred cow that will be put up for sale”. The sound tracks fit each scene, the lighting is good. Take for instance the lighting used in the beginning soliloquy which makes them look mysterious and captivates the audience’s attention. In general the director Daniel Ademinokan and the whole production crew did a great job in putting the whole thing together. The film is hilarious and will keep one laughing, Yoruba or not, from the beginning till the end. As with almost all home videos MODUPE TEMI carries a moral message. Love and understanding, love understands all things and bears all things. MODUPE TEMI, a very impressive movie."[/b]
http://intro2filmclass..com/2009/11/modupe-temi.html
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WHY MARRY?
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A review of the movie from NOLLYWOOD FOREVER:
http://nollywoodforever.com/why-marry/

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okeyxyz:
MEHN!!!, this has got to b the best re-education i've had this year. such beautiful history can only evoke a sense of pride regarding one's origins, that we had some ancient value that can stand shoulder to shoulder with  the rest of the esteemed ancients. very impressive.

i just hope some chauvanistic 1d10ts will not tribalize this into "yoruba this & yoruba that, blah blah blah"
it's funny that it had to take oyibo's ,documentary to tell us about our history. oyibo is making all effort to uncover knowlege while we are doing our utmost best to distance ourselves from our history & knowlege of old, saying they are demonic ways that should be destroyed & never remembered.

thanks to the OP for posting.

That's what made me love the documentary & I feel it should be something that should be cherished with pride; at least I do. The art sculptures are just beautiful and highly advanced that it has given more respect for not only Yoruba's but for Black africans in general from non-black africans who thought black africans were backwards. As you said it is ironic that a white man had to bring it's importance to the world before Nigerians saw the seriousness of it & not to take it for granted. Although based upon the response's I am getting from this thread I see many appreciate the importance of these magnificent sculptures that were beyond European technology of that time when it came to sculptures.

I am surprised that there are some Nigerians in this forum that follow the Buddhist religion(the only Nigerian I ever heard follow the Buddhist teachings is Hollywood actor Adewale akkinouye-Agbaje from the show lost and in the movie the mummy & Bourne Identity); I thought it was more of a Asian thing. Any way all the power to them, I am a Christian but I don't discriminate I have friends who are of many religions(Muslim, Jew, Hinduism, Buddhist, and etc), mostly christian though.

interesting thread

meonbooty:
Thats why I dont like hanging with Nigerians. They'd rob you if they could

well this is nairaland, and majority in this forum are Nigerian. So if don't like hanging with Nigerians then this is not the place for you

Relax101:
Where did u get this nonsense from?

from my observational experience

millco88:
best looking yoruba women only go for igbos or oyinbos.

OMG, where did you get that information from, LoL. Maybe you mean non-yoruba & non-hausa women I guess but Yoruba women, I don't think so.

The best looking Yoruba women only go for yoruba men(and the best of the group at times), they rarily run after igbo men; most yoruba families won't allow their daughters to be with igbo men. Lastly yoruba women rarily go for oyinbo men(it happens but it is so small compared to other females of other tribes in Nigeria that go for oyinbo), if a Yoruba women does go for men outside their tribe it is mostly hausa or edo men not Igbo men.

[quote author=so_realguy link=topic=242722.msg9489574#msg9489574 date=1320527965]True talk Anonymous. I have witnessed it often times. Collaboratively, I like many other Yoruba men, see nothing wrong getting involved with igbo women, since many are adorable. I almost married one, but it didn't work out eventually. Both families were against the union, but what later separated us was perhaps divine. (hate to think about it though) - Anonymous, I am yet to receive a mssg from u. I understand. Please and please and please, let me get at least a Hi messg from u. My email ad. is taye_4_@yahoo.com or tjnigeria2007@yahoo.com. Thank You[/quote]don't worry I will contact you