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PoliticsRe: Igbo Group Gives 90 Days To South East Governors To Launch Security Outfit by antadiop2: 3:22pm On Feb 26, 2020
StreetFight:
What is Starvation Policy? Were you expecting Yorubas and Hausas to be farming and producing food, then send it to eat and continue chest beating all around the country? So, you pick up arms and ammunition against the government and you expect other tribes to be producing food and sending to you? You need psychiatric evaluation.
Another important point is that Igbos did not pick guns to fight Nigeria rather the other way round as Nigeria attacked Biafra on the 6th of July 1967 and Biafra defended its self.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Igbo Group Gives 90 Days To South East Governors To Launch Security Outfit by antadiop2: 3:18pm On Feb 26, 2020
StreetFight:
What is Starvation Policy? Were you expecting Yorubas and Hausas to be farming and producing food, then send it to eat and continue chest beating all around the country? So, you pick up arms and ammunition against the government and you expect other tribes to be producing food and sending to you? You need psychiatric evaluation.
You’ve completed veered off on a tangent. All I’m saying is that you said it was Awolowo’s genius that invented the starvation policy and I’m pointing out to you that you’re wrong because Gowon’s government was using the blockade/starvation before in 1966 before awo joined the government.

Of course I agree with you on your other point that nobody feeds their enemy during war. But I don’t suppose you should gloat over the deaths caused by such policy.
I’ll ignore the personal insults to my person as I’m above that and would rather stick to the debate. Insults come when you run out of facts.

God bless you
PoliticsRe: Igbo Group Gives 90 Days To South East Governors To Launch Security Outfit by antadiop2: 1:33pm On Feb 26, 2020
[quote author=StreetFight post=86968992]That was how they picked up arms and decalred war agains the Federal Republic of Nigeria even without buying food, water, drugs and ammunition. They just got some hunters' dane guns and decclared war. When the war started, they then asked Awolowo and Gowon to be sending them food to eat so that they will have strenth to fight with their hunters' guns and cutlasses.

Awolowo stopped all food going to the saboteurs, Awolowo also changed Nigeria's currency while the war was going on (that Awo was a baddass man) and since the seceessionists did not buy arms and ammunition before declaring war, they could not buy anything with the money they looted from the CBN regional offices in their region. So, no food to eat, no water to drink, no gun to used to fight, na so my brother Agbari Oju-Iku japa to Ivory Coast leaving the federal forces to use over three million Flattinos for pepper soup and suya and the most beautiful falt headed ladies, women and girls as sex slaves.

The above is not hate speech but a summary of what happened before and during the unplanned civil and uncivil war.

I hope this my mouth will not kill me sha.[/quote
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For your info the starvation policy was in place just before the war then lifted and then replaced as the shooting started. It wasn’t Awo’s brainchild but Awo is blamed because though he didn’t invent the starvation policy he endorsed it to the world press.
The policy resulted in 1-3 million deaths mainly women and children. I guess it’s something worth celebrating as you’ve shown in your post, but remember God judges our hearts so if the death of millions of women and babies makes you really happy today then please do thank God for their deaths.
Also remember it wasn’t only igbos that died of starvation, actually more ijaws and ibibios and other minorities whom Nigeria claimed it was fighting for that died of starvation than Igbos.

But then again don’t let me stop you in your moment of joy, so go on gloat gloat gloat ������

God bless
PoliticsRe: Biafra: The Memo Of Oba Akenzua On Aburi- Eric Teniola by antadiop2: 6:51pm On Feb 19, 2020
coolitempa1:
Spot on. The ibos forced Nigeria on us but now cry foul because the ineffectual buffoon lost... grin grin
Not entirely true because when AG and Awo threatened to leave the union during one of the conferences, the British threatened them with force.
When NPC and Bello threaten to leave the British give them what they want.
So please can we be objective and research extremely hard before posting.

I know the rush to condemn the Igbo makes it easier to do less research and rehash untruths etc.

God bless
CrimeRe: Batista & Ide: Nigerian Stoned His Fellow Nigerian To Death In South Africa by antadiop2: 11:07am On Feb 12, 2020
Godons1:
Wow, Igbo's are killing themselves. This is cool. grin grin grin grin grin

CrimeRe: Batista & Ide: Nigerian Stoned His Fellow Nigerian To Death In South Africa by antadiop2: 11:05am On Feb 12, 2020
LamidiCownu:
Osu killed Nyamuri..case closed !!
Nah friendly abi brotherly fire
God bless you

PoliticsRe: Why The Biafran War Dragged On For So Long.... by antadiop2: 5:53pm On Feb 03, 2020
tsdarkside:
okay....good to know....

and do you yourself agree that their were no british warships involved in the war....??
because somebody mentioned something like ,british warships blockaded biafra too....
I know the answer but I’ll rather you two battle it out. Better yet do some research and defeat him intelligently ��‍♂️

God bless
PoliticsRe: Why The Biafran War Dragged On For So Long.... by antadiop2: 1:44pm On Feb 03, 2020
tsdarkside:
ha,now i understand....

but i didnt bother to check it out....

where should i check that out....??

you can atleast give me a link or something....
I said you should do your own research. Hard work pays.
Anyway go to international journal of Naval history and type Nigerian civil war.

But I attached an excerpt in case you don’t bother checking.

PoliticsRe: Why The Biafran War Dragged On For So Long.... by antadiop2: 8:49am On Feb 03, 2020
tsdarkside:
is that true....??
Research the dates I mentioned

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PoliticsRe: Why The Biafran War Dragged On For So Long.... by antadiop2: 7:48am On Feb 03, 2020
Biafra got to Ore in late August 1967. Whilst the Nigerian 3rd marine commandos numbering more than 35000 with its population 90% Yoruba and led by Adekunle a Yoruba, invaded Biafra via Bonny on the 29th of July 1967.

So in reality the Yoruba invaded Biafra before Biafra retaliated by going west not to even invade Yoruba land but to sack the military occupation of the west and Lagos.

Also tho release pressure on Biafra mounted by Nigerian 2 divisions and to also force the international community to forge a truce.

The rest is history alas.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 12:34am On Jan 31, 2020
For those laughing at Biafran soldiers, here what they think your Nigerian soldiers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RrKVnUvnVU

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 12:29am On Jan 31, 2020
leokid866:
You speak as if the division was a total one like in the case of North and South korea....but it wasn't people were allowed to travel to either side as they pleased but with restrictions. Despite their division they still maintained a good rappor with each other and where able to make unified decisions like sending aid to biafra when they saw how starved the children had become.....read bruv education is key.
Lie lie and more lies if there was free travel, why the airdrops and why were people shot at the fence.
I’m wasting my time here with these issues I feel like this is a joke.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 11:51pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
Oga have some sense despite the fact Germany was controlled by various parties and was the center for the fight between democracy and communism it was still referred to as Germany a formal nation.....it's like saying because your hand cant reach your ass to wipe its no longer part of your body.....even the picture you put up refers to it as Germany. Yes they were divided but the Nation was still referred to as Germany....hope you can comprehend that...
Who won 1954 world cup
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 11:49pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
You are dumb to use the issue of the cold war as an excuse to say Germany did not exist as a nation during the Nigerian civil war....that was an internal struggle much like our civil but less blodied. but when it came to their foreign policy like helping the biafrans lose a war they were classified as Germany.....not east Germany or west Germany....just germany.....now please go to sleep and make sure you enroll in some history classes in the morning and stop shaming us as a people
Give me an example of them acting as one during that period and I’ll issue an apology to you.
Typical Nigerian I know you’ll rather die than acknowledge your ignorance but it’s okay

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 11:35pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
Please go back to school....please I'm begging you for the sake of the future of your kids.....
Refresh your memory

PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 11:19pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
Please go to bed.....and then tomorrow sign up to any generational university to have yourself re-educated.
Ha ha ha, I take it you’ve seen your world class error and why Wikipedia is not academic?

It was east and west Germany even Buhari knows this but you don’t.

No wonder you people insult each other on this forum than debate facts learn and grow and build a healthy nation. Each day it’s Yoruba this igbos that etc hate multiplies and is it any wonder there’s so much death and destruction and poverty in the land?

It’s the energy you guys give off that is part of malaise we’re all suffering.

Noticed that I’ve never insulted you all through I may have pointed out your ignorance but no personal insult and if I did forgive.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 11:09pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
So it's now obvious whatever money your parents spent on your education is lost.....cause a simple Google search would tell you Germany as a country was formed January 18 1871.
Ha ha ha !
Ok seriously let google be your friend this time. Please check what Germany was in 1967 and get back to me.

I can’t believe I’m having this debate. The world has really gone backwards cerebrally and you had the temerity to also insult me whilst showcasing world class ignorance.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 11:03pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
So it's obvious you have been living under a rock for a long time and have long since left the modern world behind...ps the attachment is from a premium times write up.....there are also several videos online of French soldiers fighting alongside biafran soldiers and bringing in aid via air....I'm sure you will find them if you get closer to Google....
But french investment in Nigeria during the war was £200m so what are you on about.

They never recognised Biafra, if so show it, they never sold us war winning weapons but rather small arm to help us survive but Biafra even used those small arm to stalemate Nigeria in mid 1968 hence after operation OAU by Nigeria, they never captured any serious Biafran objectives till late 1969.

Mind you France never gave us any discount on weapons sales unlike the British 75% to Nigeria.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 10:57pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
Google is your friend and it's 2020....please stop been stupid and shaming us as a people because when you go out there they won't categories you as an igbo man but a Nigerian.
Can also point out an error in the Wikipedia page you posted and why it’s an academic faux pas ?

Your page says Germany supported Biafra when Germany as a country clearly didn’t exist in 1967.

So take note and stand corrected and stop � quoting Wikipedia in serious debate etc

God bless you
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 10:43pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
Google is your friend and it's 2020....please stop been stupid and shaming us as a people because when you go out there they won't categories you as an igbo man but a Nigerian.
I won’t be replying Wikipedia based answers and you’re also hurling insults instead of decent fact etc. But I’ll try answering you one more time if you drop the insults and stick to facts.

God bless you
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 10:39pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
Google is your friend and it's 2020....please stop been stupid and shaming us as a people because when you go out there they won't categories you as an igbo man but a Nigerian.
For some reason I knew you’ll take the bait and expose you lack of academic prowess by quoting Wikipedia.
My friend that is the worst thing to do! Do you know that if you reference Wikipedia in academic research, you’ll fail ?

Why ? Because anyone can edit it to suit their personal desires.
So please I suggest you do more serious reading and research and come up with a better rebuttal.

Sorry google hasn’t been your friend this time!

God bless you
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 10:32pm On Jan 30, 2020
FrLukas:
Of course you read Obasanjo's book, My Command. I have read it. I have also read Alabi Isama's book, "A tragedy of Victory". One of the most complete first eye witness narrative of what happened at the theatre of war.

That book has over a thousand real life war pictures taken by the author himself. It was him and Akinrinade who did most of the job before Obasanjo, came and took victory for what he did not do.

If as you claim you have read many of the civil war memoirs and books and you haven't read that of Alabi Isama, then I have to admit to you that you haven't read any.

The book is out in the stores. Go get one and read. Then maybe you will see the war from another perspective.

Note that while Akinrinade and Alabi Isama engaged the female members of the military in signifying duties, Obasanjo got there be turned them to easy lay for the tired soldiers. I bet Obasanjo didn't include that in his "My Command".

I have read both. And I can authoritatively tell you that you haven't read any civil war book if that's the only one you read.

Go get Isama's book and come back for a debate.

You said there was a shouting match. After the shouting match, the Biafran side signed that the war was over. Does that make sense to you?

What were they shouting over?

What was the topic of discussion that led to the shouting match.

We have pictures of Obasanjo signing and receiving the surrender of Biafran soldiers.

Where are the pictures of the shouting match?
I actually have Alabi isama’s Book which though is a good book, fall down because it starts out as a disrespectful rebuttal to Obasanjo and is very emotional book coming from a military man.
Anyway he wasn’t at Dodan barracks so was not a witness to the heated debate that took place.

Like I said I’ve given two books one Yoruba and one Igbo to create balance.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 10:00pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
"They weren’t held at gun point but there was a shouting match between the Biafran contingent and Gen Obasanjo where he suggested they return to the field and continue fighting and surrender when they lose" you shot yourself with this.....if it was sure for them why didn't they refuse the deal and return to the field? You have no point with your own write up....please try again.
You haven’t been following the debate from the beginning. I said from the start that Biafra had already called off the war ! So why would they return to a war they’ve already called off ?

Hence no one on this forum has been able to answer my first question?

Which battle did Nigeria win to end the Biafran war ?
Please name the battle the date it took place and location it took place.

I tired of the hide and seek comments. If I don’t get a factual and historical answer, I’m out folks.

God bless you all
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 9:55pm On Jan 30, 2020
leokid866:
Lol like the biafran side did not have allies.....please go sit and read up on history.
But you’re wrong and he’s right! If Biafra had allies as you said why were they always short of weapons and why did they not ever have game changing and war winning weapons?

But Nigeria on the other hand was armed to teeth by world powers.

The British sold weapons at 75% discount to Nigeria, virtually free and even ran out of ammunition to sell it sold its own armed forces munitions.
Russia sold heavy guns 122mm artillery pieces the best at the time and mig and illyshin fighter jets and got the unfinished Ajaokuta steel complex.
But Biafra manufactured 56% of her own war weapons and bought 40% on the black market at exorbitant prices and the rest from France etc.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 9:27pm On Jan 30, 2020
FrLukas:
This person is in denial. O ma se o.

If they thought they were in Dodan barracks for negotiation as you claim, why did Ojukwu run away?

Wasn't he in the best position to negotiate on behalf of Biafra?

And when Effiong and his people saw that they were tricked, why didn't they continue to war when they got home.

You have been lying to yourself for a long time bro.

You asked the other guy to show proof that Biafra surrendered.

Now, show us proof that the Biafran warlords were forced at gunpoint to read and sign a document signifying the end of Biafra and all hostilities.
Let me ignore most parts of your post as it shows you have not read upto 5 books on the civil war, my guess entirely.
But yes they weren’t held at gun point but there was a shouting match between the Biafran contingent and Gen Obasanjo where he suggested they return to the field and continue fighting and surrender when they lose.

Look reading and research is very hard for Nigerians to do hence it’s easier to hurl insults instead of intellect.

Read my command by Obasanjo and my memoirs by brig anwunah. The facts are documented.

I’m also aware that non igbos love to hear the ojukwu ran away version of the war etc but any serious student of history will see the dispassionate facts for themselves.

So my proofs are in the books quoted find them and read them. Also read joe achuzie’s interview on Biafran war.

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PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 9:26pm On Jan 30, 2020
[quote author=Halexgos3 post=86244429]What is this one saying

Sorry I erroneously answered you

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PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 7:26pm On Jan 30, 2020
Osidazz19:
The New York times and all other news outlets called it a SURRENDER when it happened. I'm 1000 percent sure that they know more about what happened back then than you know today. The Biafrian Army surrendered, and their leader fled the country to Ivory coast in the middle of the night.
Using your logic, I guess the Germans can also claim that they did not lose the second world war. It was a ruse by the Americans and Soviets. Got it.
No the Germans did lose the war cos the Russians got to hitlers bunker and mounted their flag on the reichstag and utterly took every inch of Berlin with Germany waving the white flag.

Biafra in the other hand invited Nigerian troops to Amichi at Bernard Odogwu’s house after it was agreed by its high command to call off the war.
Read joe Achuzie’s interview, he’s the one who invited Gen Akinrinade to hold negotiations.
Also read Col Ihenacho’s book where he was tasked with holding off Nigerian troops to allow the first speech by Gen Effiong to read effectively ending the war.

Hence my initial question asking you or anyone else to name the actual battle Nigeria won that collapsed Biafra?
Such battle doesn’t exist but what exists is numerous factors including military one of course that lead to Biafra calling off the war.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 7:04pm On Jan 30, 2020
Osidazz19:
LAGOS, Nigeria, Jan. 14 (AP)—Following is the text of the surrender document signed here today by Lieut. Col. Philip Effiong, who was a major general and is act ism as leader of the Biafrans:

I, Philip Effiong, do hereby declare: I give you not only my own personal assurances but also those of my fellow officers and colleagues and of the entire former Biafran people of our fullest cooperation and very sincere best wishes for the future.

It is my sincere hope the lessons of the bitter struggle have been well learned by everybody and I would like therefore to take this opportunity to say that I, Maj. Gen. Philip Effiong, officer administering the government of the Republic of Biafra, now wish to make the following declaration:

That we are firm, we are loyal Nigerian citizens and accept the authority of the federal military Government of Nigeria.

That we accept the existing administrative and political structure of the Federation of Nigeria.

That any future constitutional arrangement will worked out by representatives of the people of Nigeria. That the Republic of Biafra hereby ceases to exist.


That's from the New York times Jan 16 1970

The headline :
Text of Biafran Surrender
Jan. 16, 1970
Read my questions again and give pointed answers to them.

Mind you I’m aware of of what you posted above and yes Gen Effiong read those out to the world and it’s on video etc.
But what you’re not aware of is that they were forced into that position, they thought they were at Dodan barrack for negotiations.

Read Gen Obasanjo’s my command and Brig Pat Awuna’s book as well.

In total you’ve posted a speech made after the war was called off.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 6:38pm On Jan 30, 2020
Osidazz19:
Do you have any prove that you are breathing in oxygen right now? I doubt it. If you have prove pls share it here.
We need prove not just assumptions that you are breathing.
I take it you have no time for intelligent debate and I cannot begrudge you for that and I hope you don’t begrudge me for not insulting you back as you probably wish.
But until you or anyone else can destroy my questions with facts I guess it’s have a good weekend.

God bless you
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 6:30pm On Jan 30, 2020
Osidazz19:
Pls stay off the crack or whatever you have been smoking.
Doesn’t answer the question and I don’t do insults but I do facts. Do shut me off my crack pipe with facts.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Enyinnaya Abaribe: The Igbo Man Doesn't Kneel For Anybody Except His Chi by antadiop2: 6:24pm On Jan 30, 2020
Okoyiboz3:
No Victor No vanquished. Why didn't Ojukwu wait na? grin

Biafrans were defeated in battle. They are defeated people and they gave an unconditional surrender cos they were defeated and their cowardly leader ran off like a bastard.
You actually have no proof Biafra was defeated in battle if you do please tell us the time, date and location of the final battle that collapsed Biafra.
On the other hand, the Biafrans called off the war due to numerous reasons.
Finally I know it sounds good to say ojukwu ran away but again that’s the figment of an imagination.
Again if you the proof of him running away happily show it.

God bless
PoliticsRe: Forgotten History Of Igbo Tribe And Northern Alliance by antadiop2: 12:04pm On Jan 25, 2020
FrLukas:
Did I say somewhere that Awolowo ASKED Zik to insert anything anywhere?

I'm confused.
My bad ! I meant where you said the leader had the chance to insert secession in the constitution but balked at the idea? Do you have a direct source?

God bless

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