₦airaland Forum

VictorUSA:
So where can I see the truth?

The truth lies in the reality of the moment in tadem with logical reasoning. Never allow anyone to reason for you. Reason without bias and your mind will lead you to the truth.

Drenimarcus:
More will come out as they learn the truth.

So many people on Nairaland only reason with emotions and unable to think for themselves. How could any sane person expect that a country like Russia can be isolated and has no friends? This is a country with 11 different time zones, with a great history and one of the greatest nations to grace the earth....because it has some few geopolitical disagreement with some few nations in Europe, some Nigerians think it is already isolated.

chronique:
1 is Berlin

2 is Cyprus

These are anti Russian pages by the way. The reality is that people feel differently about the crisis and nobody can silence those for or against the war. Mainstream media has been feeding us nonsense.

Lamestream media has been feeding people with lies from time immemorial.

For instance, 6 years ago, the BBC did a documentary on Nazis in Ukraine. But today, same BBC don't want you to know that there are Nazis in Ukraine committing altrocities.

VictorUSA:
Had it been that the news was contrary to this it would have been a propaganda since they are from anti-russian countries.

You are very emotional. Try to think independently, that's the only way you can be free from deception. You don't have to be always pro-west or pro-east. Once you see the truth, align with it and your mind will always be at peace.

VictorUSA:
CNN or Fox News

CNN or Faux News? I release you from their grip in Jesus name, amen.

seunny4lif:
Please don’t say what you don’t know.
Gas and electricity bill went up already over 60%
A 40L car using diesel is now around 120€ in just 3 weeks and Germany government now is subsidy gas and oil with over €13B but till when?

The Irish government in just one month of Russia-Ukraine war have spend almost €1B to subsided the oil and gas price and they said they can only do it till April ending, what happens next?
The Garda said massive increase of attack against pump stations staffs since fuel have increased.

Why do you think Hungary government refused to sanction Russia and Bulgaria new government blamed the previous government for cancelling the pipeline deal that should have transported Russia gas from Russia straight to Bulgaria.
Turkey got that deal and now Turkey is getting massive money from it with good cheap gas supply from Russia.
Turkey even tried getting more oil and gas from Azeri but no country does it like Russia.

If you lay the Russian gas pipelines together, they will circle the equator two times. So many people don't understand the power and technological exploit the Russians have in this area. Like you said, no one does it better than them. Once the China pipeline gets completed, Europe would have to look elsewhere for the cheap gas they're currently getting. Unfortunately, nobody sells it cheaper than Russia. This means, the industrial productive capacity of European biggest economies like Germany that relied on Russian gas will lose their competitive leverage because they will have to buy at much more higher prices and produce commodities at higher production cost, which means increase in prices of commodities and loss of market share because, buyers will now have to go for same goods elsewhere that have cheaper prices such as those produced by China and India.

I don't know what Olaf was thinking when he agreed to play politics with his economy.

TenQ:
Check out the volume of market and that that flows into the West. Sorry sir.

The whole of Africa bought less than 50 armoured tanks and 10 SU-fighter jets from Russia in the last five years.

Volume of trade doesn't lie!

How could you just sit tight and type this outright lie? Or were you honestly being misled?

Russia is the largest arm seller to Africa.

Algeria alone bought around 200 aircraft items from Russia from 2000 to2019, ranging from transporter helicopters to combat helicopters, bomber and fighter ground aircrafts. Various models of surface-to-air missiles (SAM) that are designed for destroying aircrafts or other missiles have been ordered from Algeria (several orders through 2000-2019), Burkina Faso, Egypt (several orders), Ethiopia, Libya and Morocco. Algeria also ordered tanks (more than 500 items in total), as did Uganda (67 items).


As at 2020, Russia's trade volume in Africa amounted to about 14.7 billion dollars, which is even a decrease compared to the figures in 2013 and 2018.

So I don't know from where you got your figures.

1stGenAmerican:
Funny that you cited a Western Media news source that you call propaganda if it doesn’t praise Russia. I live in the US and although I appreciate your futile attempts to teach me US history you really need to channel that passion towards something that’ll benefit you.

Since you are praising the fabled but debunked might and superiority of the Russian Army maybe your idol Putin send them to fight the insecurity issues in parts of Nigeria.

That you live in the US doesn't make you infallible in knowledge. I don't praise the might or superiority of the Russian army; I simply stated the obvious just like those US intelligence experts said in their analysis of the war in Ukraine.

Solatium:

Seriously brainwashed, whatever the west throw at them is the Best.
No depth,no second thought,no probing just swallow it all gbam

At times I find it difficult to comprehend why so many people in this part of the world can't reason logically. One don't have to be pro-west or pro-east to sieve fact from fiction. But alas, the reverse is the case.

Solatium:
If you think oil and it's derivative is useful for Cars and Domestic use only,you have to return your certificate back to Your school.
The lubricant in your car nkọ? Gas to drive turbine's for electricity generation nko? Part of your electronics contain oil content,your fabrics,your beauty products, aviation fuel,some medical supplies, plastic's, fertilizer and several others that are yet to be discovered.

Even the batteries used for making EVs required oil by-products. The charge stations for those EVs also requires oil. The truth is, nothing can replace natural fossil fuel, especially in the 21st century economies that consumes fuel like mad.

Solatium:
Some of you are not smart,no apology for saying that.
The West keep selling you that buggy that fossil fuel will be worthless,yet they keep stockpiling their reserve,they keep prospecting for oil and drilling for shale oil.
Who do una like this for Africa?

Someone said sometime ago that Africans, particularly Nigerians are living on expired education. The rate at which people can't think independently is alarming.

joyandfaith:
Many European leaders did not expect Russia to invade Ukraine directly.

Ukraine was and still is a Russian redline. But the thought Putin was joking when he warn them about crossing that line.

Oturatetuala:
Just because I wrote in sebian language, nairaland ban me. Na WA o! Na me talk say make una know hear other languages apart from English and Yoruba.

this got me.

Solatium:
A stupid way of cutting your nose to spite your face.
They cut off Russia and buy from Poland and other 3rd party source who inturn buy from Russia, isn't that stupidity?

You even have the time to answer back. A lot them here simply don't think things through before rushing to post and comment. They just argue based on emotions devoid of logical reasoning.

1stGenAmerican:
Methodical warfare? US military personnel are baffled? You’re joking right?
US intelligence has never been baffled by Russia, they accurately predicted the exact time that Putin would invade Ukraine even as Putin repeatedly denied it. Remember?
On Thursday March 31st, Putin signed a decree ordering 134,000 new conscripts. That news comes straight from The Kremlin. The Russian Defense Ministry also admitted that conscripts have been used to fight since the Ukrainian invasion. Russia is already using conscripts in this war while the US has not drafted one single soldier since June of 1973 yet you imply that Russian forces are superior to the point that they baffle US military officials?

You make me laugh much more than the “armchair analysis” that you claim to laugh at.

Read this truth piece, straight from US intelligence experts, not the ediots you have working for the Lamestream media:

https://www.newsweek.com/putins-bombers-could-devastate-ukraine-hes-holding-back-heres-why-1690494

Ukraine does not even come close in comparison to Russia in military might and superiority.

Most of you are so used to the American shock and awe style of victory (which only ends up killing thousands upon thousands of citizens with whole cities leveled to the ground) as such that you guys find it difficult to come to terms with nations using methodical style of fighting.

Oh, so the 134,000 conscripted were sent to Ukraine, or were just being prepared for a worst case scenario vis the NATO threat?

If the country decide to give a few real field experience (which honestly I think is unnecessary) is their cup of tea. Glad you admitted that w superpower like the US have also used conscripts in time past against a third-world rated army (Vietnam). In fact, the US have used conscripts 6 times in its history.

Fact is, the Russians made mistakes in Ukraine (everyone does) but describing their adventure as a failure or losing the war is not only myopic but delusional.

rottennaija:
Zelensky is a puppet. He is not going to reach any deal unless he has been instructed to.

I don't know what they had on him that is making him to obey like an ediot. Maybe he enjoy seeing Ukraine being destroyed and partitioned.

TenQ:
No sir. Don't forget that they took so long to achieve even this feat (the static one week 40 mile vehicle column is an evidence).
There was no strategy other than to regroup to correct a mistake after a disappointing manoeuvre.

The Ukrainians are the ones blowing bridges, not Russia.

boyfrank:
Ukraine is industrialised, though not on the level of Germany. Shows u didn't understand history. The reason Germany and Japan recovered so fast was because of the US marshal plan. The same US is already preparing billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine.

Ukraine will never recover again. The country will be split into two or three parts. The billions of dollars you envisaged is only on paper, and even if it is made to leave the US wallet, it would end up in the pockets of corrupt oligarchs and Zelensky who has more than a billion dollars to his name and a huge Villa in Florida as stated in the Offshore Panama papers.

amazingspiderma:
Ukrainian First National Project after the War.

1. To become a Nuclear State again.

2. Then join NATO.

These two things are what got it where it is today.

joyandfaith:
That is reason RA captured kiev in 3 days and regime change was effected in Ukraine.

Kiev is a means to an end should the demand in betwixt the means and the end didn't fall through as planned.

rottennaija:
It's possible Ukraine is responsible but unlikely. Russia can stage this false flag and its very likely. This is what I think, Russia is not done with this war on Ukraine and any let up on the part of Russia is an avenue for NATO to resupply deadly weapons to Ukraine.

So while the peace talk continues, Russia will do everything to ensure they don't give NATO that opportunity. This is similar to the Egypt Israel war, where when it seems Egypt were on their way to winning, Israel called for a cease fire (to be mediated by US) only for Israel to get resupply from US and finished off Egypt.

I don't think Russia is going to be dump enough to allow NATO and the West into Ukraine in the name of a cease fire when they are aware of NATO complicity in all these.

I don't see this war ending anytime soon.

You just said my greatest fear. This war has no end in sight yet. And the more it lingers, the more it draws the world to the possibility of a nuclear war between Russia and NATO because they continue to up their ante in supplying Ukraine, howbeit with modest weapons. Things will change radically if Ukraine get jets and long range air defence systems from NATO. I think this possibility is the reason the Russians are using this so-called attack that has a false flag written all over it to rally home support for an all out war scenario because the Russian soil has never been attacked directly since WW2. This Belgorod attack even though it caused no serious damage can help paint an emotionally charged picture of world war two on the minds of Russians, which is such a dangerous thing should things go that way.

I sincerely hope Zelensky reached a deal quickly with Russia to end this war.

Techsupport:
why would you withdraw from a place you lost blood and sweat in a war that is still going on?

Guy, the Russian forces was never an occupational force. You don't occupy a country the size of Ukraine with 150,000 troops.

Igbofam:
Lmao such nonsense Sha.

So I guess all the weapons Ukraine have either captured or which Russian military abandoned for fear of being killed plus the ones various nations have been sending to Ukraine have all been demilitarized?

Do you even read what you type before posting at all?

So right now the NATO nations that are sending weapons to Ukraine are not building their defense mechanisms for Ukraine?

You are the one allowing childish emotions beguile your common sense

Lmao. You're truly a kid.

So you expect Ukriane to win the war with stinger and manpads?

What That the west is building ukraines defense mechanism by sending them stingers and manpads? I don't know you're this ignorant. These weapons are like toothpicks in the midst of a vast forest with different trees. There are so much more important equipments that makes up the military capabilities of a nation, that is what the Russians have destroyed in Ukraine as confirmed by the Ukrainian government.

There is a reason Zelensky is asking NATO to give him planes, long range air defenses, and a no fly zone, etc.

Stop being emotionally blinded.

Elsueno:
They actually withdrew from over 60 settlements & gradually moving towards Donbass, Everybody just dey guess wetin Russia dey plan.

Yeah, the Ukis have taken over 60 settlements from the Russians in a massive counter attacks. What a joke. So many emotions driving analytics here by simpletons.
By now, all the cities should have been liberated.

But heck, the reality is that the Russians are conducting a methodical warfare that even baffles truth speaking US military personnel.
The damn Russians are not even bothering to use their airforce predominantly. Sometimes the war and the armchair analysis here makes me laugh reading them.

boyfrank:
40 mile long convoy siting undisturbed
Dude, the Russian supply chain are stuck.

Stuck according to the Lamestream media.

Why didn't the Uki forces pick them out as easy target since they are stuck? Rather, the dread of the same convoy you said are stuck is the reason Kiev forces are blowing up bridges recently. When a fighting force is blowing up bridges, what does it mean? It mean they are retreating and preventing the advance of the opposing forces. Is that simple.

Igbofam:
How?
Did they succeed in demilitarization of Ukraine as they said was their objective? NO

The Soldiers of Ukraine we still see fighting everywhere are they ghosts since you said "completely annihilated the target".

Please what was their target? Enlighten me

Yes, they have succeeded in demilitarization of Ukraine. Even the Ukrainian government itself confirmed it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/russia-has-destroyed-most-of-ukraines-defence-industry-ukrainian-presidential-adviser-382424

Demilitarization doesn't just involved the destruction of key military installations but also the annihilation of machinery assets for creating such installations, which is the defense industry. This will make it practically impossible for the Ukrainians to build their own offensive capabilities let alone playing as a host to foreign military installations hostile to Russia. This too has already been agreed to by Ukraine in the talks ongoing in Turkey.

The Russians didn't call this a "special military operation " for nothing.

Remove emotions and see the reality for yourself.

The target are those installations/Ukrianian ability to wage war, not the Ukrainian soldiers per se.

Today, Ukraine have no navy, no meaningful airforce, and it's army is completely landlocked. The Ukrainian government secretary wasn't mincing words when he said Russia have almost destroyed all the nation's defense capabilities.

Don't allow emotions to cloud your judgment.

boyfrank:
General Zukhov in nairaland. U seem to be smarter than all Ukrainian generals and policy makers.

You can say that again.

Lightorder:
oh really? Russia is simply playing with them for over a month now.

No, you didn't see the startegic cities besieged and the demilitarization now virtually completed with Ukraine's military industrial complex almost completely destroyed, with no airforce, no navy and it's army now landlocked. While the denazification is halfway completed with Azov battalion commanders Killed in Mariupol and their forces almost completely vaporized now. That is playing, right?

ayindejimmy:
Withdraw to where ?

To other strategic places.

boyfrank:
After been nearly annihilated. If u loose even 15% of ur fighting companies, oga na to withdraw. War is not like Hollywood movies. Even if ur supply chain is destroyed, na withdrawal next.

Nealy annihilated? Lmao. You're just regurgating the Lamestream media bullshiit.

There is a 40 mile long Russian convoy that has been sitting comfortably on the outskirts of Kiev for weeks now, doing practically nothing. If the Russians wanted to pound Kiev to look like Aleppo, it won't even take long for it to happen. But no, they didn't do it cause the main reason they are there is two fold.

One, if the talks didn't go as planned, the order to take Kiev will then be given.

Secondly, the presence of that convoy keeps the main Ukrainian troops stationed in Kiev bogged down and prevented from resupplying their troops in the other besieged strategic cities. For your information, the same Ukrainian forces you guys said are advancing are now blowing up brides in the outskirts of Kiev to prevent the Russian advance. If you are blowing bridges, what does it mean? It means you are retreating and defending.

You have to understand this war. Is purely strategic. Russia is just toiling with Kiev to force Zelensky into talks of compromise because once Kiev is gone, he has lost his presidency for sure. Hence you see him now agreeing to some of the terms demanded by Russia while the talk is still ongoing.

Whomever tells you Russia is losing this war is an slowpoke.

boyfrank:
After been nearly annihilated. If u loose even 15% of ur fighting companies, oga na to withdraw. War is not like Hollywood movies. Even if ur supply chain is destroyed, na withdrawal next.

I want to ask you something: who pounded those places? Ukraine or Russia.

TenQ:
It means that Russian labour, investment in arms , ammunition, personnel was ALL in vain if they withdrew without achieving anything.

The strategy is to draw the Uki forces out of Kiev main city to the outskirts. And I'm surprised they're taking the bait.