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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:13pm On May 14, 2025
LordAdam16:
That is the current narrative.
American and Israeli media are signaling a Netanyahu-Trump schism.

To put this in perspective, Israeli media reported that one of Waltz (the former NSA) infractions that contributed to his firing was his close coordination with Satanyahu on Iran strike options at a time when Trump was still mulling a diplomatic resolution.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/waltzs-coordination-with-netanyahu-on-iran-strike-contributed-to-firing-report/

-Lord
Brother, have you read an excerpt of the speech Trump gave at the meeting with Satan Arabia? I don't know if I'm dreaming or not. It's quite revealing. For the first time, the US foreign policy read anti-interventionism and openly admitted that unipolarism as spearheaded by America since the end of the cold war was wrong. Then it goes on to canvass for a new multipolar world order, one in which no single nation would dictate to others how to run things. Unbelievable!!!

First, it was Rubio's astonishing words on the same issue:

....And I think that was lost at the end of the Cold War, because we were the only power in the world, and so we assumed this responsibility of sort of becoming the global government in many cases, trying to solve every problem. And there are terrible things happening in the world. There are. And then there are things that are terrible that impact our national interest directly, and we need to prioritize those again. So it’s not normal for the world to simply have a unipolar power. That was not – that was an anomaly. It was a product of the end of the Cold War, but eventually you were going to reach back to a point where you had a multipolar world, multi-great powers in different parts of the planet. We face that now with China and to some extent Russia, and then you have rogue states like Iran and North Korea you have to deal with.


Now Trump....Here is a part of the speech:

Before our eyes, a new generation of leaders is transcending the ancient conflicts of tired divisions of the past and forging a future where the Middle East is defined by commerce, not chaos, where it exports technology, not terrorism, and where people of different nations, religions, and creeds are building cities together, not bombing each other out of existence. We don’t want that.
(Applause)

And it’s crucial for the wider world to note this great transformation has not come from Western interventionists or flying people in beautiful planes giving you lectures on how to live and how to govern your own affairs. No, the gleaming marvels of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were not created by the so-called nation-builders, neocons, or liberal nonprofits like those who spent trillions and trillions of dollars failing to develop Kabul, Baghdad, so many other cities. Instead, the birth of a modern Middle East has been brought by the people of the region themselves, the people that are right here, the people that have lived here all their lives, developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your own unique visions, and charting your own destinies in your own way. It’s really incredible what you’ve done.

In the end, the so-called nation-builders wrecked far more nations than they built, and the interventionists were intervening in complex societies that they did not even understand themselves. They told you how to do it, but they had no idea how to do it themselves. Peace, prosperity, and progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of your heritage, but rather from embracing your national traditions and embracing that same heritage that you love so dearly.

(Applause)

And it’s something only you could do. You achieved a modern miracle the Arabian way. That’s a good way.

(Applause)



Going by this new US foreign policy shift, Netanyahoo should be having sleepless nights right now. No wonder he is talking about weaning Israel's security off America's support.

Interesting times ahead.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:59am On May 14, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡IBRAHIM TRAORÉ:

[How do you explain the decline of French influence in the region—not just in the Sahel, but also across West Africa?]

"I think they themselves contributed to their own decline.

Because they still view our relationship through a paternalistic lens.

Whenever we take an initiative—someone immediately says it’s Russia’s influence.

Everything we do—'it’s Russia.'

Why are they so blind?

So—Africans are incapable of developing ideas on their own?

Of inventing, innovating, taking initiative?

That’s exactly what we are fighting against.

As long as they see Africans as subhumans, incapable of thought or innovation, there will never be genuine friendship.

Times have changed.

And they must change too.

It’s the very perception they still have of Black people.

They need to let go of that.

Because treating us this way means they still see Black people as subhuman.

And that’s dangerous.

They must change their language."


[But how does this attitude reveal itself?]

"Just listen to their speeches.

Even the French President constantly says African youth are being 'influenced by Russia.'

He says it openly.

And Western media? They spend all their time lying.

Today, the AES is emerging as a model—and they can’t stop talking about Burkina Faso and AES all day long.

Every time, they spread misinformation to divide and manipulate youth.

But it doesn’t work anymore.

I think people are waking up.

And you too are victims of these same people.

Look at what they say about Russia.

Even today, some young Africans still believe their lies about World War II.

I heard someone say that right after the war, if you asked Europeans who won, they said 'Russia.'

Today, if you ask, they say 'the West.'

Through propaganda, they’ve rewritten history.

And they’ve done the same to African history.

They’ve manipulated everything—turned lies into accepted fact.


And now, many young Africans don’t even know what Africa has done.

Some don’t know that our grandparents were sent to the frontlines as cannon fodder—then killed like animals when they came back.

Do people know that when France tested its first atomic bomb, it placed Black soldiers within the lethal blast radius—just to see the effect?

Let’s bring out the archives.

What they’ve done to Africa—it’s horrifying.

We need to communicate all this, so young Africans wake up.

Too many still serve the imperialist message.

They repeat what they’re told—maybe because they’re paid, I don’t know.

But Africans must understand their history and wake up.

That’s our fight too."
The western leaning trolls on this thread should digest this. Unfortunately, we know a leopard can never change it's skin.


It's pathetic when you read comments from some people here defending USAID that a sitting American lawmaker openly exposed as a tool used to sponsor terrorism in Sub-saharan Africa.

Spit.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:31am On May 14, 2025
LordAdam16:
The counterpoint is that Trump is putting on a show for the Arab audience.
The rift, or at least the appearance of one, serves to downplay his culpability in Satanyahu's continued war crimes.

By July/August, he could flip the script on everything.
Houthis, Iran, Gaza, SA nuclear negotiations.

Be that as it may, Trump is using this opportunity to reinforce the persona that he is beholden to no one.
He is also undoubtedly relishing the opportunity to publicly stick it to Satanyahu.

-Lord
Agreed.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:27pm On May 13, 2025
LordAdam16:
There has been some chatter about a rift between Trump and Satanyahu.
I will defer any commentary until the conclusion of his trip to the Gulf.

-Lord
There was always going to be a rift. One of Trump's pre election campaign points is to bring peace to troubled spots across the globe. But Netanyahoo is hell bent on a war with Iran and the complete destruction of Gaza. It's either Trump at staus resolute to his no-war mantra or bent to the neocons war machine quest for a large-scale hot war. The following months will tell.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 8:36am On May 09, 2025
Dvdpity:
60+ yrs old man is young?

You are mental!
In his village a 60 plus years old man is young.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 2:26pm On May 08, 2025
LordAdam16:
😂

The US Navy is carrying out sea trials of its next gen jet-to-submarine conversion program.
The F-18 jet-sub is yet to meet predefined mission objectives and performance goals as the program faces enormous and persistent challenges.
Two prototypes were declared nonrecoverable in the past week.
The Houthis have been valuable partners in creating the correct test conditions to evaluate the jetsub's operational readiness.

-Lord
Now that's a good answer to my previous rhetorical question. grin grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 8:32am On May 07, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡Second US F/A-18 Super Hornet crashes into Red Sea due to "arrestment failure," second jet lost in just over a week from USS Harry S. Truman — CNN
Was it that the carrier landing deck failed to arrest the Hornet on landing or that the heat-seeking missile from the Houthis stir the Hornet's comfort zone and causes it to find a place at the bottom of the sea? undecided
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:22pm On May 06, 2025
LordAdam16:
Mossad gang do not care about the outcome of the war.
Iraq and Afghanistan were success stories for Israel. Saddam is gone and Iraq/Afghanistan directly led to HTS toppling Assad.
Modest AD protection in Iraq and Syria are gone, giving the IAF unprecedented operational freedom.

The national interests of the US and Israel do not always align.
The only inconvenience for Israel wrt Iran is that they'll suffer direct consequences.
Still, that would not dissuade the war hawks. They've sacrificed lives and limbs shadowing insurgents in Gaza.
Dead Israelis is fair game if the objective of a hot war in Iran is achieved.

In academia, you'll find researchers and savants who spend decades of their lives researching a topic, chasing a breakthrough.
The same phenomenon exists in foreign policy circles.
War in Iran is a lifelong goal for folks like Satanyahu, Graham, most of the top echelon at Mossad, and co.
Graham was heavily in favor of pushing Ukraine to take on Russia in an unwinnable war.
They looked at Russia, its capabilities, a war right on its border, and said f*ck it.
What makes you think anything about the operational challenges of prosecuting a war in Iran is going to give them pause?

-Lord
Sadly, your assessment of the political thinking of the neocons and Israeli gangsters is true. Somehow, I feel really sorry for that region that is so rich but wired to be the center of geopolitical hostilities.

Whatever, I'm still hopeful that the warhawk plans for Iran would fail, at least, for the time being.

To conquer Iran, they needed land borders through which they can send in tanks and troops. That was the brain behind the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan -- preparing the ground for a future war with Iran.

Unfortunately for them, Afghanistan turns out to be a quagmire and the resistance in Iraq in recent times have proven to be a tough nut they cannot crack without suffering massive damages. It's getting worse for them as the new Iraqi government now wants the US out of the country ASAP.

These obstacles is forcing the Mossad gang to resort to terrorist tactics deep inside Iran. But how long would they continue with these charade knowing that, for each successful terror and sabotage attack, Iran would come up with more improved means of countering and containing the threat.

Now, there is Turkey to worry about, as Erdogan is bringing in more improved and long range AD systems into Syria in support of the HTS. It won't take long before the two enemies will definitely clash in Syria. That would further complicate things for the Mossad gang because the US hands would be tied in such a scenario due to its strategic ties with Turkey.

Nevertheless, like you tightly noted, we are talking about psychopaths who don't care what the outcome of their diabolic scheme would become. So, they'd keep pressing, escalating and hoping to get the attention they so much crave.

The more I think of it the more I cringe about what's ahead of the world.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 4:37pm On May 06, 2025
Watcharena:
let me go and renew your subscription. The thing has expired so soon, Seun need to do more ,the duration is too short
You are crazy grin grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 12:44pm On May 06, 2025
LordAdam16:
Over the last ten days, Israel and Five Eyes Plus have been carrying out sabotage operations against Iranian industrial targets.

Their war planners want to take out a significant percentage of Iran's dual-use industrial capacity to limit its ability to replenish stocks when the shooting starts.

I'm at the point where I'd be pleased with a hot war.
It'll cleanse Iran's peacetime counterintelligence apparatus. It'll force Iran to acquire a nuke. It'll shatter the foundation of Israel's security.

The odds of a war is currently at <40%.
But as I said in the past, Mossad will do everything possible to trigger a War.
I hope they get their wish.

-Lord
The problem is, Trump won't let the neocon war ship sail, and if it has already, it won't find an easy spot to anchor. Unless, via a massive false flag operation.

Everything is possible with Mossad, like 9/11.

But I'm still betting on Trump to beat them to the game.

A massive war right now will see the US losing its economic primacy. There will be no coming back from it.

That said, they still need a land bridge for any meaningful attack on Iran to succeed. An amphibious adventure will end up in another waste of time and resources for the Yankees. Iran will easily repel and reply to such attacks with equal force and devastating pinpoint accuracy. Thanks to it's proving missile technology.

Unfortunately for the Yankees/Mossad gang, Iraq and Afghanistan, which are the only two land borders to launch such an operation are not ready for such exercise.

I hope it stays that way.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 12:34pm On May 05, 2025
WriterrNg:
I wonder wetin dey this Kursk wey Ukraine wan die put.
It's the ghost of death calling them there. That name is synonymous with death. The largest and deadliest battle fought in WW2--Kursk. The Russian submarine that sunk and killed all of it's inhabitants--Kursk. And now the slaughter and FABOOMNIZATION of Ukronazi troops--Kursk.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 12:24pm On May 05, 2025
shoodboi2:
The comedians in Ukraine say they have killed over 950,000 soldiers and have destroyed almost 11,000 Russian tanks 😂
But, that the truth, only in the reverse. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 12:10pm On May 05, 2025
freakyamanda:
Well, North Korea was in Kursk. Unlike the West and Ukraine, Russia later owned up to their presence. See the result; complete destruction of Ukrainian forces in Kursk.
US and allies should just stick to playing hide and seek the way they are doing. Any attempt at full invasion of Iran will destroy the battered American society.

Ordinary Yemen they have lost 20 reaper drones costing millions each. An attempted Iranian invasion will cost times 1 thousand in money, reputation and lives. I am even hoping for it but I know Trump will not do it. He is a coward.
The American neocons and the Israeli lobby are trying so hard to goad Trump into attacking Iran, but the man is an economist and wouldn't make that mistake. It would be a catastrophe on many fronts.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:11pm On May 04, 2025
shoodboi2:
Imagine categorizing massive bombing campaigns executed using B2 bombers, tomahawk missiles, and aircraft carriers as "limited". These bombers and ships are the most advanced and lethal platforms the US can use against a country. The US has nothing better than them. Absolutely nothing. And yet, he calls it "limited."
His major problem is that he loves to win argument and so do not agree to factual reality.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m):
dermmy:
Imagine U.S had to be using B-2 spirit to bomb the Houthis cause it fears those guys air defence systems. Imagine how many drones those guys have downed. They attacked US aircraft carrier last week with anti ship missile. US is still furious with Iran over the Houthis. I bet it with my balls Trump is just bluffing he won't attack Iran. The consequences of that stupid action will be too much for the so called super power who is still finding it hard to defeat the Houthis. US is sucking itself into another quagmire in the Middle East gradually.

US does not even need to dialogue with Iran they should just start the bombing as usual. Why do you need to dialogue with Iran when you can bomb the country back to the stone age? Remember it is Trump that is calling for dialogue making bombing threats.
Don't mind them.

They think a country that has perfected the art of hypersonic missiles can be bombed to the stone age that easily.

US war planners have gamed th Iran war scenario several times, and the result always turns out to be bad for the attacking forces. The west would lose out big time in the economic front and damage their military presence in the region in such a way that would incite public anger and rebellion far worse than what they experienced during the outcome of the Vietnam war. Trump is all talk and show. He knew a war with Iran could likely end his presidency.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 8:23pm On May 04, 2025
WritterNg:
You forgot to add that from that money they'll give you $10 billion loan with ridiculous interest rates and conditions.

It is even the interests you pay that they'll use to fund all the useless NGOs and armed groups to destabilize your country.

Very demonic folks.
Evil to the core.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 8:19pm On May 04, 2025
emmaodet:
That has always been western nations pattern.
They will make 500b from you, only give you 2b while regularly putting it on media how they spend another 3b as Aids, NGOs, Scholarships etc back on your country.
This is your money they are giving back to you as a fraction of super mega profit they have squeezed out from you.
They will use another 5b to keep sponsoring and making sure a puppet us always your president by splashing the money to manipulate your elections.
All in all, they have only spent back 10b out of 500b they have milked from your economy back to you.
After that?
They start padding their use-less less productive economy with the massive profit they have made from you in GDPs, strong currency and huge trade deficit against your economy with them
That Uranium deal with France was outrageous. The politicians that signed the seal on behalf of Niger need to be hanged in gallows.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:32pm On May 03, 2025
basilico:
Okay You don't know about these Muslim bullies. They are all talk. They can plunge us into WW3 so that they don't look weak
Iran was mining the Straits of Hormuz and harassing ships in 1982.
Reagan bombed their offshore well , took out the rig and sank any Iranian navy vessels on sight .
They tried putting up a show for a few hours but were silenced like kindergarten kids.
Operation Praying Mantis.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

If Trump is behind the attacks they will not do anything like last time when he took out Solemani.They 'begged to be allowed to fire cruise missiles to a particular base after having issued a 30 minute warning.At least they saved face and the Mullahs came out looking strong.With Israel Hamas war ,their facade of invincibility was blown to smithereens.
Middle East has a strong emphasis on saving male honour and Qisas ( revenge). Brothers and father will murder their sister if she dishonours them, for example by
_refusing to get married to a dinosaur they have chosen for her and received dowry
_Not being a virgin before marriage

It's all about their honour,saving face and not being humiliated.

Israel existence is a humiliation to the Muslim world all over,it's still a sovereign Jewish state smack in their midst when they have gone all out on a limb to eradicate it unsuccessfully.
If Iran detonated a nuclear bomb in Jerusalem the worldwide Muslim world will celebrate for thousands of years despite majority of the dead being their fellow Muslims.
I got your point.

I must confess. That last part got me rolling. grin grin

Any way. I just hope all is well from here onward. The world is too volatile.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:21pm On May 03, 2025
shoodboi2:
Yemen shut down the Red Sea despite not having a navy and an air force. So what makes you think Iran, which is more powerful than Yemen, won't be able to pull off such move?
That guy views things in reverse mode. cool

I asked a simple question: if Iran was a walk in the park as some here deems it, why has the US or Israel not invaded and bombed it into the stone age?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:17pm On May 03, 2025
shoodboi2:
They will be sanctioned and overthrown if they dare to openly support Iran. They know too well to not dare an open support.
This is exactly what most people don't realize.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:07pm On May 03, 2025
obedience4:
Your fellow Russian lover, corrected you the first time.. I don't have the time dude.

The above examples I used many may have gotten support via military aid and economical aid, my "MAIN POINT" from all my assertions here was "MUTUAL DEFENCE PACT". which your beloved Iran lacks. You can spin it anyhow you like.. I don't care🤷

You think WW3 is call of duty, Russia a nuclear power is getting bombed with weapons made from The US and sent by the US, it has not triggered WW3 you think bombing Iran would?? Like I said you are way out of your depths.

The Arab world this the Arab world that, Since the bombing of Gaza which Arab nation has taken any solid action, Egypt sealed its borders with Gaza, a pro Russian guy tried correcting you but it seems you would rather wallow in ignorance.

Is it not the same "Arab nations" that helped the Jews along with the US to intercept the missiles barrage from Iran?? Is it not the same "Arab nations" which are hosting US and western military installations.

How come will the same Arab nations, most of them dependent on the US for political and military support, turn around and support IRAN against the US chief ally in the region.

The funny think about your whole argument is that IRAN is not even ARAB, if you are a good student of history you will know that there's animosity between IRAN and most of the ARAB nations.. I ask you the other time to name the Arab nations willing to go to war with Israel on behalf of Iran??, you were mute😂, Just give me two arab nations and state your reasons, You are busying writing about ideologies.

You said Agreements, legal binding arrangements (the Abraham Accords) is mere political talk, isn't that a cliche when your own argument is base on a single fantasy "ideology" Arab hatred for the Jews.

All you wrote can be sumed as tales by moonlight

This is 2025 not 1980s.. the Arabs have moved on.
You keep circling like ripples in the water. This is the last time I will dignify your myopic views with a reply

Your claim: "Iran would fight alone."

My assertion: "Iran can never fight alone in a major war with US/Israel."

Now, you've shifted to "on the basis of mutual defence pact," which further indicates how narrow and shallow you view geopolitical realities.

Listen dude, a Mutual Defence Pact is not always needed to attract support or define strategic shifts in geopolitics. This is where you've been wrong all along.

In times of unprecedented conflicts, nations shift allegiance and forged alliances based on what they deemed as matter of national interest amidst the stark realities of the time.

For example, there was no mutual defence pact in place when China entered the Korean war in favour of North Korea against the US-led UN forces in the late 1950. The Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation, and Mutual Assistance between the two countries only came up later in 1961.

France has no mutual defence pact with Israel, but it's quick to act to safeguard Jewish interest because it feels its interest runs parallel to theirs. Ukraine have no mutual defence pact with NATO, but the military, intelligence, and financial support it has received from the bloc dwarfed any such support to any other country in modern history.

We can go on and on with other examples.

Even where a mutual defence pact exist, the realities of the state actors involved, the economic consideration, public sentiments and the potential outcome plays a huge role in the national psychic of nations when determining whether to get involved or not.

The legal framework is one thing, the reality of getting involved vis-a-vis the opposing player(s) is another.

When the US triggered article 5 of the Nationalized American Terrorist Organization (sorry, NATO) in 2001, all then 19 members and partner countries were quick to pledge their support, which most of them gave directly or indirectly. It was an easy choice to make because the target country (Afghanistan) was no major player. But when same US led some of those partner-in-crime countries to invade Syria in the guise of fighting IS in 2015, it became a different reality because of the presence of one major actor on the side of the Syrian government---RUSSIA!!! cool

After the downing of a Syrian government plane by the US in 2017, Russia said it would start targeting ALL US-led coalition fighter planes that flies across the East of the Euphrates. Guess what happened immediately after the Russian threat. cool

Australia ended it's air and military operation in Syria and ran away like a dog escaping the growling of an angry bear. grin grin

Why? Because Russia is not Afghanistan.

Where the big boys play, the realities are different.

That's why despite the likes of Satan Arabia hosting US military bases, they didn't blink twice in giving the US the economic middle finger by snapping up Russian oil following the unprecedented US-led western economic and sanction war launched against Russia. The same House of Saud undermined the US dollar by trading in local currency with China.

Imagined what these states would do once a major conflicts involving the big boys breaks out. It's then your likes will understand the power of ideology and the uncertainties that surround geopolitics.

As for Russia getting bombed with Western weapons, and not triggering WW3, well, wake me up when it's no longer Russia's stubborn child, Ukraine, but NATO firing the weapons, and let us see if EU capitals wouldn't get visits from Satan 2 and nuclear tipped Mr. Iskander. cool

Till then, be rest assured Iran will never fight alone.

Bye. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 6:53pm On May 02, 2025
WritterNg:
Russia is fvcked.

They should surrender now. It's over.
This local government. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 5:51pm On May 02, 2025
basilico:
You are very wrong. Saudi Arabia and other ME countries as Qatar,Bahrain & Kuwait know Iran is the threat to them. If Israel or USA attacks Iran , they will destroy the oil exporting ports of their neighbouring countries. "If I can't export oil, so shall you not" . Iran will also close the Strait of Hormuz where a huge percentage of oil transits through. That's Iran expressly stated threat.. These countries hate Israel and would like it gone, but they won't get into a foolish fight with Israel America on behalf of Iran.
Saudi Arabia funded the first Muslim atomic bomb,if they want it Pakistani will send them one . Iran going nuclear is no big deal to the Saudi,they can quickly get one from Pakistan. Any law that bans sale of nuclear warheads apart from sanctions threat?
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said Saudi Arabia will join a fight directly with Iran against US/Israel.

I simply mentioned the fact that Iran won't be fighting alone if a major war breaks out in the region. I supported my assertions with factual example.

Iran is a huge and key regional player, you don't have to like or hate it. Fact is fact. When push comes to shove, there are those that would back Iran directly and indirectly.

The world has since moved on from the days when nations particularly in that region only acts subservient to please western diktats. Now everyone is looking out for what's best for itself, especially from a pool of like-minded nations. That's why you have the SCO, BRICs, which Iran is proudly part of.

Based on the current realities, nations, including those supposedly western allies are redrawing their stance and balancing their national interest and geopolitical allegiance on the global scale of equilibrium provided by multipolarism--the new world order championed by a rising China and a determined Russia.

Heck.. even the house of Sauds have normalized relations with Tehran, courtesy of China. In geopolitics, there are no permanent enemies.

Any major war involving Iran will not be limited to the ME alone. Folks that fails to realize this will keep missing the bigger picture. It will quickly spiral to West-Asia and to Africa, viz the rest of the world in a matter of days, if not hours.

Thank God you mentioned Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz. You can imagine the catastrophic damage that would cost the world economically. Just close your eyes for a moment and picture the chain reaction that would cause across the globe.

The more I think about it, the more I pray it should never happen during my time. Most people don't even realize how volatile the world is at the moment.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 1:07pm On May 02, 2025
obedience4:
Israel has fought multiple wars in the past, there is nothing uniting the Arab/Muslim world against Israel, that ship has long sailed man. This is 2025, not the early 1990s
the "Abraham Accords" means Western leaning folks like Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, iraq, Morocco, Thee united Arab Emirates and Bahrain Would always be at peace with Israel..
Please educate us which Arab/Muslim nations will go to war on behalf of Iran?? Syria?? another proxy lost by the supposedly influential Iran??

Let me remind you before Iran supposedly influence in the middle-east, there was a certain Egypt a once major Arab power in the region, then rose up a Saddam hussein led Iraqi, before Iran, they have being major players in the middle-east, What influence does Iran holds?? sponsoring terrorism and arming its proxies?? It can't even help its proxies they are getting decimated by the Jews..

@the bolded, All you wrote are mere speculations.. I work with lay down military pacts, legally binding arrangements not fictional bedtime stories.. I work with facts not emotions..

there's a huge difference between throwing your weight behind someone and fighting along with the person..Iran may get political, economical and military aid from China and Russia, just the same way Russia is currently getting from China and Iran in it's war in Ukraine, Iran will always get supports from the enemies of the US, but they will never put boots on the ground for Iran.. This the ball of contention, don't me wrong.

Russia and especially China putting boots on the ground for an Islamic State of Iran will only happen in your make believe fictional world, but fiction sadly isn't reality.

Sorry sir, but you are clearly out of your depths as regarding middle-eastern politics
I don't have all the time to write long Epistles.

The bone of contention was Iran would fight alone,and from your write up above, you seem to have come to terms with the fact that Iran would never fight alone should a major war breaks out in the ME.

It is not only when your allies deploy boots on the ground can it be classified as helping to fight.

US and NATO forces have not been officially deployed on the ground in Ukraine (though we know they have been there and taking a beating from their lord, Russia cool ,) but Ukraine from day one has never fought alone, thanks to NATO's ISR and top-notch armaments deployed and delivered to serve the Ukro nazi war interests. Similar scenario, if not worst, would play out in the event of a US-led major war with Iran. The signs are there already.

There is nothing like "Iran supposed influence." A country whose activities or when acted against could trigger WW3 is not a small, irrelevant country in the global scheme of events.

Folks like you view things through a lens of sentiment. We view issues from facts and the stark realities that accompanies them.

That's why you cannot see that the Abraham Accord only succeeded in "normalizing" political ties between Israel and several Arab state, but DOES NOT eliminate nor resolve the ideological hatred that underlines the Arab-Jew animosity.

In fact, if there is anything or anytime that the Arab ideological hatred towards the Jews could or have grown in multiple proportion, the whole world have seen it, and we are in that time now; thanks to Netanyahoo's blue-day bombing and murdering of thousands of innocent Palestinian women and babies, in so much that, Israel has succeeded in rallying much of the empathetic world against itself.

Your Abraham Accord is only on political lips.

Iran can never fight alone.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 12:06am On Apr 30, 2025
shoodboi2:
😂

He was literally reposting the same thing over and over with minor variations. He didn't know the exact words that were causing the ban so he was just doing small edits here and there.

He was so dedicated. He was at it for over 12 hours from morning till night. I received 20+ mentions yesterday from him alone and everything was hidden and he was banned.
That's real bad.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 12:01am On Apr 30, 2025
obedience4:
It not about confidence, it what's on ground, you make your points. The US activated Article 5 after the 9/11 attacks and brought Nato into Afghanistan.

The US have allies with legal frameworks binding aggrement to have nations support her in case of conflict.. Japan and South korea had similar pacts with the US.

We just got confirmation of Russia activating its own with North Korea, China has a Ironclad one with North Korea.
When AU threatened to attack the sahel states, The first thing they did was quickly draft a mutual defence pact to come to each others defence when attacked.

What dose Iran have?? What aggrement does she have with any military power to come to her aid when attacked??

Who will come to Iran's aid?? Russia? China??

Iraq fought alone.
Liyba fought alone
Serbia fought alone
Afghanistan fought alone
Greneda fought alone
Panama fought alone
Ukraine is fighting alone
Iran will sadly fight alone😢
You sound just like the typical western leaning folks that usually oversimplified and grossly misunderstood Middle East politics.

From miles away, it's clear that folks like you don't know or just deliberately underestimate the influence Iran weirds in that region.

If it's that simple as you want to believe, the US and Israel would have invaded Iran long ago.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble: on multiple occasions, US think-tanks and war planners have gamed the Iranian war scenario, and on each occasion, the result turns out the same--the US and co suffered more from a direct military confrontation with Iran than Iran suffered.

You want to know why?

Because Iranian influential tentacles in the region would make sure that most, if not all US interests in the region would come under unprecedented attacks that the Yankees would be unable to deal with.

The only thing that unite the Shia-Sunni divide is a war with Israel.

The economic backlash alone would cripple most of the western countries whose economies are already reeling and swimming in relegation waters, courtesy of the proxy war with Russia.

China, knowing damn well how such a war would position it as the prime economic power, would throw its weights behind Iran.

Russia would follow suit. You can take that to the bank.

And once the two giants are in, you can expect a long queue of SCO and BRICS members to line up behind Iran covertly or Overtly.

This is no longer a world order run solely by the west and it's years of oppressive hegemony. This is a new, multipolar world order where no one takes orders as before.

It is folly to live in the comfort of your home and type on nairaland that Iran would fight alone in a war with US and Israel.

In fact, a direct US war with Iran could lead to WW3 compared to any other country, Russia and China aside.

The countries you mentioned that fought alone do not share nor command the same level of geopolitical and regional influence as Iran does. Neither are any of them (Ukraine aside) technologically advanced as Iran.

Guy, Ukraine isn't fighting alone, and Iran would never fight alone.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:12am On Apr 28, 2025
shoodboi2:
Gbadebo don chop another one 😂
It's like the antispam bot has programmed his name to its database, making all his mentions forbidden once he type anything.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:56am On Apr 28, 2025
LordAdam16:
Satanyahu 🤡 mouth is writing checks that his ragtag military can't cash.

Who is "we"?

The IDF has neither the platform nor the munition to "completely destroy" all of Iranian nuclear capabilities.

#noisemaker

-Lord
He is probably counting on US to lead the strikes.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m):
obedience4:
The partnership has been signed already, and there's no mutual defence clause....

If there's a battle in the middle-east today, Iran will be alone....
That's not the partnership we are talking about.


What gives you the confidence that if a war breaks out today in the ME, Iran would be left to fight alone?

The chances of that happening is next to zero.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 7:00pm On Apr 27, 2025
Dabronze:
Let me educate you see fighting war is beyond exchanging bullets and blowing bombs there must be a good relationship between your allies to support you during war in one way or the other

According to Sun Tzu He said
An intelligent military win before going to battle

Before Russia started the war with Ukraine they have already have a plan with China to support them in case of any possible outcome of war so that's why they are doing war drills together, if not because of China Russia wouldn't have overcome the sanctions

All the Sahed missiles they are giving Russia to fight Ukraine is to allied themselves Russia
So that's what is giving Iran the gut that they can fight US

You said Russia is backing iran with what? Are you Lerner?

Without Russia do you think Iran can have nuclear weapons

Before the Ukraine - Russia war who is Iran to go logged head with US.
There is rumor of a planned military partnership between Russia and Iran, the kind they entered recently with North Korea.

If that happens, it would change the geopolitical dynamics in the Middle East, vis-a-vis the US and Israel's strategic policy towards Iran.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 6:22pm On Apr 27, 2025
WriteerNg:
⚡Russia has now fully liberated the Kursk region from Ukrainian forces.
It was a bad Gambit from the start. Unfortunately, the Ukros never learn.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 4:33pm On Apr 27, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡US official to Al Jazeera:

The aircraft carrier USS Truman will leave the Middle East soon.
The Houthis damaged it badly.

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