Masterviolence: Something keeps telling me that I should withdraw my support from trump which I've done some days ago.
Donald trump is not the saviour y'all think he is. Trump is a business man and a stubborn one at that, but he cannot go against the deepstate and their interest. Upon assuming position of the president and getting his sit in the oval office, he'll make more irrational decisions and increase the financing of Ukraine defenses since no active duty American soldier is dying officially in Ukraine.
It's up for trump to prove me wrong if he is lucky enough to win come November.
Masterviolence: Something keeps telling me that I should withdraw my support from trump which I've done some days ago.
Donald trump is not the saviour y'all think he is. Trump is a business man and a stubborn one at that, but he cannot go against the deepstate and their interest. Upon assuming position of the president and getting his sit in the oval office, he'll make more irrational decisions and increase the financing of Ukraine defenses since no active duty American soldier is dying officially in Ukraine.
It's up for trump to prove me wrong if he is lucky enough to win come November.
Believe me, if Trump is the person you're afraid he is, or would become once he assume office, they wouldn't have attempted to assassinate him.
Like JFK, Trump is a 'static nationalist,' devoid of any inner circle control, making him easy to predict because, unlike his opponent, he is emotionally committed to serving the best interest of America, and he knows America hate wars.
You really do not expect Romania, Poland or any of those other midget countries in NATO bordering Russia to shoot Russian drones down. It would just give Russia the perfect excuse to shoot down anything NATO flying in the black sea, especially those AWACS that has been so helpful to Ukraine. Russia can just say they violated its airspace even if they didn't. NATO don't want that.
WrriterNg: ⚡🇺🇦 KIEV SENT 15 TRUCKS WITH DEAD BODIES TO SWEDEN.
The attack on a military communications institute in Poltava and a training center for specialists in electronic warfare and surveillance is beginning to take on new details. Official Kiev says about 50 soldiers have been killed and more than 200 wounded.
Military experts, including Western ones, confirm the deaths of about 600 people, including Czech, German and French "specialists". And Sweden is in complete shock at the loss of the entire leadership of the SAAB long-range radar detection and control systems in Poltava.
Crossing Russian red lines is life-threatening Western journalists and experts continue to discuss the "attack of the century" and report more and more details of the extreme losses.
According to British expert Alexander Mercouris, shared on his blog, among those destroyed in the Iskander strike were specialists trained by the Swedes to operate the AWACS surveillance systems of reconnaissance aircraft.
King Charles XVI of Sweden shuddered at the word "Poltava".
It is already known that German, French and British soldiers served as instructors at the Poltava Military Institute. Their task was to train cadets of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to work with unmanned aerial systems supplied to the Ukrainian army from NATO countries.
But in addition to UAV instructors, there were also top Swedish specialists in electronic warfare and radar systems. The Swedes trained the Ukrainians to work on ASC 890 aircraft to detect long-range radar targets.
The Black Seal, and by extension, the Balkan area is Russia's backyard. They know everything that happens within and around that area. They have a well entrenched advanced intelligent network across the area. It's always going to be suicidal to be secretively planning attacks and throwing punches at Russia from this areas.
If by now NATO doesn't know that there is no place to hide from Russia in Ukraine, then I have a dead horse to sell them.
"Don't expect that once you exploit Russia's weakness, you'll reap dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don't rely on the Jesuitical agreements you made them sign. They're not worth the paper they're written on. Therefore, either play fair with the Russians or don't play at all.'' Otto von Bismarck (1815-1898)
FoolishBoy419: Honestly, I can understand their support for the West (visa things 😂) but it takes a special level of mental retardation to believe China is committing genocide while Israel is not.
soqmeov: A reporter once asked the dumb US secretary of state how they came to the conclusion that on one hand, China is commiting genocide against Uyghurs in Xinjiang (without any substantial or sensible evidence),while on the other, they haven't seen any sign of genocide against Palestinians in Gaza(despite overwhelming evidence). It's no surprise that their fanboys are saying the same crap. 🤡🇺🇸🤡🇺🇸🤡
DaddyCoool: Rigged by who? How? She'll be President simply because she has the demographics and more money. Why not rig in some openly gay dude? Why not?
Does Kamala Harris have more money than Trump? What demographics? You guys overrate the polls too much. Let November come and go first before we can talk of who is president.
DaddyCoool: For you to suppress a truth I want revealed you must be stronger than me. No?
So Kamala is also a man. Who knew. So much for first female president. What's her man name? Oh I forget it can also be a man's name viz;
That burge in between her thighs is something one cannot seriously overlook.
You don't have to be stronger than someone to suppress truth. And mind you, you cannot suppress what has not been revealed. The truth has been revealed, but some of those in the known doesn't want it to get to others around them. That is the suppression the OP was trying to to convey
LordAdam16: From the early days of the War, a strategic concern had been building. We've seen many instances of Russia destroying concentrations of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine. However, Ukraine has been able to amass large aggregations of men and materiel across the country without Russia taking them out. Maybe it's due to AD. Or Ukraine doing too many things at the same time (since they outsource a lot of the planning to the 14 Eyes and the West), that RU has to prioritize. But that inability made the Kursk incursion a possibility.
All they had to do was designate a Kalibr or Iskander for every grouping that exceeds 2,000 men - enough to cause damage - and run down the clock on the Eastern Front.
Add that to the list of limitations. They also can't stop the free flow of weapons into Ukraine. And they also can't destroy Ukrainian military industry since they can always just move underground. This has been a boon for the production of small drones, since they import parts from Asia which does not have the same deficiencies as the West.
Essentially, Ukraine cannot win the war. But they can be a very costly nuisance. The Kursk gambit reflects this. It shouldn't lead to anything significant, but it was always an asterisk. Ukraine amassed soldiers on the borders of Belarus, Transnistria, and Russia. They could have pushed into any of the three. Belarus would be a provocation since they aren't currently a belligerent. Moldova firmly opposed moving into Transnistria. So they went into Kursk. The partisan infiltrations into Belgorod over the past 18 months provided critical insight into Russian defenses and response times. They also softened the underbelly with the deep strikes on airfields and radars.
Russia has the trump card because they have the superior force, a lot of land, larger population, and an intact MIC. By some estimates, Ukraine can only support an incursion of about 100KM. That's the farthest they can go before supply chain and logistic snags wreck them. The deeper they go in, the larger the defense perimeter of the Ukrainians, which they'll have to man with more troops. It also allows Russia lots of surface area to press for pinchers through the flanks. It is a strategic gift. It's the Prigozhin affair again. Let them roll in and make Russia the newest cemetery for Ukrainians. From a PR perspective, this is not ideal. But if I can see it, I'm pretty certain Command would have told Putin that his slow, methodical approach would always have this as a potential outcome. Got to take the good with the bad.
This is also reminiscent of the Kharkov offensive. Ukraine had swift, lightspeed attacks. Captured a lot of ground. It fizzled out. They've been on the backfoot since. And right now a repeat seems implausible. Russia is learning a lot on the fly right now.
I had called for a general mobilization since last year. Equip a 5m man army. Take everything east of Dnieper and connect a land bridge to Transnistria. End the war and prepare for other theaters. Russia will need a lot of operators and resources to back its clients in Africa - Libya, Sudan, CAR, and its new Sahel friends; the Middle East (Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon); its Asian commitments - the Big One (a potential Taiwan invasion), North Korea, India, expanding its Pacific Fleet; and South America - Cuba, Bolivia, Venezuela, and maintaining its strategic interests on the continent.
But Putin wants a slow war . And that provides more time and boundless opportunities for more ship sinking, airfield strikes, terrorism and assassination, taking out pricey radar and AD installations, and Kursk-like incursions. These are the drawbacks of a slow war. Right now, many in the West think a Russian mobilization and all-out attack is justified, but Putin still would not bite.
Certainly Netanyahu has provided a stark contrast even though he has not and cannot achieve his objectives. He has helped buttressed the merits of Putin's approach. Ultimately, this is how he has opted to fight this war. When Medvedev fought the Georgian War, he deployed troops at a 5:1 advantage, disabled Georgian air and naval forces. Then it became a turkey shoot.
-Lord
Your logical deductions vis-a-vis the Ukrainian Kursk incursion and the perceived Russian limitations are not only reasonably sound, but also truthfully captures what has now metamorphose as the stark reality of border wars--somethings would always go through, no matter the party's A2/AD and OSINT capability.
We see this reality playing out many times in the Lebanese/Israeli border front lines where even the most sophisticated AD systems of the IDF is unable to keep tabs on certain missiles and drones launched from Lebanon by Hezbollah. But, we are talking about a war theatre that is densely and sophisticatedly policed than any other war zone currently ongoing anywhere in the world. NATO's "All-Seeing Eve" works around the clock in favour of Ukraine, making it possible for the Ukros to know in advance about certain Russian planned activities, like when White Swans takes off from certain airfields, allowing the Ukrainians to take preemptive and counter measures. But, even at that, Russia has, by its own capabilities and strategic strength, always find a way to hit multiple Ukrainian targets, including ones that appeared to be the most secretively concealed and fiercely defended.
For those who has been following this war, Russia's Intel and it's precision ability to locate, target, and destroy or paralyzed high priority Ukrainian targets, including underground weapons depots, secret command posts, and highly concealed troops and armament movements and deployment, has never been in doubt. This is why border wars are the most difficult of all wars. You may occasionally sneak in some drones and missiles undetected by the enemy, but you can NEVER hide huge troops and armament movements in this kind of war theatre that is highly saturated with eyes in the skies, ears among the enemy, and give aways by captives. This is where the Question Mark appears at the end of the Ukrainian Kursk incursion.
Moving forces from major front lines and forming 6-8 brigades and deploying them to the Sumy region from where the counter attack originated, COULDN'T have gone unnoticed by Russian intelligence. In fact, Ukraine started evacuating populations in the Sumy Region prior to the Kursk incursion. These are glaring signs of something ominous in the offing, which, in my opinion, couldn't have gone unnoticed by the Russians. Except someone can convince me that they're this highly incompetent and unserious. Moreover, one Russian arty man confirmed to Russian sources that they knew before hand that the Ukros were planning to attack the region. Whether they deliberately allowed it or just simply dismissed it as one of those normal Ukro crazy suicide raids is something only time would tell.
Nevertheless, going by your logical deductions, it's yet possible that Ukraine could have pulled this off giving the facts (like you rightly mentioned) that they have over times 'soften the belly,' thus paving the way for this incursion, not to mention that the area was barely defended.
Be that as it may, what the Ukrainians aimed to achieve from this audacious move is something we all will have to wait to unravel. Like you rightly said, if this was a PR move, then it's already dead on arrival. Some soldiers fighting in the Donetsk front said recently that, the morale boost the Kursk incursion gave them has waned out due to the higher losses in manpower and territories Ukraine is losing recently at breathtaking speed. Russia has not pulled troops that are directly engaged in the front lines in Donetsk to go after the Ukros in Kursk. Instead, they have sent reserves to deal with the situation, which is very bad for Ukraine. In fact, one Ukrainian commander stated that his troops located in one of the hot spots in the Donetsk area has only four mortal guns to defend their positions, and that they can only fire 10 mortals per day for each gun. This is so because majority of the high-end assets are being transferred to the Sumy- Kursk fronts to try and stop the advancing Russia reserves. Now, we see why the front lines in the East are collapsing faster than previous times. What they hoped to achieve against Russia is gradually becoming a noose around their own neck.
Like you and Stoplying have rightly noted, this incursion is a show of desperation, the last kick of a dying horse, a last ditch attempt to appear 'relevant' to its western sponsors, some of whom are now willing to dump the 'failed Ukrainian project'. Now that Elensky has lost 3 more HIMARS, 3 Patriots, and 1 Iris-T AD systems in course of this incursion, I wonder what more the coke sniffer is willing to sacrifice just to hold on to large swats of empty land that has no strategic value.
Either way, Ukraine will not come out of this victorious.
On Putin's choice of war, I have never questioned his tactics with regards to the pace at which things are being done. Yes, I understand people saying Russia could have ended this have they declared an all-out war on Ukraine, and mobilized for a quick and decisive victory. Well, I can't say that reasoning is flawed or emotionally driven, giving the facts that Russia is a wsr machine and possess that exact capability to end the war quickly. But then, that is exactly what the US wanted. A quick and devastating onslaught that would have made Gaza pale in comparison considering the size, population density and urbanization of Ukraine. In fact, had Russia taken that route, most of us wouldn't be here talking about Genocide in Gaza today. Netanyahoo and his fellow Anglo-zionist, genocidal sympathizers on this thread and across Europe would have seen a perfect excuse to obscure their devilish deeds. It would have been a perfect excuse for the western elite to establish their whataboutism, and paint Russia the beast they have always called it and wanted it to be in the eyes of all nations.
When that US General said that Kiev would fall in 3 days if Russia invaded, he wasn't mincing words. They knew Russia has the capability to achieve that, and they were hoping and goading Russia to take that route. But, instead, Russia rolled out the famous 'Z' letter underscoring its SMO choice, rather than the Russia we saw in Aleppo in 2015 or in Georgia in 2008. The Putin's slow, methodical grinding of the Ukrainian armed forces isn't just the best option because it gives Russia the time to adapt to and counter NATO's Massive and formidable Intelligence capabilities, and gain immense first-hand knowledge of NATO weapon qualities and capabilities, it has enabled Russia to expose to the entire world the double standards of the west. This has both caused a tectonic shift in many nations foreign policy and alignment preferences. Many nations across the globe are now linking up economically and politically with Russia and China. Instead of Russia being isolated. It's the west that's being told to get the hell out in places like Africa, and in Asia and the Middle East, nations now call their bluff.
Again, a quick all out destruction of Ukraine would have mean Russia killing its own people in the East and destroying parts of its own history, which is something the western demons have always wanted. Slavs killing Slavs. The refugee crisis would have been unprecedented. And come to think of it: even in this slow methodical pace, none of the wicked sponsors of this crisis in Europe and beyond are housing more Ukrainians than those currently in Russia. So. Is in Russia's best interest to take it slowly because the slower it goes, the stronger Russia becomes while the west continue to weaken economically and divided politically.
As for mad man Zelensky, invading Russia isn't a problem, living to tell the tale is the PROBLEM.
Aizenosa1000: The suicide squad will be wiped out one way or the other, it's like running into the military barracks and screaming because the brigade is out fighting.
That's right, and it's already happening gradually.
Stoplying: It feels like the last kick of a dying horse. The desperation of this move shows that Ukraine has lost the war and zelensky and NATO know it. Their media is in full blown propaganda right now.
This move is good for zelensky in the short term (he's become the hero of the media once again) but this move is bad for Ukraine in the short term and the long term.
You're right. Every sane thinking person knows the Kursk incursion is not sustainable for the long-term. What the coke sniffer is trying to achieve is still baffling to many because it makes no strategy sense. Except that they are actually going for the Kursk nuclear power plant as a way to have some leverage. Otherwise, this incursion that's now becoming a suicide mission doesn't make any logical or common sense.
Stoplying: I don't think it is deliberate. But it is a calculated risk. The Russian military knew it were a possibility and calculated the risk, they made up plans in case it happens and concluded it would be a bad deal for Ukraine. Ukraine made the move, the Russians executed the plans prepared for this eventuality. You should study game theory a little bit.
The endgame will tell. But, I know after this, Ukraine will never be the same again.
Ska333ko: ❗The Russian army has "come very close" to the city of Pokrovsk in the DPR
The head of the local administration, Sergei Dobryak called on residents to evacuate, as the Russian military is "a little more than 10 km from the outskirts of the city".
Earlier Ukrainian soldiers from the Pokrovsk front told Politico that after the start of the Kursk operation, the situation for them worsened.
⚡Ukraine will pay a very high price for the Kursk adventure!
This is exactly what I was saying.... The Russians deliberately allowed the Kursk fiasco to unravel. Majority of the fronts are now collapsing with speed because Ukraine has moved most of their best fighting force to the Sumy region from where the Kursk offensive was carried out. Now, the man on Coke would be doubling down to keep the current PR narrative going on the media that, they're fighting Russians inside Russia, whereas, his defense front lines deep in Ukraine are collapsing much easier than before.
There is a reason why Elensky is a comedian. Pathetic.
Vl3ly: 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡- Ukrainian Commander-In-Chief, Oleksandr Syrskyi, has transferred the 128th Brigade from Volchans'k (Kharkov direction) to the Pokrovsk sector.
Russian forces have captured 37 sqkm of area in the Pokrovsk direction in less than 48 hours.
I love the way the Russians simply focused on their quest in the Kharkov and Nicholaiev directions, refusing to pull troops from the south to attack the Ukrainian Kursk suicide mission grouping currently running amok over there. What they thought or expected to be a distraction for the Russians, is now slowly turning to be a blessing in disguise because the Ukrainian sham offensive in Kursk means less men to defend from the Russian attacks on most of the fronts. The Russians are now taking territories at much easier speed compared to the square meters they were taking before the Ukronazi Kursk suicide mission.
Now, it's making more sense. One Russian artillery man told a news source that the Russian authorities got wind of the planned Ukrainian Kursk incursion before it happened. The fact that they still allowed it to happen speaks volume. And when you consider how they're responding to it (tacitly instead of frantically), one tend to believe what the artillery man said. But, what is the Russian end game in this? Is it to lure Ukro troops from their defense lines and make the Russian objectives of taking targeted territories more attainable? Or to form another meat grinder deep inside Russia, which would be easier than Bahkmuth because the Ukros would have huge problem supplying their units in Kursk once the Russians turned around to face them squarely? Or is Russia purposely encouraging this Kursk incursion to drain Ukraine of its remaining best fighting force and then open another front? Russia still has a huge force sitting in Belarus and another in the Zaporozhia direction. Whatever the endgame might be, one thing is certain, Ukraine will never come out of Kursk in good shape.
Mille: I personally don't care who wins the US elections but I must applaud the Democrats for playing their games well.
From Trump certainly winning the election by a wide margin after his failedassassination, to Trump now closely trailing in polls. Elon Musk's support of Trump hasn't helped either.
BoldBrainz: Mr WriterrNig, your thread is becoming a beehive of low-brained toxicity.
A decent measure of us didn't sign up for these juvenile shenanigans when we took an interest to the proceedings here but it's becoming obvious that there's a disturbing lack of order herein.
Either you call the attention of the requisite moderating channels or we'll opt for individual cleansing measures. I cannot wake up to a hectic society on a daily and come online to the repugnant drama of children shoving threats and delinquent behaviour down the throats of everyone.
We are not animals and it is only fitting we all endeavour to not act likewise.
You spoke my mind.
It's a real shame seeing what is going now on this thread that once upon a time was a sane gathering for sound, intellectual and logical discourse. Now, we have untrained, immature kids ruining this thread. I don't blame them perse, I blame some of us here that is giving them the attention they wanted. Very sad.
Stoplying: Your own opinion quotes an entire sentence which is not yours. It is academically more ethical to give credit to where you got the sentence from. 1. Ukrainian military being in Russia is of no relevance, this is a war, and Russia is applying attrition strategy. Ukrainian soldiers in Kursk is to the military advantage of Russia. You seem to be focused on PR like zelensky while you should be focused on strategy. 2. Russia has always been kind in geopolitics and Warfare, it is their tradition, they even treated the Nazis with kindness, they treated Finland with kindness after ww2, they treated Germany with kindness and trust in 1991, they treated Galicia with kindness and trust in 1991. Russia trusted the USA in 1991. Russia always obeys agreements and gives trust to people who (after the test of time ) do not obey agreements and don't deserve trust. I think that that is changing now. It has nothing to do with Putin, it is russian culture which they need to change. 3. Russia seems to always be taken by surprise when its adversaries break all conventions and do things like supporting or enabling or ordering terrorist attacks or directly doing terrorist attacks. Russia needs to have a better understanding of the fact its foe don't follow rules. But Russia has a little historical inferiority complex which makes it such that Russia always imagines it needs to prove that it is not a savage nation to others while Russia always expects its foes to be as civilised as Hollywood claims.
Kingsnairaland: Now is the time for Russia to kill all those retired jet pilots that killed innocent people in Afghanistan and Somalia and Iraq and Syria and Libya and co
That of Iraq was particularly painful watching the footage of US and British pilots deliberately targeting and shooting running women and children. It was so horrible that the House of Lords opened a formal inquiry into the civilian massacre but the investigation was swept under the carpet later on. I wonder how those pilots manage to sleep at night.
Vl3ly: ❗️The EU threatens Elon Musk with legal consequences if he doesn't censor his live conversation with Donald Trump because they seem it a threat to "civic discourse and public security"!
dvkot: You are 100% right i think putin miscalculated on how far the west is willing to go, so he played too careful.
On what parameters did he miscalculated? Leading a nation the status of Russia is not like being a Tinubu in Nigeria or one of those normal African countries.
Mille: This idiot is finally back on this thread. Our fake lawyer from Kwara state. Mr all Palestinian children are terrorists and suicide bombers.
Mr Gbadebo is from Illorin. His ancestors betrayed the Yoruba tribe for the Fulani jihadists. Mr Gbadebo's great grandfather was a traitor to the Yoruba race, his grandfather was a traitor, his father was a traitor, he is a traitor, and his children if he has any would be traitors to the Yoruba race and would not hesitate to betray you to Islamic Jihadists.
There is no amount of good that you can do that can wash that stain of being traitors and Jihadists off you and your children.
You still remember that flawed reasoning.? You get time o.
For some reasons, I find this Ukrainian incursion into the Kursk region as historically interesting. The Battle of Kursk, if we can recall, was the largest tank battle ever fought in history, involving about 5-6,000 tanks, 2 million troops, and 4,000 aircraft. It marked the decisive end of the German offensive capability on the Eastern Front and paved the way for the mighty Soviet offensives of 1944–1945.
Now, Ukraine and so-called NATO mercenaries are in Kursk....?
He that the gods want to destroy they first drive mad.
The cosmic order is definitely planning something sinister for Ukraine and the west. History always repeat itself.
Allthelight: Some of you are very funny... Untill russia commit troops to kursk...
The ukrainians will keep advancing... Loses are nothing in a war.
Keep reading propaganda
Advance to where? Every sane person knows this is just a stupid PR stunt. We have lost count of how many times the comedian played this card and it did not end well.