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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 7:26am On May 09, 2023
Badassniggga:
LoL why would you need to study the weapons of those you claim is low tech and obsolete? Is it that you don't trust in your own weapons or what? Americans Sha grin
Of course, not. They want to study it because long ago, Turkey discovered that the S-400 can track and keep tabs on the US F-22 and F-35 stealth fighters, does effectively rendering them obsolete. cool That was why they abandoned the overrated flying coffin I. Favour of the S-400. cool

Historically, the Russians are masters of missile technology.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 7:12am On May 09, 2023
WriterrNig:
⚡️The 🇺🇸 United States asked 🇹🇷 Turkey for access to the S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems acquired from 🇷🇺 Russia for their study, said Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu.

"The United States asked for access to the S-400 in order to study them. But for us it was unacceptable, it contradicted our independent policy. We refused," he said in an interview with the Habertürk TV channel.
This is why they hate Erdogan.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 7:08am On May 09, 2023
WriterrNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Yevgeny Prigozhin says they have a new agreement with Russia Ministry Of Defence, ☠ Wagner will get all the supplies they need and more, they will have a complete tactical carte blanche on the Bakhmut front, and General Surovikin will be the new liaison between Wagner and RU MOD.
The way Prigozhin and Russia played Ukraine in Bakhmuth is worse than how the CIA played the American people over 9/11. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 7:03am On May 09, 2023
WriterrNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Prigozhin said that the operation of the ☠ Wagner group had fulfilled its task in Bakhmut.

According to him, the goal of the Bakhmut meat grinder was not to take the city, but to grind the units of the Armed Forces of 🇺🇦 Ukraine. He said that 95% of the territory of Bakhmut is now under the control of 🇷🇺 Russian forces, and the remaining 5%, according to him, "do not play any role".

He said that he doesn’t care about being in the history books as the one who took Bakhmut, he cares about serving his own people — RIA
This is something most of us sane thinking folks have always known. The Russians were never hell bent on capturing Bakhmuth, they just used it to kill as many Ukro soldiers as they could because Cocaine laden Elensky was hell bent on holding on to the city at all cost even when western military advisers told him to leave.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 6:55am On May 09, 2023
Tiopii:
Russia first attacked with hundred of thousands of their force, after Ukraine successful counter offensive where they reclaimed Kherson and Kharkiv, Russia did another mobilization of bout 300k, that's the official figures but there are suggestions that they are alot more. Russia is still doing covert mobilization as they are still sharing mobilization letters.

Russia is even recalling soldiers in peace keeping missions and posting them to Ukraine .

You're supposed to say Russia haven't used 99.9% of their force, 90% is too small

so all the soldiers that Russia mobilized are Ukrainians and Polish citizens na. like say you no dey think
Really? cool

The Russians first attacked with 109, 000 soldiers, not hundreds of thousands as you claimed. Kharkov was never defended by Russia. Kherson wasn't completely taken by AFU, 60% of the city is still on Russian hand, and the damn Russians don't mind giving away some ground to save their soldiers life especially where it is practically impossible to defend such grounds for the time being. Unlike Ukraine who have expended thousands of lives just to hold Bakhmuth. So get your facts right.

Of the 300,000 soldiers Russia mobalized, not a single one of them have been pushed to the main fronts. More than half of that are still undergoing training. Draft letters are still ongoing because the official figures have not even been reached yet. Don't kid yourself. If 30% of Russian real forces are in Ukraine, this war would have been over. What Russia is doing over in Ukraine is like a police job. Initially, the foolish west think they have Russia cornered in Ukraine, unfortunately for them, they've turned out to be the ones who are cornered. Out of shame, they can't get out nor admit the Russians have won. On the other hand, the Russians have all it takes to play the waiting game. In the end, Ukraine will end up being destroyed or partitioned to pieces. None of my business though. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 6:29am On May 09, 2023
okeysoninv:
Patriot air defense system shot it down. you can now cry .
grin grin Patriot that can't even shoot down ordinary Houthi scud missiles? grin grin Even the Ukrainians have said they never shot anything down. cool The joke is on you dear angry prophet. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: ‘ukraine Shoots Down Russian Hypersonic Missile Using US Patriot System’ by Appleyard(m): 11:07am On May 06, 2023
Watcharena:
The story need not to be disputed everyone has already taken the side of the story he want to believe , how can an explosive missile be intercepted by an explosive air defense system and remain intact without explosion from either the interceptor or the missile itself, that looks like it was destroyed by an arrow just so many lies in war we just don't know the real battle situation in Ukraine both side lie a lot
Probably an arrow fired by prince Arthur and magically guided by Merlin to take down Me. Khinzal. cool I'm loving this new Ukro Version of Merlin. cheesy
Foreign Affairs › Re: ‘ukraine Shoots Down Russian Hypersonic Missile Using US Patriot System’ by Appleyard(m): 11:04am On May 06, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Lol they are still been feed Hollywood lies.
From the Ghost of Kiev to a Ukrainian old civilian shooting down a Russian attack helicopter with a double barrel shotgun, to Russian soldiers using shovels to fight to Khinzal being shot down from the sky with Patriot without exploding. grin

"A day without comedy in Ukraine is a day wasted." Elensky. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:56am On May 06, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Lol yes with an arror

Fa**, Prophet lol.
I can't believe he could fall for such hogwash. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:54am On May 06, 2023
okeysoninv:
Ukrainian air defense units shot down a Russian Kinzhal missile.
You fell for this?? grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:39am On May 06, 2023
Masterviolence:
There's a reason why historians tells every nation on earth not to be hostile towards Russia.

Because during war you'll find out the hard way.
The reason historians tells us this, is because they (Russia) Evolve during war.
No matter what you throw at them, as the war rage on, the things you throw become ineffective.

No one get to hear:
The Bayraktar
The javelin
The NLAW
The switchblade
The stinger
The himar
We don't hear about them anymore, because the Russians has figured out how to make them ineffective.
So true. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:29am On May 06, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Spriter @Spriter99880 - Watch
🇺🇸 US General Cavoli: Russia is actually winning the conflict in Ukraine
Cavoli stated this in testimony to the House Armed Services Committee. He explained that the degradation of the Russian armed forces" was grossly misrepresented by the media.
“Most of the Russian military has not been affected by this conflict,” Cavoli said.


Is this info true.
Every sane thinking Efe and Dele knows this has always been the case from day 1. It's only the destructively comedic lying mainstream media and their gullible fanboys here that believe Ukraine was actually winning. 90% of the Russian army have not even entered this war. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: ‘ukraine Shoots Down Russian Hypersonic Missile Using US Patriot System’ by Appleyard(m): 12:42am On May 06, 2023
No. Ukraine shot it down with catapult. grin

Patriot that cannot even shoot down ordinary Houti Scud missiles. grin grin It's funny how Nazi sympathizers carrying Ukraine to always winning the war on social media. cool

If they believe the ghost of Kiev, they can believe anything. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:52pm On May 03, 2023
WriterrNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Putin orders Army to neutralize all senior Ukrainian officials, including Zelensky.
Game on.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:45pm On May 03, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡️🇮🇷 Iranian Naval forces have seized another oil tanker, second time in less than a week.
Tit for tat.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:42pm On May 03, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Wagner PMC founder Prigozhin showing an ammunition depot in the mines under Soledar at a depth of 150 meters in a 5 km long gallery with more than 300,000 boxes of weapons & ammunition abandoned by 🇺🇦 Ukrainians in the salt mines of Soledar and Bakhmut as they retreat.

Prigozhin says he can arm an entire army of 1 million people with it. Almost all weapons are Soviet
Imagine. Yet they will complain of weapon shortage.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 1:08pm On May 01, 2023
WriterrNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Russian ✈ Aerospace Forces "smart bombs" destroy bases and clusters of equipment of the Armed Forces of 🇺🇦 Ukraine in the south before the counteroffensive. An accurate blow destroyed hangars with equipment in the Kherson region.

Reconnaissance reveals, and aviation continues to destroy enemy targets with gliding bombs.
FAB 500 and 1500 at merciless work. Peter bringing out the real toys little by little. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 1:07pm On May 01, 2023
WriterrNig:
⚡️Pavlohrad, Donetsk Region in Eastern 🇺🇦 Ukraine hit by multiple massive explosions. Reports suggest missiles struck a rail yard and Ukrainian arms depot accumulated for the counter-offensive, on the outskirts of the city.
Call it the counter-counter offensive by the Russians. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 1:03pm On May 01, 2023
WriterrNig:
⚡️ Former Prime Minister of 🇺🇦 Ukraine accused NATO of PR on aid to Ukraine.

NATO sends non-working equipment to Ukraine to create the appearance of help. This was stated by the former Prime Minister of Ukraine Mykola Azarov.

“NATO continues to promote military assistance to Ukraine, in fact, sending non-working military equipment there. So, out of 20 M109 self-propelled howitzers transferred by 🇮🇹 Italy, not one was ready for battle,” Azarov said.

He also cited the case when 🇵🇹 Portugal handed over non-working Leopard tanks to Ukraine.

[b]Azarov added that European countries do not even have the financial ability to repair equipment before shipping.
[/b]
grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Seun And His Mods Are Just Pathetic Western Ass Lickers And Propagandanist by Appleyard(m): 1:36am On May 01, 2023
Babapyro:
We complain about western media propaganda and one sided narrative only to come into our own country and find the same fools who doesn't like to tell the truth but push a particular agenda on us.
This mods never push any news about Russia that is not anti Russia,they never push to FP any news about all the attrocities Ukraine and the west has done since February.
Their only job is to find unconfirmed and fake reports and spread it here to thousands of people and I'm sick of it
Truth be told, the Mode here have been extremely bias and deliberately taking sides, which is very bad.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:23am On Apr 27, 2023
Vl3ly:
is this another prophecy, make I mark am down, hope you understand what I mean
grin grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:16am On Apr 27, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡️🇦🇷 Argentina to pay for imports in Chinese Yuan, ditching the 🇺🇸 US dollar.

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105382838-1533704770705gettyimages-1004174496.jpeg
Everyone self-dedollarizing.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:10am On Apr 27, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡️🇺🇸 US authorities have allowed JPMorgan Chase to execute payments to Russian agriculture bank Rosselkhozbank to remove obstacles to 🇷🇺 Russian grain exports, a person familiar with the situation told AFP Wednesday.

Officials with the US State and Treasury departments sought to enlist the bank ahead of the first harvests in order to facilitate deliveries to countries that need the food, according to this person.
Lmao. The US don't give a dime about some poor country in its sanction wars. What they are not saying here is that they have been buying Russian grain through the backdoor, and that also includes Russian fertilizer, and microchip making materials. I just feel sorry for Elensky who decide to destroy his country to please the American cabals.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:05am On Apr 27, 2023
WrriterNig:
🤡 Ibime 🤡 Look 👆🏻

$49 a barrel my ass.
grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:04am On Apr 27, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡️Bloomberg: Oil traders are violating the G-7 oil price cap in Asia and they are buying 🇷🇺 Russian oil at $70 per barrel, well above the price ceiling set by the West.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-26/oil-traders-are-violating-the-g-7-oil-price-cap-in-asia-researchers-say#xj4y7vzkg
I thought it was being sold for $49 only. cool When you're big, you're big. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 4:53pm On Apr 26, 2023
WritterNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Russia's biggest bank, Sberbank, has released a ChatGPT competitor called 'GigaChat'

https://cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/LILW2FOGZNI35JPW33XQFZVTUU.jpg
AI to the Moon this year. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 3:10am On Apr 24, 2023
okeysoninv:
I saw it coming. more to follow suit. clock is ticking if you know ,you know.
Sorry. But each time I see your posts on 'I saw it coming,' I don't know why I always laugh out loud. grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:34am On Apr 23, 2023
Ibime:
Too much words of a foolish putard. Numbers don't lie.

Assignment for you.

1. Give us price of Urals in October 2022, then give us price in March 2023 - impact of pricecap.

2. Give us Russia oil Revenues in March 2023 Vs March 2022, let us see if everything is Uhuru

3. Give us Russian budget deficit for 2023 to date Vs Budget deficit of 2022 to date

4. Give us Dollar to Ruble price in November 2022, (just before the pricecap) Vs Dollar to Ruble today

These are numbers very easy to Google search, and cuts through your foolish Putard propaganda which is full of words but no numbers. I have done No1 for you below. Pull up the answers to question 2 to 4 and slap yourself
Truly, you ain't worth the debate. Once a kid, always a kid. You are so emotional. grin

You dodged the fact that you were caught lying about Russia selling it's entire oil at $49, but price of Russian ESPO shipment to Asia proved you wrong. cool

You lied by passing Urals as the benchmark of Russian oil export, which is not. ESPO oil proved you wrong. cool

No one was arguing about whether or not there were down turns in revenue this year compared to 2022. Heck, even Saudi-Arabia experienced downturns in revenue due to market fluctuations.

But the goddamn Russkies were still making profits from their oil sales in the face of western economic sanction wars.

Even the price of Urals rallied above the price cap in April this year, and you're still talking about March? grin

Here is an excerpts from Reuters this month:

"Russia is enjoying stronger revenues vIa sale of oil despite western sanctions and price cap.

Russian Urals oil cargoes that loaded in the first half of April are mostly heading to
India and China who have snapped up the vast majority of Russian oil so far in April at prices above the Western price cap of $60 per barrel, according to traders and Reuters calculations.

That means the Kremlin is enjoying stronger revenues despite the West’s attempts to curb funds for Russia’s military operations in Ukraine.

The advocates of the cap have said it reduces revenues for Russia while allowing oil to flow, but its opponents argued it is too soft to force Russia to backtrack on its activities in Ukraine.

The latest data from Refinitiv Eikon suggested that Russian Urals oil cargoes that loaded in the first half of April are mostly heading to India’s and China’s ports.

India accounted for more than 70 percent of the seaborne supplies of the grade so far this month and China for about 20 percent, Reuters calculations showed.


Meanwhile, lower freight rates and smaller discounts for Urals against global benchmarks nudged the daily price of the grade back above the cap earlier in April from a period of trading below.

India and China have not agreed to abide by the price cap, but the West had hoped the threat of sanctions might deter traders from helping those countries buy oil above the cap.

Average discounts for Urals were at $13 per barrel to dated Brent on a DES (delivered ex-ship) basis in Indian ports and $9 to ICE Brent in Chinese ports, according to traders, while shipping costs were $10.5 a barrel and $14 a barrel respectively for loadings from Baltic ports to India and China.

That means the Urals price on a free on board (FOB) basis in Baltic ports, allowing about $2 per barrel of additional transport costs, has been slightly above $60 per barrel so far in April, Reuters calculations show.


The population of these two countries alone is more than the whole of foolish Europe put together, so the more oil Russia is shipping that way, the more revenue it makes. While the damn Europeans rebuys same oil at a price more than Russia sells to them. Who is the fool here? cool

These are facts, emotions don't count. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 3:07pm On Apr 22, 2023
Ibime:
Mumu, after all this to confirm that Urals is trading at massive discount.

Urals and Brent were trading within the same price range until the price cap. That is fact. Pricecap has knocked $20 off each barrel. That is fact.



As to your last paragraph, please help me with Russias budget deficit YTD if Russian budget is based on $40. Russia is already on $29bln deficit for the year, over 70% of the deficit target it set for 2023 already exceeded in Q1. Google is your friend.

The price of production of each barrel is around $40 so anything sold at $40 yields zero to the Government. I don't know where you got that budget is based on $40, and if so why is budget at massive deficit while trading between $49 and $60?

After googling, then Google the Ruble to dollar price and explain why the Urals selling so low has no effect when Ruble has backslid 30% since the pricecap. Maybe because Russian forex reserves which they used to manipulate the Ruble have been impacted by the pricecap?
You confirmed my fears. You're a kid and not worth the debate. Cause only kids throw tantrums across faceless forums.

I don't expect you to reason logically, kids don't do that other than calling people mumu. cool across a faceless forum. Stop that and grow up. cool

You claimed that Russian oil is being sold for $49 caused of sanctions, which turned out to be false. The price for Russian is dynamic and vary according to the oil trade involved. The price for Urals had always been affected by market monthly fluctuations even before the Ukrainian war began. Brent crude has always have the edge over its Urals counterpart whether by $3 or $20 or so. Yes, the Europeans cutback on the purchase of Russian Urals oil it's a contributory factor to the current price, but this too is largely subjective and limited.

For instance, some European countries on long-term contract with Gazprom are still paying the normal price, which is above the ceiling cap of $60 set by the EU.

Your Rouble to Dollar price argument holds no water because you make it look like the Urals represent the entire oil price and volume benchmark exported by Russia, which is not.

Urals oil is the main grade of crude oil exported from Russia to Europe.

In contrast, the market price of the Russian Eastern Siberia-Pacific Ocean (ESPO) grade oil, which is traditionally exported to Asia, has been closer to international oil prices and stayed at levels above the oil price cap. This may reflect the fact that around 45% of Russian oil exports to eastern Asia are transported via pipelines to China, which are not affected by sanctions from the G7 and EU countries. In addition, ESPO oil has usually been shipped by tankers flagged in countries outside the G7 and EU, which makes it easier to transport Russian ESPO grade oil without being subject to the new sanctions.


To allay your doubt, India and China snapped up Russian crude oil in April 2023 at prices above the western cap ceiling, and this was largely reported by western media houses. This is how Russia has making the huge revenue accredited to it's oil sector despite western sanctions. This also explain why Russia have strategically pivoted to the East in recent years. The west is an economic house on the decline, the EastAsia axis is the most promising and next economic hub of the future.

The western thinking that if they whined Europe off Russian oil and gas would be the end of Russia is the greatest and worst geopolitical economic miscalculation of the 21st century. Not only had this folly caused a massive realignment of nations once loyal to the western diktats, but also creat cost western competitive advantage as they have to gtabblr with the reality of increased production cost. cool

Russia has always since pegged its budget financing at $40 per barrel since 2018. There were attempt to raised the stakes up to $60 last year, but I didn't follow up on that, and I doubt if it took off at all considering the SMO.

You may want to look that up.

Once again, when you're big, you're big. cool

Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 1:34pm On Apr 22, 2023
WritterNig:
⚡️🇬🇧 Britain’s new emergency alert system can be hacked with less than $1,000 of equipment and a YouTube tutorial.
Hilarious. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 1:23pm On Apr 22, 2023
WritterNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Dmitry Medvedev regarding 🇩🇪 German Defence Minister’s comments about military strikes against Russian territory:

“He surely envies the glory of the third reich warlords. Well, he actually needs to remember a historical omen.

The German who wishes to attack Russia, must be ready for our parade in Berlin.”
Classic Medvedev. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 12:36pm On Apr 22, 2023
Ibime:
It's literally in the link you just quoted. Take the price of Brent ($70-$80) and remove $20 for Urals for the days they gave you

Or if you want it spelt out to you, you can look at the price of Urals in the graph below from when the price cap came in in December till date, you will see it has been ranging $49 to $60 while Brent has been between $70 and $80.

Like I said, most Putards lack financial education
I would have ignored your ignorance but let me just afford you the benefit of the doubt that you're just being innocently ignorant.

The price of Russian Urals oil had already fallen way before the invasion of Ukraine, so I don't know what financial education you learnt that is better than all others, including that of the white man. cool

The price cap too has failed dramatically because Russian oil keep finding its way into the EU market via so many backdoors at a rate that has the EU paying more for their oil than the usual. . More over, it's not even sustainable given the market Dynamics and the many players involved.

While Russian oil revenue has without doubt decline due to the brouhaha with the EU, there is a reason why the Russians would hardly lose sleep over the shortfalls in revenue. This is because the Russian national budget financing was pegged at $40 per barrel. So, even if it's sells say at $60 or even at $55, it's still a massive profit considering the record massive sale it has been recording.

FYI, nowhere was it recorded that Russia sold its oil at $49 per barrel. Average is a range, and doesn't mean exact. So you shouldn't be basing our final figures on it.

It would interest you to know that some countries in Europe (including the cursed Poland elite) are still buying Russian oil at the normal rate. cool

Don't let emotion cloud your sense of judgement. Even one Ukrainian oil consultant while speaking to the Economist describe the scenario as ironic and ridiculous that the Russians they claimed to have sanctioned is the same entity they're buying oil from. grin

The takeaway here is that despite all the sanctions imposed by the EU and the US, including the price cap, Russian oil is still finding its way around the world, and into the EU, which entails the failure of the sanction war. While the EU is busy paying more for it's oil. cool

When you're big, you're big.

Russia is too big for the midget EU and its America vassal to isolate. cool

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