9ja too like to focus on triviality. The guy is well-known, his family, childhood, education, job, etc.

In 9ja, people can have a dozen names. Those from several ethnic origins have names from many languages.

We should instead get candidates to tell us their concrete plans for the state.

Some even say Ighodalo needs a translator. Again, that is totally irrelevant.

Lucky Igbinedion needed no translator yet he did nothing.

Nice

Oba Ewuare I's reign was phenomenal. He was an exceptional reformer and administrator.

Sadly, we don't study reforms by African kings as Europeans were at the tail end of Middle Ages.

We can learn a thing or two from them.

rotadeco27:

How else would he have gone about it? Did u read the article? The previous administration did not make provisions for subsidy in the budget. He would use his money to pay it or what?

But this govt can do appropriation budget, supplementary budget and padding when it's about theirs and NASS pockets. Dude, citizens don wise pass all that talk na.

meum:
Removing subsidy is one thing, how to go about it is what makes the difference.

So, Tinubu govt did giraffing in exam. They used another candidate's Velocity formula to solve their own electricity Ohm's law question.

Shettima nor go wunjure person with laff here o.

Ghostagain:

Your lazy brain and your pride. Bad combo.
You seem to think your "knowledge" is worth mine, while you should have been learning from me and you should have left your toxic pride far far away.
You are at the level of confusing fairytales with actual history. I was trying to bring you up to the level of knowing the difference between fairytale and history. But somehow you thought both of us lived in parallel universes and therefore in your universe, you could be right ?

Let us both go to the palace and tell BTC you want to educate them on Benin history. At least with your omniscience, sharp brain and superior knowledge and wisdom than King Solomon, that should be easy. It might take me a very long journey to do but I would make out time to come.

Let's settle it that way. Running from this would be sheer cowardice.

I don't know you or care about your opinion on anything.

Only you know why your are obsessed with my opinion and crave my attention.

RealTrump:
People in d diaspora should give u guys money, d same money that you can decide to divert, to defend naira

I wonder who dey give these people mind

You have to appreciate their audacity tho

Good luck to any diasporan who will commit even a dollar to such an investment. I would rather dash it to a beggar on the street.

Ghostagain:

Areafada, your brain is lazy. I've tried to give you respect in the past, but I can only notice your inability to learn.
Once again, oduduwa never existed, it is just a made up story, a fairytale.
Why didn't you learn after all I posted in front of your eyes ?
You are not a kid! just stop living in fairytales!
You've seen precolonial maps and texts, you ignored those and chose to dwell on stories?
Those stories were made to take Benin's prestige away from Benin and give them to the oni of Ife, but your brain doesn't comprehend this ! The oni is nothing but a village priest, and thanks to intellectually lazy people like you, he is parading himself as an emperor in 2024, a year in which education is cheap.
You just can't rise your iq up a little bit, can you ?

Remember this sentence:
"A fool and his money are soon parted".
You foolishly let the yoruba steal your heritage while believing you are the smart one. You make me think of this Andrew in the story below:

Kevin had no money and Andrew was rich, so Kevin went to Andrew and said "Andrew all your money belongs to me, give it to me", Andrew replied "no you are a liar, only half of my money belongs to you, I will give you only half". Andrew thought he was being smart and he was happy that he was able to keep half of his original wealth, while Kevin had actually gained half of Andrew's wealth without doing any work for it.

Having a lazy brain is the worse curse of all. I can't articulate how disappointed I am in you, what a disgrace, after I spent years spreading education on nairaland... What a pity.

Dude, I ignored your previous rant. I am not your student. Please stay on your lane. Where exactly do you teach? I am happy to invite you to where I do my work. Mentoring the very brightest minds of their generation.

First go and undo what Oba Ewuare II said about Oranmiyan at his coronation and remove Oranmiyan from The Red Book. Then come back and argue. Have you written your own book on the topic yet? Do so and dismiss everything the palace has said on Oranmiyan and present it to the palace.

Write whatever you know and leave it at that. Don't seek to monopolise knowledge. You are too small to even attempt that. NEVER quote me again.

Thank you.

Ghostagain:

Areafada, your brain is lazy. I've tried to give you respect in the past, but I can only notice your inability to learn.
Once again, oduduwa never existed, it is just a made up story, a fairytale.
Why didn't you learn after all I posted in front of your eyes ?
You are not a kid! just stop living in fairytales!
You've seen precolonial maps and texts, you ignored those and chose to dwell on stories?
Those stories were made to take Benin's prestige away from Benin and give them to the oni of Ife, but your brain doesn't comprehend this ! The oni is nothing but a village priest, and thanks to intellectually lazy people like you, he is parading himself as an emperor in 2024, a year in which education is cheap.
You just can't rise your iq up a little bit, can you ?

Remember this sentence:
"A fool and his money are soon parted".
You foolishly let the yoruba steal your heritage while believing you are the smart one. You make me think of this Andrew in the story below:

Kevin had no money and Andrew was rich, so Kevin went to Andrew and said "Andrew all your money belongs to me, give it to me", Andrew replied "no you are a liar, only half of my money belongs to you, I will give you only half". Andrew thought he was being smart and he was happy that he was able to keep half of his original wealth, while Kevin had actually gained half of Andrew's wealth without doing any work for it.

Having a lazy brain is the worse curse of all. I can't articulate how disappointed I am in you, what a disgrace, after I spent years spreading education on nairaland... What a pity.

.

Ykc2:
What is meaning of osemawe in yoruba?

In Edo, some people say it's Osemwunghe. Basically meaning "worth looking at, stunning or worth bewandering".

Maybe Ondo folks can enlighten us.

DatNaijaGuy:
I wish same thing will be done in Benin City, Edo State. Every demonic trade union should be dismantled. That's where they come into agreement to exploit the people.
You can't sell common pepper and crayfish without being in their evil union.

Form a group, do your research on how it affects prices and how it will reduce prices in practice if dismantled. Then take it to the palace.

We know a lot of women get into debt paying fees and buying aso-ebi to attend burials and other functions forced on them by membership.

Yep, we were discussing this in one of NL threads a couple of years ago.

Oba Osemwende (born Prince Erediauwa) was a phenomenal Oba. Lagos remained under Benin hegemony until his exit in 1848. Sacking of Akure and punishment of rebellious Deji Arankale in 1818 was also under his reign.

Of course, these days, USA and Argentina like to claim recognising Brazil first, but Brazilian govt is adamant that Benin Empire did so first.

Konquest:

Thanks for the feedback @Areafada2

What's the name of the Eastern Yoruba town you're referring to here? Sure, as an adult who is NOT averse to detailed investigations, I can take my research away from there.

Perhaps you can shrink the picture before attaching it here or give me the link to see the picture.

All the best.

You see lots of tribal people arguing online, most do not know their genealogy beyond their great grandfather. If they did, they would find out that they have very mixed backgrounds.

Take Nnamdi Azikiwe as an example. He wrote in 1970 in his book "My Genealogy and Nativity" that he was the son of Chukwuemeka, son of Azikiwe, son of Molokwu, son of Onira, son of Dei, son of Ezechima.

Ezechima or Chima or Chime was the man we called Ikhimwin in Benin. Zik said his clan in Onitsha felt much superior to other clans because they were bona fide Benin princes of blood. He knew his descent because of his noble lineage. He also listed other places founded by Ezechima as Isseleku, Aboh, Onicha-Olona, Onicha-Ugbo, etc.

Infect, in Benin, we consider Isseluku as the head of all Ezechima clans. This was even confirmed by the Obi of Isseluku in 1982 in his visit to Benin.

Remember Zik was born in 1904 and by around 1912 to 1913, before one 9ja was created, he probably heard all this story from his folks. Especially his grandmother as he said. Back then, people were still closer to their origins and tribal nationalism was not yet a big deal. British divide and rule after 1914 worsened things gradually.

Most people are commoners and have little in their family to warrant their lineage story to be told. This is not to be condescending but stating the fact. Some of those who do not know their genealogy find succour in tribalism.

I met a guy abroad over 20 years ago. We got chatting. I soon found out his mother was a Benin princess. He was a regular at Benin palace when visiting 9ja. Both his first name and surname were from a Nigerian tribe that is not Edo or even from South-South. He told me things about the palace I know to be true. 100 years from now, they might argue that person's children have no links with Benin.

Gregyboy
Automaticmotors
samuk
Babasolution

@Konquest, I don't have a link to pics and I did try to shrink by over 200%
Showing more would be basically identifying oneself fully on an anonymous forum.

Konquest:

Thanks for the feedback @Areafada2

What's the name of the Eastern Yoruba town you're referring to here? Sure, as an adult who is NOT averse to detailed investigations, I can take my research away from there.

Perhaps you can shrink the picture before attaching it here or give me the link to see the picture.

All the best.

You see lots of tribal people arguing online, most do not know their genealogy beyond the great grandfather. If they did, they would find out that hey have very mixed backgrounds.

Take Nnamdi Azikiwe as an example. He wrote in 1970 in his book "My Genealogy and Nativity" that he was the son of Chukwuemeka, son of Azikiwe, son of Molokwu, son of Onirisi, son of Dei, son of Ezechima.

Ezechima or Chima or Chime was the man we called Ikhimwin in Benin. Zik said his clan in Onitsha felt much superior to other clans because they were bona fide Benin princes of blood. He knew his descent because of his noble lineage. He also listed other places found by Ezechima as Isseleku, Aboh, Onicha-Olona, Onicha-Ugbo, etc.

Infect, in Benin, we consider Isseluku as the head of all Ezechima clans. This was even confirmed by the Obi of Isseluku in 1982 in his visit to Benin.

Most people are commoners and have little in their family to warrant their lineage story to be told. This is not to be condescending but stating the fact. Some of those who do not know their genealogy find succour in tribalism.

A met a guy abroad over 20 years ago. We got chatting. I soon found out his mother was a Benin princess. He was a regular at Benin palace when visiting 9ja. Both his first name and surname were from a Nigerian tribe that is not Edo or even from South-South. He told me things about the palace I know to be true. 100 years from now, they might argue that person's children have no links with Benin.

frankblinkz:
At this Junction, Yahaya Bello can't Escape this.

How a Governor turned fugitive.
EFCC chairman threatens to resign and lawyers are protesting to have him appear in court.

Sorry Yahaya, watch your trusted allies disappointing you.

Nollywood will drop this banger soon. Aki & Pawpaw will act Bello and Ododo.

GanagiBitrus:

Without Demand, there would be no Supply.

Well done, na acada you be.
Nigerian "Adam Smith"
Where you dey na im 9ja economy dey suffer.

We need to know the worth/value of olosho parole to 9ja economy.

Konquest:

Thanks for the feedback @Areafada2

What's the name of the Eastern Yoruba town you're referring to here? Sure, as an adult who is NOT averse to detailed investigations, I can take my research away from there.

Perhaps you can shrink the picture before attaching it here or give me the link to see the picture.

All the best.

Message me

Konquest:

@AreaFada2, how's it going?

What's the name of the book on the Ogiamien lineage that you stated here? I would like to read it and gain more insights.

Second, I agree that a near-absolute and consistent version of the Ile Ife/Benin linkages are needed to avoid regurgitations of amateurish-sounding stories.

It's interesting you say you have a stake in the Oduduwa link through a different Yoruba dynasty... Are you saying here you are a Bini-Edo with a Yoruba dynasty linkage or what.

Also, I saw where you said there are towns that were founded by Edos in eastern Yorubaland but I can't think of any tbh, but you can LIST them here. I do know that the already existing towns of Akure, Ikere-Ekiti, Ado-Ekiti, Owo, Ido Ani, had some Bini immigrant influences centuries back and some kingship tussles exist in a place like Ikere-Ekiti where you have 2 kings with one being of Ikere-Ekiti aborigene descent and the other Oba who came much later from Benin.

I also read a historical account in a news article from the Oba of Ido Ani in Ondo State who is a retired Army General that Oranmiyan's cousin who followed him from Ife to Benin centuries ago, left Benin afterwards and settled in Ido Ani (the maternal hometown of the iconic former UPN Governor of the defunct Bendel State, Professor Ambrose Folorunso Alli's mother) which already existed.

I've been an absolute lover of genealogical, ancestral DNA testings, and world history for decades now, so, I'd like you to expand a little more on what you mean in especially your last paragraph.

Here is a picture of the original regalia of the Oba of one of the places founded by Edo people in Eastern Yorubaland. The very oldest quarter of this Kingdom was settled by Benin/Edo people. And later Edo people. In recent decades, as has become trendy, they have now said one of the quarters was later settled in by people from Ife. Do a bit of homework on it. That is how to truly learn.

Sorry, pic too big.

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Konquest:

Even some 9ja people with inferiority complex and tribalistic bigotry will still dispute what they see here.

If not that Benin Republic was called Dahomey back then, they would prefer to say it was around Porto Novo and was part of Oyo Empire. Others will say Mary Evans never existed.

Gregyboy
samuk
Automaticmotors
Babasolution

aswani:


Peter Obi is a member of this useless political class we have ruling us.

Sowore was on the ballot box, much younger than Peter Obi and not a member of the incompetent political class, why didnt he get voted in if people wanted young?

Peter Obi parachuted himself into a left leaning political party from a right leaning one and immediately picked up their Presidential nomination, where is the principle there?

I personally want a clear out of anyone that has held an elective position in the past 20 years. Let new blood come in. Going by voting patterns outside of SE in the last Presidential elections, it is clear people are not voting by tribal affiliations again.

Remember the word "sophisticated ". Sowore had been on the ballot before and didn't do well. The sophisticated voters knew he could not get anywhere near the spread to win. Obi had a better chance and was lesser of a dinosaur than Atiku and Tinubu.

And their vote has jolted the establishment. They will take the youth for granted at their own peril.

Historically student protests were always led by Unilag, Uniben, Ife and UI. Others will get to that level of youth sophistication one day.
Then votes will truly count and maybe the likes of Sowore will actually be able to win.

aswani:


When Biafra invaded Benin City, the soldiers mistreated the natives. Even Ndigbo that have lived in Benin before the war suddenly started growing wings.

Their readiness to report the locals to Biafran patrols, for example a landlord asking for rent mobey, resulted in summary execution.

Google Nowa Omoigui, may ẹ pa continue to rest in peace, to see more examples of how Benin City suffered under illegal Biafran of occupation.

You and Ojukwu can save your silly greeting.

Obv'Edo carried Obidient for head for your fellow tribesman to be President and look at the nonsense you are spewing here.

Like I told some of them then, some Ndigbo would make you seriously regret all this gra gra you are doing for Peter Obi. Here is another example.

Edo like Lagos and Abuja, has a very sophisticated electorate. Many young, educated voters. Let's be honest, we are tired of old people ruling a country of mostly young vibrant people. Tinubu 8 years earlier would have won around 12 to 15 million votes. Nobody would doubt his ability as a younger version. Osinbajo, despite being tainted by failed Buhari regime, would still have won massively in 2023, including Edo.

You fail to see why young educated people wanted Obi. It had nothing to do with tribe in places outside SE.

Ologbo147:
Illiterate, those seven local government covers over 55% of the landmass of Edo state called Edo south. It is about 10,700km square and the landmass of Bini speaking communities out of it is about 8653kmsquare. The remaining 2,100km square comprise of Igbanke which is about 170kmsquare. Then Ijaw villages,Ajoki etc.

Now tell me how many states are more than 8653 km square. From my knowledge,

1. Bini’s territory in Edo state is bigger than all the individual state in the south east
2. It is larger than Ekiti state by landmass. Ekiti state is about 6000 km square.
3. It is also about the same size with Osun that is about 9,000km square
4. It is also larger than Akwa Ibom by landmass. Akwa Ibom is not up to 8,000 km square.
So it is in no way tiny

Edo and Delta = Bendel is slightly bigger than all South East States together even.

Benin is even ripe to be a stand alone state with Afemesan as another Edoid State.

Honestey:
The reason is simple, women don't love men naturally. A man would see a lady and be like, wow! she is beautiful, I like her movement, see her back front etc (Things that are natural about her) but a woman would be like wow! He is working at NNPC, he has car, he get plenty money etc (Things that are worldly about him). And because they are never going to be responsible for a child that is not theirs, whether ba$tard or not a child is legitimate to his/her mother. In fact many of them cry about getting married when they became tired of abortion, through marriage at least they get someone to hang it on his poor neck, such animalistic behaviour and until the law is established to make it a crime to get pregnant for another man after marriage, this prolification of ba$tards will continue in our society.

God bless you.

Women want a guy to help them raise a child and provide physical and material security.
It is men who choose the babe they go for and propose to.

Women can only marry the guy who is available. Most times, girls never get the type of guy they would have truly liked. But matter of "how I for do?"

Since 99% can't get the guy they want anyway, why not scope out the one that has material wealth and perhaps a big d!ckus?

So, loyalty/fidelity was never gonna be there.

In some cultures like Edoid people, our ancestors recognised that and came up with taboos to control married women to be faithful.

This needs a lot more research.

Konquest:


Read the article below to get a hang of the real historical FACTS from the Ogiame family indicating that the Oba of Benin's Royal lineages is of direct Yoruba descent:


=>https://guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/


Second, the current Ooni of Ife granted an interview to Saturday Punch in 2022 and he CLEARLY stated that there were 2 other ruling dynasties with kings in Ife before the rise of the 3rd dynasty called the Oduduwa dynasty. Oduduwa came from the Oke Oranfe area and was Yoruba. The mythology in Ile-Ife or Yoruba historical events should not be taken as literal history but are symbolic just like you see in different cultures and religions around the world that tell stories in metaphors, so, these metaphors have to be decoded to convey a message.

There were people inhabiting what is now Ife today even before the rise of the Oduduwa dynasty according to the current Ooni of Ife.

So, a matrilineal guy (with a bit of money) from Ogiamien family and with the recognised Chief Ogiamien missing for years now tells a story and that is your plausible version of history? First ask them to present the young man installed as chief Ogiamien to come and tell his family history. There is a full book on Ogiamien in Benin. Go and read it in full, not this online nonsense you see.

My point is that there are too many versions of Oduduwa. The Ooni can say anything just like anybody else but we need a consistent version. I have a stake in it. I have a direct Oduduwa link through a different Yoruba dynasty.

I will follow this thread closely.

Especially the Messiah and dual Oduduwa angle.

Gregyboy
Automaticmotors
samuk
Babasolution

Riskymarvelous:
Hmm...I see dis albino winning next governorship election

Not albino. He has vitiligo. The same skin condition Michael Jackson had.

Karlifate:


...and ladies should continue to see guys as disposable utilities, not as brothers & male cousins

LMAO! 🤣🤣

Men largely control resource base. If men see women as relatives first, sex won't be immediate interest. Maybe genuine friendship and more could follow.

But of course, some women just want money the easy way and nothing anybody can do about it. However, we have created a culture in which a woman surrenders her body (be it as so called dating, hook-up or whatever) to get benefits from a guy.

That is what has shaped the mentality of some ladies here on NL that broke-shame men. As if women have been forbidden to earn own money.

We can all do better than that. There is a need for a better re-orientation of both genders.

BigYash:
Over 95% of nowadays girls will do same.. Most of them came for the money.. When you hear them saying they need a man that can take care of them,they are literally saying they need a man who has money they can waste..

Wasters some persons refer to as wives..

Before nko? We already know that.

That is why guys who make money trade up babes to step up a level or two. Because most girls would do same in your position.

The jungle don mature tey tey.

Very sad story.

She wouldn't have done it if life had dealt her a better hand growing up.

She has basically sacrificed herself for her family and comfort in life.

She will have lots of regrets later in life.

May she find peace and succour.

Guys should see girls first of all as sisters and cousins before anything else.

Great! Do Nigeria proud while at it.

AutomaticMotor
Gregyboy
samuk