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Ojagun:I wonder o. One feminist wannabe on NL is blaming men for brainwashing women to gather bombom and Michelin man weight. So, women are robots who can't decide on their own? So, who brainwashed men to do all kinds of atrocities in order not to be broke-shamed? This reverse logic won't cross her mind. Nobody brainwashed grown-ass adults into anything, whatever the gender. |
GanagiBitrus:That's 1 shilling and 6 pence. Before we began using Naira and before decimals began. 1 shilling was 12 pence. 20 shillings were equal to 1 Nigerian £. |
Na wa o. |
A thread like this makes you realise how tribalistic even some fairly young Nigerians are. And how little some know about history and how Nigerian tribes have interacted over the centuries. I grew up with close contacts with Isoko, Urhobo, Itsekiri and other South-South/Southern tribes. My Edo grandmother passed away in the 1970s. She cooked very sumptuous Owo soup. The ingredients used depended on the season. There were times when mushrooms were used, tomato, banga, a combination, etc. Different people have a preferred version of it, meaning Owo evolved through many phases. The Owo my late grandmother cooked is quite different from Owo of nowadays. Also in the 70s, I saw Delta people cook their Ohwo. There is no original or fake Owo. Just different versions. The one you know may be the popular one in your area. There is even a version of Owo soup in Edo that is cooked totally cold without fire. You won't know it was not cooked on fire when you taste it. Fish and akaun were a constant in the different varieties I saw people cook back then. Some are even saying it's Ohwo, not Owo. Such people know nothing about the philology of the words in their languages. And many are parochial and not that travelled. |
Novice1:To some extent, it's the policy. Census never used to capture the race of French citizens. You were either French or not French/foreign national. The idea was to not discriminate French citizens based on colour. I guess that hasn't changed. Anyone born in a French oversea territory in the Pacific, Caribbean, near Canada and Indian Ocean near Africa are full French Citizens. E.g. Reunion, Martinique, Guadalupe, St Pierre & Miquelon, etc. Whereas, UK dependencies have "British Passports" without right of Abode in UK. A second or even third class British passport. The state is separate from church. Religious symbols are not allowed in government offices. Including crosses. But some people wrongly think it's because they are immigrants or due to race. Of course, as human beings, nobody is colour-blind. |
43Ronin:I shudder when I see Africans support Argentina or Messi. A lot of Europeans support Argentina because of its "whiteness." Our black people being mostly allergic to reading except to have degree certificate bragging rights, know little about Argentina. Argentina used to be one of the blackest countries in South America. But they systematically whitewashed it with mass migration of Europeans and even fascist Italians later. With deliberate racist policies, diseases, etc. Black men died en masse in Argentinian Independence and other wars. Even their tango dance is black. Today, you see no whites in their football team, and many wrongly believe there were never blacks there. That's what Argentina wants people to believe. Guess why only Argentina, Israel and the USA voted against Ghana's motion at the UN to declare the slave trade a crime against humanity? Because Argentina has one of the worst records of most appallingly treating blacks. Many of those who funded the slave trade were Jews (even though the State of Israel didn't exist then), and we all know how badly the USA treated black people/slaves. Maybe Yamal and Williams in the Spain team are white, in the former PM's opinion. |
Stephen0mozzy:Correction. The conquered territory call the South. That is how the Hausa-Fulani elite see it. |
Princedapace:The South can't fight a common cause due to tribalism and religion. And the North knows it very well. But the mess might consume everyone someday. No hiding place. |
Satazaa:Thanks. Let's just say I do enjoy learning and teaching. |
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SirChiboy, I generally have no time for platitudes, but listen. You are extremely wealthy in experience. Both good and bad. It puts you ahead of most of peers in terms of resilience. Now, how do you harness all that to your benefit? That is the key thing for you. For now, take good care of yourself. Don't mortgage your happiness or progress to others. In real life, everyone is OYO. But still be cautiously open to good ideas from others. Then, start investing for your future. No matter how little, but be consistent. 15 to 20 years from now you will be happy you did. Run your own race. |
peacenow:Ah ah. Edakun, Hanty, nor break the code na. The world needs a salt of the earth like the babe. ![]() This babe might be the one sent to rescue the player. |
OlaOfLagos:The lady nor too smart like that. She should have said " Oga abeg pay me the 250k accumulated cleaning fees now. I have an urgent app loan to pay before midnight." ![]() So that at least her cleaning services will not be for free. Funny thing is women like players like that dude. |
Rapmoney:OK. Relationships are now like amoeba. ![]() |
Samantha125:OK, and all those that bear Ibrahim, Yusuf, Isah, Mustafa, Dauda, Suleiman, Habiba, Zainab, and Arab names should also go look for the native Hausa, Fulbe, Tiv, Gbagyi names to reclaim? ![]() How well did Mobutu govern Zaire? Was it native French names that made him build a private airport for French Champagne delivery by Concorde landing in his Gbadolite jungle hometown? He left Zaire/DRC in ruins and war is raging there till date. Mobutu is a name that epitomises the worst kind of excesses, political rascality and dictatorship in Africa. Hardly a dude to use as a compass. |
Samantha125:Kudos to the ladies. The surnames being Western may be a coincidence. Many Southerners have Western names for various reasons. Like the Brazilians and Sierra Leoneans/Saros/Creoles of Lagos. Remember people like Femi Pedro, Pinheiro, Ajayi Crowther, Mobolaji Johnson, Adeniyi Jones, Herbert Macaulay, Da Costa, etc. Even Gomez is a popular Lagos family. In fact, many changed their surnames to Yoruba over time, otherwise there would be more Western names. You may remember the royal branch of the Owa Obokun, the Haastrup, currently the Oba of Ijesha in Osun State. The history from prince to slave to Oba is quite well-known. Haastrup upon return from slavery established a large kola nut farm in a part of Lagos to become known as Igbobi. You have the Orthopaedic Hospital there today. In Igbo land, due to Catholicism, many people are named after saints, popes, doctors of the church, etc. Like Anacletus/Cletus, Boniface, Gregory, Benedict, Innocent, John, Clement, etc. In Niger Delta, Europeans wrote down native names the way it would be easy for them to pronounce or relate to. A name like Horsfall. If a local ruler was under another king, they wrote down his name as Duke, being a ruler lesser than a king. With baptism, people got fancy English names too. Soon, local traditional names were being given in English equivalent like Fineface, Strongbone, Godsgift, Government, Company, Manager, Wiseman (like a king's or duke's adviser), Soldier, Happy, Patience, Warrior, etc. Imagine writing Akin, Balogun, Akogun and others in English. Even Oba Dosunmu in Lagos was written as Docemo in the British-Lagos agreement ceding Lagos to Queen Victoria in mid-19th century. There is Docemo Street in Lagos till today. Rhodes-Vivour came under focus due to politics in recent years. Our interactions with Europeans have left lasting marks on us, including family history and names. |
lawani:Do you know that Benin was virtually destroyed in 1897 by the British? What do you think happens to the population of a city burnt down? Do you know the waves of people who left Benin over the centuries? Some are today's Degema, Igede and other people far from Benin. I can also take you to Kabiyesis in Ondo state who proudly say they are from Benin. From 1897 to 1960 was barely 63 years. The monarchy was only restored in 1914. You have stylishly avoided the challenge I threw down. Only to be speculating about things you cannot prove. You immediately assume that Benin was ruling Owo from 1600. You don't even know the history of Owo. ![]() Owo was founded in 1019 AD. Our fathers reigned from that time until today. The reason I mentioned 1600 is that the evidence of that ruler is attested in Owo and Benin because he was of mixed Owo and Benin heritage. And grew up in Benin. So, don't do wild Orunmila speculation about Owo. Don't pollute the history. We are talking of documented history. Fact is anyone can claim to have existed for 1 million years, but what evidence are there? Cite existing letters written before 1516 in Nigeria/West Africa. In Ifa corpus, we know what it says about Owo. Benin has had 40 Obas from 1170 Oba era, but dozens of Ogisos before that. Ibadan founded in 1820s has had well over 40 Obas (if you include the Ba'ales as they were called before 1925). Owo founded in 1019 has had 33. So, how does the number of Obas exactly show the age of a kingdom? You forgot the manner of king selection and other factors, such as in some lands, Obas being frequently deposed or eliminated as Bashorun Gaa did to Alaafin Labisi, Awonbioju, Agboluaje, Majeogbe, and nearly did to Abiodun within barely 24 years. Your historical knowledge is pretty limited. You see everything from a tribalistic viewpoint. I would be quite happy if scientists can prove that the original Garden of Eden was in Ejigbo, Efon-Alaye, Okrika, Abudu, Aguleri or Kaura Namoda, as long as it is correct. But for you, the truth is irrelevant, unless it is within SW. ![]() It shows you are not a scientific mind, whatever your education. Science seeks to corroborate with evidence. I have offered you a concrete opportunity to see history in action, but like a typical online warrior, you have dodged it. At least let the intense tribalism in you move you to want to see the Kabiyesis in Ondo who say they are from Benin. And ask why they say so. |
lawani:At no point did any independent record show any Yoruba town as bigger than Benin in the 15th or 16th century. The Portuguese came to Benin in 1472 and in 1485. The English were in Benin in 1553 and called it a city. Hence Benin-City. It wasn't just made up. The Dutch were there by 1668. Although Britain relied later mostly on indirect trade with Benin, they had visited by 1553. The French Barbot brothers were certainly in Benin by 1678 by their own accounts. The Portuguese accompanied Benin warriors to Idah War in 1516. The Portuguese letter written in Benin in 1516 describing the War still exist. The oldest existing letter written in modern day Nigeria. I also know which year Owa Obokun went to Benin to seek help. It would be good to know of independent account of the size of Oyo Ile, Ileha, Ife, Ede, Osogbo, Ogbomoso, etc. You seem to forget how the fall of Oyo and its towns made other Yoruba towns to swell with refugees. The nascent Ibadan is a good example. I was not in Ilesha, but my people ruling Owo from 1600 AD. At this point, fix a date later in the year for me to take you to Owo and check with the current kabiyesi, chiefs and local historians by yourself. This should settle it. To reciprocate, fix a date for us to meet the head of your family to tell us about the land you come from and its history. We will document the visits here on NL for others to learn from. If you can't follow this up, you are not serious. It is one thing to blindly argue online, it's another to have the balls to prove it on the ground. It won't be good enough for you to just insult, dismiss and run away. I first told you to read my old posts here on NL. With all humility, as for profs, my extended family ranks amongst those with the highest number of lawyers, high court judges, doctors, accountants, engineers and professors in SW and 9ja as a whole. So, don't mention education stuff in Okunland at all. Not everyone who seeks to be objective is Igbo or anti-Yoruba. Thank you. |
lawani:Your problem is if anyone has a neutral opinion, you feel he must be against Yoruba. The British called Benin a city in 1553. Perhaps only Kano had such civilisation at the time. We all know how the fall of Oyo created new centres like Ibadan, less than 200 years ago. Fact is, Lagos being Federal Capital brought far more people into the area. You need to let tribal blinders fall from your eyes. Without free education of Action Group, SW would be less educated. No doubt. Sure, it benefited also Midwest (now Edo and Delta) before 1963 and many others who came to live in Western Region. Four your information, read my posts from the last 10 years plus here on NL, to see my connection with SW. Sadly, anyone who doesn't do herd mentality is insulted by many SW people. We see it today with how people insult Rufai Oseni, Sowore, even Afenifere members for having their own views. Some SW people should learn to better respect plurality of opinions. It's a hallmark of genuine sophistication. |
lawani:Very poor of you to call someone you don't know foolish. It reflects badly on you. Anyhow, your arguments seem to be about Lagos being Yoruba or not Yoruba. You could not hide your tribalistic bent. My point is that any city that has been a Federal Capital or is one and is a commercial centre will have a high level of non-indigenes. You suddenly aver that Edo is more cosmopolitan than Lagos. Yes, it was, even before Lagos existed. But it was never a Federal capital, so Lagos later came to have more settlers. From Sierra Leoneans, slave returnees to other Nigerians since amalgamation. DNA matter is your fabrication and inference. Fact is, the advantage from Pa Awo/Pa Ajasin free education policy days does not really apply these days in SW. Be reminded that that policy did not apply to Lagos, as Lagos was politically separate from Western Region in the First Republic, in the Lyttleton Constitution. |
lawani:What you seem to forget is that Lagos is an outlier, and by extension, people who live in parts of Ogun but actually work in Lagos or are Lagos-orientated due to geographical contiguity. Lagos trend do not mostly align with the broader SW. Even 2023 presidential election result showed it. Lagos skews SW results. Remove Lagos and Ogun, and SW HDI would be much lower. Edo for example has only a moderate Federal allocation but very decent IGR, despite little FG presence or multinationals HQs to pay local taxes. Aside Oyo and Lagos States, you cannot call Edo, Anambra or Imo small population states with high allocation. For many years now, alongside Delta, these states have been consistently doing very well when WAEC and Jamb results are released. Even these states have some of the highest Unity School entry score requirements nationwide. They are already considered educationally advantaged. The foundation for such performances are laid from primary to Junior Secondary level, around age 5 to 14. Bayelsa, Delta and AK have probably some of the highest FG allocation, but are not runaway performers in terms of education and HDI. Funny that you pulled out HDI that you claim favour SW and believe it, but you don't believe the education statistics as it favours others. ![]() Or you suddenly claim to know the only reason for the education performance. As the professor of Human Development and Education that you are, abi? |
Evilthoughts:They will pay. They shouldn't remit money to SA before they have paid up. |
Fiscus105:Balogun was born in the US by sheer chance. His parents visited US from their UK base. His mum was pregnant with him. When it was time to return to UK, the airline refused her because her pregnancy was too advanced. So, Folarin was born in US. Although he grew up in UK. He could have played for 9ja or England too. Yet, until the US Supreme Court overruled Trump's executive order a few days ago, the likes of Balogun wouldn't be qualified to be US citizens anymore. |
Nairalander248:Toh! As part of corporate social responsibility, let MTN pay $500m dollars into a compensation fund. Although all could end up in the pockets of the cabals that set up Investment Promotion Council with office in the Federal Secretariat, which they claim does not exist. |
engagingworld:You can't eat your cake and have it. 9ja women get to realise that only 9ja men can tolerate their attitude. But the provider nature of 9ja men make them attractive to women from other countries. 9ja men only still try to look for 9ja women for cultural reasons. He might be the first son, only son or other reasons and wants his kids to be familiar with 9ja culture. If not, most 9ja would go totally foreign. |
Sonnobax15:Let's just say No true love anywhere. If the woman in 9ja truly loves you, let her stay in 9ja and have the kids there. But each time you visit, ensure she does a gamut of STI test before you dive in. Then do DNA test on each child within 3 months of birth. While she's in 9ja, do detective work on her. 90% will fail it anyway. No loyalty anywhere. Nobody deserves to be trusted just like that. After the last kid is about 11 years, like secondary school age, bring her and the kids abroad. If she won't agree, let her go. Bringing a nubile girl who invariably does not love you abroad at first glance is at your own risk. |
ednut1:But a sample of 200 Yoruba and 200 Edo kids in similar socio-economic circumstances, should be broadly representative. Irrespective of overall population of each ethnicity. You can compare health indices, poverty, GNI per capita and others in tiny Andora or Monaco to massive India or China. There are reliable statistical tools to use. However, if you were to sample a mix of Ekiti and Ondo state kids, it would be quite close to Edo/Igbo figure. I know this because I know both areas (Edo and Ondo) very well from experience. Many of us knew this decades ago. But politics and tribalism muddy everything in 9ja. By the way, Edo is about 5.25 to 6 million. |
brain54:You think a local lawyer there wanted to really help her? 9ja nor know how far. Our neighbours in Africa don't like us so much like that. Na we dey mumu form big brother. 9ja need to wise up, get serious and sort ourselves for once. |
Thewrath:True. Perhaps 95% of women never get to marry who they would have liked to marry. They married the guy who toasted them as time was running out. Or married for security to have a provider. Men should not fool themselves. Women can pretend very well. Once she now earns enough money, the need for a provider is not there anymore. If the last child is up to 10 years old, the need for the man becomes even less. He can be kicked out for flimsy reasons. Later, their sister's, friend's or neighbour's husband or a male work colleague could be their real spec. So, cheating becomes possible. Time to sample other men. How can a prolific sampler respect the man at home? |
Good thread. The type of topic to educate the masses. |
Our good friend, Adolf, made it to number 7. ![]() I nor see Mandela or Obama in the list, abi I needed glasses now? No Emperor Haile Selassie, no Pharoah Djoser, no King/Pharoah Tutankhamun, no Pharoah Ramses II, no Imhotep. Ok o. Folks, in this world, just be known for one thing, good or bad. In the future, when a local poll on popularity is done in Nigeria, Oyenusi, Anini and Sanni Abacha may rank higher than Otedola, Majek Fashek, or late President Yar'Adua. |
saddler:Yeah, it's relatively rare compared to prostate, colorectal, lung, liver cancer, etc. But is often deadly. It spreads easily. So, it's usually caught too late. We lost a relative to it many years back. She was under 40 years old sef. RIP to Johnny. |



