₦airaland Forum

Hati13:
It's rather you who is ignorant.

Black Americans have white DNA in them, but are they considered Europeans? No, they aren't.
We have South Yemen DNA in us, by majority percentage of our DNA is Cushitic. So we are Cushitic or "Cushitic/Arab" if that makes you happy.

Don't compromise your position man. Ethiopians, even the Semetic speaking Ethiopians are Cushitic like the rest of the horn Africans from Kenya to Sudan.

The admixture in our tribes is not recent. It occurred around 10,000 years ago so the admixture predates the Arabic speaking people. They can keep their ignorant views to themselves.

People are just stupid to assume that because of our close proximity to the Arabian peninsula, that we are Arab bastardd children who invaded Africa. It's one of the things that annoys the life out of me when interacting with other Africans. It's like we have to prove our African-ness to them and they have the right to judge who's African enough and who's not.

To the ignorant people ruining the thread, go read a damn book for once in your lives!

NairobiWalker:
Actually Hass petroleum has minority shares in the building mostly because they provided the land on which the building is being built. Majority shares are owned by White Lotus and Jabavu Limited.

That's beside the point I was trying to make, but still the towers carry the name - Hass Towers and isn't Jabavu Village a subsidiary of Hass petroleum? Mahat Noor of Jabavu Village is certainly Somali.

nNEOo:
am sick all right?...
my brothers(NA) are getting shot @ everyday sent by these politicians,i can't answer the rest of ur quotes cause I don't speak that your DEMONIC language.
like i said earlier NICE

Do you see the world through a tunnel vision? Granted that pain is relative, but you must be a shitty human being for saying that his death is 'nice'. I don't know where NA is or the politicians you're on about.

P. S. The last bit wasn't for you.

nNEOo:
this is nice

Sick bastardd! I'd like to see your reaction if that was your brother or son who got shot.

To the highest of heavens Abbas Siraji. Shanta Somaliyed wept for you

Monaco is using a feather trying to knock down the Juve wall lol

Hati13:
No, I'm not. I'm Amhara, born and raised in Addis. If you know Addis very well, my home is in Bola town.

If he was born in Dire Dawa, then, I think, he should be called Djibouti-Ethiopian, rather than Djibouti-Somalian you saying.

If I ask, what is the difference between Somalians and Djiboutians people?

I know Bole Mikael. Is that the same place as Bola Town?

His ethnicity is Somali thus making him a Djiboutian national of Somali descent. It's the same way that the Oromo people that are born in Somalia are Somali Oromo.

I'd like to think of Djibouti as a melting pot in the horn of Africa. You've got native Afar people who stretch into Eritrea and Ethiopia, they make up around 35% of the population and then you have the Somalis who make up 60% of the population. The remaining 5% are Amhara, Arab, French and Indian.

The difference between Somalis from Somalia and Djiboutian Somalis is probably the dialect and clan family, although the Djiboutian Somali clan also lives in Ethiopia and Somalia.

Hati13:
The Djibouti president usually visit Ethiopia and his resting place is around my home.

Ismail O. Guelleh is from the Issa clan and was born Dire Dawa which makes him Ethiopian Somali by birth.

Are you from Dire by any chance?

PissedYagami:
Nah I aint Kikuyu. Plus as long as Kenya is developing I really dont care who does it. Was just stating some things that annoy me about you guys. There was one here a couple of pages back.

I'm guessing it's that infamous troll. I haven't been fully active on NL in 2 years and I still remember his stupid threads. People took the bait every single time and he always succeeded in making them angry, even me sometimes.

PissedYagami:
Got nothing against Somalis but a huge chuck of you guys, especially from Somalia talk a lot of shit. Like that tower I am sure when its done you are never gonna hear the end of it. Kikuyus own a huge chunk but you never hear them say how much they own Kenya. Kenyan Asians are far more successful than Somalis and you dont see them yapping around. But Somalis however, especially those ones from Somalia and have never set foot in Kenya talk too much. Some of them disgust me mate

Mate, calm down. Nobody here is comparing Kikuyus and Somalis. I wasn't even addressing you to begin with, as I've already stated I was replying to someone who was belittling my people.

Kenyanstar:
You are really hard to get very basic things, i guess its due to the hard headed nature of Nigerians and just being slow. Somali is a race, while Somalia is a country, a Somalian is a Somilia national citizen. The same way there is a Kenyan Oromo and an Ethiopian Oromo national. Hass towers is owned by a Kenyan Somali not a Somalian citizen

As a son of a Djiboutian Somali and a Somali from Somalia, I know that being Somali doesn't automatically mean that you're from Somalia. I'm not disputing that the owners are Somali at all, I was reaffirming it. The comment was in reference to the poster who said there are no significant companies in Kenya apart from First Community Bank.

PissedYagami:
Kikuyus are by far more successful than Somalis in terms of business here in Kenya. And for the record those Somalis are Kenyans not from Somalia mate. Here is the map of Kenyan tribes. The green area, that is somali region of Kenya, oh and Hati13 and Ednite, the single biggest Ethiopian tribe, the Oromo also occupies a huge area in Kenya.
Tl;dr. Somalis in Kenya are native, not foreigners and those small names in the green region are Somali clans.

Nobody is disputing the business acumen of the Kikuyu mate. Read the comment I quoted and my comment then you'll see where I'm coming from.

Btw I know of the ethnic territories in Kenya. I've been to the NEP, Nairobi and a few other cities.

uzzyfire:
are u Somali

100%

fanficgirl:
. What's the name of the Somali owners?

Two brothers founded Hass Petroleum, Abdirizak Ali Hassan and Abdinasir Ali Hassan. The name of the company is basically a short version of their grandfather's name - Hassan. The current CEO is also a Somali called Issa Sheikh Mohamed.

Hati13:
Yes, Abyssinia defeated Adal in 1543, with the help of Portugal, but Adal also defeated Abyssinia from 1529-31 and conquered it from 1531-43, with the help of Ottoman Turks.

I agree with you one your points. People have negative attitude towards Somalia, because of few heaters Somalians, but the majority of Somalians are good. You seems a good person.

Peace!

I don't even mind if it's objective criticism on the state of the Somali people today. At least then we can talk about how to improve things as the state of affairs aren't that good. What irks the hell out of me though, lazy insults and how one relentless troll with 1000 different accounts in 10+ forums is now the voice of the Somali people.

Anyway, I don't want to deviate from your topic any further. There should be at least one positive Ethiopian or Somali thread on NL lol.

Dehna hunu!

GERALD710:
We have crushed them several times.
They excel in Business.In Eastleigh, a backwater in Eastlands.How many Somali owned companies does anyone know beyond First Community Bank
On the other hand I can count Kikuyu enterprises even in Garissa!!

Haha, so are we going to act like you don't know anything about Hass Petroleum - the Somali owned company that is currently erecting Africa's tallest building? This is funny since you were bragging about the company in the other thread.

You know the company that owns this tower just to refresh your memory lol.

https://nairobiwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hass.jpg

TayserMahiri:
First, why were Somalis attempting to conquer Abbysinia. Doesn't that tell you a lot about the nature of your people?

So you show up even more ignorant than before and this time you refuse to read the post you're replying to.. Amazing! The Somali/Muslim states were vassal states of Abyssinia until people had enough of the Abyssinian kings murdering the Muslim amirs and sultans. That tells you that human nature is to push back when you're driven to the edge.

TayserMahiri:
Secondly, you couldn't hold on to your conquer for long, don't give excuses, its easy to tell why. Disagreements over nothing.

Are you seriously alluding that Somalis didn't get pushed out of the conquered Abyssinian territory by Portugal and Abyssinia, but because of internal clan conflicts? Are you also suggesting that Cristovao da Gama who was the son of the famous Vasco da Gama wasn't captured in battle and killed by the Somali forces? Even if we were pushed out, the Abyssinian-Adal wars changed the face of the conflict forever. We went from being an oppressed Muslim minority to a regional powerhouse.

TayserMahiri:
Thirdly, how did the 77-78 war end? I can almost bet you got a serious @ss kicking from Ethiopia.

We actually managed to steamroll the Ethiopian forces till we reached Harar, which is less than 100 miles from the capital city with minimal losses. At that point the Soviet Union, South Yemen and Cuba intervened and that was the end of the war.

https://i.imgur.com/EeJXRFK.png

TayserMahiri:
Fourthly, Ethiopia never attempted to colonize anyone, if they wanted, there were other weaker states next to them that they could have gone to. I'm certain they were trying to curtail your sense of ego and contempt for all people who are not muslim.

When you don't understand something, it's best to get rid of any preconceived notions and let the actual fact do the talking, because right now you're actually talking out of your backside. I'm pretty sure you knew nothing of the Adal sultanate before my post and yet you are shifting the blame on them, saying that they hated non-Muslims. It is humorous to read that, considering the sultanate in question had been a vassal state of the Christian kingdom for around 600 years prior to the wars.

If Somalis had any contempt for non-Muslims at that time why was there a massive cathedral in downtown Mogadishu and more than 50,000 Christians(mainly from the Italian community) in the country?

If Ethiopia had never attempted to colonise anyone, why did "Emperor" Haile Selassie (you don't attain such a title without an empire which includes conquered territory) specifically ask the British Empire to hand him the Somali Haud and Ogaden regions which would later on be the cause of the 1977-78 war? Why was he vocal about 'uniting' Somalia and Ethiopia under His rule? Why did Ethiopia attack Somalia mere 3 years after its independence? So much for a peace loving pacifist empire eh..

There's no point of arguing just for the sake of it. There is no doubt the Somali people have had it bad for the past 25 years, but to portray them like a useless, all-evil bogeymen is just laughable, as if we didn't stop internal African wars, fund African freedom fighters in Zimbabwe and South Africa plus much more. But you want to know what's even more laughable? It is to say Somalis don't conquer anything when we hold the largest territory of any ethnicity in Africa stretching to well over 1 million square km and 4 countries. I'm guessing we just magically appeared into a large swathe of land pfft (sarcasm).

Ednite:
Everyone hates the ppl who are talking shii about their own ppl. Which is why I am against the majority Somalis. They try to represent us as we're racist. No one permitted them to rep us and plus never was even permitted to rep us as bad ppl

Where have you seen the majority of Somalis? Don't take everything you read on the Internet serious. Anonymous forums like this one gives freedom to losers who say the most despicable things online - something they wouldn't do when they're outside.

Fulaman198:
Lol, that's funny about being mod of the romance section instead of culture section. I'll reconsider where I'll mod for in the future and put romance on the top of my list. ROFL nice one bro

The Western world has a way of trying to make Africans feel inferior with brainwashing. I'm glad that you learned so much and educated yourself so that you had enough artillery to put your teachers in their respective places. The African continent has a plethora of bright and great cultures. The people are very happy and free.

It is my opinion that you don't get the same amount of freedom in any other continent. I've lived in the United States before so I wholeheartedly know exactly where you are coming from. Africans should never feel inferior because a lot of Western media (especially U.S. media) is fabricated and made up.

Germany has a lot of issues, I agree. I'm aware of how they treat Turkish people there, so I know exactly how they would treat Somalis.

Always take heart and pride in your culture.

My other piece of advice for you is also know to place yourself beneath the feet of a beautiful woman.

Salaam brother. How's it going? It has been another hectic year.
I'm about to head back to the motherland again. I've been back in Germany for a few weeks.

I see Enlightenedsoul is not here anymore. If you're reading this walaashey, nabad iyo kheir baan ku rajeynaya.

@OP, look I don't want to ruin your topic but I had to address the people talking sh!t about my people.

P.S. I don't hate Ethiopians. I've been to Ethiopia many times and never felt like a stranger. I also believe that some Ethiopians are our closest kin.

Now, do you see why Ethiopian Somalis dislike the Ethiopian name.. When you look beyond what the Somali troll posts here, it is unfathomable how Somalis are painted as the all-evil people here. People love to ignore the fact that the whole Abyssinia vs Somali/Muslim conflict started when the Abyssinian rulers killed countless Somali Amirs in vain, although the Amirs were paying tribute to the Abyssinian kings. These cold blooded murders carried on up until the Muslims (Somalis and Hararis) had enough and fought back. You people are lying to themselves if you believe the country of Ethiopia isn't an extended version of the Abyssinian Kingdom. The only Kingdom in Africa that actively took part in the division and so-called 'scramble for Africa' with the white Europeans.

TayserMahiri:
P.S I am liking Ethiopian history. Sort of like Africa's Ancient Greece. I knew Somalis can't conquer any serious matter given how they disagree with themselves on almost everything.

I won't even address your pathetic shot at Somalis when you're this ignorant. You ought to educate yourself on East African history. The Adali forces consisting of Somalis and Hararis had conquered most of Abyssinia within the space of 4 years until they begged the Portuguese to come and save them. The Adal-Abyssinian wars continued until the Oromo expansion paused it for 5 centuries. The Ethiopian-Somali 1977-78 war was just another episode of a series of wars and skirmishes going back almost 1000 years.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Map_of_Ethiopia_circa_1540.png/740px-Map_of_Ethiopia_circa_1540.png

Ednite:
It was hailesellassie our last emperor (the 225th). Lot of people get confused with their names lol

Muafrika2:
How does it work in Ethiopia, was Haile Gabre Sellasie the last King? I know you have a prime Minister, whst is the political structure?

How do you compare Kwame Nkrumah to genocidal Haile Sellassie? He might have preached about African unity but his actions were completely against. Weren't the hundreds of thousands of Oromo civilians who were either killed or put in concentration camps not Africans? He's the biggest fraud in Ethiopian history. Now Yohannes IV who fought against aggressors such as Egypt and Sudan was a real leader and should be celebrated as such instead of fraud Sellassie.

Ednite:
You know exactly how, don come ask me like you dnt

If you're talking about Ajuran and his 1000 usernames then you should know that he doesn't represent us.

Fulaman198 Lmao bro you should be the moderator of the Romance section, not culture

I'm sorry to burst the bubble after such a thoughtful reply, but I won't ask her out. You can do all of that the day you come to Germany and visit me

Bro I wasn't always so interested in my culture/people. In my early teens, I had a major inferiority complex because in Germany unless you are an ethnic-German, you're only German by paper. Despite being born here, there was always something missing. Our teachers boasted about their millennia-long history, their traditions, achievements and etc. whilst the white German kids listened with wide-eyed infatuation and pride. All I saw of my country of origin was war poverty, not knowing that it wasn't always like that. I visited the motherland during those years and just fell in love with everything; songs, dances, culture, the country and history. I came back to Germany and taught my teachers and classmates a lesson or two about the mighty Somali people beyond the days of the civil war

Ednite:
Thank you for letting me know that. Its always somali ppl ruining our name. hope u know Ethiopians don't do such things

How are we ruining your name if we're not even the same people?

adamskutty:
@artank i am doing fine and studies is going quite well. Where have you been? I am not into this forum like i used too, i find it boring nowadays, gone are those days of e-fight.
As for Ajuran, i heard he was here the past week(s) with a different identity, i don't have his time cos i believe he has matured by now.

That's great bro, you can't entertain fools all your life lol it will get boring at one point
I've been about bro, just been focussing on more pressing stuff.

Ajuran will probably never grow out of this childishness. Pretty sad life for a +30 year old but that's the life he's chosen lol.

EnlightenedSoul:
Nah, I'm doing great, walaal. I'm not stressed per se, just a lot on my mind. 'Sides, you know I like busy. I'm actually even less so than usual now due to SB and working shorter hours. I recently came back from a mini respite from everything, so I really can't complain. I've made a move myself, but it's in-state. I can't wait to move outta this state, wallahi, but that'll just have to wait a couple years. Def glad your project is working out for you. When r u set as of now?

I tell ya, from my experience in Misr, I legit predicted the NYE thing long before we heard tell of it on the news.

Anyway, remember how I told you long ago that I'd never heard your name before, ever? Well, I met someone named Artan for the first time a couple months ago at a wedding he was attending from out of state. He'd never heard my name before, either, lol. I got the occasional, "You mean, Mariam?", I sometimes get from some folks.

Somali is actually harder for me to comprehend when sung, lol. They don't use "normal" words in songs, do they? Or is it just me? Wallahi, I'll go whole songs catching only a few words here and there sometimes.

Anyway, someone introduced me to this cover not too long ago. I quite like it. You might.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDx-pRmd1H8

That's good to hear walashay
Why do you have to wait two years to move out of state if you don't mind me asking? Studies? How's it going with the leg and the raccoon smell?

The project is officially set to launch in a couple of years. The delay is down to lack of capital so we're working and saving the money we need from our pay. We have been told by potential investors that we won't receive any funding unless we have something to show for it. That's why we're financing it ourselves in the beginning and hoping for future investment from them once it takes off.

The short ones across the sea from us are exactly the same as the ones in Misr. Their brain goes in complete meltdown when they see a woman. It doesn't matter if she's covered or not. I didn't expect they'd go full retard in public though smh.

Artan is a rare name but I understand his surprise lol, I'd never come across your name before I cyber-met you. Remember how I even guessed my way to its meaning?

I feel your pain, I used to listen to Somali music because of their eccentric sound at one point. Now I can understand the gist of most verses just by listening more and even looking up the meaning of certain words before singing it.

The song is nice but it sounds like a mix of Somali and Arabic or is it sung in a different dialect? Only the hook sounds proper Somali to me

Fulaman198:
This is an old Hausa song for instance:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aWLldaq3ic

What's that instrument called in Fulani or Hausa? We have a similar instrument in Somalia called Shareero.

Btw is he making dua? I thought I heard Allahu shakuru..

Fulaman198:
It's hard man not be somewhat submissive when the African continent has so many beautiful women gosh!!!!!! Of course in person I pretend not to be submissive to beautiful women, but deep down I just want to worship them. In any case, I must stop now.

There is nothing wrong flirting with an older woman bro. In fact, I think you will gain knowledge and wisdom from her. Also, don't sell yourself short. Guys leagues above you? What makes them leagues above you? Their salary? Know that someday you will surpass them and possibly even earn more than them.

All you have to do one day, is bring her some very nice Somali cuisine, maybe some very nicely cooked sauteed Goat meat, with a nice sweet rice, bring some Fanta or orange juice (I assume you don't drink I don't as well), and bring her some Horn seductive music. Have a seat with her (not too close at first though), dress well, buttoned shirt, perhaps some decent pants and start a conversation with her. Make sure you smile a lot, and show her your charm. You have to know how to be romantic with women bro (although I am the last person to ask for advice on this sort of thing because when I start talking to women sometimes I forget how to speak English if she's extremely attractive and start muttering some stuff in Fulfulde).

Ali Farka Toure is one of my favourite musicians and like you said, in this genre of desert music, he's amazing. But there are so many amazing artists in this Sahel genre from West to East Africa. This song for example is from West Africa, but similar style let me know what you think. I"m surprised you couldn't hear that Shubahada Somali song. It's become one of my faves:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmMHJ6IBD4

Lmao @ deep down I want to worship them. A bit too much maybe?

About that lady, you're killing me with that advice LOL I have to be realistic bro. Imagine it backfires on me.. Never mind horn Africans/Africans, we're the only non ethnic Germans in the building. Shitt would get so awkward between us, therefore, I'm gonna stick to women who are on my level. I can't let my Johnny influence my decision-making lool.

That;s a nice song btw, it reminds me of this area in the far north east corner of Somalia. The place was covered in date farms, and the last night I was there, the owners of the farms and the workers invited me to their tent. We had some food, Somali traditional dances, and some guy remastering old Somali classics whilst playing the Oud. Everything was on point and it was by far the best night I had in Somalia.

Fulaman198:
Artan brother and EnlightenedSoul darling,

What do you guys think of this song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxavSZtSWtY

It says the video doesn't exist

Fulaman198:
Legs and Feet are the perfect combination and I have now learned (though I won't tell this to my other African brothers besides you since you understand), that a man's place is beneath a woman. Why haven't you tried talking to this Ethiopian lady? I'm sure she would like you. If I were there, I would probably forget would not even remember how to speak. Shiny legs my gosh, sounds like a Goddess walahi!

If you don't talk to her bro, I'll be upset with you.

With that said, both songs are very beautiful. I don't understand Somali, but I've always loved the Oud and instruments that sound a lot like the Oud. I really love Stringed instruments and the way they are played all over the African Sahel from Senegal to Somalia (and even in Sudan). The first song was really soothing and relaxing. The woman has a very beautiful voice. Bless these African queens!

To answer your second question, it was an offensive comment made towards you, so I hid it.

Bro I've got to stop you there lol don't turn into a submissive man because of your foot fetish. I don't flirt with her because not only is she 10 years older than me, but she's also well established and dates guys way above my league lol not gonna embarrass myself. She did welcome me nicely when I first moved in though, the horn African love is still there. We are just good friends and neighbours.

The Oud instrument is amazing when it is played properly. Talking about string instruments, I'm a big fan of Ali Farka Toure, he was a legend in this genre.
The first song is one of my mother's favourite songs of all time.

You should have left the reply, I would have trolled that person.

Fulaman already hiding comments who commented there?

@Fulaman198 How are you bro?
It's funny you mention that btw. There is this Ethiopian lady that lives two doors down from my flat. She's equipped with the shiniest legs I've ever seen and she doesn't hesitate to show them off. Everyone in my apartment block calls her 'diamant beine' which means diamond legs Are you ok with legs instead of feet?

@Enlightenedsoul it is great to hear from you again walaalo. I've moved from Cologne/Bonn (a few days before balayo happened in NYE) to Frankfurt because of work and I've been putting in more work for the project I told you about. It is tougher than I thought it would be, but alhamdulillah things is getting better now. You sound a little stressed, hope all is well with you walashey

I know what you mean with winding down for Qarami music. I put it on before I sleep or at least try to. There's something calming about the Kaban, it definitely isn't something you'd listen to when going out for a jog
I must admit that Fourshed was quite good, but the younger one is the Fourshit haha he's just a khasaro with a big name.

Currently listening to Saalax Qaasim - Moog Iyo Jaceyl


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyqis6GTHWc

Btw Qarami is helping me improve my Somali immensely


@Adamskutty nothing but blessings mallam Adam. How's life? School? And is your friend Ajuran still here?

Time: 05:49 am
Location: Central Frankfurt, Germany

After hours of trying to fall asleep, I lay there, listening to the faint Somali Qarami music in the background, whilst breathing in the cold air.
I turn towards the bedside drawers to change the song playing via the IPod.

Evidently, I won't be getting any sleep this time either.

Just as I changed the song, the Kaban intro of Ma Jinba by Maandeeq starts and I remember Nairaland and a humorous exchange I once had with @EnlightenedSoul. I can't help but smile as I recall our discussion regarding Fourshit, Ahmed Najis (joke ) and our parents' favourite artists.

This led me to funny memories of @Ajuran's shenanigans, @Fulaman198's foot fetish, @Adamskutty's hate for Ghanaians and newly invented words such as 'charcant'.
I get up and reach for the laptop. Let me see what Rer Nairaland is up to...

Here I am folks, it has indeed been a long while. How are you all doing?

Maandeeq - Ma Jinba ma Jaanbaa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKYjr6mzQ2Q

mira4u:
Ethiopia!! One of the most peaceful countries in Africa.

Peaceful? Far from it.

In this hypothetical war, all the US and it's allies need to do is place sanctions on China. Most of China's top 10 export partners are US friendly nations and it would result in yearly losses of up to 2-3 trillion USD.