RedboneSmith:


Yes, that's the name in practically all the literature. I just think it's an odd name for a town. Kind of like an Igbo village answering Eze Ndubuisi instead of Ụmụ Eze Ndubuisi or Ndi Eze Ndubuisi.

Yeah I also think that Obong Okon Ita might be a unique name for a community.

I noticed that there is a community in Akwa Ibom State called Obong Ntak. I wonder what is the meaning of the name.

The Aro News Online article and other sources state that the Ibibio-Efik referred to the Arochukwu people (especially Obinkita) as the Inokon. The name Inokon might have been short for Obio Okon Ita or Obong Okon Ita. Perhaps Inokon was the actual name of the indigenous Ibibio clan.

RedboneSmith:


The reason I thought obio is because I was told obio means town in Ibibio. And "the town of Okon Ita" makes more sense to me than "Chief Okon Ita" as the name of a settlement. Plus Obio Okon Ita looks closer to Obinkita than Obong Okon Ita.

You're probably right on the Ibom thing. You have any idea what the word means in Ibibio? Ubom means beach in Igbo. Wonder if the word is related to Ibom.

Facts. That is true.

I think Ibom means Universe, Earth, or community?

https://www.aziza.com.ng/meaning-of-akwa-ibom/

I initially thought that the name of the Ibibio clan was Obong Okon Ita because of this article:

https://www.aronewsonline.com/?p=651

RedboneSmith:
Is it possible that instead of Obong Okon Ita, the place was called Obio Okon Ita?

Good question. That makes sense too. I was also thinking about the possibility of Ibom being the original name of the Ibibio-Efik clan that lived in the entire area known as present day Arochukwu. The present day Ibom village in Arochukwu might have kept the name of the indigenous clan.

I’m not sure. Unfortunately, we will never know because of the lack of written records. We can make very educated guesses though lol

nsiba:
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Obong Okon Ita isn't a clan but the Chief of the Ibibio tribe in Ibom present day Arrochukwu and environs.
Was betrayed by his half brother, slaves and settlers.
Obong means Chief
Obot can be said to a hill, rock mountain

Thank you for the information.

I would like to verify if:

Obong means ruler?

Obot means Nature?

Okon means night?

Ita means three?

lastempero:


A part of the clan and not all aros and it's fully recognised in aro history but saying that aro kingdom originated from abriba is not right.

Facts. No one on this topic posted that all Arochukwu lineages came from Abiriba (or Edda).

It is well documented that Aro lineages came from different areas. For example, I am a direct descendant of the indigenous Ibibio/Efik people of Arochukwu. Some Aro families are said to have came from Amasiri, Ibom Isii lineage originally came from the East of the Cross River, etc.

AjaanaOka:


It only hit me a few years ago. Then as I asked questions and read more, the evidence just sort of piled up.

It's puzzling to me how the historians who have written on Aro origins (Afigbo, Onwuka/Ekejiuba, Nwauwa, etc) seem to have missed, or at least not explored it.

I definitely understand. Historians should have explored Abiriba-Arochukwu ancestral ties more. Nwauwa did address this topic but did not get into as much detail:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3172068?seq=1

Your post would make a great article. It will be challenging for one to dispute the points made (especially with the various sources). Some of my relatives agree with this narrative while others do not but they never make valid points to dispute this lol.

IDENNAA:
Basically, Arochukwu origin lies in Abriba and not some location northwards. However, this does not apply to all the quarters in the clan.

That is true. Abiriba and Edda areas.

Excellent post. I agree with this narrative. I have been saying this for years now. There is very strong evidence to support this view.

ibibiogrl:

Seems you still believe that Efik migrated from Uruan & Arochukwu. Uruan are ibibio s they speak ibibio and practice all of ibibios tradition. Uruan LGA is even close to mine Uyo capital of AKS. Only thing that makes Uruan unique is that some still practice the traditions that they adopted from Efik. Infact since the creation of AKS most are back to being just normal Ibibios. Therefore Uruans have the same origins of the rest of the Ibibios.
Maybe Efik have exchanged cultures with Ejaghams like ndibidi. But there are many other unique traditions of Efik. Am being blocked daily by Spambot here recently. So you might want to go back to Read the thread about the differences of the groups, because I mentioned quite a few like their marine God/Goddess AtimOkpoEbot

lol that was a hectic thread.

nsiba:
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Uruans are core Ibibios who kicked out some disgruntled elements among em called the ibokus, they went over the other side of the river selling prawns while the Efuts and quas maintained the core land.
Oku Ibokus just that borders Uruan are some elements
Fortunately for them they encounterd merchants dealers from Europe who made them feel their black asses is any different
from them
https://archive.org/details/twoprincesofcala00spar/page/142/mode/2up

This is a nice book to read it too will deepen ur knowledge

Cool. I will definitely review.

ibibiogrl:

Sorry the dumb people that have been posting lately in this thread distracted me

Ibibios are the oldest inhabitants of their location and so I don't believe the migrated from Usak Edet in Cameroon. https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/1687277
https://www.jstor.org/stable/485085?seq=1

Also I don't believe that the ancestors of Efik came from Arochukwu or Uruan groups, I believe that most of them stayed in Adadia a village in Uruan, after migrating from or through Cameroon. Because the Oron group never lived in Uruan or Arochukwu, but yet they have the same cultures and traditions as Efik. Although most Orons do regard Uruan as their relatives just because of that Efik connection. Then you have the Ejaghams who's other half are still in Cameroon, yet they still share most cultures and traditions with Efik.

So how did Efik get these cultures and traditions if they were originally from Arochukwu or Uruan

lol all is well. You make good points. The Ibibio are likely the oldest people in their current location. Perhaps the Proto Ibibio speakers migrated to their current location from present day Southern Cameroon thousands of years ago just like how the Proto Igbo speakers may have migrated to their current location from the Niger Benue Confluence thousands of years ago.

True. The Uruan, Efik, Oron, etc have common origin. The Ibibios of Arochukwu and Efiks have a relationship as well. Based on Efik accounts, at least some of the ancestors of the Efik people lived in the Arochukwu area before moving to their current location. A lot of migrations took place back then.

When the Efiks migrated to the Calabar area, they mixed with the Ejagham/Qua, Efut, etc significantly. A lot of cultural exchange. For example, the Efik adopted Nsibidi (And maybe Ekpe?) from the Ejagham. After some time, it seems like the Efiks (Oron and Uruan as well) had a lot of contact with other groups and eventually developed distinct cultural practices from their Ibibio relatives.

ibibiogrl:

You should Not Be explaining to people online what you yourself don't know. Seems you didn't grow up in the Akwa-Cross states, so

Here are the Major differences in Cultures between Efik, Annang & Ibibio


EXAMPLE OF DIFFERENCES IN DANCE CULTURE


This is Efik dance Ekombi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rynsh2CaqAk&feature=related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQdZUsrdGw0&t=120s

READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo

Also having lived in Abak & Calabar for a while I can tell you the differences in language.
Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke.
Words can also be totaly different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.

Example of sentences- English:-1) My house is were we all are/We're all in my house. 2) This is my house
Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie. 2)Ilung ida ade ami
Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba. 2) Ufok mmi ado mi
Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu. 2) Ebiet idung mmi edi emi.

Most Ibibios & Efiks Do Not Understand Annang except the have lived in the Annang region, so how can the be dialects of each other Also Annang has 3-4Major dialect that an Ibibio or Efik won't understand 2words. Ibibio also has several dialects like Itumbonuzo, Eket etc.. Efik doesn't have any dialect as far as i know. So again how can Annang & Ibibio including their typical dialects be dialects of Efik?

AtaniWarrior:


From your understanding, where did the Proto Ibibio speakers come from?

Did the ancestors of the Efik people originally come from the Ibibio groups in the Arochukwu and Uruan areas?

lol hey what about my questions?

nsiba:
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Ye read and connect with better understanding, seems corona virus has calmed down madamoiselle ibibiogrl....stay safe everyone

Stay safe

Great posts. Thank you for sharing. Very rich culture.

Thank you for sharing.

ibibiogrl:

That is A Bogus Research & is Wrong Usak Edet has nothing to do with Ibibio but everything to do with Efik. Also the Origins and differences of Ibibio, Annang & Efik was already discussed here on Nairaland. READ more Here https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo

From your understanding, where did the Proto Ibibio speakers come from?

Did the ancestors of the Efik people originally come from the Ibibio groups in the Arochukwu and Uruan areas?

nsiba:


This is one is another well researched material not one from a party, naming,wedding and BURIAL ceremony freak



http://bestupdateblog..com/2017/08/classification-of-ibibio-names.html?m=1

ibibiogrl:

The retard nsiba didn't give you all the information. Full name of that deity is AwaItam It's one of the notorious deity in ibibioland, almost like Ibritam in the past. Itam is the biggest or 1 of the biggest clans in Itu LGA. If you take my interpretation Awa=to sacrifice & Itam(clan) it's still relates. Many people know about the deity AwaItam, so you should be able to find out more information.

nsiba:


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/335517639_Evaluating_the_Place_of_the_Ekpe_Traditional_Institution_as_a_Tool_for_Nation-Building_in_Pre-Colonial_Cross_River_Region

Excellent. I should also (re)connect with my Ibibio/Efik kin in my area.

ibibiogrl:

Maybe it's not Ibibio, how about checking the interpretation in other neighboring languages, like Ekoi Ejagham, Oron etc...

True. That is a good idea.

nsiba:
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I will help u with some but all clan in do have theirs (deity) that they pay homage aside the supreme being of the sky
There are informations that are oral, some ambiguous, questionable or fictitious but sound and learned minds should be able to discern such but still use em as guide

When you hear people tracing their ancestry to Ethiopia, Egypt, Israel or Ghana bro this is 2020 simple DNA components make up of us and modern anthropology studies can put all those to garbage for eternity
See u around soon and let this be Clear here in Africa, in Nigeria and in our villages there is a limit a woman can have information no matter what....there are certain things they can NEVER know

I will definitely do more research.

ibibiogrl:

Alright I see your points, but my interpretations are accurate in any Ibibio dialect, there are no other possible interpretation in Ibibio.

I have never heard of Loesin , I have heard and know that Esin is an Oron name, but I don't know the meaning.

lol honestly the meaning of Loesin is probably unknown at this point. Loesin was a chief priest of Ibritam (renamed Ibini Ukpabi) sometime in the 17th century.

nsiba:
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Life is very good my brother especially when an illiterate and maniac girl or woman (who knows if she isn't a Granny) has been lying and talking like a Parrott knows she knows natin, absolute natin...
The fo-olish mad woman is correct to some extent but I know once that bridge is done you and your lovely people won't be needing the likes of this maniac, kids in Itu will gladly put you in the right path while d adults would simply love to be of any help
Awa is a deity in my clan people don't use the name, so interpreting names don't necessarily mean translating it to English literally.
Kindly do me a favor, if you come across that useless mad woman tell her whenever she is town from one those her useless endless 'waka waka' from one place to another.
She shud come down to the Uyo Paramount ruler palace, I need to SLA-P the taste out of her useless mouth....nonsense she-goat mentioning my name upandan!
Have a good week my good friend

Thank you for sharing my kin. Very interesting. Do you have more information on the Awa deity? Have a great week as well.

Is the meaning of the name Loesin related to the name Essien (The Child Who Takes Charge Of Outside Matters)?

ibibiogrl:

I don't think that Retard undesrtands or speak the language, including any other language in Cross River or Akwa Ibom state but lets see what he/she will reply

lol maybe there are different meanings in other dialects. We will see. I know the information you provided is accurate based on some research I have done over the years though. I read about the meaning of Inokon before. I knew Okon is associated with night. Kakakpo/Kakpokpo (I have seen the name spelled as Akakpokpo too) being a mispronunciation or nickname of Akpo Akpo makes sense and maybe another possible meaning is Akak (Tired/Fed up/Exhausted) Akpo (Corpse/Deceased/Spirit).

nsiba:
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Mister what r you learning?
You are learning history from someone that has never in her miserable life lived or set foot on Ibibio soil
If I stand on obot ITU, Arrochukwu is very visible from there or you come down to Itu via the creek
We hope the bridge Senator Ita Enang is building will be completed ASAP which will make accessing ITU and Akwa Ibom much easily
Read, peruse and decipher chaff from wheat gather knowledge but NEVER you rely on anybody that is teaching ur history that has no real history but relying on internet to teach you ABSOLUTE RUBBISH...
All d best

Life Is Good. I recommend that we all relax, engage in constructive conversations, share information, and refrain from insulting each other.

Do you disagree with Ibibiogrl’s response about the meaning of Kakakpo, Awa, and Inokon? If so, what is the meaning of these names from your understanding?

Salute to my Igala brethren.

ibibiogrl:

Glad to teach and appreciate your willingness to learn, and not just state ignorance fact as the truth like some here.

lol all is well. Perhaps both parties can come to a peaceful resolution and agree to disagree.

Excellent topic. Thank you for sharing. The Igbo Sacred Science Systems are very fascinating and intricate. There is a lot that we can learn and apply from these systems to improve ourselves and the society.

Excellent culture. Salute to my Ohafia brethren.

ibibiogrl:

No There is no Ibibio name that begins with Kak, but Kak is actually in the middle and it's Ironically the opposite of powerful Kak=Akak which means tired, like ankak=am tired. Therefore Nsikak is the abreviation of the name Nsikakabasi=what is tiredsome to God? Meaning nothing is tiredsome to God. Etokakpan= Etok(small) Akpan(1st son). I told you Kakpokpo might have been Akpo Akpo(corpse corspe) mispronouced.

Akpo Akpo. Okay I can definitely see that. I’m a direct descendant of the original Ibibio/Efik of Arochukwu and I have been learning more about the various ethnic groups of present day Akwa Ibom and Cross River States over the years. I appreciate your contributions to Nairaland. I am learning a lot.

ibibiogrl:


Ignore that Person the person is absolutely ignorant and doesn't even know what he/she is talking about There's nothing like Calabarian, seems the person is confusing Kalabari-Ijaw with Calabar. That person doesn't even know that Calabar is a city in another state, also Efik is not even spoken in the same state where Ibibio is spoken. That person would not recognize 1 word out of all those languages, not to talk about knowing the differences. I don't know why Ignorant people choose to give their ignorant opinion as advice To learn more about the differences in not only languages but the cultures and traditional diffrerences of Major groups in Akwa Ibom and Cross River state. READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo




Kakakpo is not Ibibio might have been a nickname that the Aro-Igbo fighters gave to the half Ibibio prince, maybe mispronoucing Akpo=corpse(similar to Ekpo=ghost/masquerade.) Could've been hailig him as too powerful to be a human being
Awa=to sacrifice, it is also the name of a big village/clan I believe Ini Edo and the current govenor of Akwa Ibom are from there.
Inokon is a last name might have been an abreviation of Ino okoneyo= thief of the night.

Thank you for the information. I will definitely review the topic and continue to do more research. I noticed that some Ibibio names have Kak like Akak, Etokakpan, Nsikak, etc. Does Kak have to do with being powerful/higher/above then?

Beachside:
Efik,Ibibio,Oron,Eket,Annang are all communities and dialects of the same ethnicity or ethnic nation which has no official name but is popularly referred to as Calabar,Akwacross or Efik/ibibio. I prefer the term Calabar/Calabarian as the official name of the ethnicity's land and people . Efik is the most popular dialect and Ibibio is also popular dialect now,perhaps due to larger population. With that ,the official and standard Calabarian language is either Efik or an official standard has to be created by professional linguist based on Efik and Ibibio combined which won't be different from what is already spoken there now . in any case, Efik is the standard and official Calabarian language and is in the process of being registered by google.
None of the communities and dialects above are sub groups of anyone, nor are they different languages like French ,Portuguese ,Spanish as someone erroneously insinuated earlier. They are the same people and language with dialectical differences caused by primordial hunter gather isolation factors and they just have different population ,that's all . No one knows for sure how the group and language evolved and which dialect was the first in which the others evolved from due to the fact Africans never recorded their history beyond 800 years ago . All hypothesis are only speculative, and frankly does not matter .
French is a language with it's own dialects ; the Parisian dialect being one of 2 most popular & standard french. same applies to Italian, and Spanish.
Italian,Portuguese and Spanish are of the same family tree just like Calabarian,Igbo,Fang ,and perhaps Ejagham are of the same family tree with a few similar sounding words yet different language.
I'm self taught and can speak 6 other languages other than English: Spanish,Japanese,Brazilian Portuguese,German,Lithuanian(my girlfriend's background .she can't even speak it),Setswana(Botswana) and I can understand a few others such as French, owerri igbo dialect,Efik Calabar dialect and I get the idea on ibibio,Oron and annang dialect , Swahili,Arabic. I've visited over 11 countries so far. The same method applies to all ethnicity and languages on earth.

Very interesting. Makes a lot of sense. Thank you for sharing.

Good topic. I’m Igbo. My father’s lineage was originally Ibibio/Efik/Ejagham and my mother’s lineage was originally Igala. I embrace the various groups and study their cultures and history.

Some of my relatives embrace our mixed ethnic origins and are apart of or affiliated with Igbo as well as Ibibio/Efik/Ejagham or Igala cultural organizations. Other relatives deny our mixed ethnic origins and only identify themselves as Igbo. I witnessed a lot of hilarious debates growing up lol. Nothing serious though. Ultimately, it is one’s personal choice on who they decide to identify with.

ibibiogrl:
In Ibibio

God has done me well= Abasi ame anam aboho
God favoured me= Abasi afon ye ami(for a name Mfon means grace/favor)
God answers = Abasi aboro (name Iboro means answer)
Miracle God = UtibeAbasi

What is the meaning of the following names?

-Kakakpo
-Awa
-Inokon

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