₦airaland Forum

kskpoundz:
point of correction,daz too small 4 police to handle,d civil defence is enof 4 dere

You can try your locals too, we might not even need any external help, to help control your own children.

tbaba1234:
Dude, stop this!! It is irritating when you people do this. Thousands of Nigerians are fleeing Mubi to Cameroun and Yola. Enough!! Your partisanship is affecting lives.

There is nothing happening in Mubi, the police cannot handle. Thousands can flee, but Nigeria is not going to standstill for that reason.

kskpoundz:
If you compare children, you will kill one with beating, my elders say.

Fashola was on his way to Mecca for pilgrimage when Ebola broke out in his state and the guy turned back and went home to battle Ebola- that is called minding your business.

Boko Haram takes over Mubi amputating people's limbs and Nigerians calling for help and the next day Jonathan is on his way to Burkina Faso to help them find peace.

What do we call that?

Smart politics, nothing is happening in Mubi, the police cannot handle. You people want government to standstill in this country, is not going to happen.

Judge sounds ok, but is the court and prisons systems ready to deal with thousands, that will be arrested daily. Unless, we want to create a new pocket revenue for FRSC officers.

This thread like most of the boko haram threads opened since Mubi became the newest word in the boko haram supporters lexicon, should be sent to the joke section.

^^^^ The buhari supporters are better advised to leave the past alone. Buhari was bad market in 1966, 1976,1983, 1994, 2011 and most definitely in 2015. If they want to revisit the man's past, then we will tell them the complete story.

In the year 2014, it is unfortunate that some public commentators still feel a need to resort to using indecorous language when discussing retired Major General Muhammadu Buhari, a former military dictator and leading presidential aspirant of the All Progressives Congress (APC). If not for anything else, Buhari, at 72, is a Nigerian elder who deserves to be accorded the respect that all Nigerian communities accord their elders. True, there are times when Buhari himself fails to speak or act like an elder. Despite that, we cannot take away what God, in His mercies, has granted the man; that is, the privilege of living to become an elder.



Those who are in support of Buhari’s desire to ascend the nation’s presidency are fond of pointing to his anti-corruption record when he was a military dictator who truncated the democratically-elected government of President Shehu Shagari at the end of 1983. For what it is worth, it must be conceded that this much-vaunted anti-corruption record is a good starting point, never mind that the immense differences between a 42-year-old Buhari leading a military dictatorship and a 72-year-old Buhari chasing a civilian presidency do not quite resolve in the retired General’s favour.

On the other hand, for those who are against Buhari’s present-day ambition, it is also to his records, and his words, that they should turn; there should be no room for rude or inappropriate language. In Buhari’s records and words, present and past, we find enough to make discerning Nigerians shudder that the former military dictator would once again present himself as a potential presidential candidate of any political party after three failed attempts.

The present-day Buhari, that is the 72-year-old chasing a civilian presidency, said recently in an interview that he is not opposed to a Muslim-Muslim ticket, implying that Christians in the country should either live with it or perhaps go and form their own country. In his words: “…the question of this Muslim-Muslim ticket, although it was a long way from Abiola and Kingibe [in 1993], all the same, I have not absolutely closed my mind….” That an elder like Buhari fails to see how insensitive these words are is an indication that he may, unfortunately, have a hangover from his days as a military dictator.

Even though former President Olusegun Obasanjo, while not addressing Buhari directly, has pooh-poohed the Muslim-Muslim ticket idea, it certainly cannot register with the APC presidential aspirant. This is because, as a military dictator, Buhari did exactly as he wished and picked Brigadier (later Major-General) Tunde Idiagbon, a fellow Muslim, as his deputy under the title of Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters. If Buhari, the military dictator, saw nothing wrong in him, a Muslim, having another Muslim as his deputy, it is a wonder that people expect him today to now reconsider his position, more so, after having thrice, as he rationalised, chosen Christian running mates and failed to win in 2003, 2007 and 2011.



Moreover, Buhari’s record in his days of military dictatorship speaks volumes of his tolerance for or predisposition towards people from the South of Nigeria. His Supreme Military Council, SMC, the highest decision-making body under Buhari’s government, was inaugurated in January 1984 with a total of 16 members. Eleven of the SMC members were from the North. These included Buhari himself and Idiagbon, Major-General Domkat Bali, Major-General Ibrahim Babangida, Major-General Mamman Vatsa, and Air Vice Marshal Ibrahim Alfa. Others were Brigadier Sani Abacha, Brigadier Yohanna Kure, Brigadier Mohammed Magoro, Brigadier Gado Nasko, and Colonel Salihu Ibrahim.

The five Southerners on the SMC were: Commodore Augustus Aikhomu, Brigadier Ola Oni, Brigadier Paul Omu, Air Commodore Larry Koinyan and Navy Captain Ebitu Ukiwe. Interestingly, Omu, Koinyan and Ukiwe appeared to be afterthoughts for, other than Nasko, they were the only SMC members without portfolios.

Additionally, in Buhari’s heyday as the overlord of the General Sani Abacha-established Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF), it is on record that he took matters to an astonishing level by engaging the services of the late Ahmad Salihijo, his brother in-law and head of the all-powerful Afri-Projects Consortium, as a super-consultant. It was well-known that absolutely nothing could happen in PTF without the express approval of Salihijo’s Afri-Projects Consortium, the supervising-consultant to the PTF that wielded so much power in a manner that had never been seen in any organisation before then.

If that was the Buhari of the past, it is common knowledge that the present-day Buhari continues to surround himself with mostly people from the Katsina-Kaduna-Kano axis. Buhari only remembers to make a quick dash to the south when he is seeking a lame-duck running mate for his quest for the presidency. Of course, that is his right. He may associate with only those he wishes to associate with. However, it should concern all well-meaning Nigerians if, with his track record, Buhari wishes to lead Nigeria under a democratic dispensation.

It should also concern all Nigerians that the present-day Buhari has consistently displayed a predilection to encourage violence among his followers. Indeed, it would be rather irresponsible of Nigerians to forget that it was Buhari who said: “If what happened in 2011 should again happen in 2015, by the grace of God, the dog and the baboon would all be soaked in blood.” The interpretation to this ominous statement is a clear pointer that we do not require insults to reject Buhari’s present-day aspirations.[b][/b]
http://www.opinions.ng/buharis-records-and-words-are-enough/

mrborntodoit:
I copied these points from datolee whom made a verifiable research so I decided to create a separate thread in order not to derail barcanista's lying thread ( or even trend...lol )


Datolee's Extracts:

I really don't know why Barcanista had to lie in order to sell his candidate, Buhari, to people. Instead of telling us what are his plans, you (Barcanista) continue attacking GEJ with outright lies and deceptions.

Most often, I (datolee) don't like commenting on some issues but the way you (Brcanista) stand the truth on it's head is alarming. I don't know where you get your information but let me answer some of the lies you, APC and Buhari supporters keep shoving down our throat.

1. Boko Haram is not politically motivated, at least you can read the submission of Ahmad Salkida. So for me, saying that APC or PDP are sponsors of Boko Haram is just playing dirty politics with a very serious issue. Rather than coming together together to eliminate those evils, we keep making a child play out of it. https://www.nairaland.com/1977631/explosive-ahmad-salkida-reveals-what

Even Boko haram is PDP or APC sponsored, who sponsored Maitatsine? These are fundamental groups and they need no politician. As for the $9.3 million, I guess you know better than the SA government who after thorough investigation released the fund back to the Nigeria government. Why would an important security matter be discussed in the house and open to the public??

2. You keep on talking about the same issue which have been dealt with before. I will borrow the submission of atlwireles "You are not worth my time, how some of you, try to wish the past away is really disturbing. You are quoting a columnist to challenge a study from the library of congress. Helen Chapin Metz, ed. Nigeria: A Country Study. Washington: GPO for the Library of Congress, 1991.
http://countrystudies.us/nigeria/30.htm" F[b]rom the link, it was clearly stated that Buhari did indeed started the process of registering Nigeria to OIC. you have not provided any prove or link to disprove this, yet you keep pestering us with your lies.[/b]

3. This is the highest of all lies and cheap propaganda! I challenge you to provide us evidence of GEJ, CAN or Pastor Adeboye asking Christians to vote for Christians only. When has it become a crime to pray for those in authority? Even the Bible commanded us to pray for the leaders.
Until you provide us evidence anybody other than Buhari asking for one religion to vote for that particular religion, you are on a long time and may I remind you, you can use what others said to hold GEJ accountable so don't bring Asari or Edwin Clark into this

4. The crushing of the Maitatsine group didn't start with Buhari, infact the main leader of the group was killed in 1980 and they experience their major casualty during the time of Shagari. They kept moving from one state to another and by 1985 they moved to Cameroon.

5. This is the biggest lies APC and Buhari supports have been telling (the exception maybe that Buhari built 2 refineries in 20 months). Again, I challenge you to give you a report of Nigeria debt profile when Buhari left office. Which debt did Buhari clear?

When Shagari was overthrown in 1983 by Buhari led coup, Nigeria's external debt was $14 billion, by the Buhari left office, the debt has risen to $19 billion.

This from the Nigeria's Debt Management Office (DMO) "The debt stock therefore increased with leaps and jumps, even when no new loans were contracted. Nigeria’s external debt stock till 1977 was less than US$0.8 billion. Beginning from 1978, the external debt stock began to grow astronomically, rising from US$0.763 billion in 1977 to US$5.09 billion in 1978 and U$8.855 billion in 1980, an increase of over 73.96 percent between 1978 and 1980.
By 1985 the debt profile had deteriorated seriously due to persistent inability of the country to meet its external debt service obligations. This resulted in mounting arrears and unmanageable growth of the debt stock relative to available resources. The external debt stock, which was about US$8.855 billion in 1980, grew to nearly US$19 billion by 1985. Correspondingly, the debt stock as a percentage of total export earnings and GDP rose to uncomfortable levels of 154% and 24 %, respectively." http://www.dmo.gov.ng/ardrnigeriaexternalanddomesticdebt.php or page 6 of this research http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/jpl/article/viewFile/670/647

Please tell us which debt Buhari cleared and datolee will give you details of what happened with IMF.

6. What economy grow under Buhari? disengaging 250,000 workers as soon as he assumed office, freezing the salary of lecturers and doctors? operating a budget deficit. What exactly did he do?

It is high time APC liars stop deceiving people with their hidden agendas


Thanks to datolee , atlwireles , and everyone out there who took their time to read these verifiable facts!

Thanks, people like you and I need to be speaking up. Never believed, I would live to see a day, Buhari is called a great economist. . Most of their propaganda stays on NL. Imagine some of these fellows opening their mouths in public. Can you imagine, the kind of slap most of them will receive.

What else needs to be said, God bless Nigeria. Even Obama will envy Goodluck now.

annita19:
Impeachment would be nice

I will not go that far. Don't want anything, that will sour the markets and energize Obama's supporters.

[quote author=annita19 post=27750450] we rolled in. Taking America back and making it better for the Americans. Sorry Libtards. Isn't it so amazing that Americans and the world have at last figured how much of a worthless loser, liar and fraud Obama is. [/quote]

Beautifully said, , The fraudster will spend the next two years learning to be a good American

ISpiksDaTroof:
You've had enough time for even Nigeria's notoriously slow Internet to boot up and allow you search Google. So, here goes again: What is a gerrymander?

keep your eyes on the road. When will you accept, Obama was kicked in the balls by the voters

hercules07:
He does not want to be educated, he has brought the same attitude he has to GEJ to this discussion, when saner people and most Americans are unhappy about Bush and his cohorts, he is telling us porkies here.

That's the problem with some of you, you think you know all, when in reality, you are in total darkness.

hercules07:
Why do you keep dancing around issues, I was talking about terrorism globally, the issue in the middle east spawned a lot of the terrorism we have now.

My globe is Nigeria and Africa. Comparing the last Republican to this democrat. Bush was far better, for Nigeria and Africa.

9jaforlife:
How do you want to credit ISIS [/b]directly[b] to Obama??

Started from an American controlled prison, right under his nose. Even after several security warnings, Obama did nothing. He wants credit for Osama, then give him the blame for ISIS too.

ISpiksDaTroof:
Roflmaoooooooooo

Hercules07, please explain what a gerrymander is to this pretentious illiterate village billy goat.

Taxi driver, please keep your eyes on the road. Gerrymandering, is the reason democrats lost, senate and governorship seats in Maryland, Massachusetts, Florida, Illinois and maybe Virginia. I thought you were smarter than a primary 5 pupil.

hercules07:
I can not see where I wrote about Obama being a man with my skin colour, we are talking about democrats and republicans not individuals. Bush put the Americans in the nonsense they are in now, he could not get Osama bin laden, he invaded Iraq and put the cost on a credit card, the great depression happened on his watch, the greatest attack on America happened under his watch, american embassies were attacked and people killed under his watch, please, Bush is the worst thing to have happened to the Americans in a very very long time, as per his policies towards Africa, he did not give a damn. Islamic terrorism exploded under Bush, for Christ's sake, the guy handled Iraq after the war like an amateur.

Remind me of the Islamic terrorism explosion in this continent during bush's tenure? Because, I cannot remember one.

9jaforlife:
It was NOT during his time that the Trade Tower was bombed, I'm talking about the 9/11 attacks. And he wasn't the one that spearheaded the Iraq's invasion to search for the non existent WMD, which has only brewed hostility of terrorists towards America. Even American government officials have owned up that it was a mistake. If anything, Obama should be credited for finding Osama.

He found Osama and gave the world ISIS.

hercules07:
Please read up about elections voting pattern in the US and stop this nonsense, the elections of Republicans is going to affect African Americans and Nigerians, those guys have no love for anybody not of their skin and class, and if they ever get the white house, just know that BH will escalate beyond anything you have ever witnessed, they will start their wars in the middle east and africa and BH will have new training facilities.

The last republican in the white house was George bush. Please compare his administration as it relates to the continent to Obama, the man with your skin coulor, as you put it. Please remind us, how Islamic terrorism was treated across the world, till the appeaser in chief became President.

What voting pattern are you talking about? Are these not the same voters who made Obama President?

hercules07:
Apparently you do not know about politics in the US, the turnout of democrats is usually low at these elections, also, the republicans have gerrymandered the districts so they will win, in 2 years democrats will still win the white house and at least one of the houses will be back in their control.
The issue of PDP or Jonathan being nothing more than failures is not up for debate, because the economy was rebased means Jonathan is trying abi when oil has been at record highs in the last 16 years yet no steady power.

Is now about turnout? Who won? My friend don't make a mess of yourself.

ISpiksDaTroof:
Your democracy is still developing, and most of your population are(by Western Standards) still backwards and uncivilized, so you would be forgiven when you think that Americans would sit back and watch Politicians drive them into destitution for 16yrs while they live fat off the resources of the land.

I can tell you this for a fact, GEJ would've never been made Chief-cook of the White House to talk of leading it. And if by chance, say, he became leader of the United States, he would've DEFINITELY been impeached and thrown in Federal Prison within a year--- if we are to take all the unbelievable crimes he has committed against the Nigerian state into consideration.

Words of an inferiority complex goat. Please go and drive your taxi around DC.

ruffp:
No wahala....as long as they present a level playing field!

Free and fair, that's all we ask. The great umbrella party we call PDP will do the needful. God bless Nigeria.

ISpiksDaTroof:
If you really think I will sit here and discuss American politics with an African that obviously doesn't even have the slightest idea, but wants to pretend like he does, then you got something else coming.

You make me laugh, a walking amazon with zero clue. Please keep spreading your inferiority complex on NL. Once again, your Obama will learn what it means to be a great American in the next two years,

ISpiksDaTroof:
Republicans are in control of Congress, Oil Prices are down, the United States is self-sufficient when it comes to energy, most Republicans are ultra-conservative...

If you think this bodes well for you, not just as a black man, but especially as an African all I can do is just laugh at your ignorance and naivety.

Oil prices are down, so what? The last major investment in the continent was led by George Bush a republican to combat aids. Please remind us of the great policy advancement, your Islamic hero Obama led in the continent?

ISpiksDaTroof:
Or he can just use his Presidential powers to the max? Anyway, that's what Democracy is all about. At no point in time did you see Obama kneeling down in front of Priests or pitting one race, ethnicity or religious group against each other, either with action or words. He also didn't start withdrawing Security Aides from his political opponents...

Oh, Wait, that's true we don't just toss Security operatives at Politicians for their protection when ordinary Americans need it more. Plus, States have their own laws and control their own police, so Obama simply can't issue directives to them just because he feels like it.

Anyway, it's called democracy for a reason. Yall need to learn how to practice it properly.

Please remind us if your APC in Nigeria or anything close to APC will be tolerated for 5 mins in the United states. Your APC closely resembles the Clan or the Nation of Islam. Both operating, from the fringes of a democracy.

Ngwakwe:
I wrote an article on why I think GEJ is better than Obama and instead of some opposition readers digesting the content of my submissions they resorted to insulting me over and over.

I saw another genuine/confirmed list of Obama's failed policies and why the Republicans got the better part of the Democrats.

Here's the list below

President Obama claims that Republicans are busy probing “phony scandals.” But the sheer number of scandals suggests that misbehavior, abuse of power, and possibly corruption are not something being dreamed up by the GOP, but a defining characteristic of the Obama administration.

Here is a full list of the administration’s most egregious scandals. The ones we know about, at least. I’ve added four since the last time we ran the list – an increase of 20 percent!

1. IRS targets Obama’s enemies: The IRS targeted conservative and pro-Israel groups prior to the 2012 election. Questions are being raised about why this occurred, who ordered it, whether there was any White House involvement and whether there was an initial effort to hide who knew about the targeting and when.

2. Benghazi: This is actually three scandals in one: The failure of administration to protect the Benghazi mission. The changes made to the talking points in order to suggest the attack was motivated by an anti-Muslim video The refusal of the White House to say what President Obama did the night of the attack

3. Watching the AP: The Justice Department performed a massive cull of Associated Press reporters’ phone records as part of a leak investigation.

4. Rosengate: The Justice Department suggested that Fox News reporter James Rosen is a criminal for reporting about classified information and subsequently monitored his phones and emails.

5. Potential Holder perjury I: Attorney General Eric Holder told Congress he had never been associated with “potential prosecution” of a journalist for perjury when in fact he signed the affidavit that termed Rosen a potential criminal.

6. The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme: Allowed weapons from the U.S. to “walk” across the border into the hands of Mexican drug dealers. The ATF lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which were used in crimes, including the December 2010 killing of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

7. Potential Holder Perjury II: Holder told Congress in May 2011 that he had just recently heard about the Fast and Furious gun walking scheme when there is evidence he may have known much earlier.

8. Sebelius demands payment: HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius solicited donations from companies HHS might regulate. The money would be used to help her sign up uninsured Americans for ObamaCare.

9. The Pigford scandal: An Agriculture Department effort that started as an attempt to compensate black farmers who had been discriminated against by the
agency but evolved into a gravy train delivering several billion dollars in cash to thousands of additional minority and female farmers who probably didn’t face discrimination.

10. GSA gone wild: The General Services Administration in 2010 held an $823,000 training conference in Las Vegas, featuring a clown and a mind readers. Resulted in the resignation of the GSA administrator.

11. Veterans Affairs in Disney World: The agency wasted more than $6 million on two conferences in Orlando. An assistant secretary was fired.

12. Sebelius violates the Hatch Act: A U.S. special counsel determined that Sebelius violated the Hatch Act when she made “extemporaneous partisan remarks” during a speech in her official capacity last year. During the remarks, Sebelius called for the election of the Democratic candidate for governor of North Carolina.

13. Solyndra: Republicans charged the Obama administration funded and promoted its poster boy for green energy despite warning signs the company was headed for bankruptcy. The administration also allegedly pressed Solyndra to delay layoff announcements until after the 2010 midterm elections.

14. AKA Lisa Jackson: Former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson used the name “Richard Windsor” when corresponding by email with other government officials, drawing charges she was trying to evade scrutiny.

15. The New Black Panthers: The Justice Department was accused of using a racial double standard in failing to pursue a voter intimidation case against Black Panthers who appeared to be menacing voters at a polling place in 2008 in Philadelphia.

16. Waging war all by myself: Obama may have violated the Constitution and both the letter and the spirit of the War Powers Resolution by attacking Libya without Congressional approval.

17. Biden bullies the press: Vice President Biden’s office has repeatedly interfered with coverage, including forcing a reporter to wait in a closet, making a reporter delete photos, and editing pool reports.

18. AKPD not A-OK: The administration paid millions to the former firm of then- White House adviser David Axelrod, AKPD Message and Media, to promote passage of Obamacare. Some questioned whether the firm was hired to help pay Axelrod $2 million AKPD owed him.

19. Sestak, we’ll take care of you: Former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel used Bill Clinton as an intermediary to probe whether former Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) would accept a prominent, unpaid White House advisory position in exchange for dropping out of the 2010 primary against former Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.).

20. I’ll pass my own laws: Obama has repeatedly been accused of making end runs around Congress by deciding which laws to enforce, including the decision not to deport illegal immigrants who may have been allowed to stay in the United States had Congress passed the “Dream Act.”

21. The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer: It’s not clear who hacked the CBS reporter’s computer as she investigated the Benghazi scandal, but the Obama administration and its allies had both the motive and the means to do it.

22. An American Political Prisoner: The sudden decision to arrest Nakoula Basseley Nakoula on unrelated charges after protests in the Arab world over his anti- Muslim video is an extraordinarily suspicious coincidence. “We’re going to go out and we’re going to prosecute the person that made that video,” Hillary Clinton allegedly told the father of one of the ex-SEALs killed in Banghazi.

23. Get rid of inconvenient IGs: Corporation for National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald Walpin was fired in 2009 as he fought wasteful spending and investigated a friend of Obama’s, Sacramento Mayor and former NBA player Kevin Johnson. The White House says Walpin was incompetent.

24. Influence peddling: An investigation is underway of Alejandro Mayorkas, director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, who has been nominated by Obama for the number two post at the Department of Homeland Security. Mayorkas may have used his position to unfairly obtain U.S. visas for foreign investors in company run by Hillary Clinton’s brother, Anthony Rodman.



www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/08/01/obama-dozen-scandals-counting/

Can't you imagine what APC would be saying if these happened in Nigeria in last 6 years?

ruffp:
Yea....the govt is selling itself:
monumental corruption;
insecurity;
lack of jobs,infastructure;
disregard for laws;
infact the list of wat ur govt is selling is endless.....forgive me if i choose not to buy!!!!

That's why we have elections. Put up your achiever and we will present Jonathan. Nigerians will decide, if your long list of allegations make any sense.

Just like Obama and his democrats, propaganda will only take you so far. The voters come to the voting booths and tell us, who is blowing smoke.

tit:
no sense.

Thanks

ruffp:
If a govt that has been in power for donkey yrs cannot sell itself strictly on achievements recorded,then there is no point arguing.....indeed by their "fruits" we know them!

The government is selling itself. Remember, its a free market, you are not compelled to buy what's been sold.

ruffp:
U clearly underestimate jonathan's dumbness!!!!

Jonathan dumbness has produced the strongest economy in Africa, the fastest growing middle class in the continent, and the only politician standing in Nigeria, after all attempts to sabotage and impede progress in this Nation. Yes, I have underestimated Jonathan's dumbness.

Ngwakwe:
Every Politics is local

Obama's greatest foreign policy export to Africa in Past 6 years has been gay rights. Cutting off aid to Nations, where their legislators vote against his agenda.

ruffp:
Question:Y r PDP supporters so quick to associate bokoharam with APC......

Answer: cuz they r experts at propaganda and the use of ethnic n religious sentiments to achieve desired objectives.

Moral: Nigerians are awake now and we wldnt be deceived into retaining a failed party in power.

By their fruits, we shall know them. We just call it as is.