Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 6:10pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Obiagelli: Uncle have you accepted you error/lies 1. Buhari paid $ 50 million in a few weeks 2. Buhari had something to do with the refinery 3. IBB and Sap was responsible for increase in debt not Buhari. Uncle accept, lets move on to your next thread. This is the fundamental problem with you people. Trying so hard to create events that never happened. What was Nigeria's debt profile in 1983, 84 and 85. What effect was your $50M as a percentage of our total debt. You people claimed Buhari BUILT 2 REFINERIES. Please prove that. That's what the OP put to rest as a fabricated lie. When did SAP come into effect? What was Nigeria's debt profile in 1984 and 1985. Madam, I take God beg you, you people cannot reinvent the past. |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 6:01pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Obiagelli: Did datolee counter any of the points i raised? You raised no point, please don't insult our common sense here. |
Politics › Re: Why Does Buhari Keep Running And Running For President? by atlwireles: 5:59pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Firefire: I understand that today is a bad market day for our friends from the covens of APC, but that should not make them just abandons their
beloved General-MB at this critical image denting time. The real fight has not began yet. Let's wait till 2015 January, they will flee from him like flies |
Politics › Re: Why Does Buhari Keep Running And Running For President? by atlwireles: 5:54pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 5:43pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Obiagelli: I will take this as guilt. You are right about truth and lies. Goodnite Look at this woman, are you reading this thread upside down. |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 5:18pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 5:17pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
My project come 2015, is print thousands of leaflets with this Buhari comments and give them away for free. You, almajiri refused to get sense in this country, you will be forced fed it. |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 5:12pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
datolee: You know, they won't tell us his "achievements" in education, employment, transportation, health e.t.c because they were retrogressive in his regime!
Sir, I leave you with this timeless piece "Buhari has no legacy as a former Head of State despite ruling the country with an iron-fist" Thanks for your perseverance. You have done something, non of us wanted to invest the time and resources in. This is simply fantastic. |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 4:51pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Obiagelli: I see you are now running from pillar to post
Nobody claimed nigeria's debt was $ 50 million Then, tell us what he paid off? |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 4:26pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Obiagelli: Can someone remind us how many jobs have been lost in the banking sector since 2000?
While you are at it, go and read Christopher Kolade report on the civil service and take a look at your recurrent budget. Long story, tell me how many middle class income earners your butcher of Nigeria fired in Ten months. Mostly living in Lagos, back in those days. |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 4:22pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 4:16pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Obiagelli: Datolee prove to me that $18 billion debt for 1985 had nothing to do with IBB and SAP. When did SAP start? Find that answer and your question becomes moot. |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 4:15pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 4:12pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Can someone remind me, how many civil servants, Buhari sacked between Jan 1984 and Oct 1984.  A. 150,000 B. 125,000 C. 100,000 |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 4:05pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 4:04pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Ultimately, when the Buhari government could not come up with any viable economic programme, it resorted to the politicization of its economic ignorance by selling the notion that the government was a bulwark against the imperialist Bretton Woods institutions. But that can only take you so far, because while fighting the international community and international financial institutions over differences in policies that could have been resolved with a better and more intelligent engagement with all national and international stakeholders, the austerity measures the regime introduced made it quite impossible for the manufacturing sector to procure raw materials in the face of the international capital market being closed against Nigeria. Industries were closing, left, right and centre and capacity utilization was below 18 percent and at every point, the government was seeking scapegoats for its woes in the form of politicians, illegal aliens, smugglers and currency traffickers, etc. But the reality was there for all to see in workers being retrenched in every sector and even in the public sector. I remember at the time how drastically our lives changed as university students as we dramatically witnessed the rise in the prices of fees, feeding, accommodation and procurement of books, even as the lack of these books became the norm. Inflation hit the roof and essential commodities became scarce. The regime’s key economic policy in response to all this was to resort to the medieval counter-trade economic policy. But this became the new corruption point for the regime presided over by the new import licence czar, Mahmud Tukur. Attempts by some bold journalists to report on the corruption in the counter-trade deals were met with unprecedented brutality. They were picked up and threatened with charges of economic sabotage as a warning to their other colleagues. https://www.nairaland.com/1980406/think-buhari-not-part-1983 |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 3:38pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
datolee: I really do not understand what you are trying to achieve here.. Barcanista who posted that video saw the flaw in it and refused to use it any further. I know you have made up your mind about Buhari, but please tell Nigerians the truth.
From the video you posted, $50 million was for payment of rescheduled interest... please, since when did payment of interest turn to payment of loan itself? what is $50 million to $15 billion Nigeria was owing at that time?
I had wanted to go into the fall out with IMF, but I will leave it for another time.. Just to give you some review about the IMF loan, SAP and payment of $50 million by Buhari.
You must know that in early 1980's the price of oil failed so low that Nigeria's economy was troubled, Shagari administration had to borrow to finance a lot of project, it get to a point, Nigeria couldn't service those loans, yes they wanted to borrow more money. IMF came up with a plan... "do this if you want more money or you forget about it" This condition was first rejected by Shagari.
When Buhari took over, he was presented with this same problem, so what he did was to use $50million to service the loan, to give the western financiers the impression that Nigeria can manage those, IMF still wasn't convinced and insisted on their conditions. Please skip the video to 2:44 - 2:56 I quote " The main worry for western financiers now is Nigeria's $15 billion worth of external debt, so today's prompt payment of $50 million dollars in rescheduled interest has pleased the city and helped the new regime economic prospect".
Since He cannot borrow from IMF, Buhari turned to the government of Saudi Arabia to borrow $1.8 billion, this loan was blocked by the USA just as they blocked arm purchase by GEJ.
Not knowing what to do, he did turn to Paris club to borrow some money, of course, he had to make some noise that we can service our loans... he ended up spending more money than any other government, servicing loan.
Now three things I must say here,
1. servicing loan is not the same thing as repayment of loans
2. Buhari did not make Nigeria a debt free country
3. By the end of 20 months regime, Nigeria's debt had increased from $15 billion to just under $18 billion QED  , you will make me start my drinking early today.  |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 3:18pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Obiagelli: Off topic, name one country that did wil with SAP That's not why you created this thread. Open a new thread, I will meet you there. Stick to Gen. Buhari aka, the butcher of Nigeria. |
Politics › Re: What Datolee Didn't Tell Us About Buhari by atlwireles: 3:06pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
juman: SAP from IMF was not a bad program but the useless military general IBB was totally insincere in implementing the program.
May God punish IBB for destroying our great country. I agree 100% with you on SAP. The implementation like most things in Nigeria was a total Joke. |
Politics › Re: This Is Why Republicans Won US Senate House. by atlwireles: 3:01pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
The same whites that voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012, don't like him now? |
Politics › Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by atlwireles: 2:53pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
ugomira: Yes...the brains behind the coup was Gen. Bako who was killed by shagari's presidential guard, if he had survived Gen. Bako would have become Head of State. For your info a plane was even sent to fetch GMB frm Jos(swallow that). Just as a plane was sent to London to pick up, Brigadier Murtala Mohammed, after the coup succeeded. Young man keep your lies to yourself. |
Politics › Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by atlwireles: 2:35pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Politics › Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by atlwireles: 2:29pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Politics › Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by atlwireles: 2:27pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
larryUG: Barcanista, do u really think u r more informed dan all of us here? salvaged which economy? Buhari may have wntd to salvage it, buh the truth is dt d he left the eonomy worse dan he met it, unemployment rose higher than buhari met it, recession of the economy rised. It is on Record that buhari clamped down on critics and journalists(of course u wont tell n/landers dt it was buhari dt arrested fela for speaking out). have u forgotten dt Buhari appointed Raffindadi(a civilian) to head the NSO ( national security Organisation) which he used to crack down on pple. the only thing dt buhari achieved was just to instill discipline (WAI), apart from dt, he didnt achieve his other aims. so barcanista we r not fools, i for 1 am not a fool. fgt about all these figures u r posting here tryn to confuse urself. it is either u r Lying or u r Uninformed/ignorant and as such u knw nfn bout fiscal policies and economics |
Politics › Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by atlwireles: 2:03pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
datolee: EldaTimba , Ngwakwe , Descartes, Apcontherun, firefire, Brownlord , Sunnybobo3, biafranqueen, truckpusher, theassassin, jujuboy, jesusiscoming , onionsoup, sweetgala, warripiken, Nigerianvenom, chukwudi44, priscaoge, tonte, xcolanto, millionboi, hairyanus, publisher, atlwireles, jamace, kalmax2,noblezone, tomakint, Idumuose , PhockPhockMan How did I miss this disgracing session of the APC lying machine. Datolee, you have done a wonderful service for this nation. |
Politics › Re: GEJ Meets Burkinaso Troops (pic) by atlwireles: 11:10pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
berem: go and drink the blood of the members of your family first.
Nkita ara! Your's is badly needed. |
Politics › Re: GEJ Meets Burkinaso Troops (pic) by atlwireles: 11:08pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
berem: gerrout joor! Blood sucking vampire like you. Your bloody is sweet, I need buckets of it to drink. |
Politics › Re: GEJ Meets Burkinaso Troops (pic) by atlwireles: 11:06pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
tbaba1234: There will be no life in Nigeria if we do not take this seriously NOW!! This is and should be the top priority of Government. Yes there will, boko haram needs Nigeria more, than you and I. They will not break their feeding bottle. They have a line they will never cross. |
Politics › Re: GEJ Meets Burkinaso Troops (pic) by atlwireles: 11:05pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
[s] berem: you're so wicked and heartless! God!!! When I say these saTANists are boko haram sympathizers,you gotta believe me. Just look at the nonsense this heartless animal is saying?
 [/s] Look for one of your fellow haramist and pound sand with them. I am SATAN, and I'm here to torment your miserable life |
Politics › Re: GEJ Meets Burkinaso Troops (pic) by atlwireles: 11:02pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
tbaba1234: I saw this but what is the authenticity of that story? The fact remains that the territory is not under Nigerian government control as it stands and that is as serious as it gets even if this story is true.
There are still many Nigerians living there. Sooner or later, the police and army will restore normalcy in Adamawa, till then, life in Nigeria moves on. |
Politics › Re: GEJ Meets Burkinaso Troops (pic) by atlwireles: 10:59pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
kskpoundz: & dis were u need to correct ur brain before ur children even ur grandchildren will start suffering from thesame brain malfunction When you see my children ask them the consequences of misbehavior. |
Politics › Re: GEJ Meets Burkinaso Troops (pic) by atlwireles: 10:54pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
tbaba1234: Really?? No one is asking Nigeria to standstill, we need decisive actions. Boko Haram controls territory in the Nigeria State bigger than many African countries.
If the police can handle it, they should be sent in then. This is a serious, serious situation and has to be treated as such. jtchukwu: The nigeria mobile police entered Mubi, armed with tear gas sent the terrorist scampering for safety. A MOPOL friend called us from Mubi informing us of this development. Meanwhile our students and residents trapped in Cameroon returned yersterday after the govt sent buses escorted by this MOPOLs to bring them back. The entry of this MOPOLs into Mubi is seen as a slap to the military, the views of people now in town is that MOPOL should now take over the operation of chasing away this terrorist. Nigeria has more serious problems, than the joke call boko haram. |