₦airaland Forum

POPE II: I know what a war is at least the definition.

My question was for the fellow who said that the NA won't line up any artillery.
If the aim of the,Ijaw war is secession he's wrong the NA will do everything to bring them back like they did with Biafra. The president swore to protect the,integrity of this country .
If their war is about resource control then this is another ball game
So again what is the aim of the Ijaw war ?

kettykin: War is simply politics continued in the battle field, if you understood Obasanjo's Motive for the inciting letter he wrote and published then you would understand what could trigger the Militants to action .

Issues ranging from an attempted coup to out rightly undemocratic subversion of the Government like APC is tying to influence to needless impeachment and gang up by legislators against the Jonathan Administration. i still think Nigerians learn no lesson from the first civil war just like the world learn nothing from the first world war.

Orlando Owoh: Do you know more than going from thread to thread trying to "unmask" those using multiple handles, and calling them Yoruba? May be you should try to meet so as to test his blood to know where he truly comes from as you suggested should be done to you.

onomeasike: 1) The Ijaws are minorities and they still have an exaggerated impression of their real population and geographical boundaries. (refer to their battles with original landowners in benin, warri, ilajeland etc and controversy over who is a real Ijaw for example people from where the president hail from are not historically regarded as Ijaws unlike Asari Dokubo who is from the real ijaw clans)



2) The Ijaws are seriously disadvantaged in terms of human and economic capital (most educated and wealthy Ijaws have a taste and lifestyle they believe is above the primitive settings of most ijaw clans and those currently stealing petro-dollars are stocking up arms for personal security/struggle for power and mostly investing outside ijawland )

3) The ijaw identity as a brand (like the igbo identity) is quietly assuming a negative perception that they may no longer be entrusted with sensitive national and security asset.

4) The ijaws are surrounded with people who will never support the ijaw in their struggle because they have been cheated or fought by the ijaw resulting to loss of lives and property ( the itsekiri, Benin, Ilaje, urhobo etc) will never be in a country to be dominated by the ijaw.

5) The ijaw cannot feed themselves due to paucity of land and the access to the sea can always be bombarded or barricaded (refer to the experience of the igbo during the Nigerian Civil War)

6) The ijaw have serious internal division and this current unity among their elite is temporary. Some ijaw communities have cheated one another in terms of oil well location revenue and they know same will continue in absence of a neutral arbiter (even within Nembe, there is historical enmity and unsettled scores between the two Nembe)

7) The ijaw have a system that promote laziness among the malefolks and most children are being catered for by their mothers whose wise counsel against war may prevail.

The ijaws are in serious economic poverty even right now let alone when there is war.The cost of consumables in ijaw communities is usually high because the expensive cost of water transportation of goods is usually built into the cost of goods (even ordinary sweet sold #5 costs #20 in far flung ijaw communities)

9.Ijaws lack health infrastructure and the casualties that may arise can not be handled by them.

10) They don't border any country like the Yoruba or northerners in the event that women and children have to move into safe camps or seek temporary asylum or secure alliances.

Finally, if there's any war, the battle ground is going to be ijawland!

What would be your advice to the ijaw if you are in their shoes?

barcanista: Mr Man, with due respect Asari and his exMilitants ilks are on their own, they don't have the authority of the masses.

Ijaw has many kingdoms, an Okrika man will not "heed to any war called by an Otuoke man or a Kalabari man IF Okrika survival is not threatened.
Same with other kingdoms.
The truth is most of the political class and "elder statesmen" are speaking for themselves.
In Ijawland we have Amayanabors for each kingdioms, each kingdoms also have clans and every clan has a Canoe House, the heads of each Canoe houses together with the Amayanabor decide when the people will go to war and the Heads of Canoe houses prosecutes the War. The war MUST be as a result of threat to the existence of the Kingdoms. Politicians and Vagabonds don't take decision for anybody.

Jonathan should concentrate on delivering his promises, he shouldn't let persona non grata like Asari to deceive him.


Once again Neither Patience nor Jonathan nor Asari nor Clark nor Sekibo etc has the power and authority to tell the Ijaw Nation what to do.

God bless Okrika Kingdom
God bless Ijaw Nation
God bless Nigeria
God bless the President

superstar1: bros you better calm down, you and I are irrelevant in this game. We can only make noise on NL. the major players know themselves, we only play along.

superstar1: The political cloud is still very murky. However, with the state of things as at today in SW, GEJ cannot boast of 5% of SW's vote, that i am very sure of. Except some people are deceiving him. this is not about any party or religious affiliations. SW people are more particular about performance and GEJ has not delivered in anyway.

Against 2015, the choice of opposition.s candidate will play a major role. there are 2 scenarios.

1. A NW or NC candidate and SS VP candidate
2. A NW or NC candidate and SW VP candidate.

Scenario 1 can guarantee Northern vote, divide SS vote and SW will depend on the choice of candidate
Scenario 2 will outrightly guarantee northern and SW votes, leaving GEJ with only SS and SE.

For Scenario 1 to fail in SW, opposition must have chosen Buhari has candidate. Even the combo of Jesus and mohammed cannot sell him to SW. He is seen as a religious bigot, though he appears to be upright. That is all about perception, that a good PR can change overnight.

Scenario 2 is given, SW will be secured by opposition.

GEJ's advantage in the game is that, he is the sitting president. However, he should not think massive rigging will be overlooked in the north and SW. The PR of the president is poor and his performance is well below par.

If he does not want to turn this country to Somalia, he should use the next 365days to deliver on his campaign promises. Not all those economic jargons being spewed by Okonjo, that does not translate into anything for ordinary Nigerians. we are talking of tangible achievements. This will go along way in appealing the masses in SW and no matter the political inclination, the vote will be divided. He also need to re-build burnt bridges very fast, so as to divide vote., if not, he is a goner.

Mr. President also needs to demonstrate he is the man in charge by fighting corruption, by having the charisma and mien of a leader. If he is a good man that surrounded himself with wolves and psychophants, they can only assist him to rubbish him and his administration and by so doing, the masses will turn away from the more. The more the masses are against you, the more it becomes difficult to rig. Ask any politician. You only rig where you are popular.

He has the right to contest and he should be allowed to exercise his right.

The final straw that may spell doom for this country, is the rigging of 2015. Even, if GEJ loses, its dicey. Either way we are threading a very curvy and slippery path. He who has ear, let him take heed. Let the year 2014 be a year of preparation for any eventuality in 2015 for everybody. if North wins, SS and maybe SE will be seen has their booty, which might incite another militancy in SS. SW actually holds the ace.

Going head long with the northerners always come at a price. Boko haram is one them. Others will come in as the election time approaches. SW taking power from them was not easy, it came with a price. That is why they respect us and see us as partners. Anyone that will also take them on must be willing to pay the price to be able to command their respect.

Lastly, always remember, there are no permanent friends or foes in Nigerian politics that lacks any recognisable ideology. At times, the vote is to the highest bidder.

Eurofighter: @eGuertilla "Spare me that lie. You are probably the same moniker called Eurofighter on vanguard forum or Gbawe. Below are your Herr Larr"

Oh!! lol!! If you make me Friskjy Larr it will be my greatest honor. If can write as truly as that man I would be happy for it! Thanks

One_Naira: For that to happen, someone has to falsify something somewhere. I could have sworn figures from any federal government about any state comes straight from the state. How one can differ from the other is a shame. Falsified information anyone? I thought GEJ administration have fixed all this but it seems there still some areas left undone....

@whole thread
I hate finals. See how I missed this thread, especially watching the @ss whooping as it occurs, Goddamn it. Well kudos the those on the page zero, kudos to majemedia, ochichido had me weak with laughter, chino literally killed me with laughter. Bleep all this noise, let me bombarded this thread with pictures..it speaks a thousand words. ( chino's mindset) hey chino, you are a little mean to the rest of your SE brothers that are not Anambra and you are extremely mean to SW people. Who are you nice to? Chei. You killed me.

eGuerrilla: You know sweet FA about what I know or don't know, so I suggest you hold your assumptions in check, and stay on theme.

eGuerrilla: Paranoia does terrible things to the mind

eGuerrilla: Great exchange of ideas so far.

-- http://friskylarr.com/about/

Sloan: I wonder how this post will lift Ibo states out of poverty and low IGRs. Why worry about Ibadan, Akure and Oshogbo, places that were city states and domain of the Great Yoruba Oyo Empire since the 1400s? Oyo today still has more land or about the same size of all 5 Ibo states and the IGR is in top 5 (without oil). Why don't Ibos face their own problems rather than chasing shadows?

geeez: How does this your ranting change the fact that Ogun's IGR is more than double Abia's which is the highest in the SE?

How does it change the fact that Osun has a higher IGR than Ebonyi, Enugu, Anambra and Imo?

How does it change the fact that Ekiti has a higher IGR than Enugu?

IGBO-SON:
^^^You mean those figures i'm seeing for Lagos, Cross River and Ogun are only for foreign debts, and local debts haven't even been added?

IGBO-SON:
So where did the 'rumour' come from that Imo is owing as much as 200 billion in debt?

Omo_Tier1: Again, you easterners are wallowing in self deceit. Whilst others are investing in heavily in education, you lots are busy playing ethnic cards and money bag politics.

Peter Obi spent 7years plus as governor in Anambra, yet He can not boast of a decent school in Anambra. Go to Edo State, the enrolment of kids in schools has increased because now parents are able to send their children to schools that can competite with the private ones in facilities and teachers.

Edo State is not there yet but we are matching on, and we will regain the glory that made Bendelites the symbol of academic excellence. [s]Those who are old enough would remember Ambrose Ali viz Awolowo's revive education.[/s]

Stop deceiving yourself about this nonsensical Igbo philosophy of governance. There is no such, all you have your leaders are visionless, spineless and are only there to feed fat on you!

A governor is suppose to have build several schools, hospital, water works, good roads, has failed, unable to account for the money and you are here telling us rubbish philosophy!

If this is the philosophy you people want to rule nigeria presidency with then you better stick to your villages.

FYI, and go check this out, Edo State has the highest number of institutions of higher learning in Nigeria #FACTS FEW KNOW.

MidasT: OOOOhhh my brother, God will bless ur so Much. I was thinking they taught me rubbish in the school i went to. OP, please explain in ur own skewed analysis when does Federal allocation becomes Internally Generated Revenue. And this ur report is contradictory to what was carried recently by majority of the reputable national dailies, that placed Lagos first, Rivers second, and Delta somewhere in third position. OP, i think u are HIGH on CRACK!

Sloan: Spot on! It's really gratifying to see Edo State up there...showing up the way on how a state should be viable! The IGR/Total Revenue is indeed very impressive! This is a more accurate way to measure who is "hardworking" and planning for their people and state. Carry go joor...see you folks at the TOP!

akposking: I try to figure out the meaning to your writeup and i can'nt seem to find any logical deductions from what u said above or let me say maybe u misunderstood what am trying to pass through via the above quote. Mind you am not a tribalism person and am not struggling with the "who is my brother and who is not" To me i take every Nigerian as a brother and a sister as deem fit. Talking about PDP winning the polls in sapele and okpeland u knw how and u would'nt want me to go further by explaining in details. And just to clarify further for you to say PDP zones their Delta state gov slot to North senatorial zone, that is the biggest joke.

kokoA: of course you people are found of supporting mediocrity that's why your states are still in very deplorable conditions even after collecting the highest share of oil revenues over the years. You guys can support your kinsman, we don't give a damn but let us see how only your votes will return him to aso villa.

ochukoccna: I find the above very comical/
So it is distractions that is causing GEJ to loot the national treasury of over $50 billion in under one year?
It is distractions that has shown him to be grossly incompetent in handling matters of state?
It is distractions that has elevated corruption to lurid heights under his watch?
It is distractions that make criminal elements like Asari Dokubo and Edwin Clark the unofficial mouthpieces of the SS?
You guys are in for a shocker if you think this criminal elements lacking vision can propel the SS into a paradise Eldorado
Africa is littered with the carcasses of many Asari types who rose up promising the people bread and ended giving them stones

akposking: Phenomenoh, thanks for pointing your views, going by your last statement and what i stress in my above artilce was why would some of our south south people be sentimental just blc he came from our geopolitical zone does'nt change the fact that we are going to always have the cake. Let me start by saying that the remover of fuel subsidy even affected the naija delta people the most. Yet most of us are blind to the fact rather than see through our eyes and listen to the voice of truth we let tribalism eat deep into us just because we feel the northerners e.t.c also want their brothers to rule. Though this a national problem. We all just need to embrace the truth so as to move forward.