₦airaland Forum

PDBonline:
Having said all, please answer my question: "Who is Jesus to you and what does Jesus' death on the cross mean to you?" Make it plain.

Jesus is human being sent by God. He is not God or son of God.

Iam responsible for my sin and I seek God forgiveness.

Original sin and Trinity are paganism concept. Pray that your creator should guide you.

Ifexxy:
from what u are saying, u mean dat d bible was edited...

Yes it was edited. Pure Jesus teaching was replaced with Pauline paganism. Huge contradiction in today Bible cannot be credited to Jesus. Paul literally hijacked Christianity.

In

Paul hijacked Christianity. He replaced pure Jesus teaching with paganism.

Jesus pure teaching is for mankind to worship only one God, as preached by Mosses, Abraham, Muhammed.

Paul teaching include paganistic idea like Trinity, original sin, begotten son and other weird concept that they attributes to mystery.

Paul hijacked Christianity. He replaced pure Jesus teaching with paganism.

Jesus pure teaching is for mankind to worship only one God, as preached by Mosses, Abraham, Muhammed.

Paul teaching include Trinity, original sin, begotten son and other weird concept that they attributes to mystery.

Paul hijacked Christianity. He replaced pure Jesus teaching with paganism.

Jesus pure is for mankind to worship only one God, as preached by Mosses, Abraham, Muhammed.

Paul teaching include Trinity, original sin, begotten son and other weird concept that they attributes to mystery.

Ifexxy:
paul

Not specifically addressing 'Islam and Muslim' I feel is the biggest and most obvious omission in the bible.

Bible only vaguely address historical perspective of Isaac, Ishmeal and Hagar leaving much to speculation. Like op here. Speculation like Muslim are Satanic, Antichrist, Catholic creation etc abound.

Islam is a religion of almost 1.8bn followers and fastest growing religion in the world. By next few centuries, Islam will be the biggest religion on earth.

Islam core message is worshing only one God and Abraham, Jesus, Mosses, Muhammad were sent by God to correct mankind. That Jesus is a creation of God not God, or Son or partner in divinity.

Century of bible editing left them with weird concept, like Trinity, Original sins, and stories that has no intrinsics value. E.g Jacobs wrestling with God and other absurd stories.

holatin:
Gud morning and happy sunday.
It has come 2 my notice that a lot of pastor now have bodyguard, and the only question dat crept into my mind is:

What is a pastor scared of?

Let go back to the time of jesus, even with how the pharisee,tax collector and idol worshipper hated him, he never resort to human protection but God's.

The reason for creatiing is to ask ur view concern pastor bodyguarding.

He reminded of Commando. A hardened criminal on the walk.

Alhamdulillah. May Allah guide them and admit them to Paradise.

NatureBoy91:
Is like Lalasticlala, Seun are afraid to read the truth, listen to it and share. Remember, it's better you didn't hear than to hear and ignore the Truth.

# Calling Jesus as God, son of God or partner to God is violation of first commandments.

Dpearlz:
I was wondering what he was trying to say.

Well, if my maths text book says so then I know it holds only the truth and I will use it.

In daily transaction 1+1+1=3
In Church 1+1+1=1Mystery.

Delusion at its very best.

Same habit, same con man, same tactics

It is a shame that FFK was was one time a minister.

It is a shame that FFK was one time a minister.

Kalatium:
Whatever

Do not prefer blindness over guidance.

plappville:
Ishmael Cursed?

The Angel of God gives a pronouncement about the child in Hagars womb.

(Genesis 16:10-12 ) 10 “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”


11 “You will give birth to a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the Lord has hear of your misery.”


12 “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Did God cursed Ishmael Seeing what is happening today. You will conclude that The so-called Arab people are cursed through Ishmael they kill others and also kill themselves. People hate them because they hate others. They like violence. Thier children live and grow up in a violent environment. They see nothing wrong in it. What exactly is this statement from God . Curse or blessing?

Hagar was in misery yet God curse Ismael..

What Ishmael did for God to curse him( innocent child)?
Did Ishmael curse also follow his decedent?

A just and loving God will not do that.

I believe this is one of those fabricated stories that made it into the Bible.

Jews committed more atrocities than any nation.

Who killed prophet sent by God?

Wealth and Nobel is not indication of being blessed. Pharaoh wealth and pyramids, Mosses left no pyramid. Mosses was successful and Pharoah was curse?

Quran and Big Bang Theory

“Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes; and He is the Knowing Creator. His command is only when He intends a thing that He says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” (Quran 36:81-82)

“Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, then We separated them, and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?” (Quran 21:30)

1. Basic Deception
2. Advanced Deception.

I assure you that we will support Yoruba candidacy anytime. Beside we have so much in common including intermarriage with SW.

I can only see pictures of white guys, most probably european.

The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. (3:59, Yusif Ali)

Jesus is no more than a messenger of Allah O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. (4:171, Yusif Ali)

Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! (5:575, Yusif Ali)

Jesus, Son of Mary, did not say to worship himself or Mary And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. (5:116, Yusif Ali)


And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. (5:46, Yusif Ali)

Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our messengers: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of Allah; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors. (57:27, Yusif Ali

The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (9:30, Yusif Ali)

Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. 35 It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. (19:34-35, )

And remember We took from the prophets their covenant: As (We did) from thee: from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary: We took from them a solemn covenant: (33:7,Yusif Ali)

Jesus was no more than a Servant When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)! 58 And they say, "Are our gods best, or he?" This they set forth to thee, only by way of disputation: yea, they are a contentious people. 59 He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel. (43:57-59, Yusif Ali)

When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear Allah and obey me. (43:63, Yusif Ali)

DoctorAlien:
Even the Jews knew that the word "Elohim" used in Gen. 1:26 is a plural word. Therefore, there couldn't have been only one person in the GOD Family.

And before you tell me that GOD was talking to angels, you have to provide a verse where it says angels were made in the image of GOD.

Did Jewish worship three Gods? Or only One God?

Your God is one God. Jesus as God or son of God or part of God is invented. Ten Covenant should at least include this weird concept. Beside the first and the most important covenant negated this concept- it tells us worship one God and ascribed no partner on to Him because He is a jealous God.

Did Abraham, Mosses or any good men of old pray to Jesus? They all prayed to God alone.

Or show me what Jesus(p)created, or did he create you and I?

Show where Jesus HIMSELF said he is God, son or privy to divinity.

Roman paganisms are included in Christianity- Paganistic concept are the wierd one which typical explanation are attributed to God mystery. Full devotion to anything require atleast good understanding of it.

Read widely and pray to ur creator to show u the way. Dying as Christian is more than terrible mistake.

Muslims=meaning the one who has surrendered himself to God.

Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian but he was true in faith and bowed his will to Allah’s (which is Islam) and he joined not gods with Allah(God). [b]Qur’an 3: 67[/b]

Jews have deviated from the path of Prophet Abrahim (p) by killing their very own Prophets send to them by God.
Christians have deviated form the One true Monotheistic religion of Abrahim ( p) by becoming Polytheists and making THREE GODS OF ONE TRUE GOD of Abrahim (P).

Please show me a SINGLE VERSE in the BIBLE which shows Prophet Abrahim(p) praying to GOD in the Name of FATHER , THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST or praying to ONE TRUE GOD IN THREE DIFFERENT FORMS or at least Show PROPHET MOSES TO WHOM GOD GAVE TEN COMMANDMENTS AND THESE COMMANDMENTS JESUS (P) HIMSELF FOLLOWED SO DID ALL HIS DISCIPLES , please show me a SINGLE VERSE in the BIBLE which shows Prophet MOSES(p) praying to GOD in the Name of FATHER , THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST , OR AT LEAST SHOW ME THE NAME OF JESUS(P) AND HOLY GHOST IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS WHICH WERE MEANT AS GUIDANCE FOR ALL THE 12 TRIBES OF JEWS OR ISRAEL , did God EVER say in the COMMANDMENTS to Jews worship GOD in the name of FATHER , THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST ?

O.K PLEASE AT LEAST SHOW ME IN THE BIBLE DID JESUS (P) EVER SAID I AM THE ONE TRUE GOD OF ABRAHIM(P) AND MOSES(P) OR AT LEAST SHOW THAT JESUS (P) SAID THAT THE HOLY GHOST IS THE ONE TRUE GOD OF ABRAHIM(P) AND MOSES(P) ?

We call ourselves Muslims ( meaning the one who has surrendered himself to God) because this is the real name given to a person who follows the ONE TRUE MONOTHEISTIC RELIGION OF PROPHET ABRAHIM(P) and this was the same name given to Abrahim(p) by GOD not Jews or Christians which are the self made names for followers ONE TRUE MONOTHEISTIC RELIGION OF PROPHET ABRAHIM(P) .

Worship your Creator alone without ascribing partners on to Him like Wife, daughter, Son or of His creation.

Worshiping Jesus is an invented concept. Beware! God does not shares divinity with any of His creation and your lord is jealous God.

Abraham and all good men of old worship only God. Worshiping Jesus is paganism for he was actually sent by God for mankind to worship their Lord.

Mememan:
You're such an irrational BASTÀRD.
You're very sick, senseless and clueless Christian.
I'm sure you even know very little about Christianity.
People like will never make heaven because you don't even know anything about the religion you're trying to defend.
Have you in your miserable life read the Quran before? How come you now know what is written in it.
Remain in your foolery and confusion forever.
Miserable BASTÀRD
Piss!

Please don't response to him or response to him in better manner. Your lord loves those that call other on to the path and He decides whom to admit to His mercy. Waste not your time responding to him, your lord is fully aware that conveys the message and you will be rewarded insha Allah with Jannatul Firdaus.

Mememan:
You're such an irrational BASTÀRD.
You're very sick, senseless and clueless Christian.
I'm sure you even know very little about Christianity.
People like will never make heaven because you don't even know anything about the religion you're trying to defend.
Have you in your miserable life read the Quran before? How come you now know what is written in it.
Remain in your foolery and confusion forever.
Miserable BASTÀRD
Piss!

Please don't response to him. Your lord love those that call other on to the path and He decides whom to admit to His mercy. Waste not your time responding to him, your lord is fully aware that conveys the message and you will be rewarded insha Allah with Jannatul Firdaus

naijadeyhia:
Let me break it down to you in a manner that even a 5yr old would understand.

The world is filled with any and everyones idea of what is wrong and what ir right. It would have been wrong for God to itemize all the dos and don'ts as it would still be laws.

Rather he opted to change the nature of man itself through His spirit. The spirit of God gives us an exegesis of His word in a manner that even when the same word isn't written in black and white we all as Christians have the same understanding that the Spirit of God is against it.

God does not need to itemize error but rather to fix the error filled man. When you are fixed from the inside then you can make right judgements and choices.

If even you as an individual know for yourself that at 12 or 15 you still do not understand much about life why then would you think your own child at such age would understand life? This is why you are an elder and should learn from your own life how to impact and raise your own kids.

I am refraining from using scripture most of the time when talking to you Atheists because it's foolishness unto you. So let your own life suffice.

If your opinion is that there is nothing wrong with child marriage then why seek the christians view when you have no plans of becoming a Christian or do you?

I should be the one asking you about your views on this since you all lack a single moral fibre in you. So pray tell..... what is your take on child marriage? Is it wrong or right to you as an INDIVIDUAL?

Pure guess work. Seek knowledge. Simply put Bible doesn't have the answer.

Smallville10:
D 3 commentators above me, its like ur head is not correct

May God guide you before it is too late to repent. Worship your Creator not His creation (sun, Moon, Jesus etc).

Idol worshipping at best.

Slikbae:
which Jesus? The one from your plagiarized religion of paedophiles?

Paganism. May God guide you on to the right path.

Slikbae:
I'm not on my own! You're obviously a Muslim so I don't expect you to agree. Every Christian in their right mind knows that God exists in three persons, Father, Son and Holy spirit. Jesus is God!

I believe in One God. No mystery.

They say: "Allah has begotten a Son". Glory be to Him! His is what the heavens and the earth contain; all things are obedient to Him. Creator of the heavens and the earth! When he decrees a thing, He need only say "Be", and it is.
—Qur'an 2:116

Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth; how can He have a son when He has no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
—Qur'an 6:101

RicardozRichard:
[b][/b]YES OF COURSE

I believe you are joking.