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Quran and Big Bang Theory

“Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes; and He is the Knowing Creator. His command is only when He intends a thing that He says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” (Quran 36:81-82)

“Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, then We separated them, and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?” (Quran 21:30)

1. Basic Deception
2. Advanced Deception.

I assure you that we will support Yoruba candidacy anytime. Beside we have so much in common including intermarriage with SW.

I can only see pictures of white guys, most probably european.

The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. (3:59, Yusif Ali)

Jesus is no more than a messenger of Allah O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. (4:171, Yusif Ali)

Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! (5:575, Yusif Ali)

Jesus, Son of Mary, did not say to worship himself or Mary And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. (5:116, Yusif Ali)


And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. (5:46, Yusif Ali)

Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our messengers: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of Allah; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors. (57:27, Yusif Ali

The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (9:30, Yusif Ali)

Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. 35 It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. (19:34-35, )

And remember We took from the prophets their covenant: As (We did) from thee: from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary: We took from them a solemn covenant: (33:7,Yusif Ali)

Jesus was no more than a Servant When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)! 58 And they say, "Are our gods best, or he?" This they set forth to thee, only by way of disputation: yea, they are a contentious people. 59 He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel. (43:57-59, Yusif Ali)

When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear Allah and obey me. (43:63, Yusif Ali)

DoctorAlien:
Even the Jews knew that the word "Elohim" used in Gen. 1:26 is a plural word. Therefore, there couldn't have been only one person in the GOD Family.

And before you tell me that GOD was talking to angels, you have to provide a verse where it says angels were made in the image of GOD.

Did Jewish worship three Gods? Or only One God?

Your God is one God. Jesus as God or son of God or part of God is invented. Ten Covenant should at least include this weird concept. Beside the first and the most important covenant negated this concept- it tells us worship one God and ascribed no partner on to Him because He is a jealous God.

Did Abraham, Mosses or any good men of old pray to Jesus? They all prayed to God alone.

Or show me what Jesus(p)created, or did he create you and I?

Show where Jesus HIMSELF said he is God, son or privy to divinity.

Roman paganisms are included in Christianity- Paganistic concept are the wierd one which typical explanation are attributed to God mystery. Full devotion to anything require atleast good understanding of it.

Read widely and pray to ur creator to show u the way. Dying as Christian is more than terrible mistake.

Muslims=meaning the one who has surrendered himself to God.

Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian but he was true in faith and bowed his will to Allah’s (which is Islam) and he joined not gods with Allah(God). [b]Qur’an 3: 67[/b]

Jews have deviated from the path of Prophet Abrahim (p) by killing their very own Prophets send to them by God.
Christians have deviated form the One true Monotheistic religion of Abrahim ( p) by becoming Polytheists and making THREE GODS OF ONE TRUE GOD of Abrahim (P).

Please show me a SINGLE VERSE in the BIBLE which shows Prophet Abrahim(p) praying to GOD in the Name of FATHER , THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST or praying to ONE TRUE GOD IN THREE DIFFERENT FORMS or at least Show PROPHET MOSES TO WHOM GOD GAVE TEN COMMANDMENTS AND THESE COMMANDMENTS JESUS (P) HIMSELF FOLLOWED SO DID ALL HIS DISCIPLES , please show me a SINGLE VERSE in the BIBLE which shows Prophet MOSES(p) praying to GOD in the Name of FATHER , THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST , OR AT LEAST SHOW ME THE NAME OF JESUS(P) AND HOLY GHOST IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS WHICH WERE MEANT AS GUIDANCE FOR ALL THE 12 TRIBES OF JEWS OR ISRAEL , did God EVER say in the COMMANDMENTS to Jews worship GOD in the name of FATHER , THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST ?

O.K PLEASE AT LEAST SHOW ME IN THE BIBLE DID JESUS (P) EVER SAID I AM THE ONE TRUE GOD OF ABRAHIM(P) AND MOSES(P) OR AT LEAST SHOW THAT JESUS (P) SAID THAT THE HOLY GHOST IS THE ONE TRUE GOD OF ABRAHIM(P) AND MOSES(P) ?

We call ourselves Muslims ( meaning the one who has surrendered himself to God) because this is the real name given to a person who follows the ONE TRUE MONOTHEISTIC RELIGION OF PROPHET ABRAHIM(P) and this was the same name given to Abrahim(p) by GOD not Jews or Christians which are the self made names for followers ONE TRUE MONOTHEISTIC RELIGION OF PROPHET ABRAHIM(P) .

Worship your Creator alone without ascribing partners on to Him like Wife, daughter, Son or of His creation.

Worshiping Jesus is an invented concept. Beware! God does not shares divinity with any of His creation and your lord is jealous God.

Abraham and all good men of old worship only God. Worshiping Jesus is paganism for he was actually sent by God for mankind to worship their Lord.

Mememan:
You're such an irrational BASTÀRD.
You're very sick, senseless and clueless Christian.
I'm sure you even know very little about Christianity.
People like will never make heaven because you don't even know anything about the religion you're trying to defend.
Have you in your miserable life read the Quran before? How come you now know what is written in it.
Remain in your foolery and confusion forever.
Miserable BASTÀRD
Piss!

Please don't response to him or response to him in better manner. Your lord loves those that call other on to the path and He decides whom to admit to His mercy. Waste not your time responding to him, your lord is fully aware that conveys the message and you will be rewarded insha Allah with Jannatul Firdaus.

Mememan:
You're such an irrational BASTÀRD.
You're very sick, senseless and clueless Christian.
I'm sure you even know very little about Christianity.
People like will never make heaven because you don't even know anything about the religion you're trying to defend.
Have you in your miserable life read the Quran before? How come you now know what is written in it.
Remain in your foolery and confusion forever.
Miserable BASTÀRD
Piss!

Please don't response to him. Your lord love those that call other on to the path and He decides whom to admit to His mercy. Waste not your time responding to him, your lord is fully aware that conveys the message and you will be rewarded insha Allah with Jannatul Firdaus

naijadeyhia:
Let me break it down to you in a manner that even a 5yr old would understand.

The world is filled with any and everyones idea of what is wrong and what ir right. It would have been wrong for God to itemize all the dos and don'ts as it would still be laws.

Rather he opted to change the nature of man itself through His spirit. The spirit of God gives us an exegesis of His word in a manner that even when the same word isn't written in black and white we all as Christians have the same understanding that the Spirit of God is against it.

God does not need to itemize error but rather to fix the error filled man. When you are fixed from the inside then you can make right judgements and choices.

If even you as an individual know for yourself that at 12 or 15 you still do not understand much about life why then would you think your own child at such age would understand life? This is why you are an elder and should learn from your own life how to impact and raise your own kids.

I am refraining from using scripture most of the time when talking to you Atheists because it's foolishness unto you. So let your own life suffice.

If your opinion is that there is nothing wrong with child marriage then why seek the christians view when you have no plans of becoming a Christian or do you?

I should be the one asking you about your views on this since you all lack a single moral fibre in you. So pray tell..... what is your take on child marriage? Is it wrong or right to you as an INDIVIDUAL?

Pure guess work. Seek knowledge. Simply put Bible doesn't have the answer.

Smallville10:
D 3 commentators above me, its like ur head is not correct

May God guide you before it is too late to repent. Worship your Creator not His creation (sun, Moon, Jesus etc).

Idol worshipping at best.

Slikbae:
which Jesus? The one from your plagiarized religion of paedophiles?

Paganism. May God guide you on to the right path.

Slikbae:
I'm not on my own! You're obviously a Muslim so I don't expect you to agree. Every Christian in their right mind knows that God exists in three persons, Father, Son and Holy spirit. Jesus is God!

I believe in One God. No mystery.

They say: "Allah has begotten a Son". Glory be to Him! His is what the heavens and the earth contain; all things are obedient to Him. Creator of the heavens and the earth! When he decrees a thing, He need only say "Be", and it is.
—Qur'an 2:116

Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth; how can He have a son when He has no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
—Qur'an 6:101

RicardozRichard:
[b][/b]YES OF COURSE

I believe you are joking.

crush20:
The son of God makes him a God as well, but he
is not the father.....God the Father, son and the
Holy spirit (trinity) your religion doesn't even know what d holy spirit is!! So I don't know why ur on dis tread...

Read what you wrote twice, please.

Does that statement honestly make sense?

I believe this weird concept of God was forced to you by your parent.

I believe you make no efforts to make sense of that Trinity

I believe you are scared of using your brain to examine what you believed.

You believe those question are mystery. Blind faith is not what God want from you. He gives u brain to thinks not only how to pass ur exam but more importantly how to understand Him.

MrPresident1:
Yes! Jesus Christ is the saviour of the world, Hallelujah!!!

Now we can understand this salvation in a dichotomy (2 ways)

1. Jesus Christ died to redeem Israel, the woman of God from the curse of the law.
2. Jesus died for the sins to the world to bring all mankind into the law hence into the promise that was earlier made to only Israel.


Jesus died to redeem Israel from the curse of the Law, how?
Israel, as a woman was God's wife. But she became caught up in serial adultery. According to the marriage covenant between God and Israel, according to the Law that was given at Horeb, adultery was an offence punishable only by the death of the offending partner. Israel, the wife of God, must die.

So, God incarnated in Jesus Christ and died in the place of His wife. The logic is, if a man's wife commits adultery and she has to die, but if the man now chooses to die in her place, she is no longer worthy to be put to death. Who is her accuser, against whom has she sinned? God the Father, incarnated as God the son, through God the Word. The Word incarnated in Jesus Christ, the Word is the software of God. And the Word is God.

Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, how?
The world practiced idolatry before the knowledge of God came. The world was guilty of sin, but not adultery because they did not have the Law, only Israel was guilty of adultery because she had the Law, but she engaged in idolatry which is adultery against God. The world needed only a lamb to wash away her sins. Jesus Christ is the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the whole world.

Jesus died to redeem Israel from the curse of the Law. Jesus Christ died to redeem all mankind into the Law and its promises.

Hence, Jesus Christ died to save the whole world.

Well package paganism!!

RicardozRichard:
so which version again dey .... JESUS is the foundational root of Christian religion.. how can you believe in Him and not believe in Christianity .. You shouldn't take it upon yourself to just believe any thing any man tell you about him be it good or bad until you have seen it to be truth in the book THE BIBLE

Is Bible errors free?

Jesus didn't come with any strange message to mankind. He called mankind to worship God alone just like Mosses, Abraham etc. and do goods to your self and fellow creature.

What astonished men of old are his miraculous birth and miracles he did by God command. However, Adam was born without either father nor mother.

Adam, Eve, Jesus, you and me are creation of God. So worship not His creation but worship the Creator without ascribing divinity to creation and that is the right religion.

Jesus or any other prophet never call mankind to worship them nor are they privy to divinity.
Example only God knows the day of Judgement.

Empiree:
that's why he came to begin with? but he was crying like a frustrated chimpanzee to his father when the nails pained so much

Empires, brother.

We as Muslim need to respond with good word and give utmost respect to God and all His messengers, Jesus inclusive. Response to those that seem sincerely searching for the truth and ignore those ignorance on this platform.

Salam

buchilino:
OP, KINDLY TELL ME D DIFFERENCE BY JESUS N GOD.

God is the creator of every thing, Jesus inclusive.

Jesus is a messenger of God. He is not God, not son of God or Trinity.

Worship God alone and respect all the God messengers, including Jesus

Slikbae:
Jesus is God!!

This is what happens when you don't study on your own. In Hebrews 1:8 God the father called Jesus God. The bible says all things were created by Him and for Him. Jesus is God in the flesh. Just like man also exists in trinity that is the spirit, soul and body. So also God exsits in trinity (God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit.) If God himself says they are one, who are you to say otherwise??

You are own your on this one. Jesus didn't create me nor did he create heaven and Earth. I bear witness that there is nothing worthy of worship other than God and I bear witness that Abraham, Mosses, Jesus, Muhammad and all messengers were sent by God. I ascribed no partner to God and I totally surrender myself on to Him alone.

stonemasonn:
If you understand the meaning of Jesus the savior of the lost sheep of Israel and by extension the world then it shouldn't be hard for you to believe as a Muslim. He might just be saying that he has come to steer us away from eternal damnation to the right path and this is achieved through spread via evangelism, missionary work etc. you don't need to be in everywhere to be spread your teachings you know, just start with a band of followers.

Jesus came to preach to worship God alone and associate no partner (s) to God.

Jesus teaching are universal in relevance just like Mosses, Mohammad etc.

Jesus never claimed to be God or son of God or Trinity.

When in need of anything, called your God alone. He hears and will answer your prayer.

Do not call Jesus or any creation of God. None hears and answer prayer except God. Call Jesus one million time your prayer will not be answered. Just test it.

I have no reason to believe in Christianity as a religion.

I believe God created me not Jesus, so l worship God alone not his creation. God is not in divinity partnership with any of His creation.

I believe that Jesus existed. And born without father like I believe Adam was born without father or mother.

I believe Jesus is a human being favoured by God to only convey the message that mankind should worship God alone. He Jesus ascribed no divinity to himself or his mother. Men of old invented such strange concept like weird Trinity, Jesus is Son or Jesus is God.

I believe if I die today, my ultimate return will be to my creator and not Jesus or any of His creation. And I hope God will admit me to His mercy and forgive my shortcomings.

I believe mankind are born sinless and repentance, charity and good work is what God demands of us not blood sacrifice. God is not a tyrant to His creation.

See my response to blood sacrifice and sin atonement below. Though you did not respond to my earlier question.

1. God accepted Adam prayer for forgivenss

“Then Adam received Words (of forgiveness) from his Lord, and He accepted his repentance. Verily, He is the One Who repeatedly accepts repentance, the Most Merciful.” (Quran 2:37)

2. Assume God did not accept Adam prayer per above. You alone is entirely responsible for your sins.

“…No person earns any (sin) except against himself (only), and no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another…” (Quran 6:164)

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” (Deuteronomy 24:16)

3. God demand repentance.

Say: ‘O My slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of God, indeed God forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.’” (Quran 39:53)

4. God needs not blood.

It is neither their meat nor their blood that reaches God, but it is piety from you that reaches Him...” (Quran 22:37).

Now you are free to select whichever ever way you want.
Would continue to embrace paganism with your two eyes open ? Or would you submit humbly to your Creator by worshipping Alone ?

Thank you very much for not using insults in all our conversations.

Good luck and bye bye.

Originakalokalo:
Blood is not required for the remission of sins. Dats one of the things you said.....u then mentioned Moses, Abraham, etc. How did they atoned for their sins? Through the blood of animals...... they did sacrifices... since you believe in all these people, how do u intend to atone for your sins? thro d blood of animals?

Let us just consider below question
If ur first child offended you and he sincerely seek ur forgiveness, wouldn't you forgive him? Would you slaughter the second child to atone the sin of the first child?

Thus the first child get off scot free, and is at liberty to ONLY accepts second child death for him to live happily to eternity. God is not unjust.

Will a just and a loving father do that let alone our Creator? God is All-merciful and All-forgiving not a tyrant to His creation. To be forgiven, repent sincerely with humility to your maker, give charity and do good works. He requires no blood of His creatures. Beside God does not require Human being perfection to admit them into paradise . He only requires surrendering to Him and trying your best to please Him with righteous work and not blood.

God destroyed generation of old for not believing in Him, repenting and doing right. No people were destroyed for not shedding blood for Him.God sent prophets to tell mankind to seek forgiveness of their sins.These are some of those things coopted to Christianity by Pauline Christian.

Many ancient and African cultures, promoted same idea about atonement as Christendom still preach today (e.g Molech). To date, ritualist consider child or virgin offering as more befitting to appease their gods. They believed that child and virgin commit no iniquity.

May He keep us on the right path.

Indeed, those who abuse Allah and His Messenger - Allah has cursed them in this world and the Hereafter and prepared for them a humiliating punishment. Quran

Dear Pagan9ja.

So long you are still alive means that you have still a window of opportunity to reconnect with your Creator.

Your creator, the creator of your forefathers of old, is the same creator of the heaven and earth and that which is between them. That Creator is God who is the absolute One who begets not, nor was He begotten and there is nothing comparable to Him.

Worship not His creation(e.g. Sun, Moon, Stars, Idols or Jesus) but worship God ALONE by surrendering to Him alone and doing righteous deeds and avoiding all that is evil. Be not rebellion to your Creator, the merciful, whom your soul will ultimately return to one DAY.

Know that Pagan9ja, God will resurrect you after your death and He will reward you on that you have done of good or punish you if you remain rebel to Him. You are created in your mother's womb without knowledge, not free to choose your own shape, attributes or location. We are all born without knowledge about ourselves or the world that surrounds us. It is the Creator Who decides, man has no say in this matter - whatever we possess is from the favors of God. I am telling you this with all humility and sincerity. And this is not a fairy tale of the men of old.

God hears and knows all, so call on Him with utmost respect and sincerity to guide you and remit your evils deeds.

Quran.

Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful. And return [in repentance] to your Lord and submit to Him before the punishment comes upon you; then you will not be helped.

We are not yet a lost generation, the choice is ours now.

Your God is one God bros. It is He ALONE that created Heavens, Earth and our forefathers. So worship Him alone without partner(s). Men of old were destroyed for worshipping other than Him(pharaoh, folks of Noah and many nations).

Worshipping Jesus in whatever form is simply the modern paganism. Jesus was indeed created without father but Adam was created without father or mother.
Your God requires no blood to foregive our sins, so call on Him with sincerity He will answer you. God gave you brain to use not to suspend it (Trinity).

Or did Abraham, Noah, Mosses and all chosen men of God worship Jesus? Jesus divinity is invented by collapsed Roman empire. Follow Roman or your parents paganism at your TOTAL LOSS.

Abraham, Mosses, Jesus, Muhammad and all chosen men of God worship one God alone by total surrendering to our creator through obedience to Him.

So do not call anybody other than your Creator or you will be among the dwellers of the Hellfire.