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ISelectMySins:
No sir, this is a weak defense for why the book of Daniel is not foretold/retold/explained or even mentioned in the Quran. A mere acknowledgement of his prophet-hood or otherwise as is done for others who are only mentioned once, twice, or even three times might suffice. Just coming up with a blanket reason that indicates divine sovereignty is lame. If I tell you that God chooses what he chooses and he has chosen that I remain a Christian, should that be taken as a reasonable explanation by a Muslim apologist who wants me to embrace Islam to back off? No. God is sovereign in the affairs of men, granted, but this is so silly. Every act of God must never be swept off the carpet and made to look as if it never happened. If certain characters of the Quran are only mentioned once, then why should this be taken as a reason why Daniel wasn't mentioned at all? Do you understand me?



Here, you have posited a problem that is no problem at all. If the Quran mentions prophets that are not in the bible, it is because the books that talk about such prophets are in doubt and hence were not canonized. They can still be used for instructions as the Catholic church does for some books, but they are not authoritative.The Quran definitely has its source; these non-cannoized books are its source.

The infancy Gospel of Thomas (which in mainstream Christendom is taken for an apocryphal) mentions with great clarity the situation surrounding Christ birth and his infancy. These non-cannoised books have been written several hundred years before Muhammad was born and he used them as his source. If these books were canonized, they would have certainly being an addition to the Christian bible today, but there are many manuscript floating around. Do you know how many books are not parts of Christian canon and yet Muhammad consulted these books?

Just because you have more details on certain subjects doesn't make it reliable. The Jewish and Christian communities rejected a lot of books. A lot. Quite a lot. Some, because of its heretical and esoteric nature, some because the writers wrote it under a different name, some because of its content and many other reasons I have not bothered to study the subject. Do you know the number of scriptures that Christians and Jews in days gone by accept as part of scripture that is ruled to be defective today? Do you know? Ah, it would blow your mind. The prophet of Islam consulted these books and granted some of these books are quite efficacious.



If i don't use the Bible as an objective source, what else would I use? You know and me and you agree that the Bible, let me be a bit specific, the Hebrew bible which we call the Old testament had been completed more than 900 years before Muhammad was born. Now, I want to learn. If we want to validate the Quran, what should we use? The Quran? Of course not, we cannot use the Quran to validate the Quran; it has to be something else. it doesn't have that authority, but I ask again, what should we use?

1. In Islam, God is supreme and He is owner of wisdom. He decides what to include as message to mankind.

2. Quran is a message from Allah, not Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or any human being. It is free from errors and a guide for those who preserve them from evil and follow the straight path.

3. Stories in the Quran are for lessons. Not just a mere story.Quran specifically acknowledged that not all prophets were included.

4 Muhammad(Pbuh) is not the author of Quran. He was never being to school.

5. Some of the bible manuscript were not accepted. The Quran is complete and the same through out the world. One version. Which of the bible version will you regard as criteria.

6. My intend is to help to those that sincere only. Not here for argument

Allah chooses what to include in His book. Some Prophets in the Quran are not in the bible. Jesus infancy is scantily mentioned in the Bible but detailed in the Quran.

Holy Quran is different from the Bible and using Bible as criteria to validate Quran is wrong approach. You explicitly assumed Bible as standard criteria (Confirmation Bias) for which to judge Quran.

Set your objectives of studying Quran and be wary of your innate bias.

Major disaster facing humanity are: Climate Change, Israel uncanny love for blood shedding and extreme poverty.

Myhusband:
many northern Muslim need to be admitted in psychiatric



one time you will say prophet Muhammed (SAW) told you not to dine with unbelievers, another one you will be calling Islam religion of peace



I'm very sure if prophet Muhammed (SAW) is alive, he will forsake many of you uncivilized people from that North



you're practising Islam yet terrorism is growing in North, banditry is growing, Islam teaching couldn't reduce child marriage, children out of school, child labour and child begging. Prophet Muhammed (SAW) should be ashamed of all Northern Muslims

Some of your observations are valid and germaine. The decay is due to negation of Islamic values and forceful conflagration of tradition with the religion.

However, blanket condemnation with subtle tribal bias is not appropriate as Muslim. Be firm on your religion, you are on right path insha'Allah. We need to impress Allah only. Only disbelief in Allah will impress the Christian and their cohort. May Allah bless you.

As a Muslim on this platform, I see Christian poorly representing many of the good teaching in the bible. Their comments and behaviour seems in complete negations of what they professed. I see nothing to emulate from Christian apologists.

Atheist pain points should be addressed with facts and respect not condemnation.

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Righteousness2:
Very foolish move from SA leadership.

Make no Mistake!!
GOD ALMIGHTY foreign policy is pretty simple!

You Bless ISRAEL, You are Blessed!
You Curse ISRAEL, you are Cursed!

Genesis 12:1-3
Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Any wise Nation or person that has understanding of the times and Seasons will stand with Unshakeable with ISRAEL.

GOD will Deal ruthlessly with all nations that stand against the Apple of HIS eyes.
Nations and people should go read the book of Joel in the Holy Bible.

Common sense is not common

Agertha:
Saw this news earlier today. Must give credit to their security agencies on swift response. However, until they stop granting asylum to Islamic terrorists, this will continue to happen

He is Syrian Christian.

riczy:
which one is Muslim pogba again, hey God!

Pogba was a Christian who much later convert to Islam following his research about the faith. He admitted to becoming a better human being due to Islam.

This looks like CAN. One of those association that further polarised this beautiful country.

This is one of finest Igbo man(Umahi) I can trust with my vote regardless of his party.

Note: Iam a Muslim from Zamfara.

We can't vote for someone who is fanning hatreds and divisions along religious lines. Put Dave Umahi, Okorocha and not OBI.

To love goodness is part of human innate nature.

Tinubu or Atiku, head or tail. Here in the north we are fine with either. May Allah choose for us a good leader.

There are lots of bad Governors around but Zamfara State Governor stand shoulder high on Failure.

Islam doesn't allow road obstruction and even mosque can be demolished incase of road obstruction or road widening work.

What we are doing as Muslim, in this regard, is not correct.

garfield1:
But pdp is very weak,how can its candidate win?
Can tinubu get 70% in zamfara? Where in zamfara are you?
What will atiku and kwankwaso poll

1. PDP: Party affiliation may not triumph over common sense. The Governor squandered all pockets of goodwill that his emergence bequeathed to him.
2. Tinubu may win Zamfara but I can't speculate margin.
3. You don't need to know my location.

Currently in Zamfara for a break. My observations and informal opinion poll indicate that:

1. Matawalle may soon join the former Governors club. His poor performance will cost him his seat. The PDP flag bearer is having more reception with the poor.

2. APC Presidential candidate is very much known and fairly accepted by large swarth of the population here.

3. Mr.Peter Obi has no footprints � and essentially unheard and literally unknown.
4. May Allah SWT give us the best leader as we don't know

This is very sad. I watched with complete shock how some Christians are literally delighted over the killing of a fellow human being. Atleast where is the humanity? Is that what Christianity teaches?.

Whichever religion made you to relish killing of life of human beings regardless of race, creed, tribes or any other sentiments then that religion is Satanic cult.

AsampeteNwaanyi:
it can only be Christians.
showing Christ love to humanity even to the people that despises them and call them infidels.
just like Christ showered his love to everyone.
but you'll see bastard nairaland Islamic terrorists bringing old testament like if Christians follow it judiciously like they claim there will be any refugees.

if you're Muslim and after seeing these kind gestures by so called infidels and still hit your head on ground and shout allah akubomb, then you're nothing but a bastard terrorist.
I wonder why someone that call himself educated will be practicing something against humanity
something against science
something against civilization
something against education

Islam is nothing but a mighty plague against humanity
flee from it NOW

I hope you know these people are not Christians at all.

sylvanus190:
Why is it that the northerner are the one calling for one Nigeria, while other region want to disengage.

You are expressing opinions not fact.

Why 63? Why not 50 or 70? Who directed the Fasting, God, Bible or Adeboye? Why January not March?

Jesus was sent by Allah to preach to Children of Israel to avoid false worship and worship only Him alone.

However, Jesus as a God, Son of God or Trinity are all blatant lies.

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this is disappointing.
I expected u guys to shed light on ur beliefs.
after all, I thought spreading ur faith was one of ur duties?
stop dulling o.
make una bring answer, shapali.

What is the essence of responding. You can't be asking questions and drawing your conclusions at the same time.

Justice demands that you don't paint a whole tribe bc of Gabriel sin. Gabriel is responsible not his tribe.

This is a sign from your Lord, avoid these liars and run to Allah. There is no God but Him, creator of you and your forefathers, the Most merciful.

The wrongdoers and their gullible followers will have a mutual accusation on their path to hell fire.


They will turn on each other, throwing blame. The misled will say, "It was you who deluded us away from what is right. The misleaders will reply, "No! You disbelieved on your own.We had no authority over you. In fact, you yourselves were a transgression people. QURAN

These Pastors couldn't even see COVID 19 in March 2020!

The celebration doesn't belong to Christians to start with. The atheist and Pagan are the original owner.

Do some research to unbundle the package sold to you as religion.

Nickshrapnel:
I’m not saying it’s bad or something, I just find it really funny that you’d refer to him as The Atheist

No harm intended at all.

Martinez39s:
@Cococandy

I hope I am not late to the party. When it comes to understanding a religion, it's best to read the holy book by yourself. While it superficially makes sense to consult the self-proclaimed adherents of the religion, you should have it in mind that each adherent has his/her own "interpretation" of the Qur'an. The "interpretation" a moderate Muslim born and bred in a secular society will give you will differ from that of a Muslim born and bred in an Islamic society. Some "interpretations" paint Islam as a religion of peace while others do the opposite. To avoid being misled by any Muslim's personal interpretation, I will advise you to do your own research and read the holy book for yourself. Your research should focus on the history of Islam, its Prophet, and holy book; find out what scholars think.

A lot of muslims come about their interpretations in any of the following ways:
1) ignorance and presumption of the Qur'an due not having read it or blatant dishonesty,
2) cherry picking (picking the good parts only), and/or
3) complete understanding and submission to the entire doctrine and scriptural injunctions of the Qur'an.

This is also applicable to Christians.

Regardless of how any Muslim came about his/her own "interpretations", it's best to do your own research and read the Qur'an by yourself and formulate your independent thoughts on the matter.

Nb: I am an atheist. I am encouraging the best approach of inquiry.

The atheist has said the truth.

The best place to start that search is read the Quran with open mind. I mean put your brain and mind to it and ask questions. Allah created the brains for us to think.

If you are interested to have copy of English Qur'an and you live in Abuja please do let me know.

Martinez39s:
@Cococandy

I hope I am not late to the party. When it comes to understanding a religion, it's best to read the holy book by yourself. While it superficially makes sense to consult the self-proclaimed adherents of the religion, you should have it in mind that each adherent has his/her own "interpretation" of the Qur'an. The "interpretation" a moderate Muslim born and bred in a secular society will give you will differ from that of a Muslim born and bred in an Islamic society. Some "interpretations" paint Islam as a religion of peace while others do the opposite. To avoid being misled by any Muslim's personal interpretation, I will advise you to do your own research and read the holy book for yourself. Your research should focus on the history of Islam, its Prophet, and holy book; find out what scholars think.

A lot of muslims come about their interpretations in any of the following ways:
1) ignorance and presumption of the Qur'an due not having read it or blatant dishonesty,
2) cherry picking (picking the good parts only), and/or
3) complete understanding and submission to the entire doctrine and scriptural injunctions of the Qur'an.

This is also applicable to Christians.

Regardless of how any Muslim came about his/her own "interpretations", it's best to do your own research and read the Qur'an by yourself and formulate your independent thoughts on the matter.

Nb: I am an atheist. I am encouraging the best approach of inquiry.

The best place to start that search is read the Quran. If you are interested to have copy of English Qur'an and you live in Abuja please do let me know.

Adeboye couldn't convert her to false worship. Allah is Supreme Almighty.

The amount of wealth and private jets is far from being successful and poverty is not a negation of Allah to his servants but a test.

Pharaoh left Pyramids and enormous wealth and Mosses left no worldly trace.

Pharaoh's abode is Hell. Both Moses and Asiyat abode is paradise.

May Allah reward her the highest level of Jannah.

Just like Asiyat, the wife of pharaoh who resisted false worship and paganism as championed by Pharaoh. The Asiyat of our time resisted false glitters and the Pastor Adeboye.

May Allah reward her with Jannatul Firdauz.

You are free to write your wishes and fancies.

True Christianity is

1. To worship Allah, offering Him sincere devotion, being true (in faith);

2. To establish regular prayer;

3. And to practise regular charity; and that is the Religion Right and Straight.

Wrong path are: worshipping Jesus, Mary and other gamut of inventions.