₦airaland Forum

Ranchhoddas:
It's simply because Nairaland atheists are mostly former Christians. If this were a Saudi forum, the atheists would attack Islam more. Ditto for other atheists who were adherents of other religions.

JideAmuGiaka:
Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Do you believe this?.

JideAmuGiaka:
He did not but He strengthened it in the new testament that's why you can't see Christians kill for Jesus.

KingEbukasBlog:
I believe in the God of creation . Religion simply creates different doctrines and concepts about this God of creation . So the contentious issue should be which religion portrays the true nature of God.

JideAmuGiaka:
There's huge different between old and new testament of the Bible. Don't forget that the old testament dwells much on the law, that's eye for an eye. But when Jesus came, all this changed. As you have quoted from the old testament I will also like you to balance it with new testament. Moreover, you can't see anywhere in the world where Christians will be killing any one now for blasphemy as we have Seen many people killed by Muslims because of blasphemy.

PastorAIO:
[size=13pt] How sad! [/size]

Charlentine:
I worship God, the Master of the universe, whomever he is. I may be wrong; he might be the same God. But at least I have an open mind about it

EyeHateGod:
M Not denying The Fact that the Word Allah Translate to God in Arabic...

@bolded is Wrong.. The Hebrew Translation of God is [b] El and Elohim simply means Gods..
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When did this pure monotheism of Islam start?

And behold! Allah will say: ‘O Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say to men, worship me and my mother as gods besides Allah?, He will say: “Glory to you, I could never say what I had no right (to say). (Quran 5:118)

Nor did Jesus worship himself when he worshipped, but rather he worshipped God. And Jesus was reported in the Gospels to have said, “It is written: [b]‘Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’ (Luke 4:

EyeHateGod:
Yeah they knew Allah as a supreme God but they didn't worship it but worship other personal idols

dalaman:
Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus do not know any Allah. Allah is the invention of Mohammed and his cronies.

i thank you all for your care and taking your time to explain things to me, this thing has been happening to her since she was little, especially if she sleeps alone and it happens mostly in the afternoon. I asked my mum and she said she used to experience it when she was young and that it is a witch pressing.I kind of doubt if it is witchcraft though. i don't want to believe a witch is after somebody

i thank you all for your care and taking your time to explain things to me, this thing has been happening to her since she was little, especially if she sleeps alone and it happens mostly in the afternoon. I asked my mum and she said she used to experience it when she was young and that it is a witch pressing.I kind of doubt if it is witchcraft though. i don't want to believe a witch is after somebody

EyeHateGod:
@Auki do you know that Allah wasn't actually worshiped until Prophet Muhammad came into the Scene?

EyeHateGod:
@Auki do you know that Allah wasn't actually worshiped until Prophet Muhammad came into the Scene?

GrizzlyBear:
The adjective form of the noun Myopia is - Myopic.
Myopic means shortsighted. In the context of the premise of this thread, what I mean by myopic is the inability to see or reason beyond a limited or constrained scope.

Christians and muslims are not just myopic in their thinking, but also in their perception of their environment. Within this myopia, there is also a thread of selfishness that runs through it.

When one examines the beliefs of these people, one would notice that it's constrained to a limited radius. These people actually believe that the world and everything in it exists solely for the manifestation and fulfillment of their beliefs[/i]. They believe that everything that preceded the origin of their beliefs was designed to culminate in the birth and progress of their beliefs. In my opinion, this represents a huge problem. Because if anyone can reason this way, then I don't think such a person is intellectually competent to handle any position that requires reasoning.

Think about this. Christianity and Islam are roughly 2000 years old. Their mother religion, Judaism, is 6000 years old. The earth is over 4 billion years old. Biological species have existed since 3.5 billion years ago. Let's say humans didn't evolve from apes, okay. Let's just say the first humans miraculously originated from dust, since to religious people, this a more sensible and plausible explanation for our origin. Evidence from anthropology and paleontology suggests that modern humans have been existing for at least 60,000 years. But for the sake of most religious folks who believe that science is lying about this, let's say that modern humans have been existing for the past 10,000 years. No person with a functioning brain and a history textbook would argue against this.

Now, going by this agreed, needless hypothesis, it means that humans have been existing 4000 years or so before God decided to show himself to man. Now, this is the point where the myopia of religious people begins to unfold. Biological species have been existing for the past 3.5 billion years. This value shouldn't cause an argument. It's a scientific fact. If you deduct 6000 from 3.5 billion years, it wouldn't make much difference. It would still be a well over 3 billion years. Consider the amount of species that have existed throughout this time. Consider the genetic defects. Consider the deaths that have occurred. Consider the fact that 99% of every organism that ever existed throughout this time have gone extinct.

Religious people actually believe that all this happened so that it would pave a way for their religion to be established. Because when you think about it, life is like a domino. Everything that we are currently experiencing, was formed in a crucible of prior causes. So according to religious people, all the animals that died and all the pain they experienced was for the survival of a particular specie of that could be domesticated and sacrificed to a God, who surprisingly, liked the scent of their burning skin.

Now let's leave the animals and come to humans. Bear in mind that for the sake of ignorance, we are using the 10000 year old hypothesis. Now imagine what the humans species had to pass through between the year 10000BCE and 6000BCE. Humans at that time were hunter gatherers, moving aimlessly from place to place. An important question has to be raised at this point. Where was God then? Why didn't he show himself to these people then? Why did he have to wait 4000 years to do this? [i]

Now lets consider the lives of these early humans. They didn't have sophisticated weapons then. All they had were crude tools. Definitely a lot of them would have died and lost their children to wild animals and harsh weather conditions. Religious people believe that all this happened just to pave a way for the manifestation of their religion.

Fast forward 6000 years into the future. It's 4000BCE. God has already appeared to the Jews. But the religion is solely theirs. The creator of the universe decided to choose a particular branch of humanity to bestow his love and care, while ignoring the remaining sect of his creations. Christians and Muslims also don't see anything wrong with this. I don't even think that their thoughts have ever wandered towards this space of thinking. So while the whole world was wallowing in darkness, the creator of the universe decided to show his light only the jews[/i]. Wow. It had to take 4000 years before he'd establish his true intentions by sending his son Jesus to the earth to die, or in the Islamic system of belief, Mohammed to be divinely inspired to pen the quran.

Now just examine the above. Does this make any sense? Our universe is about 13.8 billion years old. God, the creator of the universe, decided to wait for 13.8 billion years before he'd reveal his true intentions for creating it. Then probably less than 2500 years later, going by the whole christ is coming soon mantra, he'd destroy it. Does this in any way make sense?

So the whole point of creating the world with all the suffering and death and banality and all large space of time in between, was for Jesus christ to come and take people to heaven 2000 and something years after manifesting billions of years after the creation of this world?

Consider the socio-political wars that preceded christianity and Islam. Consider the empires that had to fall. The changes that had to be made and the people that had to bare the brunt of these changes by death and suffering. Christians and Muslims actually believe that all this happened for their beliefs to be revealed to the whole of mankind. These people believe that the world revolves around their beliefs. Christians believe that soon the world will end, and they would be taken to heaven, because that's been the whole point all along.

If there is a scale for intellectual myopia, these people should rank highest on this scale.

Smh.

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sanandreas:
Learn to mind your business. You can't make mockery of Muslim muhamed. So don't ever make mockery of Mary. She is blessed amongst all women.

dingbang:
How many Muslims can comfortably speak arabic?



You have a nation where the dominant languages are English, yoruba, igbo and hausa with other languages and yet u think Christians should speak hebrews..



Chei. Lord have mercy

Ifakiland:
Prophet Muhammad spoke Arabic, Muslims are been taught the Koran in Arabic right frm childhood.
How come we Christian aint taught d bible in Jesus's native Hebrew language rite frm childhood?
I was gonna preach to a Muslim and he shut me up by saying if I can't speak d language of my savior Jesus....den I really do not know or love him....I was actually speechless.