₦airaland Forum

TerryCarr:
bump

in the head.

Abuamam:
Perhaps the Italians who colonised Somaliland had less interest in the divide and rule tactic; if indeed it was such. In pre-colonial Rwanda, Hutus and Tutsis were delineated mostly on the basis of cattle ownership and hierarchy. It took the Belgians to differentiate them based on nose lengths and lip thickness... leading ultimately to a bloody genocide.



I guess yours is a better way of putting it. Africans are so fiercely tribalistic, it's mind boggling. Logically, a person's ancestory or location of birth, should not be a criterium for judging his/ her character. Yet, most Africans can't seem to shake the habit. It keeps us Africans backward.

For example, in the UK, no one cares whether the UK prime minister is Scottish, Welsh or English. In Nigeria, for example, that is the first issue everyone looks at.

The presence of Europeans in Somalia was for only a couple of decades, and that the was spent fighting them, so they never really had an opportunity to govern Somalis, as we had the longest colonial war with europeans in Africa, to the point that we were the first African City (tale) to be bombed by planes.

Somali culture is very intolerant of outsiders, thus the reason why our national language is Somali, and we still have our customs and culture, despite being in the horn of Africa, a very strategic locations, and we have been trading with foreigners for thousands of years. We still speak our own language and have our customs and culture.


As for the divide and conquer, thats impossible in Somalia for outsiders to do, as we are all ethnically Somali and look the same, have the same religion, language. each clan controls their own land, clans make up the Somali ethnicity.

Somalis only have one Tribe. We are All Somali, but we have many clans. Clans make up a tribe. Since we are one tribe as Somalis, we don't really use the word tribe but rather just the word Somali.

1stola:
CHAI!
MAKE I GET THIS KIND GIRL AS GIRLFRIEND....

Sorry you are a Negroid, you cannot get a Somali woman. Silly Bantu

KenyanLady:
You are an uneducated idîot, the word Negroid is not offensive, it's a term used to describe sub saharan African (exclude horn of african), we sub saharan african are all Negroid, So, please fûck off and leave us alone.


there are three races.

1-Negroid.

2-Caucasoid + Horn of African.

3-Mongoloid.

Caucasoid skull types.
https://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/196/f/8/caucasoid_skull_by_dizneykhan-d57ccow.jpg

Negroid and Mongoloid skull types.
[img]http://aryanity.files./2012/05/chapter1-figure2.jpg?w=450&h=244[/img]

Somalis are not Caucasian, we in the horn ( Somalis, Ethios, Erits) are older than caucasians.

GERALD710:
Kennyans were never enslaved by Somalis though Arabs did enslave the Digo community at the Coast.All the Somali Bantu originate from either earlier Bantu settlement in Somalia at Shungwaya or Slaves imported from Tanzania.

Bantus are not from Somalia, if you knew history you would know they were brought to Somalia several hundred years ago. While it is recorded in history that Arabs had huge hubs of slave trade in Kenya enslaving Bantus. So much so their are remnants of people who are the children of Arab men who raped Bantu women on the coasts.


Do you even read history. The entire history of Kenya is just Bantus being enslaved by Arabs, then the Portuguese coming in to enslave you guys, and then the Somalis helping the Arabs fight the Portuguese so they can have their Bantu slaves back, and of course Arabs and somalis enslaving Bantus and brining them to Somalia to be resold to the middle east.

BlackKenichi:
Wrong!
1. They aren't my people.
2. Trade between the Swahili states and the rest of the Indian Ocean was established before Islam was even started.
3. The Swahili language was well established before the Arabs came to trade.


Amhara and Tigre aren't Cushitic languages.


The Kingdom of Kush had virtually nothing to do with the Horn of Africa. In fact the people of Kush spoke a Nilo-Saharan language. Axum destroyed an already weakened Kush.

1. For the last couple of thousand of years, the people in Kenya were slaves to Somalis/Arabs/Ethiopians/Portugese

2. Ethiopians are Cushitic as they are related to us (those who are Amahara, Tigrey, Oromo, Afar), but linguistically they speak a semiotic language. The language classification was only done in the last one hundred years, but the people in the region are all related, thus why we have similar culture, appearance, and history and shared land.

BlackKenichi:
Many peoples have been enslaved. Also the the West African Sahelian polities were the first to defeat the Portuguese.


Is that it?


With major help from the ottoman Empire


Same with Tanzania and Kenya (Swahili)


Nope. Egyptians and the Swahili built the biggest boats


Same with the Swahili


Not important


No you weren't. Kush and Abyssinia never extended to Somali territories.

Do you even know the reason why the swahili language exists is because of the enslavement of your people by arabs, so much so and for so long that their language bled into yours. It wasn't through trade but simply enslavement.

And Somalis originated in the highlands of Ethiopia, and over 2,000 years ago when Axum was existing, there were a couple of tens thousands of Cushitic people and did not identify as Somali, Amahara, Tigrey Oromo etc. Thus the reason why our language are in the same language family and we look the same.


Somalis didn't even control Northern Kenya until a few hundred years ago, you make it sound like Somalis have lived in modern Somalia since way back since the days of Axum and Kush, forgetting that the entire horn had a few tens of thousand people as compared to the 100 Million people who live in Somalia,Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Djibouti today.

GERALD710:
A.I HAVE NEVER EVER EVER said I am Somali. I am A Swahili.Lat I checked, We ruled parts of Somalia for 700 years.
And Why would I claim to be SomaliFor Starters, Somalis want to be Arabs so much, it shows Inferiority complex.For Our Community, We are 50-70% Arab so calling me a Negroid is partially true,I am an African,My Arab ancestors came here loooong before Somalis even left the North Eastern part of the Horn or before Bantus even left the Congo. I am also proud of my African heritage which gave East and parts of Central Africa the lingua Franca spoken by more Africans than any other language.
Oh.I associate Somalis with permanently Emaciated people ever on Food Aid,My community has never starved,Ever.The Kenyan Coast is not struck by Drought and Famine like NEP and Somalia.

lol, you ruled a part of Somala. Lmao, you mean the part of northern kenya now which was taken over by somalis a few hundred years ago. Taking your own land back does not mean you ruled us. dip shiddddd


Bantus in Kenya were ruled by Arabs. its only when Arabs declined in power that Somalis started to take over northern Kenya. Somalis are all over the horn, in Somalia, northern kenya, half of Ethiopia, Djibouti. and you bantus have no history other than being slaves to Somalis, Arabs, Ethiopians.

GERALD710:
Somali Refugees are and will never be Citizens of the Republic of Kenya.We do not Naturalise Refugees.In our Census, we clearly state KENYAN SOMALIS to differentiate the Somalis who are descended from those who were within Kenyan borders as of 12th December 1963 and those who arrived as Refugees from 1991 onwards. The former are Kenyan Citizens and number 900,000. The latter are not. Refugees are not counted as part of the Kenyan population.As we speak, they are being moved to parts of Southern Somalia from Dadaab.
Dadaab refugee Camp is...A refugee Camp.The town of Dadaab has 7,251 persons as of 2009/. You misread an article which stated the population of Dadaab is comparable to Nakuru, Kenya's third largest city.Dadaab in itself is not a city.
The former North Eastern Province is 95% Somali. I agree. But it is the most sparsely populated Province in Kenya despite its sheer size with less than 5 people per square kilometer.And it is not the only province which is monoethnic. The former Central Province despite being ten times smaller, has 4 times the population of North Eastern and population densities approach 80 people per square kilometers. It is 96% Kikuyu. To the same degree Western Province is 90% Luhyia but with an extremely high population density

So you have finally admitted you are a Kenyan Negroid. All this time you were trying to pretend you were Somali. You need to troll better. I could easily tell that u were not Somali by your lack of Somali culture and knowledge of Somali history.

EnlightenedSoul:
That you collectively drag not only Somalis, but other ethnicities into your useless diatribe isn't enough? Must you also call me out specifically?

Be the moos to my barris

I will leave you Bantus to do your Bantu things while I am gone.

iconize:
Obsessed with your women?

Telling jokes must be your profession.

not really, but I can tell when someone hangs onto one thing long enough for it to be perceived as an obsession.

iconize:
Isn't that one of the "many" achievements of the Somali nation?
Producing ladies that are pointy-nosed?

lol, you seem to be obsessed with our women. We have achieved great history and have a beautiful culture.

iconize:
Where in your previous posts did you say it was the biggest in Africa?

You simply said Somalis built the biggest boats, I took it to be in the world.

It was the biggest in the region. many places didn't built boats like in americas. This is the longest surviving ship, meaning it was built with quality and great engineering by my forefathers.

JiggamanGh:
No one should worship another person. Te oy one that deserves worship is God.

I am sure Kenyanlady is not worshipping me. If she were, I wouldn't blame her. I would simply direct her to worship Allah.

iconize:
^^^

You're right.

Ayanale will choose an illogical discourse over a logical discourse so to tell us how pointed nosed Somalis are.

Whats your obsession with noses. I only show beautiful women.

JiggamanGh:
Shut up you don't have to say it. You worship somalis.

And their is nothing wrong with that.

JiggamanGh:
That 72 Virgin is the dumbest ideology ever. The man get 72 Virgins and what does the woman who lives her life for Allah get?

Hey I don't make the rules okay. Infact I don't want 72 Virgins. I only want E-soul, but who knows if she's a virgin.

The beden, also known as the beden-seyed, is an ancient Somali maritime vessel that remains the longest surviving sewn boat in the Horn of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. Its shipyards predominantly lie in the northeastern Hafun region of Somalia (notably Bayla), as well as Muscat. The boat's modern usage is chiefly for fishing. An average beden ship measures 10m or more and is strengthened with a substantial gunwale, attached by treenails. Fishermen in the Horn also use stone anchors to prevent their boats from being drawn to the shore when fishing.

iconize:
You're not making sense.

Show us where it reads in the post that Somalis built the biggest boats like you claim.

search Beden. Thats a ship SOMALIS used to build. At one time it was the biggest ship in the entire Arabia and Africa.

JiggamanGh:
Well thats another topic. What do u mean about nigerian using me as excuse to go to heaven?

Nigggggas want that 72 Virgins, don't give them a reason to get them 72 virgins is all am saying.

JiggamanGh:
You have planty of sea to fish but you choose to go hungry. Yeah that's really smart

Your view of the world is warped. One region governed by Alshabab that refused to get help from other regions to help the people and later turned into starvation does not mean all Somalis are starving.


If Somalis could not feed themselves, their wouldn't be 25 million of us controlling such large swath of land.

iconize:
You said Somalis built the largest boats. No evidence - folk tale.

search beden ship. We had our own ships that were unique to Somalis.










Maritime history of Somalia refers to the seafaring tradition of the Somali people.[1] It includes various stages of Somali navigational technology, shipbuilding and design, as well as the history of the Somali port cities. It also covers the historical sea routes taken by Somali sailors which sustained the commercial enterprises of the historical Somali kingdoms and empires, in addition to the contemporary maritime culture of Somalia.

In antiquity, the ancestors of the Somali people were an important link in the Horn of Africa connecting the region's commerce with the rest of the ancient world. Somali sailors and merchants were the main suppliers of frankincense, myrrh and spices, items which were considered valuable luxuries by the Ancient Egyptians, Phoenicians, Mycenaeans and Babylonians.[2][3] During the classical era, several ancient city-states such as Opone, Mosylon and Malao that competed with the Sabaeans, Parthians and Axumites for the wealthy Indo-Greco-Roman trade also flourished in Somalia.[4] In the Middle Ages, several powerful Somali empires dominated the regional trade including the Ajuran Sultanate, the latter of which maintained profitable maritime contacts with Arabia, India, Venetia,[5] Persia, Egypt, Portugal and as far away as China. This tradition of seaborne trade was maintained in the early modern period by later Somali states such as the Gobroon Dynasty.

iconize:
You said Somalis built the biggest boats - folk tale.

There was a time, when Somali traders were building the biggest ships.

We have the longest coast line in Africa. We are ship builders and sea faring people, only makes sense that you perfect this craft.

KenyanLady:
slowpoke, stfu and go read my old comments.

So why do you like Somalis, I thought Kenyans hated Somalis

JiggamanGh:
And you still can't keep flies out of your face. Everytime I turn on the tv I see your people on feed the children. Like I said you are borderline retard.ed. You can't even feed yourself.

Hunger due to mismanagement in one state out of many can be solved, but how will you Bantus solve HIV and Ebola? Because it will require that you no longer eat monkeys or have sexxxxx with them. This will be impossible.

iconize:


Its official!

The dude that wrote a piece about Ghanaians being the greatest asylum seekers in the world is completely wrong.

Well its a fact, that Somalis because of instability get asylum, unlike Ghanians who are not seeking asylum.

Whats boggling is Somalis, only came to the west in the last 20 years, and would never have came, if our country was peaceful. But Bantus run to whites, even though Bantus are in peaceful countries yet are happy to run after the white man who enslaved you.