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TAO11:
I am glad you were honest enough to say you didn’t really read it.

When you have to read and study it.

Who reads lies with no proof.

Even the court of law won't take ur case seriously if u don't have solid proof

For someone to always be quick to declare victory on himself, it goes to show how low the person is regarding self-esteem

TAO11:
A key sign of a failed argument is to become circular.

You couldn’t press forward so you had to return to where you begin.

See attached!

Are u referring to urself...cos u are yet to tell me how Oranmiyan came into the picture...

You deflected the argument firat

TAO11:
At least I gave you the link. Read it and not be scared.

I glanced through...All lies, no screenshots and more lies

I should waste my time to read a revised story from a Nairaland historian...

Na.. I'll pass

TAO11:
Blame your fathers for the bold. The account is not from Yorubas, it is from your daddies in the 1800s.

Regarding Lagos, read as I have directed. Some of the “best” Edo minds that you all pushed forward fled like a b!tch when I dealt with him.

Regarding Lagos...some of the best Yoruba minds fled and resorted to personal attacks when they were dealt with

See the [url="https://www.nairaland.com/6016047/ewuare-oba-benin-hails-wike/12#92167574"]LINK[/url]..where the Edo guy battered u into mere fiction writer

TAO11:
Blame your fathers for the bold.

Lmao...oya...tell me how Oranmiyan came into the picture if the article was true...
.Don't be afraid

TAO11:
Why must the present Oba palace have to confirm it to continue to put themselves under Yoruba subjugation in the modern era?

But we know, however, that their ancestors did confirm similar fact to the Europeans severally —

Oba Eweka(2), for example, informed H. L. Ward-Price that every morning at dawn, he must offer ritual supplications (while facing the rising sun) to his “Oghene” who lives in “Ife”. — see: H.L. Ward-Price, “Dark Subjects” (London, 1939), p.238.

Everyone here can see clearly through your inferiority and insecurity. It is easy to see who is desperately defensive.

And regarding Lagos, don’t be scared to follow that link to see how your brothers were shattered and scattered on every single point they raised.

See the link HERE again. But be warned that it is grammatically and conceptually dense, so you may need an Edo translator.

Good luck!

A lot of books made on Benin history..none except urs claim Eweka was born in Ife...and u gullibily believed as it suits ur narrative... everything else be damned

Why don't u post the screenshot of this person u are quoting... or u want to deny its not ur authority ..The same way u denied Roupell

U always keep overhyping ur self .... none of what u said can beat the letter oba Akitoye wrote to the British.
Even in Robert Smith's book... it was said that the Benin account corroborate with Josua Ulsheimer..U are yet to post ur Yoruba man book/screenshot where it was written that Lagos account corroborates Josua Ulsheimer

U are only good at
revising history..

PS: u are yet to show me where in Roupell article did the claims come from oba palace..

lies, lies and more lies as usual...

U'll not post screenshot... it's to be quoting somebody somewhere that only God knows whether it's correct

Then she finally posts the screenshot and alas it’s different from what she has been saying

Ah swear this guy na clown

TAO11:
You seem to lack the ability to be logical.

Your ancestors claim is binding on YOU not me. Do you understand English??

If your ancestors’ claims must be binding on me, then it must be able to stand the test of other corroborative accounts and established historical evidence.

For the Lagos account, see where the Edo account was demolished HERE.

Lol...U are the one who is illogical here.... The Oba palace does not conform with this Roupell report not even Egharevba or the 1970s books abt Benin history... So There is no way it's binding on me...


My issue is that u believe this despite multiple reports from both Yoruba and Benin that Eweka was born in Benin

One more thing....U always tend to overestimate ur self.... U are nothing....
U never demolished any account...Ur account instead was made to save face...U didn't even post the screenshot for all to see...it was audio
Ur account cant prove that Benin didn't conquer Lagos...mine did
it can't prove that Benin caused a change of rulership in Lagos...mine did
it can't prove that Lagos wasnt a vassal of Benin...mine did
it can't prove that Lagos didn't pay tributes to Benin for close to 300 years ...mine did


So how the fvck did u demolish any account

PS: post screenshots

Hellraiser77:
Babaramota I've searched Far and wide, No solution insight for you

Guy e remain small make u sef mad ...

Jus negodu how u beat that small boy

gwafaeziokwu:


She/he has found a new bea in you. Hellraiser77 is not romantic at all.

She/he dey find the latest lie to quote as authority...

U know say normally...she go dey quote another person work and her fans go dey blow her mind... just once wey she manage post screenshots...All the fans don go into hiding...dem know say she don talk lie for there

TAO11:
There he goes again — asserting that his Edo ancestors lied.

Well, that’s your Edo problem, not mine.

Bye-bye impersonator. Or is that your Yoruba name as an Edo man??

Even my Edo ancestors claim that they conquered Lagos...Do u believe that too

Lmao....why are u running away...

U just claimed that U weren't holding Roupell as an authority but u quoted his works more that 10 times knowing well that it was false.... seeing that u have been caught...U then deny that u weren't using it as ur authority...Now that the loopholes in the purported story of Roupell has been exposed..U are now running away... why don't u stay and defend ur Roupell or is it because the people of old didn't say something abt Yoruba that u regard them as true


Also kindly show me where in the article it is said that such story came from the oba palace

gwafaeziokwu:


The love of your life is not mentioning me again. Have I been too harsh?

U don burst am Na...

and all him fans don Waka comot...So he gats Waka too

TAO11:
I did not use it as my authority. My authority for what Yoruba people did is Yoruba account and historical scholarship.

I presented it as the authority of the Edo person who lied about his Edo early accounts. Your early accounts talks about your monarchy from Ife.

I hope you are able to understand the language I’m typing with — or is Edo the only language you understand??

Wait a minute, why is your moniker a Yoruba name — are you ashamed of Edo names, or is that an attempt at impersonation??

Lol... weren't u the one always saying according to Roupell since...then u posted the screenshots and its found to be a lie and u are claiming it as an authority of the Edo person...

No Edo person..Even the oba think that Eweka was born in ife... if it were true, then how did Oranmiyan come into The story Esp to rename the city

Very amazing how ur reasoning and critical thinking disappeared when the article supported ur claims which were obviously false but suddenly arises even when there are sources that Lagos was conquered by Benin

Besides I don't think there is any rule that says every nairalander must carry their tribe name as monicker... most times it can be due to the interest in the culture or where dey were brought up

So let me guess...me having an English name and using it in all my documents means that I'm ashamed of my tribal heritage...

Simply pathetic

TAO11:
You are misdirecting you effort right now. The account was given by the Benin palace as at the late 1800s.

If you accept the account as it is, then good for you. If you do not then good for you.

There is no reason why I as a Yoruba should be bonded by what it says. If anyone should be bonded by the account it is you

Leave me out of this and channel your energy to your palace from where the account emerged in olden times.

If you still don’t understand what I wrote here, then it is high time you get an English to Edo translator.

Lol.... Nice one.. deflecting my questions

At the bolded...since there is no reason for u to be bonded by the account, why do you use it as ur authority in the arguments ... knowing very well there are loopholes in the story

Every Benin man knows that Eweka ...The First oba was born in Benin, at First dumb .. before he spoke the first word .. owomika which was corrupted to eweka...So we cant be bonded by lies...

My problem is that u are constantly holding it as ur authority even when u know that it doesn't conform with what u believe

And besides...there is no where in the article(maybe u can show me) where it was said the report came from the palace

TAO11:
I don’t care what you take the attachment to be. The attachment clearly shows what your own Edo people believe (as at the 1800s) to be the origin of their monarchy. Call your ancestors liars as usual — that’s none of my problem.

No where did I mention that the Yorubas agree to every single detail of the many Edo versions. However, the whole book is not only that one page you’ve read.

You may choose to disagree with your own ancestors, but your people of old were at least more honest than you to have told the oyinbo man that their first king was a Yoruba man from Ife.

It wasn’t the Yoruba people pointing a gun at your ancestors’ heads to say that — even though the chronicler’s account apparently conflated the Yoruba man with his son.

Lol .U made a mistake Yoruba don't agree to an Edo version that doesn't suit their narrative.. otherwise you won't be posting this as ur main authority because the Benin said such

The article is right because it supports ur claim that the first oba came from Ife...but u are blind to the loopholes in the story...

So going by the article, can we agree that oranmiyan was false and he never named Benin Ile Ibinu because the people of old never agreed with it right?



And since u claim that the page is not entirely true...why don't u post the complete book or page let's see and judge

Besides I see that u are making an excuse for the chronicler for mentioning Eweka instead of Oranmiyan...ask urself..if the white was told the Oranmiyan part and how he gave birth to Eweka.. would he have written this page you tend to support?

RudyNerdy:
and what's wrong with exchanging shirts with a Leipzig player?

covid19

TAO11:
Little naked Edo slave of the Yoruba, can you not bother me with incoherent junks??

You have been cancelled since last year as the most ignorant but most emotional of all my Edo slaves on Nairaland.

Roupell did not write a book, you ignorant slave.

Give the phone to your parents and let me engage them instead, they should at least know a thing or two.

Oya, before I open my eyes alele go and play with sand.

PS: The last paragraph of the 1903 attachment below shows the quotation of Roupell’s 1897 Officials collected from the Benin palace.

(I pray you know what quotation means).

cc: LegendHero

lets take this attachment to be true.

So where does Oranmiyan come in to name the land ...Ile ibinu

Chai

bewla:
Ask ereduwa u get the fact

no oba like ereduwa
also...obas are not historians

This was how Isaac died...

He didn't believe in the land of milk and honey

tevinsolt:
I don't mean to be anal but what is really good about the country?
I would think an unfortunate Nation would produce unfortunate persons at the helm of power.

There is a need for honest self evaluation, acceptance of the truth. It is only then, will proper measures be taken to fix it.

The nation is good. .The people are bad...The government is a product of the people ...and this government is a clear example of how most Nigerians think
tribalistic
nepotism and the likes....U CANT tell me this all happens in the govt

Until the citizens of Nigeria agitate for a reform on the security sector, we'll continue to have mediocre security personnel and be at the risk of stray bullets from the people meant to protect us

post=92655589:
We hope they send him to jail for him to face the consequences of his action FULLY!

The change ur darling Daddy promised doesn't cover security right?

Lalasticlala... Dominique Mynd44 front page abeg

At least let's hear the views of other programmers if this is still reliable ..in this post covid period

So they are getting richer while the world is getting richer
God when

In this era of technology ...where u can get books to read abt history... Some people still think Edo is Yoruba but they can't provide sources that verify their claims...

Obviously the guy is so pain... u'll see him running around spreading lies abt Benin

Pathetic

privaldo:
Goal Bayern...Tolisso. Chelsea now need 6 goals to make it to the QF.

why u dey count am...

E never reach u

Mylove55:
what about thief obaseki that forged certificate and share Edo state money to tax collector's.

Lol....So Obaseki certificate is fake and his school hasn't come out to disprove it

didn't dey know b4 they gave him governorship candidacy the first time

RABOY:
Why didn't you question his pastorship?

Why didn't I question it?

Good thinking...

But...in our contemporary World...I believe there are more fake pastors than the real ones in Nigeria...
Even as a pastor..He has been linked to a number of cases abt embezzlement..... So much for a pastor.. Besides I don't take pple who carry the pastor tag seriously...

Take a look at Osinbajo...what has been his effect in the mass killing of Christians in Southern Kaduna and the likes

And Being a former cultist..there is a 80% chance that he might have killed somebody or caused the death of someone...

Most of us by the sidelines are actually getting confused on who the Edo people really want

Left for me... I'll prefer Obaseki as the lesser evil...

if someone can move from being a well known cultist to a governor...I wonder what we'll able to tell our children when dey grow up

MetaPhysical:
Ogiso itself were chiefs sent from Ife.

Anything South of Benue took its root in Ife....including Igbo.

CrossRiver and Akwa should have been in Cameroon because they are geneticcally non-Ife. Everything else in the South had footprint in Ife.

Dont make me throw the history book ar you.

Oral history says that ogiso were the first ruling dynasty of Igodomigodo which was later named Benin
which meant kings of the sky
The First Ogiso was Ogiso Igodo
The last Ogiso was Ogiso Owodo...

Can u prove how ogiso were chiefs sent from Ife or u kindly shut the fvck up with ur BASELESS and USELESS claims

SmartyPants:
lol...I hope you have time for a history lesson coz your own is deep.

Bini does not have a single trace of Yoruba.

Oral history posits that the people of igodomido were visited by a yoruba prince called oranmiyan whom they welcome and invited to rule over them.

However, these people were cantankerous and oranmiyan grew frustrated and left. That was the beginning and ending of yoruba influence in Benin and within the bini.

Boss..leave that guy...He is adamant and still refuses to leave his stupidity

Ask him to provide proof and hear him speak jargons