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Raintaker:
Wow really?
Second time I'll be hearing this.
Thanks for the heads up

Aboru Aboye

The complete Odu Ifa covers all that pertains to African Tradition Religion Mysticism which comprises of incantations, ebos (sacrifices), worships, initiations, evocations, curses, prayers, praises, charms, spiritual baths, all Orisas.... etc.

The Odu Ifa is our holy book which guides and enlighten Awos. It will be erroneous for an Awo not to be a grand master in African Tradition Religion Mysticism.

Awos dont worship Aje (witch), we dont worship mami water but we know their secrets, laws and we use it for our own benefits by helping people who are afflicted by these spirits be it water spirits or witchcraft spirits.... etc.

To kill a witch is through ebo (sacrifice).

To drive away spiritual husband or wife is through ebo (sacrifice).

To attend witchcraft coven meetings is through ebo (sacrifice).

To attend mami water meetings is through ebo (sacrifice).

Because Babalawos can attend Aje (witch) meetings doesnt make him a witch or because Babalawos can attends mami water meetings doesnt make him a papi water.

See Babalawos as spiritual lawyers that knows spiritual laws and they can bend those spiritual laws to suit them and their clients

Let me stop my teaching with Oyeku Ogbe so that you can fully understand Babalawos relationship with mami water. I will be using Baba Orunmila as a case study

OYEKU OGBE INCANTATION

Iji aji a ko jire

Isun asun a ko sun ire

Ebo Oyekulogbe la o mon

It was divined for Orunmila when Orunmila hide his money in his room. On the day when he returned from a journey, he found that the money was missing. He thought that one of his Omo Awo has stolen it.

The money kept coming up missing and Orunmila discovered that it was his Egbe disrupting his life. Afterward, he performed the necessary sacrifice, feeding them.

After doing this, this money stopped disappearing. He then began to feed them regularly and didn’t have problem again.

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Babalawos

Raintaker:
Babalawos, which one u be self?
Ifa, Orunmila, Stella, Mami water, Olokun, Stella?
Are they all related or what?
Or you just dey serve all d gods join together.

Aboru Aboye

90 percent of native doctors that use Osanyin for divination are fake and 419 native doctors. Only 10 percent of them are real and very rare to find. So be very careful while dealing with such quacks.

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Babalawos

Raintaker:
So Osanyin na 419
But y do some ppl worship it and use it for divination?

Thank you

flexcool131:
Nice one

Aboru Aboye

Send me a private message on my nairaland profile.

Babalawos

KGBEAST:
Abeg I need your help, how do we discuss?.

ASE

orisa37:
You're a Light of The World. Keep shinning. The Lord, Orunmila is with you.

Aboru Aboye

Ayelala should be evoked on your stolen properties but this thread is not for Ayelala.

Babalawos

KGBEAST:
I need your help in taking care of some matters, my bag, power bank and hard drive were stolen when I went to write an exam last week, although the bag was later found, the remaining two items are still missing, I want to lay a curse on the thief, how much would it cost and how do we go about it?

INCANTATION

Edi Bere, bere ki o rna fi ori Ade gbogi.
Ai ki'mere bibe.
Odifa fun Olofa ni jo ti ajoji meji maade.
Eni to mofa,
ko mo ono ofa.
Eni to mo ono ofa,
ko mo Ifa.
Adifa fun
Orunmila baba o shawo lo si ode ofa.
Ifa ta lo'de ofa.

TRANSLATION

Do not hit the tree with the crown, cause without hitting the tree with the crown, its weaver will not know how to bend down for the tree:

That was the name of the awo who made divination for the Olofa of Ofa when he was expecting two visitors.

He that knew the way to Ofa without knowing lfa and He that knew lfa but did not know the way to Ofa and sold Ifa oracle in the town of Ofa.

Those were the names of the Awos who made divination for Orunmila when he was going to visit the Olofa of Ofa in the company of Osanyin.

Orunmila did not know the way to Ofa but Osanyin who knew the way to Ofa did not know the Ifa oracle. Osanyin agreed to accompany Orunmila to Ofa.

Just before they reached the town of Ofa, Osanyin told Orunmila to wait for him to herald his approach to the palace.

Osanyin went into the palace and greeted the Olofa telling him that it was not Orunmila's tradition to enter any town without introductory libation.

He demanded and obtained two rats, two fishes, two hens and two cocks for that purpose. Osanyin did not however tell Orunmila what he did because he kept the materials at one side for himself.

Instead, he told Orunmila that the Oba was not quite ready to receive him yet because he had visitors with him. Not long afterwards, Osanyin left once more for the palace where he told the Olofa that Orunmila had demanded a goat, a piece of white cloth, four snails and 8 Naira.

The Olofa gave them to him and he again kept them at one side for himself without telling Orunmila what he was up to.

The Olofa however told Osanyin to request Orunmila to move without any delay into the town because they had long been hearing about his reputation.

When he got to Orunmila, he told him that the Olofa besought him to exercise patience because the ceremony would soon be over.

After a long time, Osanyin returned to the palace to tell the Olofa that Orunmlila was once more demanding an ewe (female sheep), alligator pepper, tortoise and parrot's feather to chronicle his entry into the town.

Olofa once more gave them all the materials to Osanyin, who hid them at one side, only to tell Orunmila that he only had a little more time to wait.

Meanwhile, Olofa's patience ran out on a diviner, who no matter how proficient was demanding so much before embarking on any divination.

He wondered what he would ask for after divination. Why should a stranger who he did not even invite, be so extortionate, he queried. He decided to go and meet Orunmila wherever he was waiting.

On his part, Orunmila felt slighted for being kept waiting for what seemed an indefinite period, since there was no secret Oro (or curfew) which could keep him waiting. He too decided in anger to ask his way to meet the Olofa.

The Olofa and Orunmila eventually met at the town hall and began to challenge each other. As they were exchanging the narration of grievances, an elderly person advised them to stop talking simultaneously and to hear each other out.

It was only then they discovered that they had both been the victim of a confidence trickster. As soon as Osanyin realized that his game was up, he escaped. Olofa then took Orunmila home to work with him.

When the Odu appears at divination, the person should be advised to beware of conducting business through intermediaries because the middle man who is supposedly assisting him would in fact cheat in the process.

This work was inspired by LATE DR. C. OSAMARO IBIE, J.P.

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Babalawos

Chinyeresandra:
Type your email address so that I contact you.

Aboru Aboye

My email address is on my profile.

Babalawos

Aboru Aboye

It is because the physical dimension is different from the astral dimension / spiritual dimension.

Let me give you one example: an Aje (Witch) can be a billionaire or trillionaire in the coven (astral world) but in the physical world, he or she will be extremely poor and the Aje (Witch) that is very rich and wealthy physically, he or she will be very poor in the coven (astral world).

This is African Science

I hope I have answered your question?

Babalawos

blessedvisky:
How does that no 5 correlate? Shouldn't a mami water potential recruit love water and swimming?

Aboru Aboye

Then you have to answer the call before it is too late. Was it a female voice or a male voice that is calling you?

Babalawos

Epositive:
that number 7 tho

Today I will be teaching you the 21 signs that you mami water {water spirit}

Mammi water spirit is different from Olokun or Osun or Oya. Although they are all water spirits but they operate differently. Both Olokun and Mami water use similar symbols which represent water and are used as a vehicle into the spiritual world.

Native chalk is used for Olokun while talcum powder is used for mami water. Mami water is a very recent development so most of the things used are modern.

21 Signs You Have Mammi Water

{1} Are your belongings like clothes, money... etc mysteriously missing?

{2} Do you sit down with your eyes wide open and suddenly burst into a frightful laugh?

{3} Do you have sudden urge to injure people or animal for no reason?

{4} Do you have frequent stomach pains?

{5} Are you very scared of swimming?

{6} Do you sense the presence of another person with you that you cant see?

{7} Do you hear your name being called without you seeing the caller?

{8} Do you care very less of your life when you are angry?

{9} Do you murmur while you are asleep or does your lips move while you are asleep?

{10} Do you have a strange sleeping position?

{11} Do you dream of having intimacy?

{12} Do you dream of eating?

{13} Do you dream of participating in strange meetings inside the river or sea?

{14} Do you dream of having scaly body?

{15} Do you dream of finding yourself in the midst of snakes?

{16} Do you dream of finding yourself in the midst of fishes?

{17} Do you dream of finding yourself in the midst of crocodiles?

{18} Do you have weird dreams of masquerades?

{19} Do you dream and seeing scary river or sea creatures?

{20} Do you dream and see your body shining?

{21} Do you dream of somebody teaching you things?

If your answer is Yes to some of the above questions, then mami water is calling you into her service and if you are not interested in her call.

She will keep on calling you until you answer her call and if you are putting up a strong resistance, mami water will become destructive and will continue to inflict all manner of illnesses accompanied by misfortunes after misfortunes on you, your family members and friends.

She may even kill them for an offence they never committed. If you continue to be stubborn, mami water or water spirit could make you go mad.

I have seen people brought into my shrine mad for not answering mami water call. I was able to make these people normal after they had agreed to serve her and be initiated.

Please answer your mami water calling today before it is too late for you, your family members and friends.

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Babalawos

ASE

kufre2010:
wise one , the fact that u took it upon yourself to educate nigerians on our tradition, the gods of africa will reward u. they wil lift u high above your imagination. thank u sir

Aboru Aboye

There are different types of initiations when it comes to spirituality. We are talking about astral initiations and spiritual initiations here.

Babalawos

ichuka:
Lol
There's no free born in these world.
Initiation can never make someone what he/she is not born into at first.initiation is merry confirmation of who/what a person is.period!!!

Aboru Aboye

They are not wicked as long as you dont break their spiritual laws. They are far far more accommodating than witches (Aje).

They bless those they love with children, wealth, fame, protection, long life, power........... etc.

Babalawos

Ishilove:
Some are.

What Babalawos will not tell you is these spirits are very proud, stubborn, wicked and highly demonic.

Water is a very powerful element, and the earth comprises of 70% of water. These spirits control this element and as such are placed higher in the spiritual realm than witches and wizards.

You can get initiated, and you can also be born into it especially if you come from a lineage where the family idol is a marine spirit, or if you went to them to ask for a child.

Aboru Aboye

The unconscious mami water or papi water are the ones that were born with it but their connection to the source "river" is very weak and the cause of this is based on several factors. People like you fall under this category.

The conscious mami water or papi water are the ones that were initiated and their connection to the source "river" is very strong. They can consciously project their soul out of their body to the river and holds meetings. Most river Priestess and River Priests falls under this category.

During river festivals or important river ceremonies or river rituals, these river priests or priestess are possessed and they will start to prophesy future events to those around.

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Babalawos

kufre2010:
i know there are two type of mammie water conscious and unconscious ones, the unconsious are being manipulated and used negatively. i used to dream of myself bathing sweeming and fishing in the river and stream until one day somebody told me that i'm from water but i'm not consious of it, and this is affacting me negatively as it seems nothing works for me. baba, what can i do in my situation?

Aboru Aboye

Some persons are born with mami water while others are initiated after they are born as ordinary human beings just like Aje (witch) whom are initiated after they had been born while others are born with it to earth.

Re-read my first post on mami water for further clarification

Babalawos

ichuka:
People are not initiated into the marine world but are born into it.

[quote author=lawrykings post=55382903][/quote]Aboru Aboye

It is good to have self esteem but high self esteem in must cases turns to pride which is self destructive to man by nature.

So be humble and work on pride. It is not difficult, it is very easy if you are determined

Babalawos

You are welcome

stanleyalpacino:
Wise one... I duff woggedly for you.. The gods are wise indeed.

Keep it up Sir.

DaGr8est:
What are negative consequencies of being mami or papi water?

Aboru Aboye

There are no negative consequences of being a mami water or papi water except you break any of their laws.

As long as you don't break their laws, you are ok.

Babalawos

Thanks

Aregs:
Keep it up

Oyeku Ogbe talked about mami water. You are either born a mami water or papi water or you can be initiated by a mami water or papi water or by a priest or priestess. If you would like to be initiated, contact me.

Some of the reasons people get initiated to mami water or papi water are:

{1} Immortality

{2} Revenge

{3} Power

{4} Money

{5} Children

{6} Husband / Wife

{7} Fame

{8} Long Life

{9} Protection

{10} Business Boom / Employment

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Babalawos

omowumeee:
what is the hand used for during initiation?

Continued

When the farmer got inside, he told Orunmila that he came to find out what to do to apprehend the deer that was ravaging the crops in his farm. He advised the farmer to serve Esu with a he-goat and Ogun with a tortoise.

Orunmila also told him what to say to the deer:

Latanbo, Lole bo.
adafa fun Agbonrin
To fi oko ode sapo.

Orunmila told him that after making the sacrifice he should set a trap on the route normally taken to his farm by the deer.

The farmer made the sacrifice very quickly but on her part, the deer considered it unnecessary to make sacrifice since she had already known the strategy of the farmer.

She thought to herself that she had only to change routes to avoid the trap set for her.

When Esu however discovered that the deer refused to make sacrifice, he decided to lure her to the route of the trap.

The deer had told her young ones to stay in front, contrary to the advice given her at divination, not to go the farm with her young ones. The trap caught the young deer and the mother escaped.

To show appreciation for the advice, divination and sacrifice made for him, the farmer presented the hand of the young deer to Orunmila.

That is how the tradition of using the hand of the deer during Ifa initiation ceremony, began.

When this Odu appears at Ugbodu, the person should be advised to forbid the meat of deer and to refrain from stealing anybody's property.

Before completing the lfa initiation ceremony, he should prepare his own Ogun shrine.

He should serve his head with a guinea-fowl while backing Ifa to avoid being killed on account of his own possession.

At divination, the person should be advised to serve Esu with a he-goat because someone is about to fight him on account of his own property.

This work was inspired by LATE DR. C. OSAMARO IBIE, J.P.

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Babalawos

Cogent:
thanks

its actually my husband. I don't want to treat him the way he treats me because our marriage is still very new and I don't want anything to damage it.

Aboru Aboye

Thank you for confirming the accuracy of your free face divination report here.

Babalawo Orisa

syrup40:
@Babalawos, i sent you a mail

Aboru Aboye

I have replied you. Go check your email.

Babalawos

syrup40:
May God Bless You Sir. Thanks a lot.

You are welcome

syrup40:
Good day sir
I await your response sir. Thanks and God Bless

Aboru Aboye

Your face reveals you are not satisfied with your present status in life, you want more achievements and accomplishments.

Your face also reveals you are so caught up in planning something now that you can't tap into your emotions and how they relate to your plans.

You want everything to fall into place perfectly but you do need to leave space for second thought and reflections.

You are a strict strategist and often that works in your favor.

But sometimes that kind of rigidity can hinder you and offer you less than you might have otherwise had if you were open to change.

Open your mind and your heart and leave some space for the unexpected.

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Babalawos

Cogent:
Babalawos read my face please

Aboru Aboye

Your face reveals you are very curious but unfortunately someone is not treating you very well because you are such a sensitive soul, this treatment digs deep into your psyche and causes you pains.

You are wondering if you deserve this treatment or not and you are wondering what you have done wrong.

But you must evolve from that way of thinking.

While it is certainly wise to take an open-minded view of things and wonder if there is some way to rise higher or do better, it shouldn't be your go-to response each time someone treats you poorly.

You usually treat others with great respect and compassion, so be more objective about yourself and the situation.

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Babalawos

Gewezzy1:
Please check your email

Aboru Aboye

I have replied your e-mail

Babalawos

Gewezzy1:
How much is it for private divination, please send your mail, but i really do wish it would be Osun though.

Aboru Aboye

What if your Orisa is Oya, Yemoja or Olokun, what will you do?

The Orisa chooses you and not you that chooses the Orisa.

You can get my e-mail from my Facebook page => www.facebook.com/Ifapriests

Babalawos

Ifa initiation is the process of admitting a neophyte into Ifa secrets with rituals of initiation ceremonies. If you would like to be initiated to Ifa, contact me immediately.

Today, I will be teaching you how the tradition of using the hand of the deer during Ifa initiation ceremony began. The story of how the tradition of using the hand of the deer during Ifa initiation ceremony began goes like this:

The deer developed the habit of going to feed in a farm that had rich crops of yam, corn and cassava. When the farmer discovered that his farm, risked a bad harvest from the attacks of the deer, he decided to watch out for the intruder.

On his part, the deer always knew how to avoid the farm whenever the farmer was around. Apprehensive that she might one day run out of luck, the deer decided to go to Orunmila for divination.

She was advised to serve Esu with a he-goat and warned never to go to the farm with her young ones.

As the deer was about to leave for home, she sighted the farmer and moved back into Orunmila's house. When she explained that the man coming to his house was the farmer she was speaking about, Orunmila made her to hide in the bed room....... To be continued

Raintaker:
Ok I understand now.

You are welcome