₦airaland Forum

mrvitalis:
How do u think a small laundry would pay for 24 hours light?

Say they use 2kv that's 2kwh that's 200 per house thats that's 144k monthly if he works 6 days that's about 130k

And 60% would be idol use

Have you ran a business before?

Your saying rubbish, at the current rate of electricity that is more reliable than generator,

Goodlyhrt:
You head is far deep in your axss that you can't be saved from your delusions.

The British tore down the village sized kingdom simply because it couldn't measure up to it's military might and also because they stubbornly stood in the way of his royal majesty.

Blame the unlettered/unexposed Oba of those times that thought they could defeat a mortar bearing military force with JUJU instead of diplomacy.

Be gone from my mentions and face your ignorance and delusions away from me.

Benin had deteriorated at the time of the British invasions, but it was worth it to put up a fight,the Zulu did,Ashanti did, Dahomey did.

Ojiofor:
Benin art I concur it was one of the best but you see ancient Benin city been the most developed in Africa I disagree on that.

OK,which city do you think was the best developed in subsaharan Africa?

Ojiofor:
That is what I was saying, it was an exaggeration for the poster to claim that Bini city was the most developed city in Africa when they have nothing left of that era as evidence.

The splendour of Benin art gives credence to that fact because only well developed stable societies can produce such magnificent art,Timbuktu etc never had such splendid art

Ojiofor:
Don't be stuhpidt,if you claim to have the greatest city in Africa you should be able to show evidence not sketched picture.Where is the ruins of this great city?If you go to Rome,Jerusalem,Istanbul,Egypt etc you will see magnificent ruins of Roman empire which was way older than your bini village witchcraft empire.

Okay below is picture of ancient city of Timbuktu in Mali.They are older than your Bini empire yet it still stands.

Timbuktu wasn't burnt down to the ground at any point in its history, Benin was burnt down several times from constant civil wars. Rome wasn't burnt down at any point in its history,Rome used slaves to build its city,Benin didn't,you must understand that this so called Timbuktu is being renovated and maintained constantly. Also forest kingdoms are very susceptible to decay,even your modern buildings decay so fast in Nigeria today if they aren't maintained due to the weather conditions.

Kushites:
Writing spread from which “east”?

Dude, BLACK AFRICANS INVENTED WRITING.

In fact, probably thousands of African writing scripts have existed before any “white people” existed.

Black Africans are the world’s ORIGINAL people.

The entire world was black for 100,000 plus years. So called white people, who are just bleached out, albino descendants of ancient African settlers, emerged only 7,000 years ago.

They are newcomers to civilisation.

Do you know a PAINT FACTORY was discovered in South Africa, complete with evidence of the knowledge of CHEMISTRY, and was carbon dated to 100,000 years old?

Africa is the Cradle of Civilisation.

Speech, mathematics, writing, the Calendar, architecture, medicine, iron smelting, mineral mining, law, philosophy, religion, marriage, etiquette/protocol, cities, international trade and shipping, and more, are ALL BLACK AFRICAN INVENTIONS AND INNOVATIONS.

Africans had scripts we know of which included the Meroitic script, the Nubian script, the KEMET script, also known as hieroglyphs, the Ajami script, the Nsibidi script, the Adinkra symbols, the Ethiopic script etc.

ALL OTHER SCRIPTS WORLDWIDE ARE DERIVATIVES OF THE ORIGINAL AFRICAN SCRIPTS.

Medieval or middle ages africans were totally different from the Africans you are referring to,all the inventions of the so called blacks had been lost by the time of the medieval Africans,also Forest Africans of which Benin is part of didn't know much advanced writing forms,only rudimentary writing like the ones developed by the egajham/ ekoi people of the cross river.

mrvitalis:
So a laundry person which one would u choose

A gen where you can u can on one when you have work and off when you don't

And constant powet where 60% of power is used to on fan, light and others when u have no work

Whick one do you think is cheaper

Generator isn't reliable, overuse also damages it, it breakdowns and takes days to fix with heavy cost,you now have to have several standby generators,constant power supply is way preferable

Mrexcell:
It might have reached it's peak in the locality but still wasn't the greatest if it were it wouldn't have fell in one single British invasion there was no records of years of resistance like we have read about from other tribes in the world that strongly resisted the British before they were finally subdued.

By the time the British invaded in 1897, Benin had terribly declined and deteriorated, it was was no more great or powerful,even smaller local states were harrasing it,not to talk of the British

Ojiofor:
Bini city have nothing left of their mud thatch houses they called great city.
You do not expect mud thatch houses to survive in a rain forest region like Bini and mud houses can't make a city great.

Abuja is a capital built from scratch by Nigeria, it can be compared to some of the great cities in the world especially if it's well managed.

That is the same way African cities where built from Scratch and could be compared to the best cities in the world in times past.

What Africans mainly lacked,which is still the case today is technology, nothing else

Esama:
Excuse which Benin are you talking about.

Benin city ,Edo

Goodlyhrt:
See this one.. So you still relied on the colonizers record to validate your claim? So in your greatness none of your literature survived to point to as reference to your claim bah?

Common getat from my mention you.. living in the past.

You should probably pack you things and go back to those primitive time so that you can really enjoy the 'greatness' you so cherish.

Most Forest state africans did not know advanced writing forms, you can't blame them for that,writing spread from the east,then Egypt then to Greece who later spread it to Europe, Europeans didn't develop independent writing ability,why should Africans be blamed for not developing independent writing ability

Mrexcell:
If bini kingdom was actually once the greatest kingdom the current generation who were descendants of that great kingdom would have definitely found a way to recreate that greatness today why continue blaming the white man who have since given u all the freedom to recreate that acclaimed greatness? The Chinese don't blame the Japanese for once colonising them nor the Americans blaming the British.

No one is blaming whiteman,I simply stated that Benin reached its peak before the encounter with the whiteman to preemptively counter those that might want to attribute it's success to the whiteman.

Also note that Benin is not independent today,it is controlled by Nigeria,there are limitations.

Ojiofor:
Bini city have nothing left of their mud thatch houses they called great city.
You do not expect mud thatch houses to survive in a rain forest region like Bini and mud houses can't make a city great.

Mud houses,are the ideal houses for African setting not stone houses,all great ancient cities were composed essentially of mud houses,don't be deceived by movies or stories of ancient buildings, many of them were rebuilt in the 19th century

mrvitalis:
Give me example of a small businesses please let's do the maths let's see who knows something or nothing

A laundry and business centre for example, I run both

mrvitalis:
How many Nigerians can pay for constant light

You want to gave constant and pay 15,000 a month bill? Constant power would cost an average home 200k minimum

Tell me what exactly is lack of power preventing in Nigeria please.. I need names

You are lieing,constant power is not that expensive, you are lieing

mrvitalis:
There is no business that wants constant light that won't get it

You guys think national grid electricity is cheaper than generator ?

Using CNG generator is way cheaper

You people don't know anything, many small businesses need constant light to function optimally, government should ensure there's constant light even its subsidises it.generator cost is not only in fuel cost,but maintenance, unreliability, efficiency cost etc.

Simple and short

Evidences of Benin splendour through its art abounds immensely worldwide

Slytiger:
According to British Brittanica.

Fact is fact,truth is truth

Ojiofor:
It should be online or no evidence of what you claim?
There are picture evidence of ruins of great cities around the world.

Go and search for them online

Slytiger:
Benin was a kingdom, not an empire.

Oyo was an empire though.

Benin was the greatest African state/ city to exist in the medieval age,bar non.

Oyo was an empire on paper

aljharem:
So many are mad. Bini not Benin

Kingdom not empire

Your bini influence no pass 3 local government.

Tired of all these stu.pid people

All I mentioned was Benin city,I never mentioned empire anywere

Ojiofor:
Can you show us the ruins of the greatest African city?

Go to Benin,they will show you

Goodlyhrt:
If I were to engage you a little bit more now you will go on about how slave trade, British denied you from achieving whatever fathom greatness you had in the past.

Bro forget all these village and beer parlor gist for the outdated ogies and focus on AI. AI is the future and major contribution on its development by any African will duly give us a bragging among our peers.

I'm talking about city development not technology

Goodlyhrt:
Not only Greatest African empire but the greatest in the universe and multiverse. There is none like the mighty Benin empire in the whole of the multiverse of the multiverse !

Idiots!!!

Benin city not empire was the greatest African state in all of known history

Goodlyhrt:
Delulu Africans with their village "Empire" hallucinations

Empire is empire,if you like mock it or not,it will never change the facts and truth

Benin city was the most developed African city for centuries,Benin had reached its peak before the coming of the whiteman.

There was no society,kingdom or state greater than Benin for centuries not the least the societies of the majority tribes in Nigeria. They've got nothing on BENIN.

Infact the whiteman facilitated it's decline.

Today Benin city is reduced to ruins and nothingness.

A ruined city filled with drugs and crime.

It's inhabitants are no more the hard workers and developers their ancestors were.

They have thrown away their garb of greatness for Nigeria.

All they have left is a symbol of the past- the Oba.

Isn't it time for Benin to rise again.

guysbewise:
Was the seat of the Nigerian government in the former Mid-West state when you attacked the Mid-West state that has nothing to do your Biafra.

The Midwest was in Nigerian territory on the way to Lagos, it had to be held by the biafran soldiers on their way to Lagos, it was collateral damage

Rossikk:
I'VE READ SO MUCH GARBAGE ON THIS THREAD.

Everybody is WRONG.

The ONLY REASON Nigerians/Africans abandoned their traditional religion was because the colonialists seized NOT just the land, but the resources and riches of the land.

Access to those resources became dependent on your getting a British-style education in one of their wretched 'missionary schools', become a clerk, typist or whatever. A COLONIAL JOB.

(In areas where Islam was prevalent, they made no such demands to abandon Islam.)

Now to gain ADMITTANCE into those ''missionary schools'', you had to renounce your traditional religion, adopt christianity, get baptised, and get an English name, like John, 'Henry', or 'Jonathan'.

So all the chiefs and great traditional leaders began sending their wards to the missionary schools, and those later became powerful leaders who were christian, and who entrenched the new belief systems across their regions. Guys like Samuel Ajayi Crowther and co.

One thing you people need to realise is that Nigerians have been aware of christianity since at least the 1400s.

The Benin Empire had extensive trade relations with Europe, especially Portugal, with whom she exchanged ambassadors in the 1500s.

Yes, there actually was an Embassy of the Benin Empire in Lisbon, Portugal, in the 1500s, staffed by Benin bureaucrats, and an ambassador.

King Alfonso in the early 1500s had tried severally to get Oba Esigie to allow the establishment of churches in the Benin kingdom.

These overtures were bluntly rejected by the Oba, who only allowed the establishment of one or two churches in the kingdom. And no more.

And so it remained for many centuries, until 1897, when the British invaded, bombarded, burnt down and looted the great city of its treasures, like the pack of savage vandals they are, and today display their loot shamelessly in their 'museums'.

SO THIS WHOLE GARBAGE THAT ''Oh, it was because Africans saw that their gods did not work'' etc etc is just that , PURE GARBAGE.

It was ECONOMIC BLACKMAIL BY COLONIAL INVADERS WHO PREDICATED INDIVIDUAL SUCCESS UPON ABANDONMENT OF AFRICAN RELIGION, that forced them to do so.

Ancient Nigerians always saw the christian story as BULLCRAP.

The entire story made no sense to them. They laughed it off as the story of children.

They stopped laughing when the 'holy' christian guns by colonial thieves pointed at them.

If Africans abandoned religions because of military defeat or setbacks, why do the descendants of slaves practice their Yoruba religions till today in Brazil, Cuba, Trinidad and elsewhere?

Why didn't they say ''Oh well our African gods did not save us from being enslaved, so let us run and accept the 'white man Jesus' as our ''personal lord and saviour''?

NONSENSE.

ECONOMIC BLACKMAIL is the answer.

Here's what would have happened if the British had not IMPOSED Christianity on Nigerians.

They would have handed over to an educated leadership practicing a modernised version of TRADITIONAL RELIGION, just like JAPAN is doing today.

Japan's religion is Shintoism.

There is very little difference between Shintoism and African Traditional Religion.

In Japan there are over 200,000 public shrines, many built and maintained by the govt.

When a Japanese man buys a car, he takes it to a shrine where the traditional priest pours a strange concoction over the car, to guarantee safe journeys.

The Japanese simply replaced blood sacrifice with sacrifice of food, flowers, etc. They upgraded with the times.

THAT IS WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN NIGERIA, if the British were not ASSHOLES.

By now we should have BEAUTIFUL SHRINES AND TEMPLES to our various orishas and to the Most High.

Shrine in Osaka, Japan
https://www.howto-osaka.com/en/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/koyasan-4.jpg

Many people willingly abandoned their religion, they weren't entirely forced or coerced,

Again many people willingly abandoned their religion, they weren't forced or coerced.

guysbewise:
Igbos were the Fulanis in the sixties as the Igbos wanted to grab all the lands in the South South and South West un till they were tamed the Nigerian Army.

It's a lie,there's no way igbos could grab others land,they were headed to Lagos to attack the seat of Nigerias government not to grab lands

WizardOfNG:
That guy you responded to is really creepy. He is like a stalker of Yorubas and the major ethnic groups of Nigeria, as if he is desperate to belong with them, yet never mentions his own ethnic group.

Very creepy and mentally troubled character.

The major ethnic groups are big for nothing, doing nothing to develop the country, causing pain to minorities with their obnoxious slave laws and policies.in all countries the major groups decide the directions for a country ,for Nigeria the major groups are leading Nigeria to a pit

WizardOfNG:
Why are you so obsessed with the major ethnic groups of Nigeria? A girl you’re lusting after is refusing to screw you unless you’re Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa? It pathetic and kinda sick.

Be proud of your ethnic groups. Talk about and focus on them instead of coming here daily to bait the major ethnic groups especially Yorubas.

The major tribes, constituting the majority of Nigerians are a nuisance largely, not being able to move the country forward