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Basic123:
You are speaking nonsense.


ASK WHY IT WAS CHOOSED AS CAPITAL AND NOT YOUR VILLAGE IF IT WAS A BACKWARD CITY.

They were never CAPITALS but was built from the scratch by britain and FG unlike LAGOS.
THEY ARE ALL NOT DIFFERENT FROM ABUJA

LAGOS was chosen has the capital cos the British owned it after 1860,it was the first city the British held in Nigeria

Basic123:
Honestly!...ENUGU,KADUNA AND PH THAT WERE FOUNDED BY BRITAIN THEY WILL NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT.


BUT LAGOS THAT BRITAIN MET AS A THRIVING CITY!

Enugu,Kaduna and pH were never capitals of Nigeria, Lagos was capital for over 70years,if Lagos was a thriving city before the British, how come if was never notable as a Yoruba power but only oyo,Ibadan etc,Lagos was non thriving before the British

forgiveness:
Exactly. Nothing dey Kaduna until 1916 when it became the capital of northern region after it was moved from Zungeru.

Wetin dey Zungeru for 1913?

Wetin dey Lagos if not that it was sold in 1860

Jogs1900:
At that time, if they had built it in another state, it would have been a wasteful project.
The bottom line is Lagos was doing well on its own before being made the capital. The Yorubas even protested that they should move the capital to another location .

No matter what the capital being in Lagos was used as an avenue to exploit Lagos .

Every region was doing very well cos there was relatively good governance then until later on,it wasn't only LAGOS.By the way the British administered Lagos prior to independence,the Western government only ruled the Western region and Lagos briefly after independence for 6 years.

Jogs1900:
Someone already explained why the FG had influence in Yaba and Surulere to you..The same way Festac and trade fair in Lagos were built by the FG was the same way same festac and trade fair were built by the FG in Kaduna state as explained already. The same way FG invested in other states was the same way the same FG invested in Lagos state.

If we want to look at it, FG spent little of what they made in Lagos in Lagos state.

You can never deny the fact of FG influence in Lagos,it cannot be compared to other regions eg Festac was at a time the biggest estate in Nigeria, no were else was such investment made by FG

Christistruth00:
FG built them on leased Western Region Land because Lagos Island had run out of Space

Western Region was only helping out

Whether Western region land or not which had ended by 1966 by the way,those built up areas by the FG spurred development in Lagos rapidly compared to other areas

Jogs1900:
Abuja has been capital since 70s..Abuja influence is being felt in neighboring Niger state too...The colonialist knew they had more to gain in Lagos hence their reason for leaving Calabar..Yorubas didn't lobby for Lagos being the nations capital from the beginning till they finally left.

Before the capital was moved to Abuja, Lagos governors didn't go beyond the areas that were in the western region and federal influence didn't go beyond areas that were fct.
There was a saying then that gedegbe ni Eko wa.

Are you saying amuwo-odofin was part of the FCT then ? Cos Festac was built by the FG, trade fair also,satellite town,navy town,large swath of surelere eg the Eric Moore towers,lots of FG establishments were in yaba etc,the areas strictly under Lagos government weren't even very developed even toll today

Christistruth03:
No

Lagos was born a Billonaire in Boom Town

According to our History It was when Benin saw the wealth generated by Lagos

that it too decided to attack and that was in late fifteenth century

Ijebu and Awori were already trading with the Portuguese

Benin only wanted to join the party

Lagos was the main port of Northern Nigeria and Yorubaland so just imagine the Traffic

That was the same commercial traffic that made the ijebus the wealthiest Yoruba Tribe long before the British turned up

No,LAGOS wasn't the main port but whydah in Benin Republic and gwato port of Benin city who were the main traders outperforming the ijebu ,not until the late 18th to 19th century did Lagos become a major centre

Christistruth03:
No

Lagos was born a Billonaire in Boom Town

According to our History It was when Benin saw the wealth generated by Lagos

that it too decided to attack and that was in late fifteenth century

Ijebu and Awori were already trading with the Portuguese

Benin only wanted to join the party

Yes,however Benin effectively blockaded the area and trade fell for a long time till the late 18th century

Jogs1900:
Someone already told you that less than 1% of today's Lagos state was the capital...The state only derived its name from Lagos colony..What else do you want again.The beautiful Lekki and the industrial area of Ikeja were under the western region.
Maybe if the other areas of Lagos under former western region were given another state name not Lagos, it would have been clearer to you.
Lagos was an economic hub before it was made a capital unlike Abuja which was a desert before being made a capital. That is what they want you to understand. Lagos indigenes were not resettled unlike Abuja indigenes. Don't forget that Calabar was once the capital too.

Calabar was only the capital for few months,Lagos island( as you call it) was the capital for more than 70 years.

However the Western region ended in 1966 and Lagos was run as a state from then on,with a military governor excluding the short civilian tenures of jakande and otedola who were funded by FG.Lagos island as you say was the capital but it was actually the seat of government, FG influence extended beyond the capital (Lagos island) as they built areas beyond the Lagos island, especially in surulere/yaba,amuwo-odofin, Ojo,apapa and even beyond,Lagos was managed as a state with governors from different governors from 1966 not under the Western government.

forgiveness:
Which region had all these as at 1913? Mention one.

The north,especially Kaduna axis

forgiveness:
Lagos money was used to develop Nigeria. Lagos is different from Lagos state. Lagos state was developed by the Western region.

Lagos already had tram, railway, bridges, paved roads, street lights, electricity, telephone, banks, industries, port etc long before the entity Nigeria was formed.

If that's development, what is development?

Again other regions also had these things,the significant difference was Lagos eventually being made capital, that was what distinguished it from other regions

Christistruth03:
Lagos Island was the Capital

Not Lagos State

Look at Sanwo Olu of Lagos State
He was a
far more effective Governor than Buhari was a president

And your yourselves know it

Fasola was more Effective than Goodluck Jonathan and Yaradua

Be honest with yourself

Jakande and President Shagari couldn’t even be compared
Jakande was at least 20 times more effective than Shagari as a Leader

Even Ambode that was removed was commissioning over 20 new roads in a single day

True am not denying that since fasholas era there as been boost in effective governance of lagos,but the funds to run LAGOS was mainly from FG especially pre 2007 and Lagos was run like any other state pre 1999,the capital being in Lagos greatly boosted Lagos,that fact can't be denied.

Christistruth03:
Even under the Military Lagos Island was the Capital not Lagos State

They had completely different Budgets and Management

But the British and Lord Lugard founded and built Enugu and Umuahia yet you fully claim it

Under military governments, Lagos was run as a state not under Western government, it was funded by military FG funds from oil

Raskimonojendor:
You are the one that wasn't born in Lagos hence called Ikeja and Surulere a Ghetto since both were part of western region. Only for you to shift the goal post.

Western government only lasted few short years,subsequent development was from FG resources, sourced from Nigerdelta oil

forgiveness:
No! Lagos was already a prosperous city long before it became Capital.

It was Lagos money the British used to develop Nigeria.

Stop spreading false hood,the British did not develop Nigeria, however all the places they invested in was from the resources of those places,you people don't know LAGOS sha,Lagos was mostly undeveloped until the military governments kick started the development, they didn't even go far,Lagos only started developing significantly only recently

Mindlog:
Under which local government was Festac Town in, way back in 1976?

I asked because building that town was a Federal Government project and my father's block factory operating on a 24hrs production shift rotations by his Ghanian workers, was a key supplier of blocks used in the building of the town.

Don't mind them by 1976 the whole of LAGOS was capital under the military governments, they are are talking of Western region that ended in 1966 ,prior to 1966 most of Lagos was an underdeveloped village, it was the military governments that mainly developed LAGOS not even the British, not to talk of the regional government

Mindlog:
Under which local government was Festac Town in, way back in 1976?

I asked because building that town was a Federal Government project and my father's block factory operating on a 24hrs production shift rotations by his Ghanian workers, was a key supplier of blocks used in the building of the town.

Don't mind the people arguing blindly,after the British left in 1960 that was when Lagos had significant development, which was created by the FG through the military governments when they took over in 1966

forgiveness:
Lagos already had sea ports long before the entity Nigeria was formed. That's the point.

Besides, FG built sea ports in Port Harcourt, Calabar etc.

Calabar, brass ,Benin all had ports before Nigeria, however that Lagos was eventually made the capital of Nigeria was the significant difference

whitejs:
On point

All these places were rebuilt under Nigeria

forgiveness:
Sea port in Lagos was built before the entity Nigeria was formed in 1914.

The current sea port was built by the federal government and private sector

Christistruth03:
Good

The Lagos you are talking about is Lagos Island

The rest of Lagos State ( 99%)belongs to Awolowo’s people

It seems though that Most of you people arguing didn't grow up in Lagos,since after military governments took over in 1966 the whole of Lagos was administered under the FG as capital although Lagos still had a military governor exactly like the FCT minister.

Christistruth03:
Seat of Government was on Lagos Island


Lagos Island was very different to FCT

FCT was a dedicated Federal Capital the people were even moved elsewhere

though I hear FG is yet to Compensate them all

Maybe you weren't born and grew up in Lagos that's why,Lagos ,the whole Lagos was capital of Nigeria, Lagos governor was like FCT minister

Jogs1900:
All the states in Nigeria were heavily invested in during the military era..I don't know you peoples obsession with Lagos state..

There is nothing they did in Lagos state that they didn't do in Kaduna state..Even the festac and trade fair you mentioned they built in Kaduna state, there are festac buildings and Trade fair in Kaduna state.

LAGOS was the capital, you can't take that away,same is happening to Abuja now

Christistruth03:
The British left in 1960
It was Lord Lugard and the British who founded and built Enugu and Umuahia yet you still claim it as yours

Awolowo ruled more that 95% of Lagos State

Have you ever Heard of Gov Jakande Before?
He and Awolowo far outdid the FG by a huge Margin

It was Babangida who was the President that invested most in Lagos by building the 3rd Mainland Bridge but you must Remember that all Major Bridges in Nigeria are built by the FG including all the ones over River Niger

LAGOS was the capital of Nigeria, not Enugu or umahia

Christistruth03:
Lagos Island was the Capital not Lagos State

It was Lagos state the seat of government was just in Lagos island, exactly like the FCT,were the seat of government is in Abuja central but the capital extends to all areas over the FCT

Christistruth03:
The British left in 1960
It was Lord Lugard and the British who founded and built Enugu and Umuahia yet you still claim it as yours

Awolowo ruled more that 95% of Lagos State

Have you ever Heard of Gov Jakande Before?
He and Awolowo far outdid the FG by a huge Margin

It was Babangida who was the President that invested most in Lagos by building the 3rd Mainland Bridge but you must Remember that all Major Bridges in Nigeria are built by the FG including all the ones over River Niger

Babangida only completed the third mainland Bridge, all previous governments invested in Lagos including Obasanjo who built Festac and trade fair

Awolowo reign as Western region premeir was short,when the military governments took over,Lagos was funded from FG ,even during jakande tenure prior to that British government had started developing Lagos as against other regions/ states

Just hold your breath and imagine for a second.

Can you imagine how emasculating it is and how disgraceful in the eyes of other races that

Black majority tribes in the case of Nigeria
The Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo were the most enslaved humans on earth since beginning of creation.

Literally there are many nations now in the carribean,and major groups in south America and America that are purely composed of slave descedants.

Think of it whole countries of black slaves captured from mainly West and central Africa.

From mainly majority tribes like the Hausa,Yoruba and Igbo.

This is a heirloom of shame and stigma your ancestors passed down to you.

Black males are the most emasculated males in the world and they don't even know it.

Unfortunately innocent minority tribes who never engaged in slavery are suffering from associated stigmatisation of these majority tribes.

THE BLACKMALE IS THE MOST POWERLESS MALE IN THE WORLD.

JoeEeL:
They did in north africa and now shamelessly forcing their history as egyptians. You need to see the shameless thieves on facebook pages forcing their history to rhyme with ancient egypt of Immhotep and the Sphinx.

They're doing the same thing in Darfur region, North Sudan. The black north sudanese idiiots that went to war with south sudan, must be having their real fun now. They thought their muslim affiliation will spare them from the janjawid arab lunacy, now they're counting their costs. Thousands of black north sudanese killed in Darfur last month.

What is more painful is that this land called Sudan is the ancient Kush kingdom. In fact, Kush literally means land of blacks but today its been arabised with jihad under guise of oil wars.

Same thing in nigeria. Fulanis. Cursed mixed descendants from Bedouin and Edom trace their ancestry to arabs and are wiping off indigenous populations.

What is paining me is how the ordinary black man fail to heed to this pattern. Only west africa and southern africa are the remaining african aboriginals but you see them doing like mumu, underestimating the danger. Little wonder they took a lot of us as slaves both to these european and arabic demons.

Now nigeria was listed as an islamic nation and consulted on this current feud between Israel and Palestine. Yet (southern) nigerians just let it slide. This is why they've continued killing, pillaging and taxing people because they believe nonconformists are infidels. Remember how gumi, chief terrorist, put it during the start of their debacle with Wike?

Mehn, southern nigerians are just dead men walking.

The majority tribes of Hausa,Yoruba and Igbo especially have always been MUMUs and lameducks especially their MEN, that's why they were the most enslaved in all of history

XAUBulls:
@babasolution,

Why don't you lead the way by labelling the Arab Muslims as slaves since you are a Black African male? Lol.

Seriously speaking though, it's against humanity to label another with derogatory names and words, and I wouldn't do that normally tbh. I just simply ignore or do NOT acknowledge the presence of that person to pass a strong message. But people must stand up to face injustice whenever it arises. I remember that the U.S.-based academic Farooq Kperogi (who himself is a Muslim from the Bariba-speaking area of Kwara State) also wrote an article condemning the idiotic behavior of Arab Muslims calling people of Black African descent "abe*d" online and offline. Many African-American Muslims had also voiced their anger over the used of that racial slur called abe*d or slave by Arab Muslims. You can Google Kperogi's article to read more about that story a few years back.

Also, religion is one thing that definitely prevents Black Africans especially of Muslim backgrounds from speaking out against oppression by Arab Muslims. During the Sudanese crises in Dafur, Sudan, many Black Muslim Dafur citizens were killed and many of their women were gang raped by the government and Arab-backed supporter of APC fighters who rode on camel backs to commit these atrocities. I was shocked during that period in the 2000s because there was a DEAFENING silence from Muslims in Nigeria (which has the largest estimated Muslim population in Africa). I monitored the BBC and CNN extensively... NOT even a mass protest from the Muslim far-North of Nigeria or Niger Republic (by the Sultan or Imams and others) which both have historical ties to Sudan going back to centuries ago via back-and-forth travels.

The only people who spoke out about the atrocities in Dafur were non-Muslims in Africa, Whites and the rest of the world led by the United Nations. It has become a self-induced mind-control for these people.

I call any race that labels blacks slaves SLAVEs,let stupid blacks die in their religion

opamoses1:
So what stopped nembe, brass and Calabar from becoming richer since they were also running a parallel British trade. Some of you just type nonsense all day everyday on Nairaland.

LAGOS was eventually made the headquarters of the British and the capital of Nigeria, that's the difference

opamoses1:
Lagos was developed and ahead, of most if not all Nigerian cities, before the establishment of Nigeria. Western region is the region of the Yoruba stock which Lagos is one of. You don't like it, you can always jump into the lagoon.

The British and FG developed LAGOS till 1991