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Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 7:45pm On Jul 18, 2023
ORIENTATION101:
can you tender an expired document as Evidence to nail someone in court?


An expired passport does not invalidate one's citizenship status...
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 7:19pm On Jul 18, 2023
ORIENTATION101:
you fucking lied, there is no where in the whole wide world that a court will accept an expired document to validate a claim as Evidence. not even underdeveloped country like Nigeria.

Easy on the cussing just learn.

An expired passport does not invalidate someones citizenship. It is still a proof of citizenship but can't be used for travel or for identification..

But expired passport does not invalidate someone's citizenship status.
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 6:52pm On Jul 18, 2023
ORIENTATION101:
so what validates Tinubu as a Guinean citizen in the eyes of the law?

In the eyes of the law, a Nigerian with an expired passport is still a Nigerian citizen.

In the eyes of the law, an American with an expired passport is still an American.

An Austrialian with an expired passport is still an Aussie.
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 6:17pm On Jul 18, 2023
ORIENTATION101:
it doesn't in the eyes of law. . You say Tinubu has a dual citizenship, then bring the valid evidence not a passport that expired since 2020.

Does an expired passport invalidate one's citizenship? It doesn't .

So if one has an expired Nigerian passport, they are still a Nigerian citizen .

But will need to renew their passport if they want to use it for travel..
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 5:35pm On Jul 18, 2023
pquaver:


How do we know it was not withdrawn? You dont know expiration and renewal is also a control mechanism to check if the use people who clain to hold a passport actually deserves to? Is a form of citizenship verification...

If u r in unilag and ur student id expires, r u mot still thr same person, the same admission but unilag who issued u that id wont even allow say imto any event where an identification card is required...

Again obidients u can build nothing on nothing how many time will i explain expired to you= that it means invalid =0.. You have nothing.. I wont reply you people again as it is waste of time... Una be d real coconut head..

Stay on the topic being discussed so you can understand better..

School admission and citizenship are like apples and oranges.

An expired passport does not invalidate anyone's citizenship status.!!
Romance / Re: Nigerian Doctor Shares Her Battle With Loneliness In The UK by Badgers14: 4:56pm On Jul 18, 2023
Urheadmaster:
The same situation over here in Germany very hard to find a friend and worst of it all, they don't speak English which makes it harder angry

Don't be fooled by that.. most Germans speak and understand English aber as a matter of national pride.. they won't speak English.. you will be surprised if you are Fluent in German, on a very good day the same folks you thought don't speak English will be conversing with you in English and switching back amd forth depending on the conversation/topic

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Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 4:48pm On Jul 18, 2023
GCSolutions:
I don't always comment on nairaland but I think some people need to be enlightened.
Certificate of citizenship or naturalization to a country doesn't ever expire, and it is the ultimate proof of citizenship, whether through immigration, by birth etc. Passport is just a document to travel around and show to people that you are a citizen of a certain country. Yes, passports expire and has to be renewed but Certificate of citizenship doesn't. If my US passport expires, it doesn't take away my citizenship. Revocation of Certificate of citizenship is the only reason you can lose citizenship. So please get the facts right. If you are a Nigerian and you have an expired passport, you can prove your citizenship through other means, including your NIN, driver's license and other nationally recognized documents. I hope this throws light into the discussion. Woke Olanipekun is either naive or playing on the intelligence of Nigerians because he knows alot of people don't have the right information.

Mr. Wole can't come to the court empty handed.. he have to file something in court and that's what he did..

That's a skill from a veteran.

A veteran counsel, when they find themselves stuck in a difficult case or the facts are overwhelming against them or they want to buy more time in the case, they will sidestep/deflect the original argument and open up a different line of conversation in the case and pitch your tent there and see what happens.

(Recall, Mr. Olanipekun is not arguing on the authencity of the passport, he is sidestepping that and arguing the passport is expired cool grin )

This gives them time to find other grounds/arguments to support their case and get the masses talking..

Don't be surprised if this was originally leaked or posted online by someone affiliated to their camp.
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 4:42pm On Jul 18, 2023
pquaver:


Stop lying it was a copy of an expired passport which is my point.. So u dont even know crux of the matter and u jumped.. Tinubu lawyer does not have to defend anything because the expired passport is like tissues paper before the court.. It is expired mean invalid mean not existing.. Obidients must everything be spelt out for u people.. Carry expired passport to embassy na... After all u r the same person, ur nationality didn't change.. Una ho just dey argue without reasoning..

If you have a Nigerian passport, once it expires.. does that invalidate your Nigerian citizenship?

Similarly, if you have an American Passport or a British passport, if your passport expires, does that mean your U.S citizenship or your British citizenship have been invalidated?
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 3:28pm On Jul 18, 2023
ORIENTATION101:
no you re just the idiot here. Tinubu is not a Guinean by birth and he has no ancestral attachment to the country, he got his citizenship as honorary . If you say Tinubu is a Guinean in court, you have to provide it with valid documents not expired passport. The court don't care your emotions what they want is a clear Evidence to back up your claims.

An expired passport does not invalidate one's citizenship status.
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 3:07pm On Jul 18, 2023
pquaver:


Obidient i have told u people to have sense .. Burden of proof lies with accuser.. You have to prove is Guinean... The lawyer knows that is a herculean task for tha accuser why bother? You want him to help pdp? He might actually be cos me sef dont know but a court is a place of evidence... You have proof what u claim.. An expired passport is invalid and holds no water anywhere..

Focus on the topic and don't attack the speaker..

Research, "meta-arguments".

However LP and PDP got a copy of Tinubu's passport was not debated.. Tinubu's lawyer is not even disputing the authenticity of the passport..

His argument is not that the passport is fake but that the said passport is expired.
Education / Re: Poor Result From UNICAL Mathematics Department by Badgers14: 1:34pm On Jul 18, 2023
Benblaq:
Would you fault this result on the students or lecturer?

The lecturer should be fired..

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Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 12:25pm On Jul 18, 2023
pquaver:


Good now u r talking.. Can ushow us Tinubu oath of alligence or renunciation.in fact why should Tinubu help u in a case the burden lies with u. ..

There are many chadians in Nigeria, malians and other countries.. How do u determine who is Nigerian? U must present documentary evidence.. That is my point.. Presenting and expired passport that is invalid is same as present tissue paper in court.. Do u get it now...

grin grin

You see, Tinubu's case is quite unique.. even if anyone loves Tinubu, his case is very tricky to defend.

First, according to the posts here in Nairaland, Tinubu's lawyer was not denying that his client ever held a Guinea passport, he is saying since his passport expired, he is no longer a citizen of that country.

And you are RIGHT by asking where is his renunciation?? grin

Ones citizenship is not solely determined by whether they have a passport or not.. there many Nigerians that do not have a passport. That doesn't mean they are not Nigerians.
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 12:15pm On Jul 18, 2023
pquaver:


Olanipeku knows exactly what he is saying.. He is telling that that passport is invalid which turns to the case from pdp into hear say. just like me here now saying u r a Cameroonian.. So it is word of mouth the onus noe falls on me to prove my accusation.

You might have misunderstood Mr. Olanipekun.. he said because Tinubu's Guinea passport have expired, he is no longer their citizen.
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Guinean Citizenship Expired Once His Passport Expired- Wole Olanipekun by Badgers14: 10:38am On Jul 18, 2023
pquaver:


Stop hyerventilating. Expired passport means passport is no longer valid.. Every citizenship has documentary proof.. Oya go to ur state liason office in abuja and tell them u r from tge state just by word of mouth if they will not throw u away like dustbin... Bring proof of the citizenship shikena


That's not the way it works.

So if someone's Nigeria passport expires, does that mean they are no longer a Nigerian citizens??

Their is a different process to give up citizenship, it is through renunciation.. somewhat lengthy process depending on the country.

Mr. Wole Olanipekun SAN is just ridiculing himself by that statement..

People let's not be blinded by our political support, the statement by Tinubu's lawyer if admitted by the court can cause chaos in the Nigeria.

Renunciation of citizenship costs money and its lengthy process... so if the court accepts Mr. Olanipekun's submission.. then once anyone's Nigerian passport expired, they can just declare they are no longer a Nigerian citizen..
Travel / Re: FRSC Can Only Operate On FG Roads, Appeal Court Rules by Badgers14: 9:45pm On Jul 17, 2023
Anywhere Belle face grin grin

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Sports / Re: Chelsea Are Considering Entering The Race For Harry Maguire by Badgers14: 9:43pm On Jul 17, 2023
I still don't understand why Maguire flops at Manutd and does a little better for the National team?

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Sports / Re: Chelsea Are Considering Entering The Race For Harry Maguire by Badgers14: 9:42pm On Jul 17, 2023
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Politics / Re: Withdrawal Of Mobile Police Escort From Vips Is Fake News - Nigeria Police Force by Badgers14: 6:16pm On Jul 17, 2023
Usually it is forward ever backwards never..

For Nigerian politics, it is forward never, backward ever grin
Romance / Re: Photos Of A Cute Couple Who Met On Nairaland by Badgers14: 8:06pm On Jul 16, 2023
Politics / Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Badgers14: 8:00pm On Jul 16, 2023
Tntsi:
Defending tunubu will make you go yagayaga.
Defending tinubu , you will have to confuse and derail yourself, derail the court AND derail the people.
Don't be shocked to see them quote 1922 Clifford co stitution to defend him.
Tinubu matter is a ridicule , shame and reproach before God and man.

grin grin

They might cite a case involving the Governor General in 1814 grin

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Politics / Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Badgers14: 7:56pm On Jul 16, 2023
Penguin2:


https://twitter.com/AustinNwabufo/status/1680434282739662848?t=WaX_LL4N5AXmFntMIfABWw&s=19


Reading through the written address of Tinubu and Shettima lawyers at the ongoing election petition tribunal led by supposed respected senior lawyer Wole Olanipekun, one can’t help but giggle at the hollowness and shallowness of their defense.

In the address, Mr Olanipekun was busy citing the case of Shagari vs Awolowo that happened as far back as 1979 under the 1979 Constitution and in election conducted by FEDECO, as our electoral commission was called then.

Since 1979, we’ve have had many reformations to our electoral laws and have even changed our constitution.

If anything, the most relevant case as far as election cases are concerned in Nigeria today, is the Supreme Court ruling in Osun in case of Oyetola vs Adeleke. This case is the most relevant because it is the only Supreme Court decision since the Electoral Act 2022 came into force.

Ironically, Mr Olanipekun surreptitiously ignored the Osun case which has a lot of similarities with the case at PEPT as they both bother on the place of technology in our election and to what degree INEC can choose to apply or ignore technology in our elections.

It is pertinent to state these things for the world to hear, read and see, so that we all keep an eye on the judiciary and see what comes out it.

Remember that it is not enough to do justice, justice must also be seen to have been done.

When Mr. Wole was announced as Tinubu's lead counsel, many people were celebrating saying Peter Obi is in trouble.

While Mr. Wole Olanipekun SAN is a legal luminary in his right.. some cases are difficult to defend..

There's is no trial lawyer with the amount of caseload this senior chambers handle that have never lost a case before.

If someone is caught in someone's house with their hands in the neighbors pot of soup. even 20 Respected SANs will have a hard time with the case trying to find a loop hole in the case.

With Tinubu's case, it's a bit difficult even with the rotten nature of our judiciary..

Now people have there eyes wide open.. the suffering is too much and there weren't many Ghana must go bag that went around during the election due to naira scarcity..

And someone mentioned that was probably why they are dragging Emefiele up and down suing him in "Lagos" while he lives in "Abuja".
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by Badgers14: 6:20pm On Jul 16, 2023
Guyman01:
The apprehension in Tinubu's camp is real about the 25% in FCT.

Because there's a supreme court precedent against them

Supreme court in a case they decided I think in 2011 were the ones that interpreted the law like that.

the tribunal being a lower court cannot reverse a supreme court so most likely the tribunal will rule against Tinubu and the onus will rest on the supreme court to either reverse itself or uphold their precedent..

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 8:49pm On Jul 15, 2023
gbadexy:

From hindsight, I should have located other families or more reassuring looking people traveling to her destination and paired her with them or at least introduce them so that she can tag along and observe how they navigate there.
While ensuring she had enough data, I didn't check the battery level or ensured the charger is within easy reach in the waist bag with her documents.
More solid arrangement should have been made to cover the stages during the stopover.
Definitely no traveling alone for elderly people especially if it involves stop over.

It's all good Chief, we live - we learn grin

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 8:38pm On Jul 15, 2023
gbadexy:

She is with my people. I think her phone battery went off. It was the series of confusing messages sent to my brother that made him panic when we couldn't reach her via WhatsApp again. Thanks very much for your concern sir.

You are welcome and I am glad it was all smiles at the end..

Remember, we learn from events and I do hope other people will learn from this incident as well.
Politics / Re: Charge Sheet For Godwin Emefiele by Badgers14: 7:20pm On Jul 15, 2023
nairalandkachy1:
Chargesheet for Suspended CBN Gov, Godwin Emefiele


Why is he being sued in lagos when he lives in Abuja? shocked

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Family / Re: Marriage: Women Decry Lack Of Financially Eligible Suitors by Badgers14: 6:15pm On Jul 15, 2023
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Crime / Re: 28-Year-Old Obianuju Emmanuella Anyaibe Is Missing (Photo) by Badgers14: 4:37pm On Jul 15, 2023
bluefilm:


Have you ever tried doing it?

You will find out that the process involved is not so simple & straightforward.

There are some bureaucratic papers and conditions that must be fulfilled by the law to make sure that the phone companies are not making the situation worse by exposing the victim's information.

This is a law enforcement request and not individual request.

Usually law enforcement are giving easier process to follow..
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 4:34pm On Jul 15, 2023
gbadexy:

Alright sir. Thanks

Which airport in Egypt?

Last you communicated with her, did she tell you what terminal she was on?

Note to all and myself: whenever you have anyone stranded in a place and maybe their battery is dying or what not.. just tell them to stay in one place maybe a big business like shoprite etc..or a bank or a terminal (if it's an airport) and let you know what terminal that is..

In that way, it is easier to trace them.. now in our situation here.. everyone, even the airline will see the task as voluminous to look around in the airport for her.. but if the search area is narrowed down , it will be easier..

Also, if you can assess the airline here in Nigeria.. I am sure they will have a way to communicate with their counterparts and maybe make announcements in airport and try to find her.


Cheers!!

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Crime / Re: 28-Year-Old Obianuju Emmanuella Anyaibe Is Missing (Photo) by Badgers14: 4:23pm On Jul 15, 2023
All this missing people here and there but there are technologies out there, easily accessible to help solve these cases..

What happened to reaching out to her phone company to identify where last her phone pinged and narrow the search..

The phone company can check her last call, last text so give law enforcement some directions..

Why are this things that hard to do??

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Crime / Re: 28-Year-Old Obianuju Emmanuella Anyaibe Is Missing (Photo) by Badgers14: 4:21pm On Jul 15, 2023
post=124423365:


Are You Really Referring GLOBAL LTD COMPANY, To Be Acting Childish?

Do You Really Want Our Company To Sue You?

Sue him on what grounds??
Education / Re: Where Is The Ball Placed? by Badgers14: 7:51pm On Jul 14, 2023
DesChyko:
On top of the inside 😠

grin

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Politics / Re: Court Orders Immediate Release Of Emefiele, Bars DSS From Re-arresting Him by Badgers14: 6:11pm On Jul 14, 2023
baralatie:

Which street
Ojuelegba or ahmadu bello

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