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Chekitaut:
thaks Sir K, God bless you.

Do you still supply granite?

Response please

Please how many days do I have to wait after the ground floor decking before raising blocks on it for the first floor?

Secondly the blocks on my ground Floor have been completely raised from DPC and now waiting for lintel and decking but I want to leave it like that until end of February before going ahead with the next step. Is it okay leaving the blocks open for that long?(5 moths)

Knowledgeable members kindly help with this urgent question.

Thanks

Please how many days do I have to wait after the ground floor decking before raising blocks on it for the first floor?

Secondly the blocks on my ground Floor have been completely raised from DPC and now waiting for lintel and decking but I want to leave it like that until end of February before going ahead with the next step. Is it okay leaving the blocks open for that long?(5 moths)

Knowledgeable members kindly help with this urgent question.

Thanks

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Do you have a thread for your electrical work displayed and the cost of your electrical wires?

topsy23:
The price of the pipes looks like niger pipe. I guess this is not Lagos,

It’s in Portharcourt

EgunMogaji2:
We recently discussed cables on here. One of the premier builders here swears by Cutix and I’ll try it on my next project but I use Coleman.

Good luck on your project.

Thanks for your response

I asked him about Cutix and he said (it’s very expensive and We have other quality wires of reduced price, Cutix has gotten competitor with good quality But if u are ready for cutix we can go for it) according to the Electrician

twinskenny:
please which state is this?

the prices of each of the item are high... and the quantity too

original diginity 20mm pipe is around 12/13k lagos.. (though might be different from other state)

the 3x3 knock out is still around 1300 same with the 3x6 boxes

the labour is high too

good luck

Thanks for the response, it’s in Portharcourt

Please any recommendations for reliable electrical wire sellers in Lagos or Onitsha or any other place ?

What amount can I negotiate for the Labour?

Bosses please help me and access this quotation i got from an electrician for only the ground floor of a 2bedroom and 3bedroom flat in a 2-storey building.

Please I would need all advices on the type of good wiring to use for steps to follow when wiring a building because I believe wiring is one of the most important aspect of any building.

It's a rented flat but i would need good wires to buy that would last very long with good durability.

He said the Labour charge is negotiable and the cost of the pipe is the bendable one for conduit, he said the boxes can stand the test of time and the distribution box is the second grade.


Please I need your inputs on this!!!!

sonnie10:

I don’t know how far you have gone with this project but for a project of this nature, your best bet is to negotiate everything with a contractor, preferably one with building experience like an engineer .

If I may ask, what exactly is job of the engineer you already have? You would say supervision right?
You are short changing yourself by separating his role from that of those involved in sourcing for direct labor. Let him source the labor, but make sure you negotiate well .

Doing it one by one, you might end up spending more. For instance right now you have more than 500k for labour alone.
Most contractors would accept that amount and even bear responsibility for whatever risk involved.
You only job would be to supply the materials and form boss.

The job of the engineer is just to supervise the site and direct the workers to make sure they are going in line with the Plan.

I gave him the opportunity to source for Example carpenter and Iron bender but I wasn't satisfied because they were both overcharging me and then i got different Iron bender and Carpenter to do the jobs that's why I don't give the Engineer the room to bring his own artisans but his masons are the ones still laying the blocks and also his welder did my overhead tank stand.


Please what do you mean one by one? Each artisian wants to do the work in stages e.g Ground floor then First floor and so on. So they quote their charges and materials based on each stage of the building.

EgunMogaji2:
This is beyond my skill level Sir. I’ll yield the floor to the professionals. Consider paying QSFemi for the work.

Okay sir thanks for your response

What is the Estimated Cost for Decking of L21.225 X W12.525m about 429sqm (with 29 pillars) 2-Storey Building in Port-Harcourt area.

Please I would like to know the quantity of materials that will be needed for the decking

My blocks are moulded on site (25 blocks per 1 cement Bag)

(Egs: Iron Rods, Cements, Sharp Sand, Gravels, Woods, Bamboo sticks, number of persons, Casting Cost and Bricklayer Labour cost. etc.

The Iron bender is going to do Chain Lintel, beams, decking beams, Staircase Hall and decking ( My Iron bender is charging me #120,000 for decking and #50,000 for Lintel chain beam) Please is this not too much for the Labour cost of Iron bending?


My Engineer says Lintel 9inches with mortar, decking 6inches with granite and sharp sand. 4 blocks laid to window and then 5 blocks to lintel = total from ground to lintel is 9 blocks then plus lintel makes it 10 blocks, then add 2 more blocks then bring out a decking beam (protector of the load bearing blocks)

Materials suggested by my Engineer (Y16 -90length, Y12- 320 Length, Y8 -60Length), 2 Rolls of binding wire and as for Number of bags of cement he said 60 bags plus or minus.

Also please see attached quotation given to me by the carpenter (My head is paining me after seeing this oh.....omg ) He said he gave me 2 Quotations for complete wood and under size wood. the complete wood is more thicker than the under size wood. He will construct and remove boards to reuse on other sides. I talked to the carpenter and he reduced the quotation to the below prices

Lintels/beams - 70k
Pillars - 40k
Beams - 30k
Decking - 170k
Staircase - 15k
Loosing of decking - 50k
Total Carpenter Labour cost #375,000


Please our experienced Ogas in the house I would really appreciate the amount of materials that would be needed for this and the labour cost.

BarrMary


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michlins:
sir, I will tell you from experience as a welder. You are better off with H channel. This is same thing used in making steel bridges. Don't ever try anything pipe because it will definitely retain water. And no matter how thick the iron is, with long exposure to water and other atmospheric factors, it will rust.

Having said that, you can make your decision yourself. BTW, you don't need 40ft for a two storey building. At best, you need 35ft tall tank

Thanks very much for your response and I will get back to my welder and Engineer regarding this.

KolaShangOne:
I guess he's taking from his own experience. I don't know if 4" / 10mm pipes will carry 4 tanks of maybe 2000L each.. but I'm sure H-beam of the right thickness and build will carry it.

I think you're better off with a steel tank of say 6,000- 8000 litres if you have some few millions to spend.

Thanks for the response Sir, the steel tank makes sense but its the millions that will be the concern

Dijita:
Sorry I am unable to advise you on water stand. It is the most bitter experience in my project . The family member I asked to do mine shopped the money. Had to give it to somebody else to finish it for me.
Good luck. Its going to be a very good house when you finish it.

Sorry to hear that Sir, May God deliver us from those type of family members...

I hope they eventually finish it up for you.

EgunMogaji2:
On this crucial structure I’ll defer to the pros. I used pipes but it will be coming down in the near future because I’ll be using a ground based Storex with a pressure pump.

Good luck on your project.

Okay thanks Sir for your response. I appreciate your time.

n3xt:
Oh that’s five. I thought it was a Lagos project.



That thickness is not something you easily see around. Not to talk of the length.



It’s just a personal thing though. I’d rather prefer a welded H-Beam to a welded pipe



You should be fine with GeePee Tanks. But if your budget allows it, Steel Overhead Tank is not bad either. You can even go for a Braithwaite Overhead Tank.



You’re welcome!

Okay Boss, thanks I will put all you have said into consideration. H-Beam even comes out finer from the ones I’ve seen so far

n3xt:
I guess that steel village will be Owode Onirin and the pipe will not be a new one.

Standard pipe is 18ft long. But you can get some industrial pipes in Owode that can span over 30ft.

If it’s H-Beam, you can get up to 38ft.

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The tank in the pics is Steel Overhead Tank.

The building is in PHC sir. So it’s the Steel village in Port Harcourt.

So you think he can’t get a new 40ft length 4inches new pipes in the market?

Also please the first time you replied and said hope he’s not welding else I should go for the H-beam, please what do you mean by this?

And should I put the Steel overhead tank into consideration instead of the GP tanks I instead to use?

Thanks so much Boss and I appreciate your time you take in replying my questions.

n3xt:
His recommendation is not bad but where he’d get a full 40ft length of 4 inches pipe (10mm thickness) is the only thing that bother me here. If he’s still going to weld, then I’d rather stay with H-Beam.

However, H-Beam Tank Tower last forever when installed by the Pros.

Thanks very much Boss for your response, so far the welder has informed me he’s getting a complete length of 40ft length of 4 inches pipe (10mm thickness) at Steel village and I will also ask someone to go with him to buy the materials, it cost 140k for each of the pipes. For me I like H-Beams and most people use them but he said it’s not advisable so if he can see the complete length then his advice is notable I guess. I plan to use 2500 litres(4 no’s) of water tanks.

This your picture please what type of tank is that? Do you advice I use GP tanks or is there something more reliable I can use instead like what you have on the picture ?

Goodmorning to our Able and wonderful Building Experts here,

Attached is my building plan and please you can give any advice as i just finished with the German floor since May this year. I intend to make the 2nd floor just for my family alone so it will be joint 4bedroom flat at the 2nd floor of the building.

Please I am building a 2-storey building with 3 bedroom flats on the right and 2 bedroom flats on the left side.

I am doe with my DPC (German floor) and I would please need advice for making my OVERHEAD TANK STAND.

My Engineer advises me to use 40ft length 4inches steel Pipes with 10mm thickness, that i shouldn't use H-Beam because it doesn't last.

Please is it true that H-Beam doesn't last for Overhead tank Stand? Please Gurus in the house help me out here and Guide me....Thanks

cc; n3xt
EgunMogaji2
Dijita
KolaShangOne
rotecch77
And any other member that can also advice.

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