WispyEthereal: And what exactly does this prove? I said medic my foot and that stands, I watched both clips and the full fiftysomething minutes of your you tube video, you know what I saw? Police shooting rubber bullets in the air most likely, and flashbangs according to the lady recording to disperse the crowd from Sheridan road back to where most armed protect the blue or protect a property protesters were assembled at a gas station, most armed, there were exchanges, there was confrontation all mostly verbal and a few shovings here and there, all this in the midst of two obviously armed groups, I saw protesters throwing projectiles at the police, two people were hit, one wasn't shown and the commentary alleged it was rubber bullets, the other lady who was limping whom Rittenhouse was trying to present himself as an EMT to was hit by a projectile (unspecified), Rittenhouse himself was waaaay forward of the others who claimed to be protecting properties, for better or worse that was the protesters zone along that road by default. But all that doesn't matter, there were very many people with guns and by that video on that night, the only people shot at or should i add "deliberately" shot at in respect to the unseen person suspectedly hit by a rubber bullet, and the only persons killed were all shot by the murderer Rittenhouse! He simply had no right to be there except to protest against the police, those of his inclination were further down the road as the video clearly showed So own the rotteness of your own mindset, your "my killer is holier than yours attitude" and there is no evidence that you will present that will change that, in any other civilised society that animal will be in jail already.
This is rich from a guy who thinks a murderer that espouses his political ideology should be canonised and made a saint and all his sins whitewashed and behold he is a born again new creature and if others don't buy his silly narrative he cries foul and tries to compare a murderer to actual victims in a bout of fevered false equivalency! Mr miss me with your sanctimonious BS! And I never said a counter protester should be murdered, gosh! Are you benalvino3 's spoof account, because you are beginning to act like him, I said a murderer should be murdered or executed because there were many counter protesters on that night, only one of them murdered people, feel free to reinterpret as you see fit!
I type from my recollection, except the topic is stimulating I won't research it, I don't argue to win, having said that, I stand corrected, I remember writing "I stand to be corrected though" and that is all that is, so you have proven that arbery was due to be served a trespass notice, until he was he hadn't been served one and as such that is inconsequential
Oh but it does, to justify a murder by cannonisers of murderers like you, something must be made to stick, something to cast shade on the character of the personality that was the victim, even breona Taylor wasn't spared, her crime was having an ex who was a suspected drug dealer, trayvon martins was accused of being physically imposing for a child and standing his ground against a stranger trailing him without justification, the list never ends, the young kid whose name I have forgotten who was murdered in the fiftees on the accusation of a white woman as having assaulted her is still there, black wall street tulsa was burned down because of a white young female elevator operator ran out screaming because a black shoe shine boy entered the lift and a white mob naturally assumed she had been assaulted, a boy silently released without charges later after a successful black community had been burned down and many blacks murdered. So you cannonisers of murderers have a playbook, murder someone, cast doubt on the victim's personality, if that fails, plead mental insanity, the white ace in the hole getaway card
You shouldn't have, because I am drawing parallels between BLM and #EndSars and protests can be organised to the best of peoples abilities but there will always be people outside the cause who exploit that to commit crimes but it never in any way discredits the protesters or the protests
Destruction and looting of businesses by who? That is the critical question to points to your duplicity, you are rushing headlong to ascribe all that to the protesters because that is the only way to validate your pretensions that BLM protesters were violent and destructive
WispyEthereal: oga kip kwayet! Putting out fires and rendering first aid my foot! The only people that were shot and killed were all by him, his presence was to escalate things, simple on that fateful night no Rittenhouse, no deaths, in other protests armed protesters have thrown missiles, used bats and other weapons without resorting to their guns because they understood that implied escalation, they go there with their guns to grandstand and show that they will not be intimidated but that murderer went there to kill, and his disallowed video shows that it was premeditated! We know your default position of "my murderer is holier and more innocent than yours" so stop pretending like logic and not bias has anything to do with your reasons. His life was under no threat until he decided to adventure beyond his enclave of blue lifers towards the other side of the divide where he wasn't welcome.
WispyEthereal: You can read anything you like into what I said about my biases but that was me admitting I had biases, acknowledging them and preventing them from affecting or influencing any logical decisions I make which is something you're apparently incapable of! You wont see me take a side then proselytise it as the sacrosanct gospel for all times unneeding of any change in the future, I speak for the now with reference to the past and an open mind to the future. People like you are incapable of any positive change in life, always sticking to what works for and benefits you alone irrespective of how many other people are hurting.
This coming from the guy that thinks counter protesting is grounds for murder is fvcking amazing.
WispyEthereal: The trespass complaints against arbery were made by whom? For trespassing on what property? Definitely not the owner who if I remember correctly he had previously met for a construction job on site! Correct me please if I am wrong! You all have a pathological need to criminalise and taint the memories and personality of the victims of criminal actions in other to justify the necessity of the criminal acts by the perpetrators! That said you definitely think he should have died for some other reason you can justify if not for trespassing but since that opinion is untenable you keep throwing mud at his memory to see what will stick! Shame on you! Who else will you compare the murderer Rittenhouse to next? Jesus?
Bro, I don't even know what's wrong you. Stop embarrassing yourself
Thai said, how does a trespassing warning even taint someone's memory? Trespassing is a trivial matter and Arbery shouldn't have been chased and killed by those men.
WispyEthereal: Another curiosity, did you support the #EndSars protests in Nigeria last year or not?
I supported the protests which actually started out peaceful. I even had some siblings go because my folks were hesitant about all of us going. The Lekki Toll Gate incident was a tragedy that made me lose all how in this country.
However, I did not support the destruction and looting of businesses and I did not support the harassment of drivers to say "end sars".
WispyEthereal: no I'm saying he deliberately went looking for trouble by counter protesting a protest against police brutality, the rest stuff you're cooking up is secondary to the initial choice to go counter protesting.
So counter protesting should be punishable by death, right? He wasn't even protesting though, he was putting out fires and rendering first aid. Numerous witnesses testified that this was the case. There's video evidence of his group helping a girl who hurt her leg. Even if he was there for the sole purpose of protesting Blue Lives Matter, does he forfeit his right to life?
WispyEthereal: If SUV guy was getting lynched by the mob and I found out he previously made threats against that mob and went out of his way to make himself physically present at the mobs location without any logical reason to be there, the biased part of my mind will laud him for bravery but my logical and superior self will condemn his recklessness and look away while he faces the consequences of his action, I will be rooting for him to scale through of course but I will be very silent about my bias because I know my support is biased.
You're probably the kind of person who would support stuff like the Charlie Hebdo killings if you were Muslim. Social media posts are now an excuse for murder? People should die for political views? What about religion? F--k it, maybe Barcelona fans should be killing Madrid fans in their midst of he starts talking smack. Shame on you, man.
WispyEthereal: And ahmaud arbery had every right to be in the building, as it is under construction and no no trespass notice was placed. It is natural human curiosity to want to see the progression of an ongoing construction, he never entered anybody's residents so he never trespassed, also he never went looking for trouble as he was unaware he had enemies in that neighbourhood, so before you go drawing another false equivalency as you are often wont to do, go for a psychological evaluation because your quest to cannonise the murderer Rittenhouse has got you drawing parallels between him and rape victims and now ahmaud arbery, so again for the upteenth time Rittenhouse is a perpetrator not a victim! He is as much a victim as SUV man and you know yourself what that's worth
The police even stated he was on track to receive a trespass warning because he'd been reported several times. That said, I agree that he shouldn't have died for trespassing. Why? I'm not a stupid degenerate who thinks that people who do minor stuff like trespass into an unoccupied building or disagree with me during a protest should be killed.
WispyEthereal: oh miss me with the BS, okay the guy who killed people with his car was defending himself from a violent mob of white berserkers and he panicked too and ran them over! Happy? If you want us all to be stup!d I can humor you till year's end, same reason this guy had no reasonable excuse to be at this parade was same reason Rittenhouse had no reason to be at those protests, their presence smirks of premeditation and if this guys Facebook posts threatening violence is to be taken into account so is the video of kyle threatening to kill people at the pharmacy and have a go at the BLM protesters disallowed by the racist fvck of a duplicitous judge from being allowed into entry as evidence! Conceive a thought, state it out, execute said thought all equals premeditation! If you can accept it for this guy but can't accept it for Rittenhouse then you are the one who needs to check the influence of your bias on your thought processes
So you're saying he deliberately orchestrated getting chased by an angry mob, getting cornered, having his weapon grabbed before shooting a guy before proceeding to call the police and tell them he just shot someone.
He then proceeded to tell others, wait around until the mob advanced, get chased, get pelted with objects, fall on his ass, get kicked in the face, get bludgeoned multiple times with a weapon before shooting his attacker, he then didn't shoot the guy who puts his hands up until he grabbed a pistol and pointed it at him.
If he was a murderous coward wouldn't he just have started killing people like your guy? There's literally video evidence of Rittenhouse getting chased so your argument is complete garbage.
Furthermore, he had as much right to be at the riot as all the people involved in the incident—which is none, since they were all out past curfew. If SUV man was getting lynched by the mob would you be asking whether he had the right to be there?
Ahmaud Arbery had no right to be in the building he was exiting before he got chased and killed but I won't say he deserved to have been murdered because I'm not a morally bankrupt troglodyte.
WispyEthereal: the only one drawing equivalence in that manner here is you, the equivalence we draw is that both are murderers and both should be locked away but you are a classic case of " my murderer is more innocent than yours" that is the name of the game coonservatives play, how to kill a liberal and get away with it and pretend to be shocked if there is any sort of counter aggression and wail to demonise it, the same thing you tried to do to antifa while normalising the proud boys, the boogaloos, oath keepers and their ilks
Self-defence is not murder. If you can't admit that there's a legal and moral distinction between shooting and killing people who chased you with an angry mob and grabbed your gun; beat you in the head with a skateboard; and pointed a pistol you and driving into a group of people doing a holiday parade then you're just being dishonest.
Also, when did I normalize the Proud Boys? They're just as bad as Antifa and I love watching them fight each other because they're both idiots.
WispyEthereal: like I said I am not holding water for him as I don't adhere to his standards, he will stand trial and the quality of his lawyers and bias of the system will determine his fate but still I insist, if he were white he will very much more likely escape murder charges, but that is my opinion, what you won't see me doing is alluding to the excuse that he was driving away from a knife fight when he ran into those people, If the reverse were the case, the right wing media will runaway with that narrative and sow reasonable doubt in the mind of the public and potential Jury as that is how they game a system already primed for their benefit
Yeah like how they first came out and said that he may have been attempting to evade police and described the event as a 'crash' when in actuality he wasn't being chased by police and it was a terrorist attack.
WispyEthereal: once again, how does it stop it from being racism?
For it to have been a racist attack he must've targeted them because they were Jewish. The problem is that he had no way of knowing that they were and the even bigger problem is that they all attacked him.
benalvino3: That guy was openly calling for the attack of white people after rittenhouse acquital. It's a terror attack
Its funny how joy Biden have not visited the family of the dead or the victims injured in the hospital.
If he victims are criminals, from thugs to pedophiles, you would have Seen Biden at their homes or with their families.
In their minds, Rittenhouse killing 2 white people who were violently attacking was a racially motivated killing while this guy killing 8 white people who were just parading the street after making posts advocating racial violence was just "politically motivated"
WispyEthereal: mentally ill? Nah! Politically motivated? My opinion, most definitely. But hey this is America, If he can plead a case for insanity I guess he can escape murder conviction if he were white bad luck to him though, what you won't see left leaning monikers here do, is hold water for him and make excuses for this murderer except to point out the rights hypocrisy in the media portrayals and the narratives propagated
If you intentionally drive a car into a random group of people you're probably mentally ill in my opinion. It's not an excuse for his actions, I don't think he's mentally unfit to stand trial.
I find it interesting that you mention him escaping prison is he were white when he was granted bail after being arrested for jumping bail. This mf was arrested for running over his ex-gf a week before he ran over a group of people.
If anything, he should've been charged with a hate crime on top of murder since he talked about "knocking white people the f-- out on social media". I can only imagine how the media would've reported it if a white guy ran over a bunch of black people after making racist posts about knocking them out.
WispyEthereal: the bolded is a dumb take, firstly "Hispanic" and "Latinos" does not specifically denote race, there are white Hispanics, black Hispanics and all shades in between, and among Hispanics/Latinos racism against dark skinned Latinos is a factual issue in the community, so racism by an Hispanic against a Jew is a factual possibility depending on the type of Hispanic, also isn't the founder of the proud boys Hispanic? Does that make him any less racist?
LOL are you saying that Kyle Rittenhouse suddenly gained psychic powers to know and target three Jews while intentionally missing the black guy that drop kicked him?
Baddestguyp: Just finished netflix's Cowboy bebop... I haven't watched the anime it's based on...only seen a few clips ...so I can't compare
But I enjoyed the Netflix tv series of cowboy bebop... I rate it a 7.5/10... Would have been an 8/10 but I didn't like that twist at the end...
I, on the other hand, have seen the original and only a few clips of the Netflix version. From what I've seen the acting bad and the dialogue is lame AF.
basilico: Guy who drove his vehicle through a Christmas parade killing at least 5 and injuring over 40 has been arrested. Black guy in dreadlocks, just released from jail a few days ago.
The man in custody over the mass casualty incident at the #Waukesha, Wis. Christmas parade has posts on his social media in support of BLM causes, George Floyd & black nationalism. He also has a post about how to get away with running people over on the street
Was he just a mentally ill dude lashing out violently was he manually ill dude lashing out violently due to the lies and provocation coming from the media?
Let's stay tuned and see first. We don't know if this was politically motivated or not.
Ibime: The American National Socialist movement (literally Nazi movement) is led by a black man who has been a member since 1994.
Feel free to fill in your application
The leader of the movement changed his ways and signed it over Stern who is a black activist.
Did you seriously just malign a black rights activist as a white supremacist because you were too eager to make a point and didn't read past the headline?
I can now see why you're so susceptible to media manipulation.
I should probably go back to the anime forum, people are more mature there.
Ibime: If a far right nut like you can identify them as KKK, who am I to argue. What is known need not be explained. Even KKK claims not to be racist in this day and age.
Most neo-Nazi groups disavow Nazism these days. That's the new format they use to package themselves . . . yet you rightly identified them the first time.
Only a foolish neo-Nazi will still be claiming KKK in this modern internet age, when he can blend in unnoticed with Proud Boys or even MAGA crowd.
They aren't KKK. Just like Stalinism isn't Maoism. Words have meanings. You say nazi ideology should be illegal but then you just conflate everything you deem to be 'rightwing' with nazism anyway meaning you just want all 'rightwing' ideology to illegal. That's the slippery slope your ideas.
Neo-nazis disavow nazism? What kind of Kafka trap is that? "I'm not racist". "Well, that's something a racist would say, off to the gulag you go."
Ibime: That coøn is from Nigeria, immersing himself in violent Japanese manga cartoons and the American far right on a daily basis. Talk about avoiding reality
Ibime: "White Supremacists are being unfairly maligned by the FBI"
COON
Boogaloo boys aren't even a white supremacist organization. Proud Boys even had a Cuban American leader (who also turned out to be an FBI informant). Not all violent extremist groups that you don't support are nazis and white supremacists, there are any flavours of stupidity. Get your terminology right.
At least now you agree that FBI is involved in their activities.
Ibime: You and your fellow coon Benalvino need to get your points straight cos Benalvino told us Boogaloo boys are not racist while you are calling them KKK.
BTW, how does this case indicate half of White Supremacists are FBI? FBI only got involved because someone reported the group. If they were not alerted, the group will be 100% non-FBI. As the White Supremacist apologist you are, you want to now use this to carry water and make it representative of White Supremacists all round the country.
By the way, I don't give a fück if 99 FBI officers were used to catch one Nazi. Bïtch ass coon crying for his darling Boogaloo boys that got busted.
Nazism and White Supremacy is not a political ideology as you so casually excuse below. Their ideology literally represents the extermination of me which has been put into practice before over hundreds of years. You can take the most centrist Jew and watch them flare up at the sight of a Nazi. I'm not here to argue nonsense with you. The right of a Nazi to present himself to a Jew is literally a crime in sane countries. My rights do not end where a White Supremacists begins. His mere presentation as a White Supremacist is an expression of a wish to end my life, not a political ideology. In the country I live in, you get jailed for mere membership of such a group.
Take your twisted self back to watching violent manga cartoons you sicko.
benalvino3: it is not enough. The funny thing is, they want to act like only whites can be racist. Even in the cities where only blacks run things, they still blame white men. the zeal to be a victim is just annoying. all I see are weak people, that's why they are emotionally soft and are quick to throw insults.
the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another
funny thing is these guys think living in Diaspora makes them superior
Nigerians will be talking about racism in America when they won't even vote for an Igbo man to be president.
benalvino3: Biden was there the other day calling a black man Negro. None of them who like to shout racism would call him out. instead, they make the claim that fox news edited the video but the video that was shown was not even from fox news.
Maybe it's because I'm from Nigeria where everybody is black I'm not just sensitive to stuff like that. What is wrong with the word 'negro'? It's not a derogatory term we are (or were, I don't know if we still use those classifications) literally the negroid race. We also had the caucasoid, and mongoloid and we still call white people 'caucasian'
Ibime: Stop speaking grammar, you self-hating coon. I have never come here to discuss any "self-defence" nonsense with you or anyone. The below is what you should have told us you came to do - express your white supremacist loving self, you sick and twisted werey. Kill all the other yarns
CIA probably pushed crack to gang leaders in black communities.
You'll only give me pushback for holding one of those beliefs.
The only reason you're perusing my comments looking for a 'gotcha' moment is because it is easier to do that than it is to address your bias and ideological tribalism. How can you say that you didn't come here to discuss self-defence when the case we are discussing is one of self-defence. So what did you come to discuss?
benalvino3: I don't know how to put this in his head o. To him, anyone he hates or is brainwashed to think is a right-wing group, deserves anything evil the left or authorities do to them. FBI can plant a drug to take down a right-wing nut, they can lie and fabricate to take down a Nazi. Life is all about morals and ethics. something they lack.
Definitely in communist playbook. No bad tactics only bad targets. They viciously attack anyone they believe to be their enemy but turn around cry foul when they are paid back in kind. It's one of the reasons why socialism and communism always fail despite having so much potential.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 8:32am On Dec 02, 2021
