₦airaland Forum

hercules07:
@bashr

Pro-Biafra means another country out of Nigeria, nothing shared, pro federalism means each state determines its futures but still owes allegiance to the central government. As per the OP, let me ask why your name is bashr8 when we know you are Igbo, what are you doing with a muslim name?

and what was the content of aburi accord ojukwu and igbos you curse everyday fought for? you can explain it in different ways but it still boils down to people controling their own destiny and developing themselves just as how it was before almaganation , you people cannot continue this talking from both side of the mouth cus that is why igbos never take you people seriously u have simply refused to grow up. militant group terrorize innocent people that are not of their ethnic group or region,isnt that worse than your biafran nightmare? it obvious our reasoning are different the more reason we should not be together.

Negro_Ntns:
I am trying my best to stop commenting on ibo topics but things like this disturb me very much. You cannot flaunt your Biafra ideology inferring that you are already a citizen of that sovereignty and then want to be treated as a full fledged citizen of Nigeria. If you are Biafrans, then you cannot expect the full rights and privileges of being a Nigerian, you will have to accept your second class status. Abandon Biafra to get a full citizen rights in Nigeria. Nigeria is not yet dissolved!

i see how your are being treated as a first class citizen, igbos get admission before your,get jobs before you even in yorubaland ,get contracts before you, have a better living starndard, what exactly did you use to make your silly measurement ,at least they are talking about it where are yoruba leaders? they are still protesting for fuel subsidy handouts ,shameful

DanKan0:
This is the thing that makes me laugh. Like Northen elite can rule Nigeria without consent and cooperation with the South. It doesnt even make sense. All you hear is 'born to rule'.

One day its 'core north' at fault. Ask them who 'core north' is they say Hausa/Fulani, is IBB or Yakubu Gowon Hausa/Fulani? Other times its the whole Northern region but you hear people saying lets form alliance with MiddleBelt take on the 'born to rule' Hausa/fulani or 'core north'. The next day its jus muslims but it wasnt a muslim that defeated Briafa was it?

I dey laugh o pick n choose abi?  

what ever you do whether the core north or whatever affects you more and affects igbos less, it just baffles us how you keep shooting yourself on the foot with all the opportunities you have had especially during military regime , infact the more years you spend the poorer your region becomes, the same thing happened to yorubas they are worse off than when obasanjo started ,it just baffles us nothing else.

hercules07:
We also know that the OP is not a Yoruba man but one of the numerous IDs of our resident eastern brothers, none of the yoruba guys will start a thread like this except in retaliation and I do not see any thread that warrants that, our brothers from the east off the internet have got their thinking caps on and are ready to work with people on ground to better themselves, the ones online are just rabid, pro-baifra people who have lost sight of the realities on ground, dreaming of a biafra without thinking of what it will cost to achieve it.

the website is owned by yorubaman the moderators are probably yoruba ,why they allow such threads (including those against yorubas) to keep flourishing for the world to see baffles me. secondly you can not be against pro-biafrans and at the same time support true fedralism or SNC or total sepration its pure hypocrisy, think before you type.yorubaland is declining since this marriage started it has turned to a cesspit from oyo to ekiti  ,poverty is increasing , wonder what is more important to you a united nigeria or a developed yorubaland.

c.fours:
The east most likely suffers from worse poverty than South Sudan.
competition is very tough in ala-igbo to the extend that thousands risk death to escape it. hmm is "competition" a code word for "poverty"?

and igbos do not have economic might overseas as you say. they are mostly known for spare parts and 419. the ones that are successful are integrated into their host society that they do not even associate strongly with igboland. the rest are rare exceptions.

even if Biafra comes tomorrow. 80% of it's citizens will still be living abroad. this is caused by poverty combined with lack of sense of society. they historically were never organized anyway.

please don't deceive yourself.

cut nigeria into 3 nations east west and south and the east will simply be an almost developed nation with low poverty and lower unemployment compared to west north and indeed so many other african countries, we have gone tru this statistics so many times on nairaland. there are more than 30million igbos living in igboland alone so until you show me a country or proof that up the same number of igbos live outside southeast or southsouth part of igboland you are just talking out of ignorance. apart from lagos show me anyother commercial city more viable than igbo cities of onitsha ,ph and aba and dont forget to delare your ethnic group before you do that and stop hiding under we other nigerians, yes poverty rate in igboland is around 20percent which is high but compare it with yorubaland over 60percent and the north we already know their situation over 70percent so stop yarning rubbish before we start pulling our old threads again. delcare your ethnic group before commenting so we know how to tackle you unless your ashamed of your ethnic group

sweet_gala:
The biggest problem with igbo people for me is how offensive they can get. Always attacking the Yoruba and ijaw/ss ethnic groups, and claiming to be the only good thing to come out of Nigeria, Heralding Ojukwu(a man's who's integrity I respect but whose decision to instigate a war that has divided us as a nation and people so long and till eternity) as the greatest Nigerian for mutiny and treason.

The two great leaders the igbo have given us as a nation ojukwu and Nnamdi Azikiwe both departed the country at trying times when the pot got too hot.
I respect my igbo brothers and friends but would not stand idle as they denounce the work and effort of people from all corners of this great country, from different ethnic groups, who wake up everyday to work and contribute their quota under difficult circumstances.

The last time I checked the igbo have been well and adequately represented in all governments since the amalgamation of this land, they provided our first president, they had military governors during the times of obj,babangida, Abacha, Abubaka some of whom controlled states outside SE. They have their senators in ABJ sharing in the dividends of a corrupt nation, choppin 20million a month, they have ministers who are inefficient and neglectful of their duties , they have governors who are looting the treasury and LG chairmen who are ineffective.

So answer me this what do they have that other parts of the country do not have be it positive or negative. The igbo brethren better come to understand that we are all being duped by leaders who don't see igbo , hausa or Yoruba but willing ignorant fools , ready to help.

To the OP, the igbo community I find are treated like second class citizens because they have assumed that role and worn the cloak that fits, I've noticed a certain inferiority complex among igbo people painfully trying to compete and prove to the world that they are above the rest when a competition has not been declared. Should anything done by a nigerian not be for the benefit of ALL NIGERIANS north south east and west. Abiola and Saro wiwa amongst others did not die for their respective ethnic groups but for NIGERIANS as a collective.

So all the bigots here chanting  igbo are the "best at everything" and the Yoruba that apparently "never venture outside the south west" and the Hausa/fulani that was "born to rule" better come to understand that our cumulative actions have brought us so far our collective votes have put irresponsible presidents, senators, governors , legislators, LG chairmen etc into a position of power to exploit our resources and divert what should be for all of us , our elated leaders from the past have undertaken actions or inactions to undermine our future from Awolowo to tafawa Balewa to ojokwu just to mention a few.

God bless Nigeria

your chatting rubbish , indicate your ethnic group and tell me your achievements if you have any and what you can compare with the igbos, we igbos didnt start this thread but since one of you started it we will finish it. dont hide under region declare your ethnic group before you make anyother stupid comment, igbos are not competing with you people cus you have refused to grow we are trying to compete with people that are growing and so far nollywood is the 2nd or 3rd largest movie industryy in the world after holly wood and maybe bollywood also igbos are so far the only nation in the whole of africa that manufactures automobile tell us your achievements before you type another rubbish here.

There is nothing ancient about having 3 wives, it is their culture, we are not westerners, anyway, would it be nice for the northerners to tell all southerners to go home (afterall some are 40% of Kano's population according to some people) or Lagosians to tell all non yorubas to go home so that their allocations can be enough, one thing that pained me during the census was our eastern brothers going home to be counted in their states and now coming back later after the census knowing (or probably ignorant) of the fact that population also determines how much you get.
Sanusi is probably the only honest man in GEJ's government, he will see out his term and wait patiently to become the emir of Kano and there is nothing anybody can do about that, Nigerians need to be told the truth even if it hurts.


and you think we are happy how the north is collecting bulk share of oil revenue from abia,imo and rivers and at the same time carry out jihad against people from those states and christians in general anytime it suits them yet they are safe in our own region.
just like sanusi your reasoning is messed up the earlier the north for SNC the better for them cus its only when the north discovers there is no more free oil and they have to carter for themselves thats when they will start taking the issue of poverty seriously.

stayreal:
Exactly, we need to know who the first class citizens are. I hope someone can provide the answer.

i tire for them oo ,am really waiting to know who the first class citizens are and how they came about it, most of these people dont live in nigeria or live only in lagos so i wont mock their ignorance yet.

before you compare yourself with igbos better come up with what your ethnic group have achieved more than them. and i mean your ethnic group , i dont want to hear notions like nigerdeltans, middle beltans or northerners, state your ethnic group and tell us what u have achieved in terms of education ,wealth ,technology, industries ,human resourcers etc more than igbo that put you ahead of them then maybe we can begin to take this thread seriously. also tell us how many viiable cities you have that you can compare with that of igbos cities like  onitsha , enugu, oweri,portharcourt, aba and  asaba

i thought it is the other way round, igbos treating other nigerians as second class citizens

meanwhile who come be the firstclass citizens? is it the poverty stricken northerners, the yorubas that thier life and influence starts and ends in southwest or the niger deltans that have ben complaining of igbo domination till the same igbos voted an ijaw as president? i think some of you people have real inferiority complex . what does your ethnic group have or have achieved that you want to compare with igbos achievement, let not even talk about nolly wood.

ocelot2006:
Did someone just call MASSOB a lion whose tail shouldn't be touched? The same lion whose fathers were beaten black and blue, trashed and humiliated by the VERY same Nigerian Army, while the "King Lion" ran away to Abidjan? The very same lion that was trashed by the NPF MOPOL early 2000 while their leader was busy rotting in the custody of first the Police and then the SSS? Abeg let the army drag that tail very very well.

your on cheap crack biafran army killed more nigerian army than nigeria klled biafran army during the war or do you need history lesson. nigerian military lost hundred of thousands soldiers while biafran army never had more than 50 thousand soldier during the war .

i for say , if they were hoodlums terrorizing people then they should be punished , nobody is above the law and that includes massob members.

oduasolja:
oh oh . so we the yoruba are the scum of nigeria , we that built house and housed ur homeless. we that support ur business and educate ur children.

when they say igbos are ingrates , people will say that one is being tribalist.

yes u started the last war , by agreeing to one thing at aburi and doing another.

see these low life yoruba scums, poverty is killing you all over yorubaland yet you dare talk about helping igbo people , not even in your nightmares if not of igbos even lagos would have been like the rest of the caves in yorubaland , ingrates and delusional people , ur dragging poverty and illiteracy with the north slowpoke, liars and backstabbers was it not we igbos that came up with the aburi accord in the first place. i just hope ur enjoying your one nigeria.

KINGwax:
you overestimate yourself. U igbo people. You like war, start it! like i said, when d birds call for rain, they get wet. And when is rains, some places get d shower, others d downpour. So shut your trap. And her, stop followin d girl around, if you're her fan, ask for an autograph!

yoruba parrots are here again with their propaganda, massob only barked and you have already started shouting igbo like war, igbos want to star war.the war started since last year but guess ur waiting for them to bomb those caves in southwest before you realise it. amadioha will strike dead anybody that ever suggest a sounthern nigeria country with yorubas, foolish people ,scum of nigeria

am sure yorubas are waiting to start shpout its igbo people that started the war but they will never take into account how it all started , we are about to witness a repeat of history

Tokotaya:
Talking tough doesnt win wars. And what is the basis of this their talk about retaliation? Some criminals probably not numbering more than 3000 in a nationality of about 50 million are throwing bombs and killing people largely indiscriminately. And because of that, you roll out your war machine, not against that tiny criminal fraction, but against the entire nationality. Does that make sense? It doesnt. If you have any power you can use, track the criminals and leave the innocent husbands, wives, fathers, mothers and children etc minding their own business alone.

and who told you they dont know who they are fighting, you people have already started your propaganda again that igbos are fighting everybody , massob where the first people to warn GEJ that boko harem member are in his govt , they are not dumb like your people ,its either nigeria breaks up peaceful or we burn it down. too much children in this forum tufiakwa

massob should use this opportunity and push for a soveriegn national conference ,its obvious somepeople have been trying to drag us into the fracas and we know what happen when we yield to it, uwazurike is a very hot tempered man and will carry out his threat but i dont think its time yet. meanwile these dirty yoruba cowards can keep running their mouth while staying by the sideline waiting for who to backstab. two faced cowards.

Obiagu1:
@ ezeagu

You're idea is very similar to the country I have in my mind.

In brief.

A nation called Biafra that consist of SE states and willing SS states (open to Edo groups)
Will have 5 provinces: Igbo, Cross River, Ogoni, Ijaw (if they join), and Edo (open).
Provinces will have as many divisions as they chose to.
Resource control: 15% federal, 40% Province, and 45% divisions/cities.
Citizenship: No indigeneship! Everyone is a Biafran and will have 100% right in wherever he chose to live.
Police: No Provincial police! Federal will have few Federal police while divisions/cities will have the core policing duty.
Army: 100% federal

Politics:
There will be a President and a Vice President; and a Supreme Court (Federal)
No federal legislature!
Provinces will have the legislative duty and laws will vary from province to province to suit their culture and need.
If the federal wants a law harmonised across the country, such will be communicated to all the provincial legislative houses to deliberate on.


No rotational Presidency 
No federal character 

please remove edo people from that list ,the least group we have the better infact i prefer an only igbo country let anybody interested join , stop making these people feel important we need nothing from them

before reading it i already knew its yoruba

PROUD-IGBO:
I wouldn't go as far as to call it "madness", esp' if it's a private initiative. The Governor must have done his homework, and maybe he sees tourism as one of Imo States strengths, hence the support he's giving it in the state.

For competing to build the biggest and best industries: i would want to see that happen as well, but feel that is more Anambra and Abias' forte. Just hope the Governors there would be a bit more proactive (esp' Abia State).

anyway i cant really say maybe they are building imo more into a toruism based economy but i just feel hotels are outnumbering other industries in the south east and will prefer to see a balanced economy .

when are they going to start competing for the who built the best industries in owerri? enough of this hotel madness .

Negro_Ntns:
you are untrustworthy. . . the moment we agree to any terms then you misinterprete it as invitation to settle our land. No we dont need you for anything, we are good without you. Trust me!!

Amyway, countdown. . . 24hrs gone since ultimatum was issued. . . 24 more to go.

then shut the f up and stop sabotaging any thread that has to do with biafra or eastern nigeria.

Negro_Ntns:
you cant get sympathisers on your side because your overjoy at the deployment of boots and guns in Lagos has produced coldness where otherwise should have been comforting shoulders.  Where is Beaf now to talk about SS/SE coalition and how West is the enemy?   Is West deploying army to harrass and arrest MASSOB or is this a SS propaganda to elevate its own MEND to the forefront of militancy in East by intimidating and silencing rival group?   You all let that madcow deceive you into following his downcreek dogma of a common enemy in West.

we would have preferred to keep quiet and watch nigeria break up by itself and even let the mend take the upper hand as you say, but i guess we have been dragged into it, we all know what happens when we get dragged into such either way nigeria is still going to break up so start getting ready for that.
west are not they enemy they are just back stabbers talking from both side of the mouth , you claim to be the ones pushing for true federalism and SNC but you get high blood pressure anytime disinteration is mentioned by the igbos or if biafra is mentioned, make up your mind you backstabbers and stop talking from both side of your mouth.

chmod777:
[size=18pt]What tribe does an Asaba man (the home of late Nzeogwu and al so home of the present chairman of Ohaneze), Iselukwu, Onitcha-Ugbo and all their neighbors belong ?, What tribe does Ndoni, Eche, Ikwere all in River state belong, what tribe does Ilorin and all her neighbors in Kwara belong. I have never heard anyone call Tunde Bakare who is from Kwara, a north central man. Why ?
Then I ask how will the prospective nations of Nigeria be >>[/size]

notice how everyone ignored you cause we cannot keep teaching nigeria 101 to you people everyday, those in the western part can speak for people in illorin but all the other you mentions are igbo groups ,you can argue about only the ikwerres but honestly we dont give a Bleep they can either join their brothers, form their own country or join ijaws its non of our buisness.

The Seriki Hausawa of Lagos State, Alhaji Aminu Idris Yaro has expressed sadness over the nonchalant attitudes of Nigerians towards the activities of the dreaded sect, Boko Haram leading to the death of many people and destruction of property worth billions of naira.

The Seriki, who doubles as the Chairman of the Arewa Traditional Council in the state wondered why people refused to hit the street the way they did against fuel subsidy recently.

According to him, it was a painful realization that people put their comfort far above the collective comfort of the Nigerian masses as was demonstrated recently by the protesters against the removal of fuel subsidy by the Federal Government.
“In Nigeria when subsidy was removed on petroleum, people protested and shut down every activity and some patriots even died during the protests.

But when hundreds of people were killed by sects using bombs, nobody stages protest or condemned it because it didn't happen in their vicinity, none of their relatives are affected or because they are afraid to speak and get bombed too,” the monarch queried.
He asked rhetorically further: “Where is Occupy Nigeria? Where is El-Rufai? Where is Pastor Tunde Bakare? Where are the Celebrities, artistes and musicians?

Where are the Opposition Parties? Where are Nigerians? Were they all in the blast that rocked Kano city? Why is everyone keeping mute now? Or is Kano State not part of Nigeria? Is this not a more serious issue for all Nigerians to wear black rags and truly ‘occupy Nigeria’ with peaceful protest against mass killings of innocent ones?

Do we have energy and strength only on subsidy removal issues? Everyone seems to be afraid now. What a big shame?”

While expressing grief, Yaro could not understand why, “when hundreds of people were killed senselessly in the past few months, all toothless bulldogs can't even bark any more let alone bite because money is not involved for them to fight for,” warning Nigerians to be guided not to be used by self seeking opposition, but join hands together to build a great and united Nigeria.


http://www.naijapundit.com/news/kano-blasts-northern-leader-decries-nonchalant-attitudes-of-nigerians

Funny country, funny people

Good help those almajiros

Buahahaha if there's any group that take care of children in Nigeria it is the igbos, they don't allow their children to go out begging or turn to agberos and alayes like Yoruba children, its is a known fact that igbo men willing to suffer, trek and work from morning till night just to make sure his wife and kids get the best things life has to offer, most igbos men don't even have cars but buy nice cars for their wife cus they can't stand their wife trekking or their kids walking to school under the sun.

Guy u let those yarimbas get to you NA WA oo