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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:32pm On Jan 07
bayelsaowei:
Basilico..you don get US VISA?
I'm comfortable.Dont need no visa.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:21pm On Jan 07
IbeOkehie:
Venezuelans today....and Nigerians for that matter...don't generally enjoy excellent health care, high paying jobs, best affordable housing and modern infrastructures. While INDEPENDENCE for a nation is a good thing in principle, it's reasonable to ask about the QUALITY OF LIFE results for the population.

It would be better for the USA or a credible group of Anglo-Saxons to colonize Nigeria and impose FREE MARKET rules that would generate high living standards for the Nigerian people over the long term, and of course the COLONISTS would become EXTREMELY wealthy too. That's exactly what has happened in South Africa. White South Africans have the HIGHEST LIVING STANDARDS of any White people in the world, while Black South Africans have the 2nd highest living standards among national groups of Negroes in the world. There's strong likelihood that even during Apartheid, Black South Africans had higher living standards than Nigerians.

That's the reason Black South Africans don't have a high rate of migration to Western Europe or North America. They have their own White Slaves providing the ideological and practical scaffolding upon which the entire population can work hard and build a highly developed nation.

Yes, independence and self determination is good as a distinct state of existence. When ANY consideration of economic well being is introduced to a discussion of nationhood, then there's clearly some trade offs and balancing to be made to achieve superlative development. That's why 20% of the population of Venezuela has FLED THE COUNTRY since 2014 when Socialism was being imposed on the country. That's 8 million people that have CHOSEN higher living standards over social justice and national self determination.

That's why so many people on this discussion thread live in Western Europe & North America, we PREFER White domination over Black rule. Yeah it sounds really bad, immoral and self hating, but it's true no matter how stridently anyone denies it. Black Africans are even now CELEBRATING the growing availability of CHINESE kindness as an alternative to Euro-Whites perfidy. shocked Zimbabwe chose dignity, independence and self determination and kicked out Whites and brought in the Chinese. It's over 20 years now, almost a generation. Hopefully it's worked out well for them.

Yes, the USA has done the right thing here, including buying the crude oil that was going to China & Cuba, I'd rather we take it...but buying it is OK too. Hopefully THE PEOPLE of Venezuela will choose better governments for themselves going forward and yes that may mean fighting the USA for the right to do so, but in my view they would do better as a colony of the USA. Same as Nigeria would do better under UK rule, but who wants to be called a RACIST?

Oh, and just for kicks, this is an interesting read -

https://www.forbes.com/sites/korihale/2022/10/25/millionaire-status-is-on-the-rise-with-52-million-people-joining-the-club/




God Bless America, God Save the King!!!!

Good Luck to Nigerians.
I like your responses.Ill add more meat to the bones later
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:20pm On Jan 07
bayelsaowei:
You vote as a non citizen you get prosecuted, you even get deported..its already a crime..

What else do you want?

Are you ok?

Are you smoking something?
Yes I'm not smoking anything.

Nick Shirley & David just confirmed that 1 Somali collects mail-in ballots for entire COMPLEXES — up to 9 BALLOTS per apartment home & send them in for Democrats

“They all vote together and there's ballot harvesting”

“You're talking probably 100,000 or more people & they're ALL living rent free
They're driving a vehicle that YOU PAID FOR”

“They're eating food that you paid for
Everything they do is something
that you paid for!” 😳

Absolutely infuriating
Minnesota is like a 3rd world nation 😳🤡🌎😢
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:52am On Jan 07
bayelsaowei:
Non citizens cannot vote in federal and state elections.. it is a crime constitutionally..

What are you blabbing about?

Are you ok?
Saying you can't vote doesn't mean invalid people vote.
Whether it's one person illegally voting ,a law should be in place to prevent that.
What's so hard to understand about that.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:59am On Jan 07
bayelsaowei:
Non citizens cant vote..its constitutional..
Why not codify it into law. There is a bill passed by Congress.
Explain this.
SAVE Act.
U.S. House of Representatives: The bill passed the House in a 220-208 vote on April 10, 2025. All 208 Nay votes were democrats.
U.S. Senate: The bill (S. 128 in the Senate) has not been passed and faces significant opposition from Senate Democrats, who have the votes to block it using the filibuster. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer stated in April 2025, "I will not let this noxious bill, the 'SAVE Act,' become law. Every single Senate Democrat, every single one of us is united against it. They need 60 votes. The 'SAVE Act' is dead on arrival".


Don't beat around the bush.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:50am On Jan 07
bayelsaowei:
Make I laugh oo.. grin grin

Basilico, you speak like a child that was born yesterday..

I'd leave you in your ignorance.
He takes the oil and uses it to find any reconstruction. He is already taking the oil.
Rocket science?
What does it take for you to be a lil bit reasonable.Whether it's imperialism he won't be using taxpayers money to prop up the Venezuela government
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:47am On Jan 07
bayelsaowei:
Money to help Venezuelan people you say?

Like what? They'll have excellent health care, high paying jobs, best affordable housing and modern infrastructures because Trump has usurped their leadership?

Like are you ok?
Listen to the Venezuelans themselves .

THIS🔥 Venezuelan SCHOOLS leftists’ fake crying about “Venezuelan oil”

A Venezuelan woman just said what a lot of people are too polite to say — and she didn’t sugarcoat it.

After reading a message from liberals hand-wringing about oil —
“I don’t even know what this means for Venezuela… I’m scared they’re going to steal the oil and make it worse” —
she snapped back with raw honesty.

“Shut the f* up.** You sound ignorant. Ignorant.”

Woman: "Shut the f**k up. You guys sound so ignorant. Ignorant! All you guys that claim to be worried about the oil, stop the hypocrisy. Stop it right now. Nobody gives a Bleep about the oil. You guys didn’t give a Bleep about the oil that’s been getting stolen not for Venezuela or the people but for Cuba, for Russia, for China, for Iran. Maduro left his own people in poverty and exile for fucking years. It’s safe to say that Venezuelans would have traded the oil for the freedom that we received from the liberation that took place today years ago. As if the oil was doing anything for the Venezuelan people in the first place. People of Venezuela are grateful for what Trump did, and if the price was oil, then we would have paid it a long time ago."


Smug keyboard warriors like you know better than the victims
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:30am On Jan 07
bayelsaowei:
This Satan first born dey fear impeachment.

grin grin

He better rig the mid terms..
Yea he should demand every voter should be a legal citizen,the democrats don't want that.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:06am On Jan 07
bayelsaowei:
Money to help Venezuelan people you say?

Like what? They'll have excellent health care, high paying jobs, best affordable housing and modern infrastructures because Trump has usurped their leadership?

Like are you ok?
If you look at what happened to Iraq and Afghanistan,there was a trillion dollars poured into the rebuilding plus winning the hearts and minds of the belligerents.The US taxpayers paid for the war effort.
This time whatever will be spent rebuilding or maintaining security will come from their own oil.

That's not rocket science. Congress will not be called upon to appropriate money for Venezuela.
If they want this Hugo Chavez mausoleum rehabilitated they will use their own money

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:40am On Jan 07
Much as they may hate Trump ,he is a genius. Venezuela to turn over $2B to America of oil .Money that will be used to help Venezuela people.
America gets cheap oil and the proceeds go to Venezuela.
"We take the oil" Trump has always blasted Bush and Obama for not taking the oil in Syria and Iraq.

China , Russia,Cuba and Iran are in Venezuela because of the oil too.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:35pm On Jan 06
basilico:
Maduro elite bodyguard was made up of Cubans.
He had received defence equipment from Russia and China. All destroyed. Including Hugo Chavez mausoleum.
They used a cyber attack to turn off the lights in Caracas.
Unreported widely is that a close Maduro family member was helping CIA track him 24/7 .
He couldn't even use his phone freely,kept changing lines and phones. What kind of life is that ,when you could simply do the right thing and live normally without any fear.
LOL Hugo Chavez mausoleum was bombed.
Probably had an S-300 PMPU air defence hidden inside.
Before and after.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:28pm On Jan 06
budaatum:
Dump is shaking my faith in the powers of the words "GOVERNMENT SHALL NOT", I daresay.



An old English friend used to say China will exploit us more than Britain did.

My response was, the fact Britain has exploited Nigeria has educated and made us more aware and somewhat vaccinated ue against colonial exploitation to some extent, and he should credit us with brains to know that only ourselves can save ourselves.

I know I exaggerate a bit, since many still seek their own salvation from heaven, but we most definitely on the whole do not think "China will save Africa"!
The Chinese primary interest is raw materials for their industries.
They will close an eye to a dictator murdering his people as long as they get the coveted raw materials.

The West also needs the materials but they also demand good governance. They have laws forcing their overseas companies from engaging in bribing govts ,for exploitative labor like using children, environmental damages during extraction etc.
The Chinese have none of that.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:14am On Jan 06
Rubio once said the head of the snake in Venezuela is in Havana.
Cuba has been getting 50000 bpd of refined oil as a gift from Venezuela.It sells off the excess .
Cuba has leased 15000 of theirs to work in Venezuela.

Now the 50,000 bpd is gone. Russia won't help,their tankers won't reach Havana
The Cuba regime will run out of strategic fuel reserves within a month.
As Trump said Cuba falls on its own if Venezuela goes down.

https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2026/01/05/how-snatching-maduro-screws-up-everyone-elses-plans-lemme-count-the-ways-n3810496
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:46am On Jan 06
A40:
Instead of harrassin Trump you guys should be contributing his $25,000,000 bounty fee for capturing the Maduro that Biden-Kamala had on the Wanted list




Same Schumer slandering Trump for doing nothing about Maduro

If Dems didn't have double standards they would have no standards at all. Why is Maduro suddenly Mandela and why are people crying for Venezuela more than Venezuelans. TDS is no joke man
They were using Maduro to hit out at Trump because they didn't expect him to do anything about it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:50pm On Jan 05
benalvino3:
We know from all over the west there are people paid millions to organize protests.
Years ago being Communist to was for the heretics. Now they are very loudly talking down Capitalism and expressing their desire to dismantle America.Thanks to the First Amendment.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:42pm On Jan 05
raumdeuter:
Minnesota has always been Blue and Mike Lindell was never going to win or any Republican. Who was the last Republican to win a statewide election in Minnesota?
Probably 20yrs ago
Wherever democrats win,I'm always suspecting foul play. Who was the Minnesota genius who came up on with this law
The rule that a registered Minnesota voter can vouch for up to eight other voters as proof of residence on Election Day is a long-standing provision of Minnesota law that has been in effect for over 50 years.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:36pm On Jan 05
raumdeuter:
Who will claim the bounty
+ benalvino3.

The protests that erupted in support of Maduro were not spontaneous. Organized and funded by Marxist non profits like Code Pink.

https://x.com/AsraNomani/status/2007708751768265022

Impressive investigation of the communist socialist networks that also helped Mamdani win.

The socialists have well entrenched saboteurs. They work hand in hand with the people who wrote this
"a kind of grand plan in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:21pm On Jan 05
Tim Walz drops out the Governor race in 2026.
Thanks to Nick Shirley video.

https://www.kttc.com/2026/01/05/breaking-governor-tim-walz-announces-he-will-not-run-re-election/
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:18pm On Jan 05
raumdeuter:
Give them the option of a US visa with citizenship and give them China visa with citizenship

Offer it to 100 Nigerians and check the ratio that will pick one over the other
100% will choose America. Then a few will cry about being racially discriminated
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
JD Vance home attacked windows shattered.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Mock House, CIA Source And Special Forces: The US Operation To Capture Maduro by basilico: 12:26pm On Jan 05
They said Pete Hegseth was unqualified to run the War Department.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
basilico:
Trump retweets a video where Minnesota killer claimed to have been sent by Tim Walz.
I think Trump has better intelligence access than budaatum.
Trump retweets another . Dominion Rigging machines are configured to switch votes.Smartmatic founded by 3 Venezuelans helped Chavez and Maduro win elections. Smartmatic owned Dominion through convoluted offshore shell companies.
Democrats are scared that Maduro will expose the role of Smartmatic and Dominion in 2020.
Similar to the wild baseless claims made against Trump by many of you here,this one is from me. Cuban president flew to Caracas in 2020 and watched live as the 2020 election was stolen ,the machines flipping Trump votes to Biden . The Belgrade Dominion office which is their software development centre was remotely connected to these rigging machines.Kraken.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:41am On Jan 05
This must be a joke. Funding to Minnesota day care centres was paused until an inspection.
So a private day care is looking to hire 20 children for 3 days when the inspectors come around . On craigslist.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:49am On Jan 05
Senator Murphy “The invasion of Venezuela has nothing to do with American security. Venezuela is not a security threat to the U.S.. This is about making Trump’s oil industry and Wall Street friends rich. Trump’s foreign policy – the Middle East, Russia, Venezuela – is fundamentally corrupt.”

Dana Bash of CNN made a huge blunder when questioning Senator Murphy. She reminded him of an op-ed he had written in 2019
Dana Bash:
In 2019, you wrote an op-ed, and you called for Maduro to be gone. You said:

“Let’s get one thing straight: there should no longer be any debate about Maduro’s lack of democratic legitimacy. The Trump administration is right to put restoring Venezuelan democracy at the center of our approach to this crisis. A return to a stable democracy is in the interest of the Venezuelan people, the United States, and the hemisphere.”


She appears to have forgotten that CNN is a propaganda network so Murphy explained

Chris Murphy:
Well, the rest of that article was a criticism of President Trump’s early moves to saber-rattle around regime change.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:33am On Jan 05
Mamdani pledge to run New York progressively like Maduro has appointed key ideologicals.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:28am On Jan 05
bayelsaowei:
Is this propaganda?

Death toll 80 persons...
Who can confirm these numbers??

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/04/world/trump-us-venezuela-maduro
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/5/cuba-says-32-cubans-killed-during-us-raids-on-venezuela

Cuba says 32 Cuban fighters killed in US raids on Venezuela
Havana declares two days of mourning for the Cubans killed in US operation to abduct Nicolas Maduro
.

Your hero Maduro was trained by Cuba. He was the lifeline of Cuba in terms of oil.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:08pm On Jan 04
Trump retweets a video where Minnesota killer claimed to have been sent by Tim Walz.
I think Trump has better intelligence access than budaatum.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
nateevs:
Sharap! The West have done infinitely more to underdevelop African industrialisation than any labeling you care mammary now.

You will wear garment for the British and Americans who come to establish upstream resource companies, take the resources outside of country and return low-quality refined products to unsuspecting Nigerians.

BP, Mobil, Chevron all have capacity to build Oil refineries inside of Nigeria for eons but it's never been western policy to contribute towards industrial development in Nigeria and Africa as a whole. They instead prefer to refine oil in the West, and return high sulphur rate PMS at premium prices. Thank God for Dangote.

It's the same with Swizz and Belgian companies that impoverish Cocao farmers, without creating any plans inside of Africa.

But you have a problem with the Chinese who actually build infrastructure in Africa. Go and burn down the entire Blue Line in Lagos.
If you think Chinese are developing Africa to transfer technology,I have a bridge to sell you
China is hungry for raw material's,They enrolled countries in their BRI to develop infrastructure through which raw material's end up in China.
They loan money then have their company build it .They also bring in their own workers to do the important stuff
Some countries have failed to repay the loans in time. Sri Lanka lost it's main port, Tajikistan ceeded 1000 sq km of land , China took 90% control of Laos grid.
Nations need to be careful with these developments.
These projects that China are building are to improve access to it's raw materials. Roads,railways ,ports, airports etc.
Tanzania was to get a port but on condition no other port along it's coast would be developed. This Tanzania port would be linked via a new railway to DRC where Chinese companies are mining large scale. Massive project
Zambia was at risk of losing its airport too.

Anyway I see China as a worse colonizer than the West. It's African leaders who sell out. It's African leaders to blame for underdevelopment largely not the west. They concieve grandiose projects and look for funding. The same playbook , but at least the Chinese don't give Africans money.They build,you pay later.
The west used to send money to Africa thinking they are trustworthy to spend the money honestly.

The west does try to improve governance in Africa unlike the Chinese.
As.regards BP , Chevron and refineries,the other day I mentioned that countries should nationalize oil them hire those hard nosed Western retired Oil execs with clear performance targets. A lot would jump into it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
bayelsaowei:
What has been the success rate in terms of outcomes for regime changes facilitated by the US in the Americas and the carribean?

You are freaking so sure of the outcome for Venezuela. Thats your research work.

See below already happening.. from history what are the odds for Venezuela attaining eldorado in leadership and structure in the coming years?

And for your information you don't believe in one God (you believe in 3 Gods all summed up in one or abi One God divided into three persons grin grin).
Marco Rubio explains why Venezuela opposition may not have the capacity to take over right away.

Delcy Rodríguez and the core of the regime’s leadership are negotiating with the United States as we speak. This is not a sudden pivot. It is the result of a conclusion reached in Washington over months: the U.S. does not believe that María Corina Machado and the opposition have the operational capacity to seize power in Venezuela because they do not control, or meaningfully fracture, the military. If they did, power would have shifted immediately after the 2024 presidential election. It did not.


For a long period, U.S. officials, including Marco Rubio, were in constant communication with Machado and her team. They were asked repeatedly for proof of a concrete plan, not just to win power symbolically, but to retain it in practice: chain of command, military alignment, institutional control, day-after governance. The answers were consistently evasive, justified by security concerns, but never substantiated. At that point, from the U.S. government’s perspective, the opposition ceased to look like a viable transition mechanism and began to look like a political wager with no enforcement arm.

The plan now on the table is for Delcy Rodríguez to stabilize the country with U.S. backing and then call for general elections. This is not framed as an endorsement of the regime, but as a containment and transition strategy. Washington is explicit about one thing: this is not a partnership of equals. The United States is running the process, the lines are being managed through Rubio, and the leverage is entirely asymmetric. Delcy is the instrument, not the center of gravity.

U.S. officials also assess that Delcy’s harsh public rhetoric today was aimed inward, at the chavista base, not outward. That messaging is understood as domestic signaling. Nevertheless, as of now, negotiations with the United States are ongoing as we speak


This image below that you posted . Literally reading it suggests a different meaning.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:46pm On Jan 04
Kamala Harris statement about the attack.
Kamala Harris
@KamalaHarris
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14h
Donald Trump’s actions in Venezuela do not make America safer, stronger, or more affordable.

That Maduro is a brutal, illegitimate dictator does not change the fact that this action was both unlawful and unwise. We’ve seen this movie before. Wars for regime change or oil that are sold as strength but turn into chaos, and American families pay the price.

The American people do not want this, and they are tired of being lied to.

This is not about drugs or democracy. It is about oil and Donald Trump’s desire to play the regional strongman. If he cared about either, he wouldn’t pardon a convicted drug trafficker or sideline Venezuela’s legitimate opposition while pursuing deals with Maduro’s cronies.

The President is putting troops at risk, spending billions, destabilizing a region, and offering no legal authority, no exit plan, and no benefit at home.

America needs leadership whose priorities are lowering costs for working families, enforcing the rule of law, strengthening alliances, and — most importantly — putting the American people first.


Hypocrite.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:16pm On Jan 04
CNN panel wanted Trump to remove Maduro back then.


MAZE
@mazemoore
During Trump's first term Maduro stayed in power after an illegitimate election.

The MSM/Democrats repeatedly claimed that Maduro remaining in power was proof that Trump was "Putin's puppet."

Everyone in this video will now be condemning Trump. It's so pathetic.





Democrats are just hypocrites.

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