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CreativeOrbit:
What is wrong with you?

I’m not interested in digging up decade-old threads just because you refuse to engage in a real conversation now.

If you can’t articulate a coherent point today, don’t waste my time with your evasive nonsense.

Either say something relevant or stop talking.

The most relevant right now is the middle east war
I can mention in passing that Iran is fighting a religious war, I have hadith and verses to prove that but not on this thread

Rilwayne001:
Civilian was killed in Iran this morning.

What are you even saying?

Iran attack is savage. They are targeting the whole of Israel.
IDF had specific targets. Israel don't forget has ballistic missiles too but they are risking pilots to take out targets.
29% if Israel is Arab and Muslins , their missiles don't know that, So the people they are fighting for might get killed in the process

Just like I thought. Iran will fire a barrage of missiles hoping it kills one Israel, they will have won. Their aim is any one. Any casualty.
IDF attacked specific apartments of multi storey buildings . No civilian in Iram is scared of being killed by IDF bombs unless they are in a military sensitive area. To the contrary Iran will say they aimed at military targets , they will celebrate any death as. Victory.

CreativeOrbit:
Oh, you “dare” me?
You started this mess by quoting Islamic hadiths and pretending you could challenge Muslim theology. But now you’re tucking your tail and saying, “Start a thread elsewhere”—as if you’re some referee instead of the instigator.

Let’s cut the nonsense.

> If you had conviction, you’d start the thread yourself.
But like every insecure apologist hiding behind empire and scripture he barely understands, you expect someone else to carry your theological burden for you.

You don’t issue dares from the sidelines. You step into the arena—or stay silent.

You brought religion into this thread. You threw the first theological stone. Now that it’s crumbling in your hand, you're pretending you want “organized debate.” No. What you want is a controlled environment to escape exposure.

Well, here’s your reality check:

Start the thread yourself.
Put your Bible on the table. Quote your verses. Make your accusations. Bring your doctrine.
But be ready, because I won't just respond—I’ll demolish every pillar of your fragile theology with Qur’an, reason, and history.

And if you’re too scared to take the first step, just admit it.
Don’t dress your cowardice up as some noble challenge.

> So either post the thread like a man—or stop pretending you're ready for a theological war you're clearly unarmed for.

Your move.

I don't wish to bring a discussion on religion .
I have some topics I had started 10 years ago. Reply to any .

Meanwhile on CNN

_ The attack will sideline the plight of Gaza
_ Iranians told CNN they are scared they never expected strikes in civilian areas. Though one guard wondered if the regime top generals were eliminated, how safe are Iranians.

I've seen Richard Dalton, UK former Jerusalem consul general. He says Israel had no right because Iran does not pose an immediate threat neither do they have the means right now.


_

feedthenation:
---Felon 47 is a 'lame -duck' president---Netanyahu doesn't listen to him---just like Putin had repeatedly called his bluff---

Read Trump’s Truth Social post in full:

“I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal. I told them, in the strongest of words, to “just do it,” but no matter how hard they tried, no matter how close they got, they just couldn’t get it done. I told them it would be much worse than anything they know, anticipated, or were told, that the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the World, BY FAR, and that Israel has a lot of it, with much more to come - And they know how to use it. Certain Iranian hardliner’s spoke bravely, but they didn’t know what was about to happen. They are all DEAD now, and it will only get worse! There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter, with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal, come to an end. Iran must make a deal, before there is nothing left, and save what was once known as the Iranian Empire. No more death, no more destruction, JUST DO IT, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. God Bless You All!

He knew it. He knows their air defences are porous. There are more deadly attacks planned by IDF,Trump is warning Iran. Everyone knows IDF jets will fly in at will if they have to

CreativeOrbit:
So now you've abandoned argument and retreated into vague metaphors and ominous one-liners—as if theatrical language will distract from the blood on the hands of the regime you’re cheerleading.

Let me respond to your literary performance with blunt moral reality:

1. "The Pandora’s Box has been opened."
You're right. And inside that box was 75 years of colonial violence, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid. It was opened in 1948, not 2023. Everything since has been a consequence of your side’s crimes—not ours.

2. "The Rubicon has been crossed."
Indeed, it has. When the so-called “only democracy in the Middle East” decided to starve civilians, bomb hospitals, use white phosphorus on children, and flatten entire neighborhoods—all on camera—it crossed not just the Rubicon, but every red line of morality, law, and human decency.

3. "The gates of hell have been flung wide open."
You’re mistaken if you think hell opened in October 2023. It opened when Zionist militias massacred villages like Deir Yassin, raped Palestinian women, and burned olive groves. The hell you're seeing now is the result of decades of unchecked injustice finally erupting.

You want to talk about “dueling it out”?

Good. Let’s duel in truth, in history, and in unflinching moral clarity—not poetic soundbites hiding cowardice.

Because while you spout vague war metaphors, let me remind you of real numbers:

Over 15,000 children dead.

More than 40,000 Palestinians maimed.

2 million people starving in a besieged open-air prison.

Whole families erased from civil registries.

Entire neighborhoods turned to ash.

And still, your side talks about “defense.”

What kind of theology defends the starvation of toddlers? What kind of Christ would bless missiles raining down on hospitals? What kind of moral system do you represent—where the occupier is a victim and the occupied are terrorists for refusing to die quietly?

“Let’s see what a country with useless air defenses does next,” you say?

Let’s rephrase that:

> Let’s see what a nuclear-armed apartheid regime—funded by billions in American aid, backed by the most powerful empire on earth—does next, now that it has failed to crush the will of a besieged, barefoot population armed with homemade rockets and unshakable faith.

That’s not just military failure. That’s moral humiliation.

You quote drama. I’ll quote history, religion, and fact. You worship power. We believe in justice. You celebrate genocide. We stand for resistance.

So go ahead—mention me in your “religion section.” I will bring revelation, resistance, and reckoning.

Because unlike your shaky theology, ours doesn't bend to empires.
It stands with the oppressed—always.
And in the end, the side of justice always prevails.

Start a thread at the religion section , let's leave this one alone with matters about religion. I dare you.

LordAdam16:
Surely, now Ayatollah Khamenei will issue a fatwa permitting the development of a nuclear weapon.
Or assemble a nuclear weapon and run a test.

Add yesternight to the always-expanding list of demonstrations of the mullahs' ineptitude.

Get a nuclear weapon. Declare war.
That should be easy.
But let's see if the clowns can manage that.

-Lord

Fatwa will be announced when leading Friday prayers "Death to Big Satan and Death to little Satan" chants .

obedience4:
That has to be dumb*et analysis I have read in a while.

Its an absurd answer to a very ridiculous post about Iran turning off it's advanced radar. Garbage in garbage out .

V8

CreativeOrbit:
Your attempt to shift the conversation from modern Israeli war crimes to cherry-picked eschatological hadiths reveals both desperation and ignorance. Let me respond to your deflection with the clarity and harshness it deserves.

1. Quoting Hadiths to Justify Zionist Colonialism? Pathetic.

You cite eschatological hadiths—about end-times scenarios—not normative Islamic commands for today. These hadiths are prophecies, not policies. They describe what will happen, not what Muslims are commanded to do now. There is a fundamental difference between descriptive prophecy and prescriptive ethics.

> Try again when you understand basic hermeneutics.

Meanwhile, what is prescriptive in Islam is the prohibition of oppression, the defense of the oppressed, and the right to resist tyranny. And if you’re seriously quoting hadith while supporting a regime that bombs hospitals and starves children, then congratulations—you’ve weaponized Islamic scripture to sanitize genocide.

2. “Jews and Arabs coexisted peacefully before 1948”?

You're right—and that coexistence ended the moment Zionist militias began ethnically cleansing Palestine in 1947–48. It was Zionism, not Islam, that tore apart peaceful Jewish-Arab relations. The Nakba didn’t happen because of religion. It happened because armed settlers, backed by imperial powers, began forcibly displacing an indigenous population for the sake of creating an ethno-state.

> Nearly 800,000 Palestinians were expelled. Over 500 villages were destroyed. And you dare talk about “coexistence”?

3. Zionist Regime Expelled Jews from Gaza in 2005? Yes — Because It’s a Racist State.

The “ethnic Palestinian Jews” you claim were “forced out” of Gaza in 2005 were not natives. They were illegal settlers living on stolen land under military protection while Palestinians were caged in ghettos.

And who forced them out? The Israeli government—not Palestinians. Why? Because Israel wanted to consolidate control of the West Bank and maintain the siege on Gaza from the outside while pretending to "disengage."

> That wasn’t coexistence ending—it was Zionist strategy evolving.

If Israel expelled its own settlers, that’s not evidence of peace-loving Zionism—it’s evidence of manipulative statecraft using people as pawns in a larger colonial project.

4. Citing Hadith While Supporting an Apartheid State? Laughable.

If you're going to quote Islamic texts, then be consistent. Here’s a few principles you conveniently ignore:

“Do not kill women or children or the elderly or sick.”

“Do not destroy trees or crops or buildings.”

“Do not betray, mutilate, or act unjustly.”

These are prophetic commands to Muslims even in war. Yet Israel bombs entire families, flattens hospitals, blocks food and water, and then whines about resistance.

> Where’s your outrage for the babies burned alive in incubators because Israel cut electricity?

> Where’s your morality when white phosphorus rains down on UN shelters?

Your silence on those crimes makes your hadith quotes nothing but hollow hypocrisy.

5. Don’t Pretend You Care About Jews — You’re Just Using Them.

Let’s be clear: your concern isn’t for Jews. It’s for deflecting criticism from a colonial state that uses Jewish identity as a human shield. Israel doesn’t represent world Jewry—it represents a political ideology called Zionism. And many Jews—Orthodox, secular, even Holocaust survivors—oppose it.

You bring up hadiths as if Islam mandates genocide. Meanwhile, Israel is actually carrying out real-world genocide right now—live on camera, with American weapons, and your full-throated support.

6. Final Reality Check:

You think quoting hadiths will morally disarm Muslims?

You think we will ignore:

The starvation of 2 million people?

The slaughter of over 15,000 children in Gaza?

The theft of land, the bulldozing of homes, the arrests of teenagers, the shooting of journalists and medics?

> Islam does not teach pacifism in the face of oppression.
It teaches resistance, dignity, and justice.
And Palestine is the test of our moral clarity.

So no—we will not be distracted by your weak theological smokescreens.

Until Zionism ends, occupation ends, and the siege ends,

Resistance is not terrorism—it is the language of the besieged.

And quoting hadiths won’t save a regime whose hands drip with innocent blood.

Go duel it out at the religion section mention me so that I can join in.
The following phrases apply to the IDF attack.
The Pandora's box has been opened.
The banality of the Ayatollahs is now exposed.
The Rubicon has been crossed.
IDF stirred the hornets nest.
The gates of hell have been flung wide open.
A storm has been unleashed.
The powder keg has been ignited and the Veil of restraint has been torn.

Let's see what a country with useless Anti Aircraft Defence system will do next .

Rilwayne001:
It’s a Shia vs Sunni thing.

Sunni hates Shia more than they hate the Jews.

Shia vs sunni . Sunni are 85% . Most Muslims are good people happy to just live, raise the next generation of jihadists and let others fight for the cause of Islam. The terrorist are the wahhabi and salafist extreme brainwashed Muslims.

WritterNg:
This is why I don't respect Muslims. They never support and defend each other.

Even here a Muslim, Usmanopogo is backing a barbaric entity against his fellow brothers.

Whom should he support when Houthi fire drones at Saudi oil facilities? Sunni or Shia?

Gbadebo19:
This is pin point pizza delivery. They knew exactly where he was.

He was afraid of commiting suicide via cyanide ( like Hitler) to meet his virgins early. So he gave IDF coordinates of his home and ordered Iran radar to be switched off.

DeathParade:
Apples and oranges. Israel Air Force attacked Iran military targets from the get go.

Meanwhile Indian politicians forced Indian Air Force to only attack terrorist targets and avoid Pakistani military targets on that initial day (Read the official written press releases regarding Op Sindoor, they laid clear emphasis on this fact). That was when the downing of the jets in India occurred.

From that day on, the Indian politicians have given the go ahead to Indian Air Force for proper targeting of Pak Military and India responded by hitting 11 major airbases of Pak military and did not lose a single jet (even according to the Pakistanis this is the case. They only claimed to have shot down Indian jets on day one only, when IAF was hitting terror targets).

We seem to be on the same wavelength.

I posted this elsewhere.

My thoughts on IDF attack on Iran.
Iran brags about it's military might IDF planes roamed all over Iranian airspace for 2 hours at least striking preplanned targets precisely to a few meters if not centimeters.

Iran will fire drones and ballistic missiles praying one will land anywhere , kill anyone or cause the whole of Israel to take cover. That's absolute terrorism. They celebrated when their ballistic missile given to the Houthis landed near Ben Gurion airport causing a shutdown of Israel airspace.

Who is the Savage here? No ordinary Iranian is scared that IDF will kill or injure him as long as he stays out of over 99% of Iranian territory. On the other hand the whole of Israel will be in lockdown .

My thoughts on IDF attack on Iran.
Iran brags about it's military might IDF planes roamed all over Iranian airspace for 2 hours at least striking preplanned targets precisely to s few meters if not centimeters.

Iran will fire drones and ballistic missiles praying one will land anywhere , kill anyone or cause the whole of Israel to take cover. That's absolute terrorism. They celebrated when their ballistic missile given to the Houthis landed near Ben Gurion airport causing a shutdown of Israel airspace.

Who is the Savage here? No ordinary Iranian is scared that IDF will kill or injure him as long as he stays out of 99% of Iranian territory. On the other hand the whole of Israel will be in lockdown .

dermmy:
Israel should disable its own centrifuges too and disarm. A nuclear weapon free middle east is in the best interest of every country in the ME. Every nation has the right to have nuclear centrifuges for civilian use and Iran has said it is not seeking nuclear weapons. A deal was in place and the IAEA stated emphatically that Iran was keeping to its own bargain but Israel still had to dictate to America to scuttle the deal.

They scuttled the deal yet still want Iran to continue keeping it's own part of the bargain. You and I know America does not want any country in the region to have military superiority over Israel that's just it. Israel too should disarm. Iran even said we could enrich up to 3% for civilian use and we will be subject to strict inspection but US refused.

If Israel disarms there will no Israel. It's that simple. A tiny country that surrounded by oil rich Arabs with millions of square kilometers of land and

Holla911:
From my pov, I think Iran deliberately refused to activate her air defense system. I believe they have a superior defence system now compared to that which isreal destroyed. Activating it at initial isreal attack will be foolish as isreal will not only know it's location but it's accuracy too.
Iran has weapons and defence system that will suprise many. First, they need excuse to strike at isreal and they've gotten it.
Subsequent attacks will be repelled when the escalation is activated.
Isreal should do away with satanyahu, that man will bring isreal much bloodshed.
Prayers up.

I believe you. I really do. I have insider info
The commander who ordered it switched off had tipped off IDF that he wanted to die and meet his virgins early . He was afraid of taking cyanide like Hitler so he gave IDF the coordinates of his home

Iran had unveiled AESA radar that can detect F-22 and F35s in April this year.

https://english.iswnews.com/37734/iran-deployed-another-meraj-4-long-range-aesa-radar/

In 2020 they also unveiled another advanced radar system.

https://www.defensemirror.com/news/26783/Iran_s_Army_unveils_2_Phased_Array_Radars_to_Detect_Stealth_Aircraft__Missiles

They was just bullshiting. 10 years ago they unveiled a 5th Generation Stealth jet fighter that was clearly a Photoshop. Ahmadihenad inspects the wooden fighter.

Kingsnairaland:
Just out from a three hours meeting what is new here three pages since I left wow

Let pray for the peace of Israel

Iran should calm down and make a non nuke deal

ISRAEL should calm too

Iran has enough oil for its electricity and energy needs for centuries. Why they need to enrich uranium. They should disable the centrifuges, Russia is the world's largest supplier of nuclear fuel to almost every country with nuclear reactors, they will give them in exchange of their drones. Russia supplies 20% America with nuclear fuel ,despite all those sanctions.

Alamkiir:
And yet natanyahu has run out of Isreal. With all this defence he can't stay in Isreal

It's a command and control plane. Birds eye view.
Ever heard if something called remote work. Upwork?

Netanyahu has been saying that the head of the snake is in Tehran. Houthis will quietlyback down throw a few ballistic missiles and drones.
Ayatollah. I expect protests and who knows the theocracy might be taken down. Iranians save for those Islamic are largely secular, their women have higher degree rates than men and fiercely resent the Ayatollah demanding they dress like the Arabic cave people.
There is a lot of silent opposition in Iran , now that the whole country has see it's defences are poweless what might theh do next? Protest. While today Iran chants their Friday 'Death to America and Israel" those chants will largely ring hollow. If IDF can take out apartment Y in a 18 story building leaving every other intact, how will the Mullahs beat their chests in public.
The Rubicon has been crossed. Iran threats throughout the years have been proven totally useless.

Let's see Iran attack Israel because it's not the west.
Big bullied. Cowards.

A senator is allowed to rush to the podium . I didn't know that is not against the law.

WritterNg:
⚡We can expect Ballistic missiles to be launched at a time when the drones are just approaching or entering Israeli airspace, in order to overwhelm the Iron Dome.

Israel has several layers. Iron dome short range , arrow mid range , David sling long range.
Add the new operational laser battery short range.
Their fighter jets can also shoot air to air.

What does Iran have for their defence. IDF is risking pilots to fly to Iran, don't forget they IDF long range ballistic missiles that they have never tested in war.

obedience4:
Drones that will take seven hours?? Our good Arab friends jordan and Iraq, the British airforce in Bahrain and US airforce will used this drones to sharpen their aiming skills

Iran should be firing ballistic missiles into US bases in Iraq, that's the response am looking forward to

USAF has B-52s all overs and 7 B-2 spirit bomber 1000 miles away from. Iran. Those are heavy bombers, I doubt Iran will dare attack any American base. With limited air defences these big bombers will flatten Iranian nuclear plants and military bases.
The ME countries are also happy with Iranian threats being neutered.

sainttwist1:
Let me even ask where is famous Iran air defence?
The one that rival s-400 or something like that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Nairaland war analyst, what happened? Iran is a proper army with everything.

The s-300 were taken out. One was taken out first, when they attacked Israel the other 3 were taken out
The Ayatollah didn't understand what that meant.
He has sent 100 drones to Israel which now also has mobile laser anti drone batteries besides the iron dome.

WritterNg:
The rabid dog Israel will be put down painfully.

They still haven't learnt from the past.

No one should forget, Iran was on its own when Israel decided to strike.

Israel claims to have defeated Hamas and Hezbollah, so why are they now striking Iran??

First to do no dey pain.

Without Iran's money and weapons they would not have brazenly attacked Israel.

MadeInTokyo:
Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Kuwait and other prosperous Arab countries mostly the Shilites Muslims have waited years and prayed for this day to happen, like they did when Sadam Hussein led Iraq was attacked and weakened in the early 90s Gulf war, cos Iran has only brought terrorism to the region by arming terrorists groups like Hezoballah, Hamas, Houthis and several Iranian terrorists backed groups in Iraq which have destabilized the regions.
The real crown Prince of Persia (modern day Iran )
Reza Pahlavi will be happy and patiently waiting to ascend the throne as the legitimate leader of kingdom of Persia (Iran) like other kingdoms like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar,Omar , Jordan and others

Gbam. The Saudi I believe will be the ones ululating. They have some serious military stuff like AWACs the E3 which can alert America ( Israel inherently) of any move by Iranians . The ME is now happily split it into two.

That's how you deal with bullies. Attack them , show them they are naked.
Netanyahu states it will go on for a few more days.
Iran issuing threats to strike US forgets the US has 7 or so B2s just 1000 miles away. They were meant for Iran not for Houthis.
I'm watching liberal TV channels who are showing footage of high rise apartments with only a single unit France 24 is showing two teenagers seated outside with some very slight facial bruises ,the way they show Gaza kids nursing injuries instead if the attacked nuclear reactors. Giving an impression that Israel is attacking civilians.

In other words the Iran S-300 batteries were all destroyed in it's last IDF attack. IDF right now seems to be going in as if there is no anti-aircraft defences in Iran.