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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:40am On Dec 17, 2025
benalvino3:
You have continued to mislead or gaslight and miss all the points just to stay in an argument.
Light I said, two things can be right at the same time. One can criticize someone and call out others for hypocrisy. this does not mean support.

I have never you mocked Charlie, I said coco did. I only say you turn a blind eye to people who do and also acknowledge you have no obligation to on it.

Trump is being criticized and rightly so, for you to turn around and say i am supporting what he did because i call out hypocrisy is disingenuous. Trump is not perfect, like i said he is an open book. people know he says a lot of things, people know he attacks people and go after people who attack him. he has been like this since his days in Hollywood, and they don't care. those things are not important to them. Xi and Putin don't say the things trump say but they can make you disappear. many of the people attacking trump today praise those people.

writing 250 words calling out hypocrisy means i am the hypocrite, how does that work? how is that even a thing?

The way you are seeing things, is like this: If you support someone, you must not have a scintilla of criticism for them. how does that logic work? Everyone here knows I support trump, i am not hiding it, but how do you think because i support trump i must not criticize him? is that how you see things? this is a clear contrast for my way of reasoning and yours.

Trump did something wrong, i criticize him for it yet you see it as support for him because i said some people who are criticizing him also behave like this.

the Message of Jesus was for hypocrites, people who are acting like they are righteous when they are also sinners.
I have always seen this saying as an oxymoron "The Devil you know is better than the angel you don't know" but it makes sense when you don't take the interpretation of devil and angel literally.

someone who sees trump twitters will always pick Putin or Xi over him but who is most likely to make that someone disappear? it is Putin and Xi.

Same way Tyler Robinson was calling Charlie Kirk vile but who has the ability to take someone's life?
Hie long before we hear ,Impeach Trump for falsely stating that Rob Reiner died of TDS.
That lie is worse than arming ISIS,killing Gadaffi or perpetuating Ukraine war.
Id rather have someone bragging about stopping wars than one who started ideological wars.
Who doesn't know Trump will always respond to his critics , who spend 24/7 of their time sabotaging him.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:07am On Dec 17, 2025
🚨 BREAKING: Police are now INVESTIGATING the incident where leftist woman Michelea Ponce harassed and berated an old lady for wearing a Charlie Kirk shirt while working in Target.

Ponce’s employer says police are investigating and that they’ve been FLOODED with calls.

GOOD! This is harassment. We need accountability.

Michelea Ponce is absolute human trash.

She decided to verbally abuse an innocent elderly woman in Target just because she was wearing a Charlie Kirk shirt.

This is the face of the "tolerant" Left. Vile, hateful, and completely soulless.

Enjoy the unemployment line, you miserable wench. You deserve every bit of the ruin coming your way! #target #micheleaponce #RIPCHARLIEKIRK

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:35am On Dec 17, 2025
bayelsaowei:
lies..

Many folks from both sides condemned Kirks killing.

Video clips are all over the place.
The Free Palestine mob and deranged leftists didn't celebrate?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:31am On Dec 17, 2025
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DeepSight:
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Not so fast. You haven't criticized Donald Trump. You merely disagreed with what he said, saying he should not have said so. You have not categorically condemned it as the repugnant and vulgar shameless celebration of violence that it is. You have not spoken to the hypocrisy of him claiming that the left did such regarding Kirk and then proceeding to do the same thing now. You have not said just how callous it is to attribute the death to so called TDS. You have only made a very guarded soft statement that he should not have said what he said. That's not criticism. That can pass as preferential advise.

It still surprised me though that you didn't fall down in worship of the statement.
I've specifically said he didn't die of TDS. That was a wrong thing to say. I will reference Obama shameless wars promoting Islamic terrorism in Libya and Syria. Hundreds of thousands dead because of his direct policies and actions. That were deliberate and he knew it
Obama is not vile because he is handsome and says all the politically correct things. His war in Libya led to looting of Gadaffi armouries,the weapons landed with Boko Haram and others with jihadists in Mali and Mauritania.

Biden is directly responsible for the millions dead in the Ukraine conflict.

Saying stupid things is worse than orchestrating ideological wars where hundreds of thousands die.
Bayelsaoweii, I have previously detailed tens of reasons why I loathe and detest Obama ,I would never share a meal with him.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:29am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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You have heard me criticize Obama.
Selective. You think Obama would date say this

Yesterday (Tuesday, December 16, 2025), at a White House Hanukkah reception, Donald Trump condemned the recent Sydney, Australia, shooting as a "horrific and antisemitic terrorist attack" and declared that "All nations must stand together against the evil forces of radical Islamic terrorism".

In the last few days antisemitic terrorist have a carried out attack
_The Brown university shooting target was the leader of the Republican chapter who supported Israel. The shooter has not been identified.
_Australia saw a terror attack
_An Jewish MIT professor of nuclear and electrical engineering was found killed in his home.

I would hope your criticism of Obama was of downplaying if not outright coverup of Islamic terrorism.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:56am On Dec 17, 2025
cococandy:
How could anyone who’s actually observed Trump be surprised? Genuinely asking because are we supposed to sit here and pretend that this is the most newsworthy disgusting thing he’s said? 50+ years of documented history of being a garbage, perverted conman and people still fell for it.

They’ve been staunchly behind him no matter what. Instead of quietly eating the constant embarrassment that is the lot of any Trump supporter, they are here trying to score some points for the weak lukewarm disapproval they think means something. Mtchew. 🙄

They’re probably in their hive mind with this faux disapproval of Trump because someone high up in their republican echo chamber said something similar.

Give them less than 24 hours and you’ll see them supporting something worse that Trump is doing.
The most protected building on earth couldn't identify who left cocaine in a semi public area.
Joe Biden is your hero, whose son and wife sat in meetings at the WH where pardons were discussed. I'd say sold since the family is a grifting one ,taking money from foreigners for no work done.
Joe Biden worked to jail and kill Trump . That's your dignified hero. But you think making unpalatable comments about his enemy's death is such a huge issue that can trigger a tsunami.
Hypocrite, fed on a raw diet of TDS.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:51am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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The latter.
I'm yet to hear any liberal here criticize any democrat.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:47am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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Amazing. Unbelievable.
What's unbelievable? That a grown man would work to oust a duly elected president Or that I can call out Trump response to his enemies death?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:32am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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I am sure you agree with your god Trump Christ, that Rob Reiner died of TDS, since you believe in TDS.
He died after an argument with his son. His son appeared at a party by his parents wearing a hoodie and berating guests asking them who was famous and stuff like that. They had a bitter argument .
His son was I would say a spoilt brat.With a long history of mental issues ,substance abuse and stints at rehabilitation centres.
Trump's children are highly responsible business men intricately involved in running the family chain of businesses.
Ron Reiner was virulent Trump critic , he formed a group Committee to Investigate Russia with John Clapper, Brennan and Mike Morell as advisors to investigate Trump in 2017 over Russia . He always called him vile,, mentally incapacitated, unfit to be president and every other unprintable word. He was in other words working to oust Trump from the presidency with the same people who created the fake Joint Intelligence Community Assessment.
Trump shouldn't have reacted that way after Reiner's death.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:07pm On Dec 16, 2025
raumdeuter:
^^Many people on the right condemned it when Trump mocked about Reiner's death

Many on the left celebrated the mockery of Charlie Kirks death.

That is the key difference between both parties while the left will take out parties celebrating, The right will condemn it
They won't advice me on whom to support, most likely because they are a gazillion times worse.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:05pm On Dec 16, 2025
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nateevs:
What's funny is that we are not surprised. We could have told you for free that this is normal Trump, 100%.

You should embrace it actually.
Whom do you I should support with some few reasons.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:40am On Dec 16, 2025
bayelsaowei:
this unhinged wereyy of a man has been doing this forever. Uncouth and vile.. are you tired of his highhandedness? Has he started staining your white?

folks like you have always assumed that he is either joking, being real, not being politically correct when he behaves like a child. Some persons here have openly said that the US doesnt need a role model but a solid leader just to support Trumps bad character. This madness of Trump is what drove millions of persons to vote for him.. can those millions of people take a look at the mental patient they've been supporting? Karoline Leavitt will defend this insanity later today.

Trump has insulted reporters calling them unprintable names, insulted immigrants calling them garbage or even worse names.

He works like a raving mad man, but folks say thats what america needs..

TRUMP would do worse than this and many fellow unhinged persons like him would still support him.

Basilico change your ways..
Now that you brought it out, which candidate would you propose I support , and for what reasons?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
feedthenation:
---Felon 47 is a deplorable person---without an ounce of humanity or decency in his life---yet you have accepted / supported him blindly with his other TruthSocial posts being nasty to others---
Trump is a troll. I support his position in many matters. Start with Palestinian, Russia war and his efforts to bring down globalists . Add climate change and use of Fossil fuels.
Frack baby frack.
That outburst was uncalled for in the wake of Rob Reiner's death.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:25pm On Dec 15, 2025
I strongly disapprove this message .
It's callous.

Everyone happy?

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:06am On Dec 15, 2025
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Nastymods:
Tha terrorist isa losi tha ah gun

Isa brother isa still ah shooting for tha budaatum Allah
So a Muslim attacked Jews celebrating Channuka or whatever. .Sajid Akram was stopped by a fellow Muslim .
So the solution to stopping Islamic terrorism is to import more Muslims who can stop Akram fellow ideologists.

Do your kikikiki 😍
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
bayelsaowei:
This is what human worship can cause.
You don't think Trump deserves a third term?

Explain this to me. I'm an electrical engineer,when I see a blue LED bulb my mind takes me to the decades of research to produce the blue LED which combined with the primary colours produces white light in bulbs. In other words I'm a critical thinker by training with an exceptional mind for aggregating data points.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:02am On Dec 14, 2025
Putin don't fear emasculated British .

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:22am On Dec 14, 2025
feedthenation:
---Felon 47---aka 'Trump novelty condoms' on display for $4.50 on Epstein island---the fact that Epstein had Felon 47 condoms---then Felon 47 must be fully aware Esptein 'sexµal' activities around him---
So felon47 has branded condoms that only Epstein stocked.
Why didn't Obama and Biden release this info. They wanted Trump dead, that would have been a sure killer

https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-clintons-must-appear-for-depositions-or-face-contempt-of-congress/

The Clintons are the ones who won't appear for depositions
Billarys have stalled for 4 months to give their testimony.It has been more than four months since Bill and Hillary Clinton were subpoenaed to sit for depositions related to our investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s horrific crimes. Throughout that time, the former President and former Secretary of State have delayed, obstructed, and largely ignored the Committee staff’s efforts to schedule their testimony.

Y'all fake interest in Epstein is tying him to Trump, you got no sympathies to his victims at all.
*Spits*
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:00pm On Dec 13, 2025
Roland17:
Ahhhh! The usual blame the democrats game.

Is DOGE an act of congress? Where does it get its legitimacy from? Is it overseen by Congress?

You just exposed the exact reason why you don’t use executive orders to create department that would be responsible for managing any aspect of sensitive US spending.

It was nothing but a charade.

Besides, is DOGE responsible for the 1 Trillion dollars spent in 1 year?
DOGE is not an act of congress. Illegal? You have been taught to think so, I'll change your mind in a minute.
DOGE was created by Obama.
As United States Digital Service (USDS),
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:44pm On Dec 13, 2025
raumdeuter:
So he wasn't a US citizen, he was a green card holder who self deported

News flash. Green cards are revocable and you can lose it.

Next time do better research and dont let media make a mockery of you
I've answered him with a TLDR reply.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:13pm On Dec 13, 2025
bayelsaowei:
twisted story Mr man..

I doubt assault was part of his records.. you better check your facts again. It was mainly drug related and was due to PTSD.

Whilst his green card was revoked and he put on removal order he was allowed to stay in the US and required annual check-ins with immigration agent - wh<hich happens for individuals that are not considered top priority for deportation by ICE. And we know why Sae Joon Parks case is/was a special one.

But Trump and his team are out there to deport just about anybody and not willing to carefully follow due process in reviewing cases meticulously, even for those who have served and taken bullets for the country.
The main reason I stopped using Google and now use chatbots to ferret out.

Question: Sae Joon Park his story briefly. Justify why he was deported.
Answer
(25 results)

Sae Joon Park's Brief Story
Sae Joon Park, born in South Korea, immigrated legally to the United States at age 7 and grew up in areas like Los Angeles (Koreatown and San Fernando Valley) and later Hawaii. He joined the U.S. Army after high school, serving in the 1989 invasion of Panama where he was shot twice, earning a Purple Heart and an honorable discharge. As a green card holder (permanent resident but not a U.S. citizen), he struggled with undiagnosed PTSD after service, leading to substance abuse issues. In the 1990s–2000s, he faced arrests, including for drug possession (e.g., attempting to buy crack cocaine), bail jumping (failing to appear in court), and other charges such as assault, carrying a loaded firearm, and possession/manufacturing/selling a dangerous weapon. He served prison time around 2009–2011.In 2010, an immigration judge issued a final removal order due to these convictions, but he was allowed to remain in the U.S. under supervision with annual ICE check-ins (not a deportation priority at the time). He stayed clean and sober for over a decade, raising two children and caring for his family.In June 2025, under the Trump administration's intensified immigration enforcement, ICE enforced the old order: during a check-in, he was fitted with an ankle monitor and given weeks to leave voluntarily or face detention and forced deportation. On June 23, 2025, at age 55, Park self-deported to South Korea—a country he barely remembered and where he struggled with the language and daily life. His case drew attention in a December 2025 congressional hearing, where he appeared via Zoom, highlighting debates over veteran treatment.Justification for DeportationPark was deportable under U.S. immigration law because certain criminal convictions trigger removal for non-citizens, even long-term green card holders. Key grounds included:Convictions for controlled substance offenses (drug possession), classified as deportable under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA § 237(a)(2)(B)(i)).
Bail jumping/failure to appear, treated as an aggravated felony or crime involving moral turpitude in some contexts, barring relief from deportation.
Additional convictions (e.g., firearm-related, assault) cited by DHS as part of an "extensive criminal history," making him ineligible for discretionary relief.

His prior final removal order (from 2010, upheld on appeal in 2011) had no remaining legal basis to challenge. Military service does not automatically exempt non-citizen veterans from immigration consequences of crimes, though critics argue PTSD mitigation and his contributions warranted discretion (which DHS did not grant). The 2025 enforcement reflected broader policy prioritizing removal of those with criminal records, regardless of time elapsed or rehabilitation. DHS emphasized laws must be enforced, while opponents called it harsh for a decorated veteran.

**25 web pages




My verdict. Nur Ilhan Elmi Said Abdullahi Omar is a better candidate to deport than him.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:41am On Dec 13, 2025
feedthenation:
---Felon 47, Clinton and others included in Epstein photo trove---

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/photos-show-trump-epstein-survivors-152043365.html
This photo of Trump surrounded by 6 girls whose faces are blacked out . Allows your type to believe they were children.
No they were not.
The photo in question—from the Epstein files, showing Trump surrounded by women wearing Hawaiian leis—depicts adult models from a Hawaiian Tropic suntan lotion promotional event at Mar-a-Lago, likely around 1998. Hawaiian Tropic was a separate brand that sponsored its own bikini/pageant-style competitions (Miss Hawaiian Tropic), unrelated to the Miss Universe franchise Trump owned.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/12/12/epstein-trump-new-photos-released-clinton/

The blacked out faces are meant to imply they are children. An X user tracked several girls in the photo,they all say Trump acted appropriately and they were all above 20 years.

Trump purchased the Miss Universe Organization in 1996, which included Miss Universe, Miss USA, and Miss Teen USA. He owned and co-owned (with NBC from 2002 onward) these until selling the entire organization in 2015. Any time you rush to post photos of him surrounded by women ,remember that .

Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 9:19am On Dec 13, 2025
WriteerNg:
⚡A leaked draft of the Trump administration’s National Security Strategy allegedly proposes encouraging Austria, Hungary, Italy, and Poland to distance themselves from—or even leave—the EU as part of a “Make Europe Great Again” effort to weaken Brussels and boost national sovereignty.

The White House denies the draft exists, calling the leak fabricated.

But the report—first published by Defense One on Dec. 10—has triggered strong reactions across Europe, with officials accusing Washington of meddling in EU unity.
Europe is fractured . The hard right (with latent racist positions) is on the rise.
EU will use the DSA Act to fine X (Twitter ) into bankruptcy to limit it's mobilization of the right.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:11am On Dec 13, 2025
WriteerNg:


On the other hand, economic giants like Russia and China have had budget surpluses back to back to back.
Blame the MBA CEOs who deliver value to the shareholder when they slash costs by shifting manufacturing and business process outsourcing abroad.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
feedthenation:
---Felon 47, Clinton and others included in Epstein photo trove---

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/photos-show-trump-epstein-survivors-152043365.html
The photos were released by House Democrats, some of which Obrigardo keeps repeating here. There should be tens of thousands of photos (90,000 ? ) and democrats released 19 of them only . It's a pattern that's developing, with them getting stuff out on the news especially over a weekend .
Id rather wait and hear the response from the Republican in the same committee.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:12pm On Dec 12, 2025
Gavin Newscum to Elon Musk

We’re sorry your daughter hates you, Elon,” Newsom’s press office wrote in response to a clip posted by Musk’s America PAC of the lefty presidential hopeful bragging about passing more pro-trans laws than any other governor.

Elon shot back.

“I assume you’re referring to my son, Xavier, who has a tragic mental illness caused by the evil woke mind virus you push on vulnerable children,” Musk shot back on X.

“I love Xavier very much and hope he recovers,” he added.

“My daughters are Azure, Exa (she goes by Y) and Arcadia, and they do indeed love me very much,” he assured.


Democrats celebrating after corrupting a young mans mind .
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:02am On Dec 12, 2025
happney65:
Breaking news: The redistricting effort in Indiana fails as Republican lawmakers deliver a rare rebuke of President Trump, as some GOP state senators sided with Democrats to kill a plan to alter Indiana’s voting map.

News
Core Republicans want to lose the house in the midterms. 20 planning to resign before then
Senate not approving US Attorneys.
Not a single democrat has been prosecuted.
Tina Peters is still in jail.
Judges blocking every significant executive action ,Ketanji argued that a president should not have powers to fire PhDs who run federal agencies in the economy and transport sectors.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
BLM cofounder Patrisse Cullors was reported to have gone on a shopping spree buying up real estate by April 2021.She resigned in May 2021.
She has been indicted , 20 counts facing decades in prison. She'd bought a 2500 sq feet mansion in an affluent white neighbourhood (,89% white ,1 9% black). She is charged with raising millions to bail out BLM protesters but used it to fund her lavish lifestyle.


Her cofounder Opal Tometi who invited Maduro to speak at BLM meetings was reported to have recieved suitcases of cash from Chavez and Maduro .

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:15am On Dec 12, 2025
We got her this time. Democrats pounce.

Tricia McLaughlin
@TriciaOhio
Some pesky facts
@SethMagaziner
conveniently failed to mention:

Sae Joon Park’s extensive criminal history includes convictions for
-assault
-possessing, manufacturing, or selling a dangerous weapon
-carrying a loaded firearm in a public place
-criminal possession of a controlled substance

In 2010 an immigration judge issued him an order of removal. Park’s appeal to the Board of Immigration Appeals that same month was dismissed by the Board in April 2011. With no legal basis to remain in the U.S. and a final order of removal, Park was allowed to self-deport to Korea.

President Trump and Secretary Noem have been clear: criminal illegal aliens are not welcome in the U.S.

Another epic fail. Democrats are such liars.
Moreover, Park’s green card was revoked, and he was given a removal order in 2009 after serving three years in prison.

Park also had the opportunity to pursue citizenship, but decided never to do so during his nearly five decades in America.


bayelsaowei:
US army veteran deported and evidence presented to madam Neom.

Its happening.. the highhandedness and carelessness of the ICE raids.

Raumdeuter.. its happening..

Hopefully there is an explanation for this, if not its not gonna look good for Trump and his administration.

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