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budaatum:
If he shouldn't have, why did those who should have it give it to him?

And why shouldn't they be prosecuted for so doing?

Uprightness100:
BREAKING:
Protesters in Gaza now chant “Hamas is a terrorist group.”

But where were their voices on October 7? Oh right—they were cheering as Jews were slaughtered.

Just because they are protesting Hamas does not mean they love Israel.

It's Just that ISRAEL understands the language TERRORISTS and TERRORISTS SYMPATHIZERS hear and ISRAEL is giving it to them Full Fold.

THE Brain of many has been reseted.

budaatum:
Why or how is he aware his invite was an error when he didn't even know if the group he was invited to was legit or a spoof?

And why does he not have the right to read what he received when he thought it was a spoof and didn't come with a warning that it was classified, which he wouldn't even know if it was unless he read it?

As to admitting whether he did read it, I think we know the answer to that. In fact, not only did he read it, he has provided extracts for you to read too. So by your reckoning, you and I and the entire world risk imprisonment, lol. Unless you are one of those lucky or savvy ones who covered your eyes to what he published so you couldn't read it.

He is a journalist. He can't not be curious.

nateevs:
It's how the Espionage Act works actually. And it comes down to security clearance. In the world of Intelligence, never mind the MAGAbots, procedure applies when clearing an individual to handle confidential information. . All these folks who work around government and media understand the basics of this.

Therefore, regardless of being invited to the chat, in the world of the NSA, that doesn't equate to security clearance. The reporter is very well aware that said invitation is erroneous, and consequently must treat everything handled as classified.

He will have to answer the question, did you or did you not know that your invitation was an error? And that's where everything falls apart.

No, he does not have every right to read it. He may, but he can never admit that he did. If he does, he risks imprisonment.

budaatum:
Why or how is he aware his invite was an error when he didn't even know if the group he was invited to was legit or a spoof?

And why does he not have the right to read what he received when he thought it was a spoof and didn't come with a warning that it was classified, which he wouldn't even know if it was unless he read it?

As to admitting whether he did read it, I think we know the answer to that. In fact, not only did he read it, he has provided extracts for you to read too. So by your reckoning, you and I and the entire world risk imprisonment, lol. Unless you are one of those lucky or savvy ones who covered your eyes to what he published so you couldn't read it.

He is a journalist. He can't not be curious.

nateevs:
Let's not forget the premise of my assessment. The conversation was not carried out in a SCIF. And considering this is a high-profile meeting of the 6 most-senior national security officials in the country and more, a file of two were shared about the war plans.

The premise of my conclusions is based entirely on this. If any files were shared on the app, they would have been clearly marked minium, TOP- SECRET. If such files were in there and reporter goes on to read them, he can never admit that he did. If he does, he has no security clearance to do so, and it would become a crime. That's how it works.



Look at the publication from Jeffery Golberg himself. The title alone gives away the fact that he became aware at some point that he was added erroneously. And also, very crucially, he removed himself from the group. This is consciousness of the situation.


His story is beautifully written. He feigned not knowing it was real until he saw reports of the bombings on X. It's good legal cover. But as a senior reporter, he knew that if he continued to stay on the group, he would be in breach of the Espionage Act. And so he removed himself, despite being accidentally added.


He declined to publish the name of an active CIA operative on the group. He also declined quoting from certain texts messages from Pete Hegseth, because of the classification of the information, and potential endangerment of American Military Operations. He did so because, again, he became aware, and if he did publish, that would be a crime.

To be honest, you and I are on the same side of this argument. We are being side tracked by this nuance of right and wrong. It's not necessary.

Let's fall back to the MAGAbots responsible for/defending this atrocious security breach.

PDPGuy:
The group text is irrelevant. Who added Goldberg is irrelevant. What matters is that they are willfully and deliberately using an unclassified system for classified info.

It is not incompetence, they know exactly what they are doing. If any of us did that, we would be fired on the spot, investigated, and possibly charged with a big beautiful crime. That I can tell you!

cococandy:
And y’all can say what you want about Goldberg, he waited until after the action to speak up. He was more responsible than any of the heads of security that we depend on for our safety. If he went for clout the moment he got the messages and the mission got compromised, the American troops lives that could’ve been risked/lost would squarely be on Hegseth’s hands.

Hegseth should be thanking him with a bottle of gin & a sack of kola nuts. Instead of blowing hot like a teenage hothead. I’m glad Goldberg brought it to the public. If he went to them privately, they would cover it up to avoid losing face. Who knows what would’ve quietly happened to him to make the story disappear. And none of us would be the wiser.

GloriousGbola:
i am currently in over 20 project related whatsapp groups.
i make it a habit to get the names of everyone in the group because i want to know everyone who is present . this is simple common sense . now you are discussing matters of national security and you allegedly do not know and cannot be bothered to take 30 seconds to check everyone who is in the group?

america don cast true true

cococandy:
Pete Hegseth said otherwise. You guys need to go back to the drawing board and get your lies/story straight so you can have one united front.

cococandy:
So it both didn’t happen and was simultaneously a deliberate leak? Oh the mental gymnastics 🤸🤸🏾‍♂️🤸🏿‍♀️

IjeBos:
You've written about 20 posts on this trying to gaslight.

1.) The guy Bemeruca (too dumb to think of that himself) got that conspiracy theory from, already debunked his own conspiracy theory about a purposeful effort to get a message to Europe.

2.) Because it is illegal on it's face to speak about classified info in an unclassified space. In any other White House the DOJ would have opened up an investigation already to figure out what sources and methods may have been compromised. One of the members was texting from Russia where he was having a meeting. Russia tries to hack everything and the assumption there is your device is compromised.

3.) Despite what Hegseth said, the White House has already confirmed this happened. It's not a he said she said story. It happened. Who you may think Goldberg is has no bearing on what he reported as it has been confirmed.

4.) Again, it doesn't matter who set up the chat or who accidentally added Hegseth, everybody in that chat knew what they were doing was wrong, most likely illegal and very reckless.
The people who were supposed to safeguard American secrets all were overly reckless with it.
In any other administration they would resign. They should resign,be investigated and be prosecuted.

budaatum:
I can't understand why you are letting him clown your time on this issue.

Just heard him on C-Span dribbling around every fact presented to him claiming he has to be convinced.

I'm like, "who gives a flying fuq convincing basilico who sticks his head in mules2000"?

C-Span agreed and cut him off.

Maeve7:
What if horses could fly. Irrelevant.

Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f***ing Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!”

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I don’t appreciate how you are exploiting my sister’s death for politics- hurtful & disrespectful to the important changes she made for service members. President Donald Trump did nothing but show respect to my family & Vanessa. In fact, I voted for President Trump today.

Maeve7:
It’s very rich for a Trump supporter to hold people accountable to any moral standards.

A journalist does that and you should be grateful he is exposing incompetent politicians. That’s his job.

Maeve7:
They should have ALL known better what to post and what not to post. No excuses, please.

bemeruca:
I said it's a deliberate leak to the press. I don't understand how the guys from the other side don't see this.

It's simply to send a message that Europe is free-loading on the US, a useless continent killing itself

Maeve7:
Today’s scandal is on the front page of every news outlet. Focus Basilico, focus.

Your side is not better. Lock him up!

GloriousGbola:
i see you have already received your marching orders

ono:
Hegseth has come out boldly to deny any convo on signal.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth Responds to Atlantic Report: ‘Nobody Was Texting War Plans’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/24/defense-secretary-pete-hegseth-responds-atlantic-report-nobody-texting-war-plans/

That should calm people with TDS down.

GloriousGbola:
you are talking absolute bs as usual

the attraction of these apps is they are end to end encrypted [when they are not hacked]

only the users can save records. there is no central database. i am responsbile for backing my chats, not whatsapp /facebook

if you are in a meeting on an app like Ms teams - there is an official record within company archives. a chat on WhatsApp only has the record if a user choses to save it. and a user can tweak the saved record

this is SOP for your heroes. they dont want any record of their fuckery so they can deny down the line when it all goes sideways

it is not a bug, it is a feature of a gang of corrupt, incompetent, inexperienced dui clowns

GloriousGbola:
polygraph tests have long been discredited as un reliable

this is a direct soundbite from your movie president - made for the rubes to swallow. how soon before they move to actual waterboarding?

GloriousGbola:
the backstory is obvious

these clowns did not want an official record.

it is that simple

today engineers in nigeria run and coordinate multiple projects off whatsapp groups

there is just one problem with this. whatsapp is not a corporate messaging service. and there is no way of integrating it to date

so records of conversations are not available

it is even debatable as to whether one can admit whatsapp convos if shit goes sideways

can an instruction given on whatsapp count as a legal instruction?

back then i tried to see how we could use apps taht were designed for this - but it went nowhere

on a whatsapp group people can add others without asking you unless you lock it down. you can be hacked. if my memory serves, it was through whatsapp that MBS hacked jeff bezos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos_phone_hacking_incident



now you have a bunch of clowns running americas miliary policy off an insecure app. i will not be surprised if they have already been hacked to by multiple non state actors and someone leaked this to stop it before these clowns actually get people killed

this is enigma levels of fuckery right here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine



MAGA!!!
now take this and multiply it. this is what happens when obsequiousness [if you believe vance is loyal, you are on a long thing] is the sole driver for engagement in this administration

GloriousGbola:
i am sure you think he and his gang of teeny bopper are supposed to be involved in national security

dangote is the richest man in africa - but even a third world country has leaders with enough sense to keep businessmen with their personal agenda out of government

i guess this logic is way above your pay grade - as a maga matter

don't try to deflect from reality while waiting for the masters from your echo chamber tell you how to spin this. you have been flailing around for the past three hours trying to deny this happened. don't worry - i can read out your instructions . it is not a big deal. America biggest country in the world. doesn’t matter.

now start parroting that instead of humping the nuts of leon musk

cococandy:
Very unserious set of people.

Pete Hegseth immediately denied before he knew others had already admitted it happened. As a former Fox News host that he is, you can tell he’s programmed to automatically lie.