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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:37pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
I know the war is about the control of mineral resources in some area of Congo, reason Rwanda and SA were also involved on opposite end. I read about the offer from Congolese President to Trump if Trump should end the war in his favour. I am not even particular about all these minerals deals (good or bad) and I prefer peace even at the cost of mineral exploitations from US or other places.... But for raumdeuter to tie this to Trump now being a lover of blacks and Africa is a bs taking too far.
Give it to Trump . A peacemaker through strength and a deal broker per excellence. Knows how to use leverage to achieve his plans.
Of course you think he hates black people , I don't think he does .
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:34pm On Jun 28, 2025
raumdeuter:
I was going to post that Justice Kagan already supported the ruling from her speech in 2022 but opposed her own opinion yesterday

Shows many of these judges are not acting in good faith
The democrats are working in unison ie the media, non profits, politicians and judges to derail and hamstring any Trump achievement.
Add Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell “Too Late—Powell is the WORST. A real dummy, who is costing America $Billions!” .
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:25pm On Jun 28, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
lol... That lady is smart. She knows Trump's mumu-button grin Just praise him a bit, tell him everyone loves him, tell him he is better than Biden and he is most qualified for Nobel Peace Prize and Trump will do your wishes even though he hates your face and gut. Someone who cried openly for Iran's 'thank you' is only a baby in an old man's body. Imagine Trump wishing all the journalists covering him are like the lady, who will only praise him and say beautiful things to him grin

The lady is a loyal Congolese and she knows just what to say to get Trump dance to Congo wishes and end the war in Congo.

If I get a chance to get the racist Trump do something for Africa, I will also have to say all that and even more. cheesy
Are you aware that Chinese control mining in Congo. DRC is very rich 67% natural forests, 11% arable land and minerals are found in almost 35% of it's 2.35 million sq kilometers.

The conflict are from external forces with Rwanda being a big player fueling it. They want the minerals . There are ethnic groups that were separated by colonial borders during the Scramble for Africa that reside in both countries.

Trump is after cobalt for batteries that's found in plenty .
They had proposed a security guarantee similar to Ukraine.

Trust Trump to demand something big in return.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:11pm On Jun 28, 2025
Bemeruca Raumdeuter
Justice Kagan dissented in SCOTUS decision on district judges and national injunctions.
In 2022 when Joe Biden was president she said.

“It just can’t be right that one district judge can stop a nationwide policy in its tracks and leave it stopped for the years that it takes to go through the normal process.”
She also commented on the practice of "forum shopping," stating:
“You look at something like that and you think, that can’t be right. In the Trump years, people used to go to the Northern District of California, and in the Biden years, they go to Texas.”



Translation.
Some of Her decisions are based on political partisanship first then looking for relevant laws for justification.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:09am On Jun 28, 2025
budaatum:
And they will dictate what is read in schools.
When it comes to discipline cases in a schools teachers blame the parents.
When it comes to lbgtq teaching in schools the teachers demand parents drop off their kids at the gate and leave the teachers to do what they know best .
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
feedthenation:
---Don't worry he will soon be taken by ICE and deported to El-Salvador---as US Rep. Andy Ogles (R) sent a letter to AG Pam Bondi calling for the denaturalization and deportation of NYC Democrat mayoral nominee, Zohran Mamdani---Rep. Andy Ogles cites that Mamdani may have concealed "material in support for terrorism" when he obtained U.S. citizenship---
I'm supposed to believe you and not what this learned man is saying.



There are already Muslim patrol cars in New York. In future they will be arresting those liberal hotheads who won't wear a headbag .

https://sahlahacademy.net/muslim-community-patrol/

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
bemeruca:
Jackson is a DEI appointee
She was purposely put in place. Garland nomination was scuttled by McConnell. He was made AG to give way specifically for her. Jim Clyburn demand was Biden appoints a black woman to the SCOTUS.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/inside-jim-clyburn-s-biden-election-endorsement-how-biden-almost-ncna1255414
You've had a couple of opportunities to mention naming a Black woman to the Supreme Court," Clyburn lectured his friend of nearly half a century, like a schoolteacher scolding a child. "I'm telling you, don't you leave the stage tonight without making it known that you will do that
There would be s constitutional crisis if it's proven that
_ Biden wasn't running the show
_ Biden didn't win 2020.

Would her nomination be revoked. She better be careful, her job is to interpret the law as written not to make up laws on the fly.
Obama and Jim Clyburn had ganged up way back in Feb 2020 to whittle down Bernie Sanders popularity, to have a puppet they could control. In other words Ketanji Brown was an Obama idea. Obama is the one who called up other contestants to drop out in favour of Biden during the democrat primaries.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:12am On Jun 28, 2025
PDPGuy:
We need the Supreme Court to issue a DEFINITVE substantive opinion on whether or not Trump’s Birthright citizen EO is in compliance with the 14th Amendment..

Today’s ruling, although purely procedural, practically sets different citizenship standards in different states/judicial circuits.
Will be deferred to Congress. There are many cases of pregnant women crossing the border to give birth on American soil.
Like this Chinese birth tourism scheme
https://apnews.com/article/california-birth-tourism-china-pregnant-travelers-citizenship-b22eb4efe701ae0083b1b335c35fbf47

There does seem to be some loophole in birthright citizenship, kudos to Trump to take this upto the Supreme Court to settle the matter once and for all. I can see some useless posters here claiming that they want America to be a White Man's land , yet there are generational black people and Latinos whose ancestry goes back hundreds of years.
If am American citizen gets a child anywhere in earth the child is automatically granted citizenship, almost every country does that to its citizens.
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A jury on Friday convicted a Southern California couple of running a business that helped pregnant Chinese women travel to the United States without revealing their intentions to give birth to babies who would automatically have American citizenship......
The case against the pair went to trial nine years after federal authorities searched more than a dozen homes across Southern California in a crackdown on so-called birth tourism operators who authorities said encouraged pregnant women to lie on their visa paperwork and hide their pregnancies and helped the women travel to deliver their babies in the United States .


The judges by the arguments I've seen will ask Congress to make it law,If the intent of the framers of the constitution is interrogated,I believe they didn't intend for birthright citizenship to anyone who gave birth on American soil.
I'm willing to state on record that it's the black people here who want the white man be a minority in his own country and not vice versa
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:49am On Jun 28, 2025
Budaatum. This case went to Supreme Court ,a 6-3 decision in favour of the parents

The case surrounded a controversial policy in Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS) in Maryland. Several parents wanted the option to opt their children out of curriculum with LGBTQ+ themes. The parents wanted this option due to their religious beliefs.

However, the school system did not allow the parents to opt their children out of these lessons.


Liberals must teach your kids about Lbgtq. Did this have to go SCOTUS?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 4:33am On Jun 28, 2025
LordAdam16:
Iran's gains

1. Iran preserved its nuclear program.
2. Iran foiled USreal regime change operation and gained more legitimacy after 90m Iranians rallied around the flag. Out went anti hijab protests. In came "strike Tel Aviv" protests.
3. Iran found a legitimate reason to stop all cooperation with the IAEA. The IAEA forwarded names of Iranian nuclear scientists to Mossad to be assassinated. For the foreseeable future, Iran can now build, transfer, and expand its nuclear program without IAEA interference.
4. Iran demonstrated that it could singlehandedly destroy Israel by conventional means. No nukes necessary.
5. Iran demonstrated that all US bases in every Gulf country can be destroyed in a confrontation.

Israel's losses

1. Israel's air of invincibility has been irreparably shattered.
2. Israel threw the first sucker punch, retained the element of surprise, had active assistance from the US + NATO + Gulf Vassals with land-, air-, and sea-based air defense systems. Regardless, it incurred more damage in 12 days than it sustained in 2 years of war prior to the 12 day war. Satanyahu came on air and admitted that he could not continue a war of attrition. Iran did this alone.
3. 17,000 Israelis were displaced. Citizens were held hostage. Nationals escaped in yachts. Tens of thousands of buildings were destroyed. Port, Refinery, Military Facilities, Government installations, Research facilities, Office complexes were all targeted and destroyed. Iran reserved the capacity to destroy 80% of Israel's water supply but held back for obvious reasons. All of Palestine was Iran's canvas.
4. Iran was open to making compromises on enrichment. Iran has walked back those moves. It now pursues a steely strict red line on enrichment, its missile program, and its relations with regional paramilitary allies.
5. Iran's nuclear program, formerly visible to the West-controlled regulatory organization has gone dark. Enrichment and indigenous weaponization will continue unabated.
6. Israel's decades-in-the-making spy network in Iran has suffered the worst setback in Mo$$ad history. This will continue. Iran will deport Israeli intelligence ready supply of illegal aliens, uncover cells and execute the agents, destroy Israeli cache of drones and sabotage equipment, and more.
7. The Iranian liberal Western-aligned bloc that had accumulated decades worth of political capital and infiltrated all the way up to the President has lost its momentum. As in Russia, the fifth column have been exposed as collaborators of the enemies of Persia. All of the effort built over decades with the assistance of Western intelligence and Diasporan monarchists/liberals/westernophiles. Poof. Gone in smoke in 12 days.

The Iran of June 1, 2025 and the Iran of June 27, 2025 are two very different entities. The former treated Israel an irritant that it had to be careful with because it wanted closer relations with the West through sanctions relief. The latter will treat Israel as an existential threat to its 5,000 year civilization. Sanctions be damned.

It will expand its missile arsenal with one goal in mind. Congratulations, y'all played yourselves.

-Lord
In summary Iran military doctrine will be to study how Israel managed to bomb Iranian targets via land or sea. Will spend the next decade designing strategies to defeat Israel in their next conflict
Aran countries have done that before starting after 1967. Six Day war. Spent years sealing the loopholes Israel used to defeat them. A fool's errand because Mossad and IDF are thinking far ahead . Example.
Who'd have thought pagers and walkie talkies would blow up? Hesbollah thought cellphones could be hacked, didn't know pager batteries bought from Eastern Europe carry explosives.
Who would have thought 4 batteries of S-300 would be taken out by IDF? Giving IDF complete air superiority
Who'd have thought 20 Generals would be tricked into a meeting by IDF?
If there is another war ,I guess IDF will send autiomous 100,000 Terminator robots as ground troops Iran will spend another decade researching on how to blow up AI robots. Then resume hostilities
Next conflict IDF sends 2 trillion locust drones to block Iranian airspace Tehran spends another decade developing anti locust drone air defence system. Then next hostility.
And so on ad infinitum. Living for the next conflict
***Spits****
Iran spent decades building missiles to strike Israel. What for, Israel is 2,000 km away . Iran has spent billions arming it's proxies to attack Israel Again , what for? A country 20,000 square kilometers against Iran millions of square kilometers.
You don't see a problem here? Iran is not ipart of the green shaded countries.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:04pm On Jun 27, 2025
budaatum:
The Israeli military has launched an investigation into possible war crimes following growing evidence that troops have deliberately fired at Palestinian civilians gathering to receive aid in Gaza.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/27/idf-opens-inquiry-into-possible-war-crimes-after-deaths-near-gaza-aid-sites
That's what a proper army does. I doubt the whole story , Maybe taken out of context. I don't know whether you are aware that Hamas never releases nanes of the dead women and children When they did that a lot of those names phone numbers were active, some were actually calling and texting while dead.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:53pm On Jun 27, 2025
bemeruca:
I can see the meltdown all the way from Aba. Not that it will affect her.
Activist judges have been informed by SCOTUS that God doesn't wear black robes.
I've been complaining all along calling them Obama Clinton Biden judges . They are deliberately sabotaging the Trump administration.
In Maryland any illegal filing suit against deportation automatically gets an injunction in his favour, whether he is detained in a different jurisdiction.
It's a big win, I dont rule out Trump being vindictive henceforth.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 9:35pm On Jun 27, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
Don't bother yourself with that. I know much more about Hamas than you. Whatever their former or current objectives are, they're a direct result of Israeli atrocities which the whole world can see. Just justify the report below and tell me how Israel is not as bad as Boko Haram

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/17/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-gaza-aid-06-17-2025/da07a62e-4b4d-11f0-8fff-262d6ec54ab9_story.html
Typical . Every never do well blames his parents for neglect or abuse etc.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 5:37pm On Jun 27, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
So you do know they have a new charter. That's a progress. Now how about I show you quotes from elected Israeli leaders calling for the extermination of Palestinians?
I have answered you just now . I got banned for quoting the Hamas charters of 2008 and 2017.

The Hamas charters of 1988 and 2017 outline the organization’s stance on Israel, reflecting significant differences in tone, rhetoric, and apparent pragmatism while maintaining core ideological goals. Below is a summary of what each charter says about Israel, based on available sources, addressing the first (1988) and second (2017) versions.
1988 Hamas Charter
The 1988 charter, issued on August 18, 1988, is a 36-article manifesto rooted in religious rhetoric and an uncompromising stance against Israel. Key points about Israel include:
Destruction of Israel as a Goal: The preamble explicitly states, “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it,” quoting Hassan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. This frames the conflict as a religious struggle, with Israel’s elimination as a divine mandate.

Jihad as the Path: Article 6 declares Hamas’s intent to “raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine” through jihad (Islamic holy war), rejecting any secular or negotiated solution. Article 8 reinforces this, stating, “Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.”

Antisemitic Framing: The charter portrays the struggle as against “the Jews,” accusing them of global conspiracies, referencing the antisemitic forgery “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” (Article 32). It claims Jews challenge Islam and Muslims, with phrases like “Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Muslim people” (Article 28).

Rejection of Peace Negotiations: The charter dismisses peace initiatives, such as those by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), as incompatible with Hamas’s Islamic vision. It states that Palestine is an “Islamic endowment” (waqf) and cannot be ceded, rejecting any compromise like a two-state solution (Article 11).

Call for Liberation: The charter demands the “liberation” of all of historical Palestine (from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea), implying the dissolution of Israel as a state. It calls for Arab and Islamic nations to support this through jihad (Article 15).

The 1988 charter is overtly antisemitic, uncompromising, and focused on eliminating Israel through violent jihad, framing the conflict as a religious and existential battle.
2017 Hamas Charter
The 2017 charter, titled “A Document of General Principles and Policies,” was unveiled on May 1, 2017, in Doha by Khaled Mashal. It shifts to more pragmatic and nationalist language, softening some of the 1988 rhetoric while retaining core goals. Key points about Israel include:
Provisional Acceptance of 1967 Borders: The charter accepts “the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees” as a “formula of national consensus.” This implies a provisional acceptance of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza but does not explicitly recognize Israel’s legitimacy.

Anti-Zionist, Not Anti-Jewish: Unlike the 1988 charter, it removes antisemitic language, stating, “Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project, not with the Jews because of their religion” (Article 16). It blames Zionists for conflating Judaism with their “colonial project” and calls Zionism a “racist, aggressive, colonial and expansionist project” (Article 14).

Continued Goal of Full Liberation: Despite the 1967 borders concession, the charter maintains the long-term goal of “the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea,” implying no permanent recognition of Israel (Article 20). It views a two-state solution as a temporary stage, not a final resolution.

Legitimacy of Armed Resistance: The charter justifies “armed resistance” against Israel as a “legitimate right” under international law to confront the “Zionist occupation” (Article 25). It rejects agreements like the Oslo Accords as incompatible with Palestinian rights and international law, calling Israel’s establishment “entirely illegal” (Article 18).

Non-Interference Clarification: The charter emphasizes that Hamas’s struggle is limited to Israel and the “Zionist project,” avoiding interference in other countries’ affairs, likely to appease regional powers like Egypt (Article 3
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 5:27pm On Jun 27, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
@Basilico I dare you to come and explain this to me like a 3-year old. I'm all ears

I don't believe it. Haaretz has made false claims in the past. I doubt such orders have been issued. Provide me the full transcript of what that solder revealed. Or forever hold your peace

Ethiopian Sterilization Claim: Haaretz alleged forced sterilization of Ethiopian women, later retracted as unsubstantiated.

October 7 Atrocity Stories: Haaretz debunked false "beheaded babies" claims but was accused of selective focus.

ZAKA Misconduct: Haaretz reported ZAKA’s unverified horror stories, criticized for undermining Israeli narratives without fabrication
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 3:31pm On Jun 27, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
They exist to dismantle the Jewish state even though the Jews came and met them there. Just listen to yourself 😂😂😂
Go read the charter of Hamas , which won elections in 2007 overwhelmingly.
And which makes Abu Mazen to not call for elections, because Hamas would win hands down.
You want me to quote the Original Hamas charter?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 3:26pm On Jun 27, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
So for failing to be wealthy, they deserve to lose their homes daily and be murdered at will?

I dont even want to imagine what you think the developed world should do to Africans.
Their priorities are upside down. They exist to dismantle the Jewish state. Jordan neighbour Israel, you don't hear them complaining.
Gaza is a basket case, where everything is donor funded
I gave you those countries for comparison. Smaller than Gaza but rank as first world .
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 3:16pm On Jun 27, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
@Basilico
And if Israel can keep their nukes because they haven't attacked anyone with them, then what do we do about USA?

And what has happened has happened. The Brits have imposed and empowered aliens on Palestine, and that's fine. Anyone seeking the expulsion of Jews from Israel is on a long thing. But that doesn't mean we have to support them as they seize lands and massacre innocent people at will. We will not support its reckless attacks on neighboring countries just because they are allies of the West. If they can agree to leave Palestinians alone and live peacefully with everyone, I'd become their fan.
This should answer you. Chatgpt.

Which countries are smaller than Gaza, independent and wealthy without oil?

The Gaza Strip has an area of approximately 363 square kilometers (140 square miles). To identify independent countries smaller than Gaza that are wealthy and not reliant on oil, I’ll use GDP per capita (PPP) as a measure of wealth, with a threshold above $40,000 to indicate high-income economies, and exclude countries where oil and gas contribute significantly to GDP (e.g., more than 20% of exports or economy). Below are the countries that meet these criteria, based on available data:

Singapore (647 sq km, GDP per capita ~$103,000): Smaller than Gaza in urban area (though total land is larger), Singapore is a global financial hub with negligible oil dependency, thriving on trade, technology, and services.

Malta (316 sq km, GDP per capita ~$48,000): An independent Mediterranean nation, Malta’s economy relies on tourism, financial services, and shipping, with no significant oil production.

Luxembourg (258 sq km, GDP per capita ~$131,000): A wealthy European microstate, Luxembourg’s economy is driven by finance, steel, and technology, not oil.

Liechtenstein (160 sq km, GDP per capita ~$197,000): This microstate thrives on banking, manufacturing, and low taxes, with no oil resources.

San Marino (61 sq km, GDP per capita ~$74,000): An independent enclave in Italy, San Marino’s wealth comes from tourism, banking, and manufacturing, not oil.

Andorra (468 sq km, GDP per capita ~$49,000): While slightly larger than Gaza, Andorra’s economy is based on tourism, retail, and banking, with no oil dependency.

Monaco (2 sq km, GDP per capita ~$240,000): A tiny, wealthy state, Monaco relies on tourism, real estate, and finance, with no oil production.
They only know how to.build tunnels and make rockets. Rely on aid for everything. They could be the french Riviera but they are just s hopelesd state crying about nakba.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:02pm On Jun 27, 2025
bemeruca:
Na their business.

Any immigration bill that does not make sense should be struck down
It's a crappy bill.
Romance › Re: Things Women Think About During Sex by basilico: 2:59pm On Jun 27, 2025
APOPTOSIS:
What about the ones that want to get pregnant for a category of men in order to establish ATM fo life.? I have encountered such before. In Fact, they go to 🗑 trashcan to pick up condoms when one is as sleep. Not the ritual angle of it
Lies. Raw abiding citizens do not need any trash cans. smiley wink
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:41pm On Jun 27, 2025
nateevs:
Do you think this is a good thing?
What's wrong with your problem?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:40pm On Jun 27, 2025
Today's journalism by CNN and Co exists to deceive , manipulate and negate every good thing from the Trump administration.

Five days before Fordow bombing Erin Bunnet
stated on CNN that Iran was years away from developing a nuclear weapon and suggested that military actions, such as those pushed by then-President-elect Donald Trump, risked escalating into a world war without sufficient justification.

Days after the bombing Erin Bunnet
shifted her stance, noting that the U.S. strikes had only set back Iran's nuclear program by a few months, describing this as a significant development
. Here she was aligning with the leaked CNN report . FBI is investigating who leaked ,an arrest is expected.

The WH has called out the report ,with IAEA and IDF pointing out that the damage was massive.Satellite images after the bombing show twelve craters above Fordow’s underground enrichment halls, with precise targeting of ventilation and centrifuge areas indicating significant damage to the facility’s operations.

Trump might sue CNN
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:29pm On Jun 27, 2025
Raumdeuter bemeruca

Get into Uber or Taxi business.

U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 875, the Jeremy and Angel Seay and Sergeant Brandon Mendoza Protect Our Communities from DUIs Act of 2025, on June 26, 2025, with a vote of 246-160.. All 160 votes against were from Democrats. This bill, introduced by Rep. Barry Moore, amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to make noncitizens convicted of or admitting to driving while intoxicated or impaired deportable and inadmissible, regardless of whether the offense is a misdemeanor or felony. It has not yet been passed by the Senate or signed into law

This bill is not in good state. Affects green card holders it seems.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 1:10pm On Jun 27, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
The deal is good, but control of Iran remains their ultimate target. Look at what the Syrian jihadists are now getting away with. They've killed hundreds of Christians and Shiites but since they're puppets, you don't hear much cries from the West. So long as Iran doesn't become another gulf country, a nuke remains necessary for its survival. If they can't make one secretly, they must get some from North Korea and be ready to test it when the devil comes knocking again
Iran doesn't need a nuke. Israel is not attacking anyone at all with their nukes , and if they have to , it will be the Samson option. We go down but all those beautiful cities in Europe, those cities, it will be a shame if something happens to them. Europe rushed to protect Israel from Iranian missiles while learning their own lessons. Soon every nation will have hypersonic missiles.
Who needs a war in the middle east. Only Iran . Saudi and other countries embracing Abraham Accords know their clerics and extremists are the ones who are concerned about the existence of Israel as a Jewish nation in territory once ruled by Muslims. The leadership doesn't care as long as they are in power.
If theocrats in Iran lose power to secularists then immediate threat to Israel goes away. They were sponsoring any one who could fight Israel.
The world has largely moved on ,only extremists and clerics give a hoot about Israel, Jerusalem ,or Jews.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 12:52pm On Jun 27, 2025
LordAdam16:
All of that is for naught if they can't enrich uranium.

The US/Israel plan for Iran is terrible.
They have no intention of letting them prosper.
So they need a deterrent to keep the US/Israel on their best behavior even after sanctions are lifted.

The missile stockpile is a great primary deterrent.
But in the absence of a nuke (which we know they can't have if they seek economic prosperity in the near-term), they must at least have the ability to enrich nuclear material.
Call it the Japan compromise.

Japan does not have nukes.
But it can enrich nuclear material.
At any point Japan faces an existential threat, it will put together a nike within a short time while its conventional defense buys time.

Iran needs that.
Its scientists and generals have been assassinated within and outside its borders.
It has sacrificed too much to give up enrichment for any reason under the sun.

-Lord
Iran doesn't have Russia backing. Putin badly wants to get back on the SWIFT system remember.
He will gladly throw Iran under the bus if sanctions against Russia are lifted. By offering to take possession of their 950 pounds of their HEU and centrifuges while selling supplying them with 3 5% enriched uranium for their power generation. Which they dont need , they have too much gas and oil That would be what he will offer to the west in addition to a ceasefire with Ukraine.Charity begins at home.

Mark my words.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:42pm On Jun 27, 2025
Obrigardo:
Hey guys I think i needed to shine a light on this because I thought this was an automatic thing but it seems a human is behind it.
This was UFOs response to basilico. What could have warranted a ban for this?

I'm tired of it all 🤦🏽😠😡

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Ethiopian Sterilization Claim: Haaretz alleged forced sterilization of Ethiopian women, later retracted as unsubstantiated.

October 7 Atrocity Stories:
Haaretz debunked false "beheaded babies" claims but was accused of selective focus.

ZAKA Misconduct: Haaretz reported ZAKA’s unverified horror stories, criticized for undermining Israeli narratives without fabrication

In October 2024, Haaretz faced significant blowback after its publisher, Amos Schocken, referred to “Palestinian freedom fighters” while criticizing Israel’s government for imposing an “apartheid regime

Self-Correction: Haaretz has a history of issuing corrections, as seen in the Ethiopian sterilization case, which demonstrates accountability, though critics argue retractions often come too late after damage is done .
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 9:15am On Jun 27, 2025
dermmy:
Coupled with the fact that Jordan and European allies were helping Israel to inteclrcept them o. Yet these missiles still hit hard. Israel would have been flattened completely if left alone with Iran.
They would have dropped their nuclear bomb on Iran had that happened.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:12am On Jun 27, 2025
Peace in the horizon. Trump and Netanyahu neutering Iran ambition, bringing Syria on board. A proposal for Gaza being worked out ....

♦ “Gaza hostilities will conclude within two weeks.”
♦ “Four Arab nations (including Egypt and the UAE) will administer the Gaza Strip, replacing the murderous Hamas terrorist organization.”
♦ “The remaining Hamas leadership will face exile to other countries (possibly Qatar and Turkey), while the hostages gain freedom.”
♦ “Multiple nations globally will accept numerous Gaza inhabitants seeking emigration.”
♦ “Abraham Accords expansion will bring Syria, Saudi Arabia, and additional Arab and Muslim countries to recognize Israel and establish official relationships.”
♦ “Israel will declare its willingness for future Palestinian conflict resolution under the ‘two states’ concept, contingent upon the Palestinian Authority reforms.”
♦ “The United States will acknowledge limited Israeli sovereignty implementation in Judea and Samaria.”


PLA will have to reform, they don't have any leverage to demand
_Right of return
_ East Jerusalem as it's capital.
The west has been pushing for a contiguous Gaza and Judea &Samaria Meaning a land mass carving up Israel connecting the two enclaves. This won't happen.
Saudi and every other Middle East country are secretly happy with the threat of Iran bomb removed, I bet they are willing to throw Palestinians under the bus.
Trump was visibly angry at Israel for violation of the Iran ceasefire because it would derail the expansion of the Abraham Accords.
I don't think ( my opinion) Saudia and other nations have any problem with Israel having nuclear bombs,it has shown it doesn't need them to crush any army and will never use it unless threatened with extinction. Most of the Arab countries don't see a future with oil ,they are divesting their economies being heavily reliant on Western FDI in real estate , trade and tourism. Western companies have been having a larger share in mega projects within the ME than the Chinese.
Foreign Affairs › Re: World News! Events Happening Around The World by basilico: 8:10am On Jun 27, 2025
Peace in the horizon. Trump and Netanyahu neutering Iran ambition, bringing Syria on board. A proposal for Gaza being worked out ....

♦ “Gaza hostilities will conclude within two weeks.”
♦ “Four Arab nations (including Egypt and the UAE) will administer the Gaza Strip, replacing the murderous Hamas terrorist organization.”
♦ “The remaining Hamas leadership will face exile to other countries (possibly Qatar and Turkey), while the hostages gain freedom.”
♦ “Multiple nations globally will accept numerous Gaza inhabitants seeking emigration.”
♦ “Abraham Accords expansion will bring Syria, Saudi Arabia, and additional Arab and Muslim countries to recognize Israel and establish official relationships.”
♦ “Israel will declare its willingness for future Palestinian conflict resolution under the ‘two states’ concept, contingent upon the Palestinian Authority reforms.”
♦ “The United States will acknowledge limited Israeli sovereignty implementation in Judea and Samaria.”


Note: Judea & Samaria not West Bank.

PLA will have to reform, they don't have any leverage to demand
_Right of return
_ East Jerusalem as it's capital.
The west has been pushing for a contiguous Gaza and Judea &Samaria Meaning a land mass carving up Israel connecting the two enclaves. This won't happen.
Saudi and every other Middle East country are secretly happy with the threat of Iran bomb removed, I bet they are willing to throw Palestinians under the bus.
Trump was visibly angry at Israel for violation of the Iran ceasefire because it would derail the expansion of the Abraham Accords.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:58am On Jun 27, 2025
EnlightenedUFO:
No character limit again?
Tel Aviv billboard. They are thanking Trump.

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