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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:48pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
I promise you no one is looking to you as a good judge of what a reliable source of information is.

Even the people in your camp, would fail a lie detector test if they claimed that you know what a reliable source of information is.

You can absolutely take that to the bank. I’d bet a kidney on that fact.
Let's do a quick test.
According to the judge only bureacrats should have access to IRS data The judge had blocked the political appointees Secretary of Treasury from having access to the data . DOGE us blocked for now.

Question.Is this judgement reasonable? What do the correct sources say?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:47pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
They are reliable on most matters except Trump should’ve been your clue that maybe your mind and brain has been hi jacked by a cult.
I should reemphasise . They are reliable on mundane non political matters . When it comes to politics they know their target audience is too dumbed down to question whatever BS they are pushing.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:31pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
Mention me if you are referring to me please

I don't do corner, corner.

Leaving people alone to their delusions is a necessary skill to save ones time and headache, that's why you don't see me engaging Basil the bot.
I saw right through you I doubt your knowledge of economics. I've asked your opinions several times politely.
Forex trade and Investments you are OK. Other matters economy,don't see any substance from you .General knowledge and politics. Zero.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:23pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
I will read articles here and there to extract truth especially for people who trust those news sources but we should never lose sight of the larger game at play. The AP received over $52m from USAID to push liberal agenda.

That means they can NEVER be reasonable concerning this DOGE, Treasury, social security benefits discussion. The person who pays the piper dictates the tune.
From day one here , I've spoken out against MSM in general. I think it's just above 10 years now. I got fed up of the MSM two three years before the rise of ISIS, I doubt I have ever had a kind word for most of the progressive media since then. They just push propaganda.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:51pm On Feb 19, 2025
PDPGuy:
Yes oh. I’m holding tight!

I’m even also hearing that the housing market in the DMV is reeling in anticipation of the tens of thousands of federal employees/contractors that would soon be laid off, because most of them may struggle to pay their mortgages/rent.

As you may know, most American workers are 2-3 paychecks away from homelessness, so don’t be surprised to see an uptick in rent/mortgage delinquencies in the coming months; unless Congress approves a CR that would actually pay the laid off federal employees from March through September
Were they given buyout but refused, there are last I checked over 75000 who have accepted.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:48pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
People that were wrong about everything concerning COVID-19 want to come back to the table to play miserable skeptic to the people who were right about everything. Yet same fools have gone right back to quoting the same news sources that lied to them.

Don't forget "Safe" and "effective" is not one lie but two. Hehehehehehe.
State AGs 17 of them are looking at statutes where they can charge Fauci since he got a federal pardon.
Dr Death will die miserably.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:44pm On Feb 19, 2025
Android17:
You started by entertaining AP as a news source even though they are one of those who received USAID funds to push lies. This is like Biden saying "the FBI/CIA have ruled the laptop as showing all signs of a Russian disinformation campaign" by quoting Politico that were getting the same government patronage.

And you also did not even read the article. The caption and contents are at variance. The article says Trump & Elon may have exaggerated the number of dead/ineligible people who received the benefits.

Think of it. That is pure sophistry. It is not denying the claims but instead downplaying the impact. That's (D)ownplayingism - what Democrats do for their faves.

People really need to understand what the data they are looking at is actually portraying. There is no way of verifying that the person on the receiving end was the individual who qualified for those social security benefits. The verification processes, where available, are very lax. On the treasury's side, Elon said every single disbursement was approved by the treasury with zero proof of following any verification process.

Also, the lie about the system rejecting any D-O-Bs beyond anyone aged 115, is Julius Agwu Crack your Ribs material. Again, the system approved every single payment and there was no verification process before or after disbursements.
AP is a news organizations that supports progressive causes. On most matters they are reliable , when it comes to Trump or republicans they push lies whenever possible. I will occasionally glance through AP news and Politico with an open mind
For the figures released by Elon ,I will.go with them, that looks like some data extracted from a database. Snopes and other fact checkers work in tandem. One reports possibilities them others state it as a factual matter. Media reporting repeats the story as the truth validating each other.
It's more easier to defraud when you have a very dirty database. With every approval granted by Treasury staff , someone must have sent benefits to accounts in Panama.
I have not a single figure released about SS benefits so far.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:28pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
Abortion ≠ IVF.

Take your meds pls or don’t talk about what you don’t know
You have not suggested Trump or project2025 would ban IVF?
If you sure you've never I'll apologize .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:16pm On Feb 19, 2025
IjeBos:
It is not correct.
You got fooled again.
You are low IQ to get repeatedly fooled by stats that look nonsensical.
Payments are automatically not even made to people older than 115.
Garbage in, Garbage out.
https://apnews.com/article/social-security-payments-deceased-false-claims-doge-ed2885f5769f368853ac3615b4852cf7
Who said payments have been made to anyone not deserving?
The crux of the matter is that there are people who are not listed as dead but could be dead all the same including those from 1-120 years of age.
When you have a mess of such a database,it's easy for a dirty player to make fraudulent payments. Last I checked noone has claimed payments have been made.

I looked up a word I see "mea culpa". How do I use it here to make me look learned? Create a Latin thread and take your foolishness there.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Budaatum.
JD Vance is not correct here. Pakistan is an islamist country and has nuclear warheads..
Burr we all know what he meant , even though he is not correct.
The UK elites would by now be screaming he be banned from. Twitter, FB, Google search everywhere were it not for Nov 7.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:33pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
I don't know what you are talking about and I'm not arguing anything with you. Come end of year, Elon must deliver savings from 20m fraudsters that he has expunged from the system, end of.
Stop listening to the enemedia Hear it from the horse's mouth in an interview with Sean Hannity.Trump and Elon.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6369030618112
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:11pm On Feb 19, 2025
Ibime:
It's actually been proven wrong and even published by the DSS last year. I'm telling you my first instincts as a finance person cos I deal with stuff like this daily. If your first instinct was to believe him, then you are a low IQ person.

He knows it was wrong and could have quickly checked why it was such, but his brief is not to do the right thing, it's more expedient for him to win votes by lying, hence he published something that was blatantly false.

And since he has published, he must deliver the savings his lie suggests.
This is not correct . Those not listed as dead?

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:47pm On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
They want a dictator. They’ve always wanted that. Remember they cheered him on when he said he was going to be a dictator from day one.

After he said that with his own mouth, anyone who repeated it was called a fear monger . Like his own word do not have any credibility.
Trump said he would a dictator from day one.
That's why he is obeying ridiculous court orders by Obama, Clinton and Biden judges
Loosely , a dictator according to me is one who has his will and way every time. Who is not challenged by anyone.
The definition has been rewritten.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:22pm On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
Russia is a threat to Europe that's a fact. Do they want to invade NATO Countries? No but they sure want to keep their nukes pointed at them.
Russia is a loud mouth. Their military can't overun Europe.. at least against any military that has anti radar missiles. Their s-300,s-400 and s-500 are crap.Without an effective anti-aircraft shield their army is just a sitting duck waiting to be annihilated like
Saddams army.
Russia strength is in their nuclear missiles,land,sea and air based . No way you prevent them from bombing any country on earth.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
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Ibime:
The DOGE thing is just political opportunism and sensationalism to make political capital out of the norms of US spending for decades. Most of it is sensationalism to win voters just like Elon shouting about 130 year old people on National database

To make you think Democrats are stealing money and win your vote eternally

At the end of the year, we would just judge the growth or decline in deficit, National spending and Social Security spending to judge the truth or otherwise of the matter

Men lie, women lie, numbers dont
This didn't happen?
DOGE this month uncovered the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) distribution of $59 million to luxury New York City hotels to house illegal migrants. This led to a clawback order from the Department of Homeland Security and the firing of four top FEMA financial officials

I'm supposed to believe you and not this House Committee .
After I do that , O ye all knowing, should I DM you for further instructions on what to believe ?

Don't take us for fools.

Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 1:23pm On Feb 19, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Noise!!!! USA is not like Nigeria where ghost workers are paid.
They also have 2 Trillion illegal aliens who vote.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 1:08pm On Feb 19, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡Reporter: “Would you support Zelensky ceding territory or exchanging territory at any agreement to end war?”

Trump: “Well, he's gonna have to do what he has to do, but, you know, his poll numbers aren't particularly great, to put it mildly.”

“He's got a country where, you know, it's been savaged and attacked, and, he's got an army that's been very, very brave, actually, despite the fact that, you know, we've given him, in my opinion, $350,000,000,000. That's what the real number is. You don't hear that number. And Europe has given, in my opinion, a hundred billion dollars, and they've done it in the form of a loan.


And I have a secretary of treasury right now who's actually quite brave. He's over in Ukraine on a train, and there's a lot of things happening around that train that aren't so good.

And he's going there to get a document done where we're gonna be in assured that we're gonna, in some form, get this money back because we're putting up far more money than Europe, and Europe is in far more danger than we are.

We have an ocean in between. Europe has nothing in between. You know what they have in between? They have Ukraine in between.


So as you know, Europe is putting up money and they're getting it in the form of a loan. And The United States under Biden didn't do loans. They just handed money every time somebody walked in from Ukraine. They just handed them money, foolishly. This should have never happened.

It should have never started. And once it did, other things should have happened. Other things should have taken place. Like that's So, we're we're getting, security on our money. We're gonna have it secured by they have, Rare Earths, and they have, oil and gas, and they have a lot of other things.

And we're asking for security for our money.”
Trump is throwing Zelensky under the bus Wants election so does Putin Trump wants the money back. $350 Billion . Zelensky says he got $70 billion . What happened to the other $280 billion.
Was it kicked back to Washington DC politicians, MIC and deep state actors? I think so. Trump literally has no time for Zelensky. I have not heard so much squealing from Democrats and RINOs like Lindsey Graham. In conclusion Trump knows something about that money that we don't. ........
$350,000,000,000. That's what the real number is. You don't hear that number. And Europe has given, in my opinion, a hundred billion dollars, and they've done it in the form of a loan.

In the first impeachment Trump was accused of plotting to investigate his opponent. Zelensky would have said there was corruption he didn't. He would have handed over any evidence of corruption if Hunter and Joe to Trump and Adam Schiff. The FBI also knew about the corruption. They all threw him under the bus.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Obrigardo:
Majority as in Mandate?
Don't be stupid, post election data showed the rapist trump doesn't have the mandate. Lowest popular vote count at 1.3%.

Now tell me otherwise, show me your data, you rot and piss maga cultist.
On X someone is accusing Trump of being a liar.
Trump promised they would get tired of winning once he is elected.
The X user is not yet tired of winning and he wont ,which means Trump was lying.
Have a good day .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Livelystone01:
Now the question is, why are the so-called enlightened westerners still believing the nonsense being sold to them that Russia wants to take over Europe?

If that's not a certificate of being brainwashed I don't know what that is.
Distraction Focus the people's energies elsewhere as you continue grabbing more power from them.The ordinary person doesn't care if Ukraine wants to join NATO. The leaders are the ones who are sending arms to test their latest weapons.
I think Russia is just an overated military force minus the nuclear bombs. Their air defence has been pierced so many times. In Syria, Iraq Kuwait, Iran, Russia. Russia has failed to smash Ukraine despite being neighbors.Russia would take severe casualties if they tried UK, France Germany or Italy.

Europe leaders must be making money off Zelensky They send money, Kiev routes some of it private offshore accounts in Lichtenstein, Cayman, Jersey etc
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:39am On Feb 19, 2025
AP is whining after being locked out of the Oval office and Air Force One because they are still using Gulf of Mexico.

They have been caught lying about DOGE.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2025/02/18/nolte-disgraced-ap-caught-lying-about-doge-then-stealth-edits-fake-story/

Sooner rather than later these media houses should be banned.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:18am On Feb 19, 2025
grandstar:
It seems very enticing I must admit but doing so won't end well.

It would balloon the budget deficit and add lots of money to the national debt.

Let this be used to reduce the size of the budget deficit.instead.
It would push the prices of everything beyond the roof.

If govt gets into giving students loans for school fees , universities definitely hike fees. You think so?

Inflation = Too much money chasing too few goods.

Zimbabwe inflation. To buy bread before introducing 100 trillion note one needed a wheelbarrow.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:11am On Feb 19, 2025
PDPGuy:
Not saying that there is no fraud going on with SS payments. But the images provide an explanation as to why there are “150 year old” people on SS..
Good explanation. There should be noone more than 150 years old .
How does COBOL then have more people 390 million than the population of 340 million.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
PDPGuy:
So from $8,000 it now down to $5,000.

Either way, the plan still needs Congressional approval. Besides, if the $2 trillion target isn’t met, it would be more likely that taxpayers would receive less than $2k in stimulus payments.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-doge-checks-00204813
Doesn't matter how much. Everyone can eat an egg daily for 33 years,. The mportance of egg prices dropping is more than slashing funds that were meant for the Azov battalion.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 9:21am On Feb 19, 2025
EU and Joe Biden are either stupid or they want to improverish their population.
They provoke Russia into a war ,blow up their pipeline and sanction Russia hoping to get Putin out of power .
Putin needs money to fund his war He sells oil at a discounted price to China and India.
China and India suddenly start exporting oil to Europe at s much higher price.
EU is stupid. China industries are now powered with cheap Russian energy. EU countries cannot compete with Chinese products as a result.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:09am On Feb 19, 2025
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:52am On Feb 19, 2025
Ijebos and cococandy
Quickly . Decline this offer of $5000 checks from DOGE savings.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/02/18/musk-mulls-sending-all-americans-5000-checks-using-doge-savings/

At $4.95 for Grade A eggs with $5,000, you could buy approximately 12,120 eggs in 2025. Eat one egg per day for 33 years

grandstar. DOGE to the rescue.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:44am On Feb 19, 2025
basilico:
FEMA funds allocations.

Culled from
https://www.fema.gov/grants/preparedness/shelter-services-program/fy24-awards

Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
Notable FEMA SSP grants of $10 million + allocated to NGO's & local govs for migrant services in FY'2024:

Catholic Charities of San Diego - $21,598,261
Catholic Charities of San Diego again - $19,592,554
Catholic Charities of San Antonio- $16,926,129
Catholic Charities of S.A. again - $10,877,226
City of Los Angeles - $21,844,670
Commonwealth of Massachusetts - $15,408,787
Save the Children (Fairfield County, CT) - $15,946,955
Border Servant Corps, Inc. (NM) - $15,125,447
Jewish Family Service San Diego- $22,077,365
Mission: Border Hope (Eagle Pass, TX) - $12,000,000
El Paso County (TX) - $16,690,172
New York City - $38,864,884
New York City again - $22,169,838
New York City again - $20,437,241.07
State of Arizona - $19,256,041
Pima County, AZ - $21,827,581
Pima County, AZ again - $18,706,639
Maricopa County, AZ - $11,606,329
San Diego County - $19,592,554
City of Atlanta - $10,819,662
City/County of Denver- $12,670,592
City of Chicago - $12,288,565

Roughly $641 million of FEMA taxpayer funds were allocated to NGOs and local governments in FY'2024 as part of FEMAs Shelter & Services Program (SSP).
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DOGE should not investigate FEMA?
Aa expected. Money taps running dry.

Catholic bishops sued the Trump administration on Tuesday over its abrupt halt to funding of refugee resettlement, calling the action unlawful and harmful to newly arrived refugees and to the nation’s largest private resettlement program.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops says the administration, by withholding millions even for reimbursements of costs incurred before the sudden cut-off of funding, violates various laws as well as the constitutional provision giving the power of the purse to Congress, which already approved the funding.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:28am On Feb 19, 2025
grandstar:
What you're saying makes no sense.

American farmers are compensated for the chickens they cull. As at January 22, 2025, $1.46bn has been paid out as compensation. Farmers are always compensated.

Let's even forget chickens. Trump with his own words said he would start bringing down prices from day one. That is what he said and the opposite is happening!

There's no way prices of food won't keep rising due to absence of farm workers who skip work to prevent being deported. Crops are rottening on the farms. 42% are farm hands in the US are undocumented.

In addition, how can prices fall when you want to slap tariffs on imports? Will the duties not be added to the price? He lied that's its the exporters that patd the price.

I won't argue with you.

Note down these 4 things:

1. Inflation in the US is going to rise.
2. Job losses will commence by the third quarter
3. By the fourth quarter at the most, a downturn in the economy would have commenced.
4. Mass protests against Trump in all 50 states would begin in earnest by the fourth quarter at worst.
6. It would be a miracle if Trump lasts more than 2 years in office. He will be impeached. He would definitely be impeached.
Are you not worried about curbing waste. You want him to treat greying hair instead of first treating the migraine.
Labour shortage causes inflation . That would be a Trump university teaching smiley smiley
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:17am On Feb 19, 2025
cococandy:
Take your meds pls 🤣
On another topic , you have been saying Trump wants to ban IVF while in reality he wants Americans to have more babies

'PROMISES KEPT': The order expands access to in vitro fertilization (ivf) and other fertility treatments through the reduction of out-of-pocket costs as ivf has become unaffordable for many Americans.


As I said earlier Hope you have the mental strength when reality about Trump hits you

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:50am On Feb 19, 2025
A hit piece from the progressive newrepublic.com.

Keep them coming.



cococandy:
Right. Except that in this your imaginary techtopia that you’re salivating about, you would probably be used as biofuel. Because according to the man who your idols seem to be influenced by, that’s what unproductive people are good for. You’re not even a half decent yahoo boy. I don’t know how much coding you can learn to make yourself useful to them. Don’t get too excited.


Look at the depraved mindsets of the people your idols associate and want to model the society after
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:52am On Feb 19, 2025
bemeruca:
Elon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUr-5PYA7s
Impressive. He need to achieve another first though
As Elon Musk's new Department of Government Efficiency works to reduce government spending by eliminating waste and cutting diversity programs, his SpaceX corporation currently has a multibillion dollar contract to help NASA land the first woman and first person of color on the moon.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:47am On Feb 19, 2025
IjeBos:
For a supposed Chemist you post some crazy anti science stuff.
Doubting the bird flu is some nutty sh*t.
It's possible it was released deliberately or by a lab error.
I also think Dr Faucci had something to do with HIV. How did it jump from some congo monkeys to human. Then predominantly found in black ghettos, among drug addicts and homosexuals.

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