Obrigardo: So what the fùcking hell you guys dicks are erect with this doozy of an expose? Don't you think you making a fool of yourself by not being objective and fair to President Biden as he did nothing wrong when he was a candidate? You close your eyes to criminal trumps censor parade, like it doesn't matter that he met with Russians to spread opp disinfo and tried to quash negative stories about him, EVEN as he was president?
IjeBos: I think you're missing the point of the Presidential Bully Pulpit. Whatever the President says has incredible power. That's why most US President's stick to a written script or are very careful with there chosen words. He should not have been on a podium jawboning about something he knew nothing about. A lot of people took his words as a SUGGETION of something they should try. And some people did try it.
CoolUsername: You still haven't shown where he told people drink bleach.
How is him clarifying his statement after a follow up from a reporter damage control? It was during the same briefing. There was literally no damage to control.
Basic research.
I repeat . Trump told nobody to drink bleach. He made a request to Dr Fauci to come up with a bleach formula to wipe out covid, inject it whatever Get rid of covid.
saxywale2: Did Trump Suggest Injecting Disinfectant Could Be COVID-19 Treatment? Correct attribution.
Some MAGAt interpreted it at just that and started injesting the substance.
He never He asked Dr Fauci and Birx whether they would come up with a disinfectant that would clear the virus that Fauci financed. It was evident that bleach would clear the virus from door knobs etc, Media ran away with the claim that consumes you
IjeBos: Listen, Hunter Biden went to Yale Law School. The top Law School in the US, and probably the World. Their graduates are sought after in any industry. He could have done anything he wanted, Clerk for a justice, made Partner at a Wall Street Law Firm, went into consulting at a place like McKensie or Bain, worked in Finance (i-Banking or Private Equity). Any career choice he made he would have done very very well. Esp. with his contacts. And FYI, you may not understand this, but at a certain level your contacts are what matter. Look up Blake Masters and tell me how he made his money. He has a JD but is running Thiel Capitol.
His surname took him to Yale. Only. Nothing between his ears.
wirinet: The only crimes you can pin on Hunter according to the so called laptop from hell is failing to pay tax and failing to register as a foreign agent. Acting as an agent to foreign companies is common all over the world and is not considered a crime.
Then what crimes are you accusing Biden of.
I wont let this one pass. Huntter (sp) wasa getting cash from foreigners. He was footing the family bills . Tell me who gets paid 83K a month by Burisma a Ukraine energy company that he has never been to, has no experience in the oil industry and the damn payments are all over his laptop from hell. When Trump asks the comedian to investigate if there was corruption involved, Pelosi impeaches him despite FBJ saying he had the prosecutor fired for investigating Burisma Hunter was wired 3.5m by mayor of Moscow. Hunter recieved 30m from China in an influence peddling thing. Banks flagged 150 transactions to Hunter over possible money laundering schemes. Only 2 of these Suspicious Activity Reports have been seen by congress
saxywale2: Twitter policies at that time prohibited “directly distribut(ing) content obtained through hacking that contains private information”. Twitter’s policy against posting hacked material was established in 2018, 2 years before the leak. Many posters account were locked as a result. Alot of SM companies weren't also sure if it was also Russian disinformation given the time the leaks were released. They erred on the side of caution.
She was given an opportunity to delete to restore access to her account but refused.
Twitter knew it was not hacked material. Twitter with other big tech killed the story
wirinet: Elon Musk big reveal is another Kraken. It did not reveal anything malicious on the part of twitter staffs nor reveal collusion with the democratic party. It only revealed intelligence agencies along with major social media organisations like Facebook and twitter were being cautious so close to election day. They want to avoid a repeat of 2015 elections where FBI came out to announce investigation against Hillary and a few days later said it was nothing. Hillary and the democratic party that that announcement tipped the election in favour of Trump.
Also Trump and the democratic party were desperately trying to repeat the scenario by looking for any announcement that would damage Joe Bidens image very close to elections, they had earlier tried to quid quote pro Zelensky into announcing an investigation against Hunter and Joe Biden which failed and led to Trump's impeachment. So it's reasonable to be cautious of a laptop suddenly appearing just weeks to the elections.
I see the incoming Republican led house wasting lots of time on the laptop as they are still pained from loosing to Biden. It will still amount to to huge kraken.
The campaign looks for dirt on opponents. Hillary used the Intelligence community to paint Trump as a Russia stooge, which the media ran out with and they all knew it was a lie. Hunter Biden laptop was real, he was getting cash from foreign countries and giving 10% to the big guy. This guy is compromised and he is acting for Xi Jinpin. Tell me one action. one action only that he has supported that dont favor China man,
the bolded. she didn't get you... so I don't want to waste my time.
He tries to be polite nowadays though he has to question whether you live in Murica whenever he hits a brick wall. The fake lawyer lets leave it at that. Anyway I dont like discussing people.
1stGenAmerican: You didn’t chase out anyone. You aren’t grand at all, get over yourself.
Tesla owner ? We chased him out ... He is still in a boat heading to Abuja. Must be using Starlink on a different moniker. Benalvino Tell this dumb ass
benalvino3: But Obrigardo cannot have an intelligent conversation. He has to be intelligent first.
He can be redeemed. We chased out the Tesla owner but he is still arguing his case sort of sensibly ..although he thinks you not in Murica ya know nothing. He is still here. Obrifaggot might be too far gone.
tamudabu: They spent far too much time together doing whatever it is that they did, bas. That is the problem.
Dump is a public figure, someone chameleons would pray to get photo with not to talk of record the conversation. Some chameleons are toxic enough that they would even accept payment to bring other chameleons close to him, some who might do him damage, and as you've said, this is common enough knowledge for you to know so dump sure must know, no?
Should dump not know he should protect himself from chameleons, bas? And do you think dump protected himself from chameleons or not in this Ye instance?
Would you have dinner with Iranians. They chant death to America and Israel every Friday. Ye only made a comment and now noone should have a meeting with him? There are a lot of antisemitic people eg the Democrat darling Ilhan Omar. She has said worse things than Ye
tamudabu: If it is true that "Some people are toxic all the same and are like chameleons who can turn against you any minute", don't you think dump should have thought so too, and as soon as Ye broke what was agreed by bringing company to a private meeting, which could be Ye being chameleonic, shouldn't dump have cancelled or at least cut to 'hello, how are you, let's reschedule'?
I don't need media to tell me to independently think that America can not possibly be well ruled by someone who independently sees much less than basilico, because you've been here long enough to have seen that we have a lot more against dump than "mean tweets".
And I am impressed at your superability to cover your eyes and make out that if you don't look it never happened or its media lying to you when it's you lying to yourself bas.
tamudabu: Bet dump knows Ye a lot better now and would turn down dinner with him now.
Then again, perhaps he mightn't. Dump's not exactly known to reflect.
The issue was a business meeting. After Ye was cancelled. Some people are toxic all the same and are like chameleons who can turn against you any minute. The whole issue is framed against Trump meeting Ye who came accompanied by an unsavoury character. Cut some slack. Media will always use anything Trump does to attack him , I dont let their opinions (formely news) shape my thinking . I do my own independent thinking Of course sometimes I am wrong I do not hold the monopoly of knowledge. All I know is that the whole establishment is against Trump running and will lie and do anything to prevent that. Maybe you can tell me why... His mean tweets?
adamusuleiman11: Bannon says Kanye & Fuentes visit to Mar-a-Lago was a “trolling operation” to “insult Trump, to put Trump in his place, to make Trump look more irrelevant .. The staff should know that, should be on top of that - should be doing interventions to make sure this doesn’t happen.”
Kanye West is well known to Trump There is no way Trump would turn down dinner with him. Oval Office photo
IjeBos: That is FBI process. They mark/document where they got the evidence from initially. So they probably opened the drawer and took a picture of the drawer with the documents there first. Then they took all the responsive documents they found in a particular location(room etc) and put them together to mark what room/place they came from. So, the FBI agents who did the search spread them out like that on the floor to document that all those documents came from that particular room. And I believe the FBI agents didn't even have the necessary clearances to even open the folders or review the documents with those markings. So, they just gathered them photographed them and put them in boxes without reading them. Trump has had the ability to say under oath that the FBI planted documents. He didn't, even when pressed by the Special Master. It's easier for Trump to lie in public than court. There are criminal penalties for lying in court.
Why not go to the FBI offices , place them on table and leak the photos to the media. The impression created was that the documents were on the floor in an unsecured room as you believe. In reality FBI/DOJ had visited the storage room and adviced on adding a second lock . Again what documents had been declassified. All those markings you posted had been declassified by him. As the final declass authority he did not need the FBI to tell him what not to declassify . I am assuming the jackboots who came for the documents had clearance... Did they have clearance. Currently they are refusing to release the search warrant to Trump defense . The FBI also does not want the Special Master to see about a 100 documents....I think its documents on Spygate that they dont want the Special master to see because they show how FBI is irreedemably corrupt. No wonder they had to hire a Special Counsel .. We shall be back to this topic in 2024 During the search they asked for cctv to be turned off and refused to let Trumps lawyer witness the search. Just thugs who even peered in Melania closet looking for documents without Trumps lawyer present. Again they got a very urgent search warrant on a Friday but went on a Monday.
Also look at the picture of the documents that they retrieved. Below is a list of what the markings on the documents mean - SI = Special Intelligence (intelligence from intercepted communications) - G = GAMMA (sensitive communication intercepts) - NOFORN = No Foreign Nationals - ORCON = Originator Controlled - HCS = HUMINT Control System (intelligence from human sources) - HCS-O = HCS Operations (HUMINT operations and methods) - HCS-P = HCS Product (HUMINT intelligence reports) - TK = TALENT-KEYHOLE (intelligence from satellite collection) - TS = Top Secret (release would cause exceptionally grave damage to national security) - SAP = Special Access Program (non-intelligence equivalent of SCI) - NF = NOFORN (see above) - OC = ORCON (see above) - FRD = Formerly Restricted Data (about nuclear weapons) - NATO = Releasable to NATO partners - S = Secret (release would cause serious damage to national security) - C = Confidential (release would cause damage to national security)
What is insane is that he had those documents sitting in an unsecured room at his hotel/club house. Again, you don't have to take my word for any of this. Look at the picture of the documents the FBI took that the DOJ submitted to the court by signed declaration under penalty of perjury and put all the words you see in google.
Thats a good response. I will cross check though. As for documents on the floor I highly doubt he would have placed those docs on the floor just weeks before the FBI had visited Mar a Lago, inspected the room and recommended to add a second lock which was done to secure the room.
FYI, The first Amendment tells us what the GOVERNMENT can't do. Non government companies can censor. They can run their business the way they want. The same is true on Nairaland (which regularly bans people), I'm sure even your favorite alt-right site bans people for saying certain things. A lot of it has to do with liability. And if Congress does repeal sect. 230, you'll see much much more of it as companies will then be held liable for the speech they allow on their platforms. Goodbye to all the right wing false information you read.
Also. Even the 1st amendment isn't absolute. There are circumstances when the Government can limit speech. Check out Brandenburg v. Ohio (it's a US Supreme Court Case). It argues that even the government can limit speech if 1.) The speech is “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action,” AND 2.) The speech is “likely to incite or produce such action.”
Doesn't it sux when your 5 second sound bite, meets actual facts.
Nothing with freedom of speech. Media makes up lies about Trump. Were they not looking for docs on Nuclear Weapons during the raid?
Biden admin orders gig workers payments via Paypal, Zello etc over $600 must be declared. Remember he hired 87000 IRS agents in his Inflation Reduction Bill. Agents who carry firearms and are ready to use deadly force. Time to everyone to pay their fair share.
IjeBos: Actually it is. The Secret Services job is to prevent threats to their protectees. And the only reason they know who is a threat is to know about that person. If that means filtering Youtube videos, they will filter Youtube videos. But at this point they probably already have a profile on him. They most likely told him who he was and he didn't care. Just like he didn't care that his supporters had weapons during Jan. 6th. Because they aren't there to hurt him.
But I understand to support a person like Trump you have to be or pretend to be Blind, Deaf and Dumb. You are doing a good job at that.
Your hatred of Trump. Making assumptions. I dont belive everything I read from media about Trump because I know they make stuff up. See how they are melting down over losing twitter censorship.
IjeBos: I assume you've never voted in the US, nor understand the arcane state by state/county by county voting rules. This was caught by an election audit that most counties have to test the machines and voting process. And because the race was so close, they will probably have another recount. Your argument is that, because we had a Human error (not identifying a memory card in time), let's do a hand count to introduce more human error. And a hand count which would probably take 2 weeks or more to complete. There in itself lies the problem. Republicans like the confusion of voting, it helps them make the case that voting is hard to help depress the vote. The more people who Vote means Republicans will lose. The long lines you see are a product of Republicans limiting voting places and voting times to depress the vote. The length of counting votes, is the Republicans limiting when certain votes can be counted (i.e mail in votes) and how they are counted.
If you were truly interested in fair elections, you would have supported the Democrats Voting Rights Bill that standardized elections, and did things like making it illegal for people to stand in line to vote for more than 1 hour (in some Black counties in Republican led states people stand in line 6-8 hours to vote). So, as all things, Republicans purposefully break something but yet convince their uneducated base to blame the Democrats who always try to fix it.
It's amusing hearing Kari Lake talking about the length of the vote count, people waiting in line, etc when REPUBLICANS are the ones who ran the elections and made those rules in their attempt to disenfranchise Democratic votes. But what did Democrats do, they pushed their supporters to vote early and by mail where they could.
Yawn. Democrats play dirty. Take that to the bank.
feedthenation: ---How is it possible for an unknown person just appear from nowhere and have dinner with an ex president with all the round the clock security detail vetting who can have access to Donald Trump let alone a private dinner---
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:09pm On Dec 04, 2022
