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benalvino3,zendi,ramdeuter,ono et al

Be watching this guy Mark Dice youtube channel. He is hilarious. He pokes fun at the absurdity of the left.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1eOhCSHano

benalvino3:
is it recent episode?

the pro-abortion side is almost always inhumane

Should be about two years ago. But you can see the leftist mindset.

Abortion is an act of love. Ban on abortion makes it extremely dangerous to be pregnant in Texas.

Abortion provider: “Abortion is a blessing, abortion is an act of love, abortion is freedom.” pic.twitter.com/vRLX0GfVwl

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) September 30, 2021

Another woman believes that life begins after birth and condones an abortion just before birth. Im very sure she is a democrat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR5OSrrBq_Y

Timiofak:
If you have never read about FDR’s New deal promises I encourage you to do.

During the Great Depression he promised to put measures to stop a new recession, he promised to strike out 100 programs within his first 100 days in office which he did

Many of them were stricken down as unconstitutional by political hacks know as judges as we have them today

And example that wanted to be stricken down was the SSA

Now every American knows how important the SSA is 80 years after FDR brought it

Same as the FDIC

Because a set of political hacks claim an act is “unconstitutional” doesn’t mean it’s wrong; the constitution is 80 years old

Surely modern day policies might be unconstitutional.

Not all of us live in that banana republic America. What is your point?

Timiofak:
You are too old for this

What do you mean?

Ono, benalvino3, ramdeuter. disstroy, zendi et all

KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov details how Russia plotted to destabilase america decades ago .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

Take close note from 2:54 He lays it all . Programmed people who cannot see the truth even when it stares at them

Obrigardo best example. I wont mention others but they know themselves.

ono:
First thing is to appreciate that the forces at play and that we see with our physical eyes are basically what has been determined and approved in the spirit realms. The forces at play are different. One is superior to the other - the spiritual forces are much more powerful (harmful or beneficial) than the physical ones.

But I believe you also must know that the Devil rules in the affairs of men......albeit for a while. He is at play, the hand that plays the strings in essentially all of the world's government. The other day, I read that the WEF - World Economic Forum is run by some people who are hell-bent on imposing a new order on world affairs. I don't want to sound like what you lot call conspiracy theorist , but my point is that there are forces at play that our conventional laws and understanding really cannot match at all. Just like it has now been unveiled that we indeed have UFOs in the world and no one seems to care about that revelations.

If the world's law and conventional reasonings fail, it is because the spiritual laws that govern all you mentioned up there - alcohol, prostitution, fornication, adultery, marijuana, etc have a higher grip on their victims and have more power over the natural laws put in place by the normal carnal man to regulate them. And since these things are harmful in nature and we know add zero to one's life, one can easily say/see that it's the forces of evil that are at play in the lives of those who are addicted to these things - their victims.

Now, we have a God who loves righteousness, who meant well for mankind - in the spiritual and physical realms. And He's all out to save victims - those who are at the mercy of wicked spiritual laws (forces) imposed on their lives by the Devil for which natural man-made laws have been unable to save and redeem. This is not some Christianity preachings and stuff. This is for real folks and this God wants victims of all you listed up there, wirinet, to reach out to his outstretched arm for help, and he will gladly save them.

when you mention God you infuriate some people here,
Ill add on to your post later.

Timiofak:
Lol; and how does that concern you ? Did I impregnate your mother and I didn’t take care of you ?

If you don’t get out of my sight with your ridiculous assumptions.

Btw if I impregnate my girlfriend today I can take care of both her and the child that would come forth and if she doesn’t want the child my state of Pennsylvania still does abortions. Good riddance.

I have liked your reply with extreme prejudice

budaatum:
Nothing is enshrined, is my simple point, since it is a meaningless word concerning a constitution which is constantly amended. Or don't you know that an amendment deenshrines?

An example is, some would claim the Supreme Court enshrined a woman's right to abort with Roe v Wade, but as you can clearly see, the Supreme Court just deenshrined it and can deenshrine whatever the constitution supposedly enshrined too.

Here is another example of deenshrining.

What would be the requirements for amendments? Two cigar smoking oligarchs in an office or a whole number of states? You betray yourself by the way by saying SCOTUS deenshrined Roe v Wade. What they did which you may not understand is to correct the creation of a law that did not exist. They found that Roe v Wade was not constitutional.

Timiofak:
You do have a point I agree

It should be law

But my point right here is

They are numerous Supreme Court landmarks that aren’t laws

For example brown v board of education; there is no exact law upholding it

But it is a settled precedent

But it’s obvious if more right wing judges get there they can turn it an leave it to state right.

Which is absolutely bullshit

Oh my You must be a casanova judging from the way you are in favor of abortions. Easy for you. Just make out and if things go wrong Roe v Wade makes sure you never pay child support.
Just my opinion. In other words I think you are stating matters out of personal interests.

Timiofak:
Lol; roe v wade was seen as a part of a section of the constitution

What was the major reason for the civil war ? State rights to own slaves

Only if you are saying the civil war was wrong and states should have been allowed to make its own laws ?

Loving v Virginia; is federal over reach in your opinion; let’s get it out there and leave it to state

All of those numerous land mark cases; leave it to state rights

It’s a bullshit argument and a no brainer

State rights is a lazy excuse to backward the country

We’ve seen it during the era of Jim Crow

In some states lynching just became a crime as recently as 10 years

How don’t you guys see the retrogressive movement of things like this. Bro omo;

Tell us more about civil war . Is it democrats or Republicans who wanted to keep their slaves. Jim Crow was a democrat too.

Again . The Supreme Court should not be making laws. It should interpret the constitution as written.

ono:
The entire J6 operation was a coup carried out to get rid of Donald J Trump. He was in the "way", and they needed to get him out.

He who hath an ear and eyes let him/her see and know how demonRats consipred with the powers in the Swamp DC to remove Trump from office.

Idiots are hoodwinked by the likes of Schiff and Pelosi that questioning an election is a crime. The left is making a lot of things criminal. Like covid vaccines suspicion, men can be women on the fly, Roe v Wade, Russia collusion etc. Literally the left is building a narrative and with the help of the media are helping to project their version as the gospel truth.Dare you criticize their version of the truth and you get cancelled.
Trump advisors are being subpoenad because they doubted the elections Yet democrats hounded Trump throughout his term, impeached him twice in the process.
Democrats are just pure evil people.

The left seems hell bent on shaping world opinion but they wont touch China.

ono:
https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/17/jan-6-committee-ignores-clear-evidence-of-mass-illegal-voting-systematically-broken-election-laws/

Bas, ben, raum, friends,
While we celebrate the decision of the US Supreme Court to ban the evil abortion-promoting and enhancing R v W, we should not lose sight of the evil done by some RINOs and DemonRats to Steal the Nov 2020 elections.

Please see the snapshot and read fully the report in the link above.

I have snipped important details of the report for easy read.

Ono

Trump had won handily in 2017 Joe Biden handily gave the victory to the winner Trump.

In 2020 several states had sent alternate electors but the session was called off Not because Ray Epps cohorts breached the barriers but because a pipe bomb had been found behind the Capitol. Talk about the pipe bombs, there is footage of the guy who planted them but has never been arrested.
In 2020 several states had sent alternate electors unlike in 2017. In such a case they was supposed to discuss any objection and Mike Pence should have given the states 10 days to make up their minds. The pipe bombs made them adjourn the session Pelosi was seen being whispered to about the fake pipe bombs and session was abruptly adjourned. Ray Epps cohorts then moved in and when the protesters cleared all those objections were not listened because of the 'insurrection'
Joe Biden was then certified.

Here is a video of democrats in 2017 certification. Democrats objecting but did not have any alternate electors so Joe Biden dismissed them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ZtrFaa8Tw
But today saying the 2020 election was fraudulent is a crime.

The world has ended Roe v Wade has been overturned by Trump appointed judges

wirinet:
A baby is a foreign body in a woman. The woman's body has special mechanism to protect the woman's immune system from attacking the fetus right from the zygote stage. Sometimes this mechanism does not work and the woman's immune system attacks the fetus causing perennial miscarriage.

I don't expect that kind of argument from an educated person like you. I expect that from illiterates who use the "you never know what that baby will turn out to be" or "babies are blessings from God" to create children they cannot take care of, thereby creating millions of almajiris and street children that go on to constitute menace to the society.

Describing a baby as a foreign body likens the baby to a virus for instance, A baby is an extension of her body carrying her genes .
When you a call a baby a foreign thing You are setting the stage that she can dispose the baby off like a virus any time she feels like.

wirinet:
I highlighted the key points in your argument.
You talk about stable family. How many families in Nigeria (and even the US) are stable? Lots of children grow up in disjointed families. Might be a a consequence of polygamy, separation, divorce or even work related stress and pressures. There are families in which the children are subjected to all kinds of emotional, physical or sexual abuse among other types of child abuse.

Good school? How many good schools have you identified particularly among boarding schools. Schools of nowadays suffer from the same incompetence, corruption/immorality and greed that afflict the general society. It will be a grave error for parents to abdicate the raising and monitoring of children to schoools. My wife and I monitor my children like hawks and believe in the Bible injunction of "spare the rod and spoil the child" when necessary.


True. But the myriad of ways does not always work or available when needed.
Family dynamics must be discussed and agreed upon before marriage. In my own case I only wanted 2 children, but after 2 boys my wife was begging for another child because she felt lonely being the only female in the house. I agreed and tried again. When she got pregnant, she practically spent the early period in her church in prayers. I made it clear that if its also a boy, that is, because I don't have the energy and resources to raise 4 children. So when it came out a girl, she was over the moon. Since then she had been on birth control. It failed once and she had to go to her chemist friend for an abortion pill. Which took care of it effortlessly. My daughter was 8 yesterday and it was a big celebration both at her school and at home.
What I am getting at is that the decision to have a child should rest solely on the couples or woman or bears responsibility for birthing, caring and raising the child.

If you hear the cost of CS nowadays fear go catch you to get pregnant. We never even talk of pampers yet.




But many red states says want to prohibit abortion under all and any circumstances.
Yes abortion pills should be made readily available just like contraceptive pills. Afterall they work in similar ways to achieve the same goal.

If a woman does not want a foreign body inside her, you cannot force her to. If you force her to birth a baby she doesn't want, then what happens to the baby once it leaves her body. Are you also going to prosecute her for abandoning the baby and refusing to breatfeed it?

A household with a father and mother I would term it stable if they are not at loggerheads.
Good school. The essence of education is to bring up kids holistically and monitor their development. There are very many good state and public schools.
Birth control. I wont describe how I am sure I will not get another but its a matter that we have discussed.
A baby is not a foreign body in a woman . It is a baby, you never know what that baby will turn out to be in life so dont kill it unless there is a maternal risk

AmazonHippolyta:
Good for blue states that keep financing and bailing out red states.
Am I right?

Correct, A new industry, Abortion tourism,
Even the gods are smiling over this. Companies running away from blue to red states, the blue states will recoup the tax losses from abortion revenue. Win win.

AmazonHippolyta:
Nobody will be going to jail they will get the abortions they need when they fly to other states.
Merrick Garland has spoken and the FDA has spoken save your tears it has not even started.

Wow the ruling will create abortion tourism. Some states will have increased revenue because women seeking abortions will flock to these states.

AmazonHippolyta:
Yes since there are no pills for men who ejaculate and are capable of impregnating multiple women in a month that will do for now.

I am for millions of babies who will not be killed. This ruling will encourage people to have safe sex, I dont see that as a problem

AmazonHippolyta:
The DOJ has spoken.

Call Merrick Garland to tell him otherwise as it stands abortion pills will remain accessible to every state and the federal government controls the UPSS. They will still mail it.

What a nice thing . Mail abortion pills to deserving women who cant close their legs

wirinet:
If all safe sex options available fails nko? Or if she is too young (12 -14), was raped or involved incest nko?

What of ectopic pregnancy? How will you guys deal with ectopic pregnancy?

A stable family advices the kids on what to do and to be open . A good school monitors students for signs of being sexually active or having personal problems eg parents not being there . I always go to school meetings at least once a term where the teacher will outline his/her observations then I can go talk to the child if something is amiss. I am not the perfect parent but at least my kids wont do anything without letting us know, Its all about communication with the children .And the kids know that their parents love them, that's enough for the kids d for they know parents have their back.

Women have myriad of ways of avoiding pregnancy. I know of some couples where the woman gets depo provera while the husband wants kids .

Ectopic pregnancy. The life of the mother and kid are in danger so terminate. But the screaming liberals want to be sent abortion pills via mail any time they feel like they want to get rid of the baby inside them.

ono:
https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/17/jan-6-committee-ignores-clear-evidence-of-mass-illegal-voting-systematically-broken-election-laws/

Bas, ben, raum, friends,
While we celebrate the decision of the US Supreme Court to ban the evil abortion-promoting and enhancing R v W, we should not lose sight of the evil done by some RINOs and DemonRats to Steal the Nov 2020 elections.

Please see the snapshot and read fully the report in the link above.

I have snipped important details of the report for easy read.

Thanks. Trump won Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,Arizona and Michigan. They all stopped counting votes on election night with Trump leading. When counting resumed FJB suddenly acquired enough votes to beat Trump in those key battleground states.
Ill write more later.

Tdotraptors1:
Alberta Medical Association (Alberta is one of two most conservative provinces in Canada) is getting ready for an influx of Americans from Republican states)

The statement below was released today:


Goodluck to American women living in GOP states.

Is there a difference between a mother killing what her body participated in creating And a suicide bomber killing what his body did not create?

AmazonHippolyta:
Oh my goodness illiterates don't understand English what part of inalienable did you not understand? why am I still engaging you when you can enlighten yourself instead of going to Qanon sites reading that Biden lost the election.

Have a good night.
My day is just beginning.

AmazonHippolyta:
The person is still unconscious and can still gain consciousness the difference is very clear one is a breathing human with inalienable rights(personhood) the other is a foetus second to the woman with no inalienable rights you can't apply rights to what cannot be seen because rights comes with responsibilities.
You get the logic right also study Euthanasia and medical consent before bringing up a terrible analogy.

Lastly, study what it means to be a pervert you can't be this embarrassing.

To you being alive is breathing. A person being fed O₂ is not fit to live. A baby in the womb is a thing because not eating, breathing outside, etc.
A peron in a comma also gets all his/her bodily functions taken over
Euthanisia is merciful killing. A lot of people get out of commas, some recover others become vegetables. Medical consent is where the docs advice you no hope here Let go,

AmazonTopaz:
The foetus does not have rights more substantial over the woman when it has not become viable.
Does the foetus breath you have not answered that question stop deflecting and tackle the scientist head on?

How can a foetus is ascribed personhood when it is not conscious don't be daft. Do you conduct census and every ascribed thing on a breathing human to a foetus?
Nobody is dehumanising a foetus the question and reality remain a foetus can never have a substantial right over a woman, a woman is a liberty to decide for herself it is not your business to pry into the personal lives of women and tell them what to do.
The foetus is expendable if it was no exception for the life of the mother would not be a thing.

God loves children that is why he wants them fed and given the best not thrown away, abandoned and thrown into child abuse and enslaved. And by the way in a Liberal democracy rights are not gotten from your religious text.

ah ah the foetus can be killed because its not breathing by itself. What about someone in a ventilator who cannot survive without being in ICU, but can now be killed?
What logic is that ? Are you a pervert?

AmazonTopaz:
.That is disputed however my next question is not
Does the foetus breath?
Is breathing not a sign of life? If you are faced with a dilemma of saving a born baby and frozen eggs, zygotes, foetuses which one would you pick?.

The foetus has lungs but every function goes in/out through the placenta and that supplies everything to the foetus. Does the foetus eat? A pregnant mother is discouraged from drinking alcohol because it will get to the foetus bloodstream. Can a human do without oxygen. Never. Does the placenta go to the lungs. No. How does oxygen get to the foetus which is enclosed in the amniotic fluid.

Stop dehumanizing unborn babies to make them expendable. God loves them too.

Infact I saw a question if the foetus is part of the mothers body so she can do anything with it. the question was the foetus and mom share different DNA and half the time different gender.

AmazonTopaz:
A foetus scientifically does not feel pain and does not breath stop arguing against science with invalid things.
Mike Pence has told us that they will ban abortion nationally when they realise that nothing will fundamentally change then this hypocritical SCOTUS will gut states rights.

Lol, I am not crying just sad for the women who will suffer temporarily as a result of this terrible decision.

A foetus feels pain at 15 weeks. And has a heartbeat then. I cant locate an article an article where a pregnant mom was operated on and the doctors on touching the foetus saw movement at I think 15-16 moments. The foetus was responding when being pricked,
Ill post the article once I get it.

AmazonTopaz:
What a clown. Who does not understand what liberty means and that every right is not explicit a in the constitution as stated under the 9th amendment. Are these partisan hacks more intelligent and insightful than the previous justices who affirmed that right.

Nobody is crying you will be the one crying in a few months when abortion becomes nationalised

You are the one crying that abortion has been 'banned' while all SCOTUS said was that the matter should NEVER have been decided by the court as it was not explicitly stated in the constitution But the states should legislate it. NYC, Chicago, California etc will allow abortions . Maybe even after one minute above birth.

Does a baby have a right to be born and live especially when the baby can feel pain, can kick someone and has a heartbeat?

Clarence also suggested that some of the activist rulings by the court could be reconsidered. Unless you dont believe in a god why should same sex marriages be allowed in a church. If people want to make out with each let them . They dont have to force a pastor to enjoin them. Gay people would not exist if there were no straight men.

AmazonTopaz:
Basilico try not to anger me by telling me that you don't have a brain to think, I know that already.

Get lost let women who know what affects them speak let the doctors and scientist speak.

Shut up.

Look at these clowns nobody is talking about responsibilities for men it is all about controlling women for these clowns.

I did not read that trash you wrote there and will likely not read it next.

The SCOTUS ruled that abortion is not a constitutional right. It is not. Its a matter for states to decide., Get over it .
I know you have cried salty tears today

AmazonTopaz:
I am begging the GQP to bring a bill next week that will get to SCOTUS and have them overturn settled rights.

Are you paid to promote abortion. If you are getting intimate you have 20 days of safe unprotected sex. If you are raped, or incest or not planning to have a baby within 15 weeks you should have known.
Again women have tens of ways of preventing pregnancy. Including the morning after pill to prevent the ova attaching to the uterine wall within 72 hours. I dont consider that an abortion And doctors have said a foetal heartbeat is the demarcation of when to abort.
Are these people dumb, thousands of protesters who want to have their cake and eat it.
If you have regular periods you can always use the calendar, you can get also 5 year injection but which will make your butt bigger.
If you have a regular partner you communicate and he will understand when not to get intimacy. What was Beijing all about.

The left has normalized abortion , When I was growing up abortion was taboo. In the Middle East a wife ( there could be three others concurrently) you cant even use contraceptives. And you can never say no when your husband wants.
Why did Janet Jackson get a divorce?

I picked this bolded from the other thread on Roe vs Wade

If we agree that bacteria on Mars would be considered "life", Then what is a foetus.

Food for thought.