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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:07pm On Dec 08, 2020
sanpipita:
A unanimous decision too, basilico will still say cases are thrown out by technicalities
Wait and see.
Evidence is mounting.
Activist judges have refused to hear and analyse any evidence presented.

Conspiracy theory.How come only high ranking Republicans get covid at the most inconvenient time.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:04pm On Dec 08, 2020
budaatum:
Seriously. You make me wish I could ban myself so I don't have to keep seeing how much gullibility is out there!

Why don't you go get evidence for this, or don't you know it will leave a trail which will be classified as irrefutable evidence?
SCOTUS will demand offensive and defensive evidence which no single judge has granted so far.
Meanwhile 22 Dominion fraud machine images were taken by Trump campaign.A report is due in less than 24 hours from now.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:59pm On Dec 08, 2020
Joe Dementia media declared President elect


On Tuesday Biden announced his choice for “For Secretary of Health and Education Services.”

Biden botched the official’s name, “I nominate Xavier Bacheria.

Joe Biden is a mess.

It’s “Health and Human Services” – not “Health and Education Services.”
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:55pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:
Why not place a bet. Who would be in shackles after January 20th 2021 - Trump or Biden?

You have yet to tell us what crime Biden is being accused of or what is he being investigated for.
Trump can issue himself a pardon.He goes to prison and 74m people know that the election was stolen.Civil war 2 breaks him out.
Gosh Obama messed up.
Trump gets sworn in, Durham fingers Biden, Ratcliffe provides evidence that Beijing Biden is in their pockets, declass follows and Biden
Concedes
Or goes to the newly expanded Guantanamo
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:49pm On Dec 08, 2020
A witness saying the most secure voting system ( Designed and funded by Hugo Chavez and Maduro to steal repeated elections in Venezuela) did not have an internet connection that would allow remote access and/or manipulation.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1334593610231263247

Sit on your fat butts while evidence rises to a crescendo.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:37pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:
Circumstantial evidences at best. Tell Gulianni to bring it concrete evidence of votes that were changed, how many of them that were changed and the perpetrators of the fraud.

Republics are governed by laws. There are various avenues to seek redress for perceived grievances. The only other alternative is violence.


Same thing as I said above. Circumstantial evidence at best. The actual fraud was not even presented before even talking about evidence.


You mean all the judges in all the 50 cases are activists judges. You know the saying that when every other person you meet is mad, then it's time to start looking at yourself.


Military tribunal court date in civil election cases? Are you sure you are not one a strong thing?



Confirmation you need help.
Why not wait and see to see how this great voter robbery plays out.Might end up with the Beijing Biden being sworn in, or him in shackles.
Karma is a bitch.
Do good and expect good tidings.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:05pm On Dec 08, 2020
Got work to do now.Ill await for Judge Alito ruling later in the morning.

Anyway there is no evidence of fraud.
Let the choirmaster lead the song,the song might end with some aholes in Guantanamo.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:56pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:
You still don't get it and will probably never get it. Texans have no right to tell any other state what voting system to use. At best only the congress has the powers to interfere in election laws made by states.
Texas can reject Dominion system, thats their perogative, they can impose that on any other state.


Again, after the election has taking place, all voter and election fraud cases can only be litigated in the courts, Texas has no say in matters beyond its borders.

Also be aware that the Dominion system was used not only in the 4 states you guys are obsessed with but in over 24 states.

I am sure Dominion system was used more in states where Trump won. So if you guys want elections cancelled in states where Dominion was used, then states won by Trump using Dominion must be cancelled as well.


How is a Texan vote disenfranchised? Are their votes not counted? Is Texas electoral collage votes not casted? You are not making any sense at all.

Supreme Court can't manufacture evidence for Trump. The Supreme Court can only look at evidence presented at the lower courts and rule on it. Supreme Court obviously would not rule based on conjectures and innuendos.
What is the point of voting in a republic when other states stop counting votes for hours only for them to resume with Joe Biden getting 113% of votes counted and Trump 87% whereas before the count was stopped Trump had over 51% of counted votes.
Why should Dominion Electoral counters have any algorithm in vote counts and give fractional votes instead of integers when tabulating?
Why should Georgia say they will stop counting simultaneously with 4 other battleground states where Trump was leading after which Biden then overtakes Trump.And video of the counting hall in Georgia show the democrats chase away everyone because of a leaking toilet at 10pm and leave Ruby Freeman, her daughter , Ray Snr counting ballots immediately after everyone else leaves.Now there is even video/audio of the planned stoppage of vote counting by the supervisor.

This thing is yuge. Activist judges are not allowing audits, simply throwing out all cases.50 so far.

And if you check, the military tribunal courts have cleared all Dec cases before them
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Something huge may or may not come up soon.Indict a rat and the rat will rat on who was issuing orders
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:06pm On Dec 08, 2020
budaatum:
Why should I wait for anyone to tell me, foreign agent buda, that I interfered in the election that I was here day in day out interfering in?

Goddamnit, basilico. I so love you for underestimating me. Did I not even raise the dead to help me interfere?
A starting point is whether Dominion machines were promoted to be strictly offline.
According to their contract in Georgia a wireless GSM modem was included in the architecture of the system.This particular GSM modem is manufactured in China.
A Trump team campaign witness claims they captured data packets being sent out to Europe , and also the returned packet captures.
This thing is big,Let's wait and see.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:01pm On Dec 08, 2020
budaatum:
One thing known for certain is, a person telling the truth does not need to lie.

Basilico, is it "democrats rushing to dismiss cases on technicalities" or the courts telling you your 'evidence' is nonsensical rubbish and you have no case?
Trump team and supporters have filed affidavits alleging voter fraud.
If Biden was cleanly elected ,why not allow nationwide audit.
Instead you have democrats as defendants pushing for case dismissal.
A judge Batten heard a case yesterday, he already had a 35 page rejoinder on reasons to dismiss the suit. I add a qualifier.An activist pretending to be a judge.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:57pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:
The answer is a resounding YES!


The cases were not dismissed on technicalities, they were dismissed for lack of evidence. Trump lawyers presented no physical evidence to back up their claims.

The voter machines are not in Biden's custody, so he has no powers to allow voter machine forensics and or ballot verification.
Let's wait for Ratcliffe report due in 45 days after election day on whether foreign agents interfered in the elections via citizen lobbyists or direct internet access to Dominion Systems that Chinese co-own.

Be patient. As it is of now it's not cast in stone that Biden will be sworn in.Anything can happen.Before Jan 2021
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:51pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:
I don't still get your argument. You mean Texan votes were cancelled by fraud at the state level by election laws made by Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia? How did a law made by legislatures in these states affect the Texas voter?
These states can choose whomsoever they wish as president, likewise Texas.

Now what are the prayers of this Texas suit?
To cancel the elections in all 4 states and deny them the electoral votes?

For the Supreme Court to allocate the electoral votes to Trump despite the results of the elections?

To arbitrarily cancel all Mail in and absentee ballots and mail in votes (which heavily favours Biden) from the official results and only leave the in person voting (which heavily favours Trump), hereby disenfranchising over half the registered voters?

You want trump who had never and will never have popular support to rule America by force? You realize that at no time in his presidency was he able to get 50% support from the citizenry. He may have cult following but he was the US most unpopular president in recent history.
I've already chewed the food for you with regards to this matter,you now only have to swallow .

Texans voted for Trump.They rejected Dominion Electoral vote counters.
Technocrats in those states enforced Dominion machines knowing very well they could be fraud prone.
A Texan vote is disenfranchised if those states used Dominion to alter votes.Ditto if they sent ballots to everyone on the voter rolls be they out of state or dead and who eventually voted.SC will rule on this by demanding to see if the irregularities captured live were part of as Joe Biden said "we have the most efficient ballot fraud thing...."
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:44pm On Dec 08, 2020
Justice Emmet Sullivan has finally dismissed the case of Gen Flynn.
Talk about injustice, prosecution withdraws case, judge becomes "prosecutor".
Why are they afraid of Gen Flynn to tie him down for 4 years?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:41pm On Dec 08, 2020
Ibime:
More like one day one hysteria
It's a constitutional matter that activist judges have no jurisdiction.
As usual taint the messenger not the message
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:39pm On Dec 08, 2020
Ibime:
I know Trumpists don't read. She has already been before a Judge who called her not a credible witness
Thanks for the correction.
Did Joe Biden get 80m votes, was the election the most secure ever?
If your answer is Yes, then why are democrats rushing to dismiss cases on technicalities?
If Biden won lawfully , why don't they allow voter machine forensics and or ballot verification
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:20pm On Dec 08, 2020
budaatum:
Sounds like what you are saying is despite "Joe Biden led a senate judiciary committee to prevent Clarence Thomas from ascending to the SC", Judge Clarence Thomas will still "use the constitution to guide his decisions".

I must say, its funny how you fail to see that you are claiming Judge Clarence Thomas will not do what Joe Biden said he might do, which is "interpret the constitution as per modern trends ...eg on Twitter trends".
Karma is a bitch.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:14pm On Dec 08, 2020
Ibime:
Yes, that's why the judge dismissed her as not a credible witness. Her social media should let you know she is batshït crazy
Did she appear before a judge in the first case.
Do you guys not get tired of lying?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:13pm On Dec 08, 2020
budaatum:
I know someone who seems to know better than you do but I'm certain you would not ever take his word for it.
You still don't get it.
Texas is saying the irregularities brought forth so far diluted their votes in those states because those states violated the constitution by not using the legislature to amend electoral laws.They used executive orders and court orders to change state electoral laws which is against the constitution, It should be state legislatures only who can change state electoral laws.Not their SoS or their supreme courts.

This is a constitutional matter, did these states violate the law as written or not.Which allowed for fraud

And even RINOs certifying the results where they have personal interests and provable fraud claims, they are breaking the law. I'm told some have lawyered up
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:00pm On Dec 08, 2020
Ibime:
She already did herself with her belligerent and crazy display at Michigan hearing. Now she is open to trolling of the highest order. Who would have thought this racist MAGA has been receiving plenty BBC in the strip club before now?
Did she lie? I'm not sure if she was under oath during the hearing.

Did she lie as a witness.Yes or no.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:58pm On Dec 08, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Texas Obviously lack the Jurisdiction to challenge the voting system of other states.

I believe there is also a time limit to when they could have challenged the changes, it’s should have been obviously before the election.

I think it is not when the results have been announced and certified by the respective states
You don't get the argument.Texas is suing those states for violation of the constitution which allowed massive fraud.
Meaning Texan votes were cancelled by fraud at the state level by these technocrats not following the constitution.
States can sue other states.And present their case to the Supreme Court which will determine if the actions by these states diluted the constitution Texans were affected .
The SC is the arbitrator of states vs states.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:53pm On Dec 08, 2020
Ibime:
Pedo guy Giuliani must have got picked his witness while getting a lap dance.

How many BBC done ruin Melissa before she join MAGA?
If she is telling the truth as an eye witness Do you think a jury will look at her sworn affidavit at the point of perjury and dismiss her.
Democrats brought up a decades old accuser on Bret Kavanaugh , a witness who did not remember the house,the year, who she was with, who took her home and still her 4 confidants disagreed with her
You think Kavanaugh , ACB, Clarence and Alto will not have their last laugh? At people who hounded them trying to destroy them like the media is doing to this "drunk" and now "stripper"?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:40pm On Dec 08, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Trump is obviously the president in lame duck session till January 20.

He can't really do any long term deals or anything

Biden at this moment is the only person that is preparing for the next four years as the American president.

And except anything changes in the last minute, Biden is on course to become the next president 40 something days from now.

So Trump is simply the president for the press while Biden is the one everyone is talking about for future purpose expect Trump succeed in his coup of course! .
After elections Zero in 2016 delegitimized the Wailing Wall in Israel through the UN.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:32pm On Dec 08, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Yep, republicans have been saying the same everywhere because the a soar losers but ironically for them only a court can reverse certification of results not rep members. grin
If you understand why Texas has gone direct to the SCOTUS , you should see the game plan.
All lower level judges have thrown out 50 cases on technical issues.
Texas is saying 4 states broke the constitution by using courts to change election laws instead of the legislature of the state.That is a fact.
Texas also says as a result of this arbitrary last minute changes whether approved by state supreme courts, the constitution says only state legislatures can change the laws especially regarding the electoral.
Titanic battle.
Don't forget Joe Biden led a senate judiciary committee to prevent Clarence Thomas from ascending to the SC.And he will determine whether Texas suit gets a hearing. Joe Biden bogus committee did not want him because he uses the constitution to guide his decisions.
Joe Biden wanted a Judge to interpret the constitution as per modern trends ...eg on Twitter trends!!

That's why I keep saying, Biden can be sworn in, but there is a chance he might not
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:21pm On Dec 08, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Election results have been certified by every single state in America and yes Biden won 306 electoral college votes with 7 million votes lead. cheesy

Let that sink in for a moment

Certifiying an election means the state already declared the winner o justf the election, so at this point bro, Trump is the media president hoping to stage a coup of some sort to remain president grin

Why do think it's Trump having the sleepless night over the election results while Biden continues to mind his own business ? cheesy
When it rains it pours

Arizona Republicans on Monday called for the decertification of their state’s false election results.

As Cristina Laila reported — last week Arizona Rep. Mark Finchem issued a call to withhold the state’s Electoral College votes for Joe Biden because “he believes there is enough significant evidence of fraud to invalidate the state’s votes.”
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:06pm On Dec 08, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Biden is wise not too.

Trump will switch it and claim the democrats have something to hide, hence they are going to court to prevent them from challenging the election.

And more importantly, challenging Trump won't change much as the results are still the results.
Would it not be better for a forensic audit.
If Trump lost he goes home.Biden is a media president elect for now more than a month after elections.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:03pm On Dec 08, 2020
feedthenation:
Trump’s options dwindle as safe harbor deadline looms
President Donald Trump’s effort to snatch a second term through a series of state and federal court challenges has been flaming out for weeks. Now, the calendar has all but extinguished it.

Dec. 8 is the so-called “safe harbor” date for the presidential election, a milestone established in federal law for states to conclude any disputes over the results. Trump’s failure to gain traction in litigation, with his lawyers and allies failing to block crucial states from declaring Joe Biden the winner, means the safe harbor deadline stands as another potentially insurmountable reason for the courts to decline to intervene.

The Archivist of the United States has received certificates from at least 26 states -- including five that are in the president’s crosshairs for post-election legal challenges: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/08/trumps-deadline-looms-443561/
The only date cast in the constitution is Jan 21. Or is it Jan 20? In 1824 it went past that.
I read somewhere that it was till March.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:00pm On Dec 08, 2020
Timiofak:
Ah yes. Y'all are bitter losers

I loved how trump supporters were plenty here before the election, claiming all sorts. How Trump would win in a landslide greater than every other since Reagan.

Now you lost ”yugely” you are now claiming voter fraud, bla bla.

Me I crunch data is here spinning all rubbish.

You people are irritating.

Accept your loss, cut the bullshit so you can heal faster.
I'm resigned that Biden may be sworn in.
I'm not sure that he will.
Judges throwing out cases on technicalities instead of requiring offensive and defensive witness.
All 49 cases so far.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:56pm On Dec 08, 2020
ono:
One idea I agree with - so far.
Have you not noticed that Republicans made gains at federal levels in battleground states only to lose at the state level.
The rats were scared Trump would win first, so their fraud was for Biden.
The democrats were looking to gain 15 house seats or so, they lost almost all of them But Biden won the Presidency.
A single city rigging can turn a whole state blue in the Presidential race.Yet they lost the house races .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:06pm On Dec 08, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
Reports say Biden plans to announce his pick for AG this week lol.
Na that one be the koko even republicans are interested in knowing who it is.

I would have loved a Sally Yates but I don't know if she would be confirmed I expect Graham to ask her stupid questions about Trump.
If it is not Yates anybody will do abeg so far the person deal with Trump and his enablers.
Durham has his sights supposedly on FBI agents who spied on Trump.Sally Yates was acting AG when they cooked up the scheme.
If Republicans get to win Georgia , Sally Yates won't pass muster
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:59pm On Dec 08, 2020
Timiofak:
Lmao, I can tell you ivy league students aren't the ones racking up student loans

Student loans are mostly from public universities, and ivy leagues are mostly privates, that is the real school of elites.
Most Ivy League graduate and get good jobs by virtue of being among the top tier students whom employers need.They are quite expensive and loan out students.
Public Universities , some degrees on offer are just absurd.They will hardly get you a job.

Public universities debts is huge because of more students I agree.
Many graduates end up doing menial jobs, especially immigrants.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:14pm On Dec 07, 2020
PrideofLincoln2:
It is very debatable as at now especially with Trump ballooning the National Debt to over $7 Trillion with his wreck less tax cuts and wasteful spending. Interesting time ahead in the Fruited Plains.
Ivy league have huge endowments. They can afford to write off debts.
Community colleges, who will pay them?
Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos or Zuckerberg?

To be honest I'm resigned to Biden being sworn in , though I still think there's a chance he may not.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:22pm On Dec 07, 2020
PrideofLincoln2:
Is he going to do that by Executive order ?. Just wondering because that will be good news for a lot of young people still paying their student loans. Very interesting time indeed.
Who will pay for the student loans. A degree in tracking how butterflies are affected by a 6 foot barrier along America and Mexico.

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