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salford1:
Liar. And the deficit has even gotten worst under Trump as at 2020.

Factor in 2.5% interest rate.
Trump has added 3T in 4 years. This year the Covid19 relief cash takes a huge chunk of the 3T.
Do you have to lie in plain sight?

Timiofak:
Sir I am not blaming trump for debts, you brought it. And I am pointing it to you that debts grow during it after a recession, watch how the debt climbs for the next 10 years. Since we are blaming Obama for debts, why shouldn't we blame trump? Rubbish

And what's your plane to pay debts off when taxes are lower?

We could tax billionaires more. They will maintain an office to look American, but will be operating offshore in tax Havens.
Another way, give the masses a sense of pride in buying locally produced goods.
A dentist charges an arm and a leg for a simple tooth extraction, in return the house mover charges him an arm and a leg to move him to the suburbs.
That way money goes around, the fittest survive, the losers whine all day from Mom's basement about how life is not fair to them armed with a degree in advanced study of border wall butterfly migration curtailment.

feedthenation:
The national debt just barreled past $23 trillion. Here's how Trump's $3 trillion portion compares to Obama, Bush, and Clinton.

https://www.businessinsider.com/national-debt-deficit-trump-how-it-compares-obama-bush-clinton-2019-11?r=US&IR=T


The national debt of the United States barreled past $23 trillion on November 1, according to data from the Treasury Department. It marked the most money the federal government has owed and is a result of a growing budget deficit, which neared $1 trillion in the last fiscal year.

To put that in perspective, the $23 trillion figure is roughly equal to the economies of China, Japan, and Germany combined, according to the Peterson Foundation, an organization advocating deficit reduction.

Yet three years into a norm-shattering presidency, Donald Trump's spending measures up similarly with that of his predecessors.

He's in line with past Republican presidents like George W. Bush, who racked up deficits with boosts in military spending and a wave of tax cuts. Trump has added about $3 trillion to the national debt so far during his nearly three years in office, despite his pledge to wipe it out in eight years and his campaigning on being "the king of debt."


--- And this was before the covid pandemic ---

Subtract the 3T from corona virus package reliefs, one of which the Dems scuttled yesterday.

Timiofak:
And he reduced deficits which trump has doubled back. What about debt? In 4 years trump is blowing out Obama’s record somehow.

A blanket statement. Before Covid19 lockdowns what was the growth in debt.
While at it, subtract the extra 2.5% interest rate added by Feds. A sample calculation shows that an increase by 2% of 20Trillion yields a massive 200B in debt.
Let's give Trump a hypothetical 0% interest rate for comparative purposes. How much would the debt grow?
Next shutdown all business that creates wealth and livelihoods to 330m people .Pay business an incentive to retain n pay their employees working using Zoom or Hangouts or Teams.
The debt grows.

Timiofak:
They keep claiming cnn is bad, but fox news is legit

Cnn legit reports news, good or bad. Because trump hates them, doesn’t mean they lie

Throughout obama presidency did you see him insult fox, for dragging him because he wore a tan suit, of the coffee salute propaganda.

In the real sense, trump didnt build any economy, he rode on coartails of an already great economy, how can you want to claim the good but not the bad ?

He claims he built the economy, but when anything wrong comes out, its every other persons fault, isnt that a bully ?

Let me give you an analogy about the unemployment numbers, if you are running a 100m race, you ran 55m successfully being the first, then you handed the baton to someone that ran bearly 15m extra then the person claims, he won the race by his own effort and only. How ridiculous does that sound?

Obama drove unemployment from 10.0% that was handed to him by a Republican, to 4.6% Then handed it to trump, Trump drove it 3.8%. Then claims he built the best economy, how insane does that sound. If you all trump supporters, really think he did build it

I pray any project you are about to complete, you lose it and another person claims the success. Amen.

Obama grew the national debt from 9m to 19m in 8 lousy years. He grew more debt than the last 43 presidents before him all combined.
And the Feds kept interest rates at 0% for all his time as the destroyer in chief.
Under Trump Feds have raised interest rates how many times.

Pisses me off when lack of adequate knowledge makes clown heap praise on a snake oil salesmen.

Timiofak:
Lmao, actually he told the police department to release all allegations, he called them to.

Since when the popular me too lawyer dropped her case, its been crickets. The case is dead on arrival jare

I hope rudy and trump paid her well.

New York Post was forcibly moved to the Twitter gulag.for reporting Biden family corruption.
Your sources suck.

feedthenation:
Even all your colleagues at Al-Q-Anon have given up on the Hunter Biden emails saga --- please move on likewise for your mental health ---

I don't believe Qanon . I do get some perspectives from 4chan and 8 Chan.

feedthenation:
Then why are all these allegations about Joe Biden using his position for kickbacks just coming out 2 weeks to the elections, this guy has been in WH for 8 years, these information didn't come out in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 --- this smells of desperation from Trump and the GOP.

By the way what's the story about Tara Reade (she accused Joe Biden of sexual assault), what's going on with this --- until now everything is mute ---

They have been verified. They are true and you take that to the bank.

Trump spoke to a guy about grabbing them by their ..... in 2005.The tape came out in October 7th 2016 or so.

Tara Reade. The media does not report it, so it does not exist Joe the gropper refused to release her records .

PrideofLincoln1:
Poverty incarnate. The worst of the unpaid cultist who will never see the inside of America till you go to your maker. In 13 days, your lunacy will go away and hopefully you will get treatment at the nearest psychiatric hospital. Nigeria is burning and an okrika wearing church mouse is fetish about a vile unrepentant Nazi loving racist Trump whose supporters will hang you and your likes on an Oak Tree without any remorse.

Come on man or rather bean counter.
Same phrases always. You don't sound like original.
Give us some better comic relief

PrideofLincoln1:
Why don't you go back to your religion section and stop making a foool of yourself.
What the heck do you know about America from your cubicle spouting garbage as usual.

Bean counter is back. What a relief. three more pages of nonsense about to be spewed.
In America that you alone inhabit , the sun rises in the East and sets in the West. And astronomers at the space station can confirm the Earth is round.
And the sky is blue bar clouds.
And Joe Biden received 50% of what his crackhead of a son made in corrupt deals.

benalvino2:
People like you should not reference the media then. You can point what you don't like from his twit but the media constantly lie about him. Nothing they say about him is positive so you can only cling to the media and what they say only if you hate trump. But if you hate him cause of what he tweets... Then you should be calling the media out for lying all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqJgGhDKmLU

Timiofak:
Oh my God sir nothing has been proven, nothing at all. Its just mails that have no metadata. There is literally no evidence, like you claimed.

I keep telling you its allegedly, allegedly.

Your response makes this looks like a case of man bit the dog. Or the dog ate my homework. Or I didn't do homework because the TV said I can't afford to miss the next program.

Timiofak:
No one is disputing if they have bad blood. What we are telling you is, the exclusive is to only brietbart !!! Come on.

As i said lets watch.

And none of it is facts, every reputable website is using “alleged”

The evidence needed to convince you that Joe was the big recipient in Hunter deals has been proven. But not to your evidentiary standard. What's remaining . An indictment.
And if it's proven, how much more feet will you move the goalposts

Konkoja:
Trump to clean up corruption? Now, I've heard it all ���.

The slogan which maybe you never heard. Drain the swamp.
Never Trumpers and Dems making it harder.

benalvino2:
They know the media is playing. They just hate trump that's why they go with anything the media tells them. There is nothing negative the media will say about trump that they will believe.

No Nobel prize nomination from me, but you just hit a home run

benalvino2:
Truth and facts is to them like sunlight is to vampires. It burns. They avoid any outlet that will tell them the truth but embraces any that will feed them lies like Russian prostitutes pissing on Donald Trump

I give some the headway into a deeper soul search . Maybe they will discover media is playing them like a tambourine.
And the money welders are laughing at how their stupid foot soldiers are waging their battle on their behalf.
Trump was elected to clean up the corruption foistered by the left.

Timiofak:
But you do know the devon archer case, hunter was accuited yeah ? For no wrong doing, chris heinz already had bad blood with hunter since 2014 over board seat. Just come on. I already told you the Gop is desperate and they are making holes where they are none.

Why are you schilling for a criminal Joe.

The email is from Burisma's Vadym
Pozharskyi to Devon Archer--with a
copy to Hunter Biden. Pozharskyi
makes it crystal clear that Burisma is
hiring Archer and Hunter Biden to
make the Ukrainian Prosecutor
General, Viktor Shokin's, investigation
of Burisma go away. Here's SWC's
succinct summary, which quotes from
the email:


There was a financier to the Biden corruption family in the saga of Devon Archer.Ill post link later.
Hunter was not acquitted because he was not indicted.

And always remember a broken clock is usually correct twice a day. Listen, read, corroborate both sides of an argument and make up your mind.Media wants Trump out , they don't give a rats arse who will replace him

Timiofak:
Sincerely i wanted to ignore this, but once i saw peter schwitzer, i couldnt hold my laughter anymore. An editor at brietbart ? Godforbid i listen to this ridiculousness.

Appears you have been misled to not notice that there are sources corroborating Joe Biden corruption.
One is from Hunter's emails, texts, photos and videos retrieved from his laptop.
The other is from Devon Archer, former roommate to Sen John Kerry son in law. Who gave email access to Peter Schweitzer.He is in jail for swindling some Indian tribes.He was moved to another penitentiary yester, he is afraid of his life and is in solitary confinement.
Another is a former biz partner of Hunter, Chris Heinz and Devon Archer who verified the emails from Devon Archer.And also says Joe was the big kahuna in the room.

benalvino2:
The fbi has been investigating the Biden's for money laundry while trump was being impeached over it. The email and the laptop is real which they also mentioned. You can't deny this one

The left should remember that Samuel Doe had a slogan that won him an election.
He killed my ma, he killed my pa, I'll vote for him."

The choice for them then of not voting for him was war he would wage.

Dems are saying Joe is corrupt , but we'll vote for him.

Timiofak:
First of all there is literally no evidence Tony bobulinski, he claims he is, no evidence. We have seen people come out to say various false things. But no problem, sha I already told you, no one cares. Because its is not true.

He was copied in on the emails.
There is no evidence? when the emails came from the authenticated account of this Former business partner of Hunter by name Devon Archer.
Devon gave his log in Gmail credentials to Peter Schweitzer , there were 26000 emails in the account.
Further the FBI was investigating Wire fraud and illicit money laundering.
What is evidence to you. To tape Joe Biden receiving money from China. The FBI I know of does not work that away. They tie loose ends, this one if not for media bias , is tightly proven .

Timiofak:
Lmao, okay. How is it a lie ? I showed you link showing she did use her postion to fast track things, but biden that you have no evidence, is the problem

See sir, by all means if joe biden is guilty of anything, let AG barr charge him !!!

Ag Barr is trumps appointee, why isnt he charging hin ? Charge him then we see, discovery would be fun actually. You hypocrical lots.

Debunk this then.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/10/22/hunter-bidens-exbusiness-partner-emails-are-real-and-joe-biden-was-behind-scheme-to-make-millions-in-china-n2578565

I read both left and right wing and It's unprecedented the desperation by the left to remove Trump while ignoring every Dem criminal activity.

Timiofak:
Who is talking about his business? They are involved in his presidency, he claimed they wont be involved right ?

When you are surrounded by wolves in sheepskins you turn to family. Trump has good people around him, but some have been running cover over nefarious deeds for decades.
I'll say Gen MacMaster was one wolf. Hired the Ukrainian whistleblowers, got rid of Flynn point men in the security council.
I perfectly understand why Trump final fallback plan was to people close to him.
Would we say no other President has been treated so badly like Trump ever.

Timiofak:
Oh my God, sir that is not the point !!! Prior to trumps presidency he claimed to be the transparent person, that his kids wont be involved, that they would be busy managing there companies. But its cleary obvious, that isnt the case. They traded on trumps name, and its so obvious, but yeah hunter biden.

Just enjoy, lets watch.

The idea that the NYT would report on Trump
having a Chinese bank account, but not
Hunter Biden holding a 10% stake in a
Chinese venture for Joe Biden, is just straight-
up media corruption https:///
mm1y5r2ada
— Will Chamberlain (@willchamberlain)
October 21, 2020

Timiofak:
Lmao, who is claiming anything ? I am showing you are an idiot and a hypocrite

Initially you claimed she didnt have trademarks that if she did, the media would be all over it, but now you are bringing in iphone amd samsung. Sir as i said i dont belive its wrong ? What is wrong is, if she used her post as a special adviser and a presidents daughter, to influence the pace of the trademarks, that would be the exact thing you guys are accusing biden of. As i said i dont want to insinuate anything, observe

Another lie. Biden used his position to receive kickbacks.This makes him a danger to security
Unlike Ivana protecting her product line.
Don't conflate the two.

Timiofak:
Lmao, what is wrong in her using her clearance to secure trademarks from a country are father claimed he doesn’t want production from anymore? I tought he claimed america first ? So why is his daughter looking for trademarks in china btw 40% faster than prior to when her father became president and when she became special adviser.

I wont say she has commited a crime, because we dont know for sure, but if her father looses in 12 days time, by January a lot of investigations into her business dealings, would surely happen. Just watch, i dont want to insinuate anything yet. Lets watch. Btw thats a report analysing her business dealings with countries, she had relations with there presidents due to her clearance

www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/amp/

You file a trademark to protect your products. As the Presidents daughter, this increased her name recognition. And a bigger audience
The moment Trump won, was he and family supposed to stop doing business and not take any measures to protect their product lines.

You are engaged in the negative feedback territory Hook line and sinker.

benalvino2:
Even if she did what is wrong on securing a trademark? Is that how low you have gone?

She should not file patents in China!!!!
The Chinese counterfeits can manufacture her line and sell it locally or abroad.
These clowns are downright insane.

LordReed:
Oh wow would you look at that stunning lack of self awareness. LMAO!

The same guy talking about bringing back manufacturing jobs to the US doesn't patronise US manufacturers. Shocked/Not Shocked. LoL!

Shocked fro. what. If you ever run a business , look for the best place.
If Dems and Never Trumpers cooperate Trump would set the right conditions to bring back manufacturing.
As a business person who may be in a business environment , that should not be Greek to you.

Timiofak:
Wait are you claiming ivanka didnt get chinese trademarks during her fathers presidency? Is that your claim ?

A trademark patent or invention patent?
I have illustrated that China files roughly 1.4m patent applications in a year. 10.1% from foreigners.
Ivanka is just one among the patents filed for and duly granted .
NBA and Hollyweird are two big franchises that make money out of China. When China tells them to jump, they ask how high. Chinese made the kit worn by Americans at the last Olympics.
And lastly Joe Biden was receiving 10% of what his crackhead made in foreign deals like China.

benalvino2:
I challenge you to provide any little evidence to your lies. She was trying to get a trademark in China that's all. But if it was true the media will be all over it. Oya provide your source.

China invention patent
application filings were flat compared
to June 2020 at 134,188 filings while
utility model applications were down
slightly at 268,928 versus 276,598
filings in June 2020.

ZooOga:
Just take a moment to think about the hypocrisy of 45. he and his daughter spent years trying to do business deals and paying bribes to the communist chinese government, then gets in office and denigrated china every change he could, and started his now infamous trade embargo. truly bipolar thinking and policy in action.

why lie. Trump as a name is a brand. You expect a certain quality when you purchase anything bearing his name. He has a clothes line, so does Ivana. Competition demands you site your location in the cheapest place , be it labor, supply chain management And other logistics.
How would he pay his manufacturers and product quality management supervisors in China without having an account there?

benalvino2:
Obama the first black president of the United state and all he did was make the country more corrupt that Ukraine and Nigeria put together.

Trump is what finally open my eyes on how the media operate and the fbi was exposed including other intelligent agencies. Obama the only man who allow a terrorist group have their own government.

Obama stopped an intelligence operation against Hesbolla where they were trafficking drugs and laundering the money through used cars.
For what you may ask. He wanted the Iran agreement to go through.
He bypassed congress for the deal and tabled it at the UN. Then he sent billions to the theocrats.
He paid cold hard cash ransom to have a hostage released in the process.

Timiofak:
Noone is exposing obama for anything, he is just pointing to what would have happened if he was running and he had an hidden chinese account

Fox would call him Beijing barry

Its what we all know.

And why is referred to as bathhouse Barry?