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Simple plain English: Now let me rephrase it, ask yourself where did the devil come from?

since God was alleged to have created Lucifer, whether the devil exists or not depends on whether we can prove God exists. the whole evolution argument is redundant and is going around in circles. why are u guys having problems telling me where God came from. u have a personal relationship with this "God" and can't even tell me where he came from or it's nature. that's mind boggling.

DNA by Watson & Crick still remain so even though they did not use any peer review, so please stop all this intellectual pontification about the infallability of Peer Review.

their work was later proven correct and actually modified in later peer-reviewed journals. in this day and age, it's ethical for one to have their work reviewed for clarity and credibility. again u are waisting my time here. u have no evidence to back ur statement that God came from nowhere nor can u argue against evolution effectively. where was the mugu that said no new bacteria or virus exists??

For example, the 1st Law of Thermodynamics was rejected at certain peer reviews until it was accepted at other, yet does it mean that the first law of thermodynamics was wrong while it was being rejected, ABSOLUTELY NOPE!

wrong the ist law of thermodynamics has been accepted by the consensus of scientists. guess why?? because the ist law was proven in a laboratory thereby forcing the scientists against it to accept. albert einstein was forced to admit quantum mechanics was real after seeing some proof. I'm asking for proof of where God comes from or what is God and all u give me his abstract gibberish such as God is "infinite" and independent of time. why did u waste the time of KAG and I knowing damn well u had no credible sources??

You should have asked where did devil come from if you really want to be possessed. As already implied get real

u Christians on nairaland are similar to the Muslims u hate. rather than declaring fatwahs, u call me a devil and claim am possessed. the defensive tactics no go work lai lai.

If you insist to get proof that GOD does not exist - then is because your alive - that's my parameter for which you can test the existence of God.

god exists because u are alive. u are alive because God exists. that people is what i call circular reasoning used by Christians. they have no proof of their own so they challenge others for proof

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keep in mind, i asked for peer reviewed studies and not creationist junk

seriously are those what u consider credible sources. would u honestly walk into a conference among scientists with answersingensis.org as reference material??

carbon dating isn't exact but it's accurate enough. the margin of error in carbon dating is pretty slim. carbon dating is efficient when compared with other dating techniques.

# Creationists who use this claim fail to note that the snails lived in an environment that did not have access to atmospheric C14 (a pool formed from a limestone sinkhole). The C14 that the snails did have access to was dissolved out of the limestone, itself, and as a result, was "old" C14.
# The scientist didn't measure the living snails themselves. He measured their shells. The whole point is that the process through which the mollusks builds its shell (taking carbon from the water it lives in and NOT the atmosphere) doesn't "reset" the C14 "timer".

snails usually living underwater or as marine life. carbon dating isn't recommended for marine organism. my links already said that. try again buddy.

the burden of proof is bound on the proponents of a new idea to show that it's true. the job of the atheist is to attack the shoddy beliefs of theists. the only proof theists have is "faith". how do u bring up physical evidence against "faith" especially involving an abstract entity. what are the parameters for which we can test the existence of God??. if so, bring it on. the tables have been turned brother.

The convincing proof that GOD exist is that you have your eyes to see. whereas the convincing proof that God did not exist for you is that he allow you to be alive

circular argument.

[url]http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~shagin/logfal-pbc-circular.htm[/url]

you repeat the same arguments without any justification

This is hardly the proof I am looking for. Please try again. I am far from being convinced that God does not exist.

i'm not convinced the boogie man exists either. do we call it a stalemate?? again why was god the son praying to god the father. god praying to god??

Now you are dodging. Give me a convincing proof, complete with references, bibliography and physical evidence.

God is an abstract entity because there is no trace of him other than hallucination by theists like u involving the abrahamaic god. how would there be physical evidence if u Christians claim he is "infinite" and a spirit?? doesn't it sound dumb to ask for such evidence

There can only be one God, creator of the universe.

in that case, God must have multiple personality disorder. why was God the son, jesus praying to God the father then. an entity praying to itself seems perplexing. pls don't dodge my questions

Please give us a convincing proof that God does not exist.

u are the one claiming i need to love and have faith in the boogie man not me. it's ur job to proof the existence of God since man isn't born with a knowledge of God(he is beyond our comprehension right). it was the job of isaac newton to proof the effectiveness of calculus not the other way around.

Nature of God, GOD IS A SPIRIT ,

are god the father and god the son spirits too. is the God the holy spirit left out or what??


NO AGE, GOD created time space and matter and is not bound by time space and matter, so asking the question of age is kind of out of place.

the question is how are u SURE got created time space and matter. this seems like a gross assumption.

Peer Review, interesting,

it's not that interesting, it's a simple question. pls show a peer reviewed journal that challenges carbon dating or evolution. put up or shutup

You mentioned , that absolute dating is done via radioactive decay, (Wow, is it the same radio active decay methods that have been found to be inaccurate once we use them to measure a specimen of known age.)

what peer reviewed scientific journal has stated this i command u to show one.



Radio-carbon dating is a method of obtaining age estimates on organic materials. It has been used to date samples as old as 50,000 years. The method was developed immediately following World War II by Willard F. Libby and coworkers, and has provided age determinations in archaeology, geology, geophysics and other branches of science. Radiocarbon determinations can be obtained on wood; charcoal; marine and fresh-water shell; bone and antler; peat and organic-bearing sediments, carbonate deposits such as tufa, caliche, and marl; and dissolved carbon dioxide and carbonates in ocean, lake and ground-water sources.

Each sample type has specific problems associated with its use for dating purposes, including contamination and special environmental effects. While the impact of radiocarbon dating has been most profound in archaeological research and particularly in prehistoric studies, extremely significant contributions have also been made in hydrology and oceanography. In addition, in the 1950s the testing of thermonuclear weapons injected large amounts of artificial radiocarbon ("Radiocarbon Bomb" into the atmosphere, permitting it to be used as a geochemical tracer.

Radioactive carbon, produced when nitrogen 14 is bombarded by cosmic rays in the atmosphere, drifts down to earth and is absorbed from the air by plants. Animals eat the plants and take C14 into their bodies. Humans in turn take carbon 14 into their bodies by eating both plants and animals. When a living organism dies, it stops absorbing C14 and the C14 that is already in the object begins to disintegrate. Scientists can use this fact to measure how much C14 has disintegrated and how much is left in the object. Carbon 14 decays at a slow but steady rate and reverts to nitrogen 14. The rate at which Carbon decays (Half-life) is known: C14 has a half-life of 5730 years. Basically this means that half of the original amount of C14 in organic matter will have disintegrated 5730 years after the organisms death; half of the remaining C14 will have disintegrated after another 5730 years and so forth. After about 50,000 years, the amount of C14 remaining will be so small that the fossil can't be dated reliably.

To discover how long an organism has been dead (to determine how much C14 is left in the organism and therefore how old it is), we count the number of beta radiations given off per minute per gram of material. Modern C14 emits about 15 beta radiations per minute per gram of material, but C14 that is 5730 years old will only emit half that amount, (the half-life of C14) per minute. So if a sample taken from an organism emits 7.5 radiations per minute in a gram of material, then the organism must be 5730 years old. The accuracy of radiocoarbon dating was tested on objects with dates that were already known through historical records such as parts of the dead sea scrolls and some wood from an Egyptian tomb. Based on the results of the Carbon 14 test the analysis showed that C14 agreed very closely with the historical information.


Hypothesis , is an unproving statement of how things might have happened.

pritchard made an hypothesis then showed empirical evidence to support his hypothesis. i see u used style to avoid the other links.


yet the hypothesis is taking and believed as if it is law, so much so that other people are now also building their own understanding on the assumption that the hypothesis is true.

if it was considered law, universities wouldn't be given billions of dollars to continue research on it. where are the Credible sources for ur argument. i could give u more links if u want??


Those who have not sought God via the independent route have indeed found Him

can u explain ur personal relationship with God, how does he communicate with u since he doesn't speak english.

if matter has always existed then what u said about evolution theory contradicts it evolution theory deals with how living things transform since matter exist as a living thing

matter is both living and non-living things. a piece of God is matter but it isn't living. do i need to simplify my language here??


now since u are made up of energy, so can u transform from your present state as man to another creature? thus supporting what u said?

no mutations in humans don't happen in milliseconds. we would see how the earth looks a million years from now. the dna am born with determines my form as a human.

why r u saying we should ask the biologist about evolution and not evolution theory

i never said that, evolution theory includes the study of evolution. they are not mutually independent. where do u get these assumptions from??


have u ever had a ball? which i believe u have. now u accept that that ball was not created by anyone but there was a big bang and voila here is the ball abi?

what are u talking about?? this is a topic about evolution and creation not about manufacturing balls. maybe u should ask a factory worker about that.


There're more important things in life than worryin over the origin of God. One of the few questions no one can answer.

what's the point of worshiping a being u have no clue about that?? why are Christians trying so hard to avoid the question by given ambiguous answers. i could twist that argument and claim there are more things more important in life than worrying about evolution. does that make sense??

no "Someone" or "something" must have created matter!!

cheers!!!

great, now can u explain how this "thing" came into existence.

I suggest you spend some time in the hospitals. Visit the terminally sick and the mortuaries. You seem to be living in an ivory tower.

sick people need medical help not an imaginary God

There has been no change in the genetic make up of the dead humans, and there has been no genetic change in the make up of the low altitude humans , as such to assume that adaptation via already present genetic information, is evolution , is downright deceptful.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=283548
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=386617

the journal of science disagrees with u.

As populist politicians—and the neocreationists who love them—continue to challenge the teaching of evolution in public schools, scientists at the University of Chicago have found evidence that not only indicates that the human genome is a product of evolution, but also suggests it's actually still undergoing evolutionary change.

The researchers identified hundreds of areas of the human genome that appear to have been positively selected over the past 10,000 years but have not yet reached "fixation"—the point where they are shared in the same form by all members of a population. The study, published in the online journal PLoS Biology, confirms that evolutionary mechanisms have continued to operate on humans in the relatively recent past.
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Some examples of the favored gene regions are areas known to affect skin pigmentation, help the body resist malarial infection and aid in metabolizing carbohydrates and digesting the lactose in milk. The scientists speculate that these genes were favored because they helped humans adapt to different regional challenges as they spread out of Africa, a migration that first began about 100,000 years ago.

"Each of these kinds of changes likely resulted in powerful selective pressures for new genotypes that were better suited to the novel environments," the team wrote in their paper.

The researchers looked at genetic data from a sample of 209 people, drawn from three genetically distinct populations: East Asia, Africa and Europe. They found that in each group, different sets of genes had been selected for, with only 20% of the total number of favored genes overlapping across all three.

"We're identifying genetic variances that produce some kind of phenotypic change," said Jonathan Pritchard, a geneticist at the University of Chicago and the lead author of the study. "They must be fairly important to have been selected for."

According to Pritchard, the shift from hunter-gatherer societies to farming and herding communities may have been the most powerful force causing selection in people's genes. Where animal husbandry was common, genes allowing adults to digest lactose conferred an advantage on carriers. Humans with this adaptation are unusual among mammals in general, most of which lose their ability to process lactose after they reach maturity.

Besides forcing humans to digest new types of foods, farming and herding also caused them to live closer together, Pritchard said, increasing the risk of epidemic and therefore the benefits of genetic resistance to disease.

"Increased population density promoted the spread of infectious diseases, as did the new proximity of farmers to animal pathogens," the scientists wrote in their paper.

The difference in skin pigmentation is also thought to have arisen in our recent evolutionary past. Pritchard hypothesized that as human populations moved north from Africa and the Middle East, paler skin became preferable because it allowed people to produce vitamin D where there was less exposure to the sun.

Pritchard acknowledges the anthropological significance of his study, but he's more interested in its present day medical applications. More information on what exactly these recent, positively selected genes do would help improve doctors' understanding of the human body.

"There are medical implications to understanding the genome and identifying genetic variance that produces some kind of phenotypic change," said Pritchard. "We're creating a catalog of these genes, but now they need to be examined more closely to learn what their consequences are."

http://seedmagazine.com/news/2006/03/human_genome_still_evolving.php
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/15/AR2005121501728.html

We have explained that your dating methods an not correct so who did you arrive at the notion that termites and insects were 6 feet millions of years ago.

lies again.

Dating in geology may be relative or absolute. Relative dating is done by observing fossils, as described above, and recording which fossil is younger, which is older. The discovery of means for absolute dating in the early 1900s was a huge advance. The methods are all based on radioactive decay:

* Certain naturally occurring elements are radioactive, and they decay, or break down, at predictable rates.
* Chemists measure the half-life of such elements, i.e., the time it takes for half of the radioactive parent element to break down to the stable daughter element. Sometimes, one isotope, or naturally occurring form, of an element decays into another, more stable form of the same element.
* By comparing the proportions of parent to daughter element in a rock sample, and knowing the half-life, the age can be calculated.


Older fossils cannot be dated by carbon-14 methods and require radiometric dating. Scientists can use different chemicals for absolute dating:

* The best-known absolute dating technique is carbon-14 dating, which archaeologists prefer to use. However, the half-life of carbon-14 is only 5730 years, so the method cannot be used for materials older than about 70,000 years.
* Radiometric dating involves the use of isotope series, such as rubidium/strontium, thorium/lead, potassium/argon, argon/argon, or uranium/lead, all of which have very long half-lives, ranging from 0.7 to 48.6 billion years. Subtle differences in the relative proportions of the two isotopes can give good dates for rocks of any age.

Scientists can check their accuracy by using different isotopes.
The first radiometric dates, generated about 1920, showed that the Earth was hundreds of millions, or billions, of years old. Since then, geologists have made many tens of thousands of radiometric age determinations, and they have refined the earlier estimates. A key point is that it is no longer necessary simply to accept one chemical determination of a rock's age. Age estimates can be cross-tested by using different isotope pairs. Results from different techniques, often measured in rival labs, continually confirm each other.
There is only a 1% chance of error with current dating technology. Every few years, new geologic time scales are published, providing the latest dates for major time lines. Older dates may change by a few million years up and down, but younger dates are stable. For example, it has been known since the 1960s that the famous Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary, the line marking the end of the dinosaurs, was 65 million years old. Repeated recalibrations and retests, using ever more sophisticated techniques and equipment, cannot shift that date. It is accurate to within a few thousand years. With modern, extremely precise, methods, error bars are often only1% or so.

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/benton.html

You can ask your Father about His nature anytime you want. But you cannot expect Him to answer in the way you dictate. 26 letters of the alphabet are not sufficient for God to communicate with.

the mandarin language has more letters, maybe your infinite God and communicate with us in mandarin. u keep on saying love and faith. but u haven't stated the need for having faith in the unknown that has done little to help mankind

When you approach God with love and faith, you are rising to His level. Thus you can have mystical experiences, radiate love and warmth, and leave the earth a better place than you met it.

what mystical experiences have u had?? the only mystical experiences i have are dreaming about halle berry at night. why have faith in an unknown entity. we are children of God right, then why can't i ask my father about his nature

Now u say matter has always existed abi? and u went ahead to state that evolution is when an objects transforms itself abi?

Question: from what u have said it implies matter has not always been existing cause it must have transformed from "something". Now what is that something? that is what i want you to answer.

yes matter has always existed and continues to react. we wouldn't have volcanoes or tornadoes if matter was unable to react. i never said matter transformed FROM something, i said energy is transformed from ONE form to energy. do i have to state the ist and 2nd laws of thermodynamics to make myself clearer??

now what are you saying that the two are not same? it seems u are the one that don't understand it.

i never said the two aren't' the same. are u making up accusations to divert the main topic. how did God come into existence and create the earth.

even God exist earths geography can prove He exist

how does the earth geography prove God exists. what scientific research has been done to prove this. big bang theorist have UV rays from stars, planets, and elements/compounds in the earth's core to say a collision happened. what do u theists have?

do u have some one that has documented during matter reacting??

chemical and physical reactions leave reaction, ur God created the earth using abracadabra. it's ur job to prove God is capable of this magic.

i would either reincarnate or transform into another energy form when i die. i should be able to see and feel your God if it's omnipresent.

Any being that can fit into your finite intelligence is not the Infinite God. Mark my words.

i'm sorry, then how are u able to worship and comprehend the existence of a God that is infinite. how do u understand the commands of the unknown and unseen?? on one hand, theists have every explanation for God, omnipotent, omnipresence blah blah blah but they somehow claim infinity when they have no answers for simple questions.

in matters of science, , a court rulling is irrelevant, in the determination of what is actually scientifically true.

you are right, in science, PEER REVIEWED STUDIES that support evolution are more important than court ruling. how many internationally recognized science journals disprove evolution

there's evidence to support to support macro-evolution. there's fossils of termites and insects that were as long as 6feet millions of years ago, now termites are tiny compared to humans. macro-evolution can be seen in ur brain size. why are people threatened by evolution??

well thank God he is real

God is real because u were socialized to think he is real. in sociological experiments, kids allowed to think independently, don't see the need or feel a GOD. i still haven't' gotten u guys to explain ur personal relationship with the man upstairs

Carl's work tackles the very real problem of the evolution of antibiotic resistance by bacterial populations in hospitals. Antibiotics, such as penicillin, are drugs that kill or prevent the growth of bacteria. When antibiotics were first discovered, they seemed to represent a miracle cure for human diseases like pneumonia, typhoid, bubonic plague, and gonorrhea. However, almost immediately after the introduction of antibiotics, bacteria began to up the stakes — resistant strains of bacteria soon evolved that could grow even in the presence of a particular antibiotic, rendering our drugs ineffective in battling these resistant infections.


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Resisting our drugs
Carl's work tackles the very real problem of the evolution of antibiotic resistance by bacterial populations in hospitals. Antibiotics, such as penicillin, are drugs that kill or prevent the growth of bacteria. When antibiotics were first discovered, they seemed to represent a miracle cure for human diseases like pneumonia, typhoid, bubonic plague, and gonorrhea. However, almost immediately after the introduction of antibiotics, bacteria began to up the stakes — resistant strains of bacteria soon evolved that could grow even in the presence of a particular antibiotic, rendering our drugs ineffective in battling these resistant infections.

Amount of Enterococcus bacteria in U.S. hospital intensive care resistant to the antibiotic Vancomycin
bacteria and antibiotics
The problem is much like running on a treadmill — medical researchers must sweat just to stay in the same place in their race against the bacteria. Drug companies develop and introduce a new antibiotic, only to see the evolution of resistant bacterial strains within a few years. This necessitates the development of yet another antibiotic, which, in turn, becomes useless in the face of newly evolved resistant bacteria.

The cycle of drug development and the evolution of resistance is a costly one, both in terms of mortality and economics. Over one million resistant infections are acquired each year in U.S. hospitals at an estimated financial cost of 4-5 billion dollars (not to mention increased mortality)! And because they are harder to treat than susceptible infections, antibiotic resistant infections cause more days of hospitalization and missed work. Various sources estimate that in the U.S., we experience 400,000 additional days of diarrhea due to bacterial infections resistant to a single antibiotic alone and more than 8000 additional days of hospitalization due to resistant salmonella strains.

How exactly does antibiotic resistance evolve? How have such small and simple organisms managed to repeatedly outpace our drugs? The process is quite simply evolution by natural selection. Imagine a population of bacteria infecting a patient in a hospital. The patient is treated with an antibiotic. The drug kills most of the bacteria but there are a few individual bacteria that happen to carry a gene that allows them to survive the onslaught of antibiotic. These survivors reproduce, passing on the gene for resistance to their offspring, and soon the patient is populated by an antibiotic resistant infection — one that not only affects the original patient but that can also be passed on to other patients in the hospital.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/_0_0/bergstrom_03

who should we believe, a biologists from university of california. now that we have show proof, why don't theists show some proof of God existence or characteristics.

If you want to have a conversation with him, you have to believe first

no i'm asking folks like u who have had a conversation with God, how was the conversation. was God touching u, whispering in ur head. how did u recognize the voice of God from an hallucination??


I would like to know the historians and the basis of their claims.
How do we confirm that the big bang happened? do u have video, tapes, writings?

no i asked u for the confirmation, stop dodging it. the coffin of jesus claimed to have been found was determined to be a hoax, christianity today has been determined to be a combination of Greek,roman and Egyptian pagan religions. as per the big bang, there are evidence deep in the earth's crater that show a massive collision between planetary bodies happens millions of years ago. the big band is a theory still being modified the more we understand the universe.

We cannot all be arguing so heatedly about God unless He truly exists.

we actually can arguing about something that doesn't exist. mathematics argue about imaginary numbers and set theory everyday. does that mean the square root of -1 is a real number??

from what i understand it shows that u are not sure whether matter existed.


we wouldn't be having this debate if we were SURE. the truth is science is looking for a credible explanation but the universe is so vast to study. ur religion gives an ASSUMPTION that God created the universe. so who created God and how did God come into existence.


Q. from what did matter and energy come from?

matter and energy didn't come from anywhere if they have had ALWAYS existed.

then who were the witness when according to evolution theory, the earth formed out of disk of gas and dust.?

evolution theory has nothing to do with creation. evolution theory deals with how living things transform and not how living things were created. go ask physicists about creation, while the biologists deal with evolution. u guys seem to have little clue about what u talk about

where they there when it was formed or it was just assumed to be??

the earth was formed from a collision and the reaction of matter. how exactly, we don't know. there's evidence in the earths geography to support this. is there evidence that some boogie man created the earth in 7days??

Galileo was isolated because his science did not tally with the popular opinion

galileo was isolated by the catholic church not his fellow scientists. again religion lags behind science.


Quite simply, God has no beginning and no end. So, where did God come from? He didn't. He always was.

my question is did God say those exact words to u?? did he whisper it to ur ear or where u reading a bible that written by fellow humans and is known to have many errors. the bible says keeping slaves is fine as long as u treat them decently. in other words, slavery is cool then right??

In fact, God created matter. He created the universe

it's not a fact, if there's no evidence to back such statement. an ifa priest could claim his oduduwa theory as fact then right.??

why avoid the comment about souls and spirit but somehow u claim his post is scientifically accurate. again, this is the first step to creating a synthetic organism and artificial life. this is a scientific breakthrough.

Why is there a sense of who God is in diverse ethnicities?

mostly do millitary conquest and inability to explain things considered supernatural. there are actually a few agnostics societies. buddhism is a religion that is considered atheists at times, since buddhist pay homage to their ancestors and not GOD. i repeat again, where did this God come from and how can i have a conversation with he/she/it. if God is a spirit, have u seen it??

John Chapter 1 verse 1-4 says:

1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2: The same was in the beginning with God.
3: All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4: In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

this is a circular argument. u are using bible passages to proof a concept that originated from the bible?? what independent accounts PROOF that without God there wouldn't be existence??

there is nothing scientifically accurate about a soul or a spirit. according to such theory, plans wouldn't be considered living things since they bear no soul or spirit.

how do i differentiate the voice of God from that of an human.

How would you explain that fresh lava/rock from a volcanic activity was dated and yet gave a result as if it has existed foer thousands or millions of years.

what's ur source for this?? why would one need to date a lava rock if it had already been considered "fresh".  the rocks studied are usually the ones deep in the earth core or volcanic rocks decomposed for millions of years in the sahara. u seem to be making up scenarios and avoid the main question. how did God come into existence. why worship something u can't seem to explain.  this comes to my main point. religion is based on faith in the unknown, while science is based on proving and explaining the unknown.

Even without big bang (cosmis evolution) there would be no biologic evolution, and yet without the prior existence of matter/energy bigbang is not possible.

lots of theory states that matter and energy have always existed. matter reacted to form the first forms of life which were unicellular organisms. they then evolved into what we have today.

There is no historian on this earth that can claim that the events that led to our belief in God did not take place they happened and most importantly that Christ walked the earth and he performed miracles and he said the things he said.

no missy, i'm talking about the theory of Genesis which has been disproved repeatedly. the bible is not historically accurate either.    there are many historians that would argue against the existence of jesus christ. how do we confirm the miracles do u have video, tapes, writings??


Logically and with the backing of history u cannot prove that God doesn't exist.

u are right,  using logic u can't proof God exist nor can u proof God doesn't exists. it's all "theory" that can't be confirmed.   can someone pls explain their personal relationship with God, how does he/she/it talk to u and why doesn't he/she/it tell u where it came from or how it came to being.


if anyone can SINCERELY look at nature (the impressive sun, the planets, the sea, the fishes, atoms, etc etc) and still claim that there is no God, there must be something blinding that person.

unlike u, i believe nature is controlled by the laws of physics and dynamics.  energy and matter is transformed from one form to another. always conserved and never destroyed.  the earth and the universe is made of matter. the intelligent creation theory is nothing but religious lunacy.

all i know is that God is a spirit

how do u know that God is a spirit, as God appeared to tell u he/she/it is a spirit.  i doubt u'd find a need for a God if ur parents didn't force u to read a bible.  if GOd is a spirit and made us in "his" own likeness then why aren't we spirits

If the evolution of man is a mystery (that has NO proof), then how are you able to write it down in textbooks and teach your kids such bull?

this is wrong, there is proof of evolution everywhere, bacteria and viruses evolve at a rapid rate.  humans have evolved over time in brain size and other features. there's fossil and anthropological records to proof. animals like the komodo dragon are proof of evolution.  where's ur proof of God and the garden of eden??


Science can always explain anything . . . they just have a problem proving that their explanation is indeed correct.

science is right when it comes to evolution, the answers are in fossils, caves once dwelled by humans, and our dna compared to that of other animals.  only ignorant people deny our ancestral link to apes. read about the bonobo.

neither has creationism been completely shut down. Until science can accurately demonstrate that their "theories" are correct then i still have a basis to hold on to creationism.

creationism has consistently being shut down by the US supreme court in repeated rulings.  creationism is considered pseudo-science among many intellectuals.

Evolution requires faith, because you expect people to believe things that hav no evidence whatsoever.

evolution doesn't require faith in a boogie man, evolution requires research. that's why missing links in the evolutionary chain continue to be filled to this day. do u think the dinosaur fossils found in niger republic are for entertainment??  according to the bible, the earth is supposed to be 6000yr old, evolution and research proves that is wrong. i recommend discovery and history channel

And please don't start me going on the lie that evolution is science, evolution is not science simply because it does not give any prove or scientific evidence that can be tested any where else,

evolution is tested in numerous labs using bacteria, fungi and viruses. the increasing resistance of virus to certain medication are signs of evolution.  

The earth's magnetic field is decreasing gradually at rate that if the earth were to be billions of years old, the early magnetic field would have been too strong for life.

humanity is millions of years old, not billions.

The is not one evidence showing how life could have came from nonliving materials to living things.

actually that would be reality soon due to work of many bioresearches, a bacterial genome was recently created from elements, in a couple of decades or so, artificial life would be created.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3257051.ece

artificial life is a possibility.

one question by the way,  how did GOD create the whole universe, and how did God come into existence.

QUESTION: WERE DID YOU COME FROM TO THIS EARTH. And if you cannot tell us then there is no need believing in you. I quote you again

i came from my mothers womb after my father impregnated her. i'm reality, u can see, touch and feel me.


how did the earth come into existence?

u are the one that claims GOd exists, the burden of PROOF is on u. all i know, is that the earth is made of matter. matter may have always existed through eternity for all we know.


God's existance is a MYSTERY that we will NEVER EVER know! so guy, leave it alone before you commit! if you can ask that smart question, I'm sure you can start a thread with other smart topic but please leave this one cux no ONE, no ANGEL, or SPIRIT both in heaven or earth can answer your question.

if GOd existence is a mystery, then how are u able to worship him or have a personal relationship with him. it's pretty hard to have a relationship with an unknown entity don't u think?? why can't the angel explain GOD's existence if they are always with him in heaven??

In the begining God created

the theory of Genesis has been shut down repeatedly. what do u think about evolution. did God start evolution??

God is existence Grin

Now ask your self where does existence come from? Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

so how do u PROOF God is existence. is existence timeless?? why can't we just say the galaxy has always existed without claiming some God created it

if there's no answer to the question, why believe in something u have no clue about. how did God come into existence