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Politics › Re: Abdul Mutallab's Online Posts! by Beaf: 3:01pm On Dec 30, 2009
proudly9ja:
From the posts if they were really posted by him, I feel sorry for him. He seems to me as a very religious muslim. Now I am a christian but I have friends who are muslims and who are very religious. Unfortunately for him, he prolly didn't get the kind of support he needed from his family. His father being who he is (societal wise) and considering he had 15 other children to take care of, would probably not have had enough time for him. Now I don't know how many kids his mother has out of the 16 but from the experience that I have, most times when the father fails in providing that care, its the mother's position to provide. While I will not blame her because I do not have full information, this 'story' should serve as a lesson for most - create time for your children!

Questions that should be asked are -

1. what was the relationship with both his parents?

2. could the boy discuss anything with his dad or mum?

3. who were his close friends i.e. from whom did he turn to if he didn't get the right answers to his questions?


The posts above were made in 2005 when the boy was 18/19, a very important period for most males. Most of the time, its the age one gets into Uni and you form who you will be in future. He made his own decisions at that time and there was no guidance from what I see. Most people turn to drugs, alcohol, form bad gangs, etc. He simply became an extremist.

One should note that these are the kind of people terrorists simply look for vulnurable people like Umar. Children who can't think and are 'lonely' and need friendship. They teach them from the quaran so it seems they are also religious and when the child is ready, they send him on a suicide mission. Most of the time, this period takes only about 6 months. Short enough for the child to be fired up and ready for 'battle'.

Poor boy but he will have to suffer for the consequencies of his actions.
We will soon get the full, unadulterated gist. My interpretation of the reason he is singing like a canary to the US authorities is that, in his twisted way, he might have been trying to get at those who left him to fend for himself. The whole story of his loneliness and perhaps emotional neglect from his parents will spill like a damn bursting. Let us wait and see.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Signs Budget From Sickbed by Beaf: 3:26am On Dec 30, 2009
That signature was conjured in jankara, solidified in okija and blessed by Helen Ukpabio.
All na film trick! angry

Nonsense!
Politics › Re: Breaking News: America Orders Its Citizens To Leave Northern Nigeria by Beaf: 3:13am On Dec 30, 2009
One thing is certain though. There must be a US build up for eventualities in Nigeria (Vision 2015 embarassed). It isn't in anybodys interest for conflict or serious unrest to break out in Nigeria; we are 140 million potential refugee's waiting to sink West and Central Africa with our influx.
Politics › Re: Breaking News: America Orders Its Citizens To Leave Northern Nigeria by Beaf: 2:58am On Dec 30, 2009
Why do I think this is a hoax? embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed
Politics › Re: Breaking News: America Orders Its Citizens To Leave Northern Nigeria by Beaf: 2:55am On Dec 30, 2009
Kobojunkie:
No, seriously, we are just a couple of hours from a brand new year. How about you take a gander at IMPROVING your contributions on here? You don't have to be perfect but I get the impression sometimes that you are just out here( in politics section) to paint an image of woman being just airheads and floozies, nothing more. This is an interesting topic here, and I hope we get into it with some good contributions from all sides, not have it ruined even before it starts. Happy new year in advance! smiley
Sharap! Look in the mirror.
Politics › Re: Abdul Mutallab's Online Posts! by Beaf: 2:52am On Dec 30, 2009
Sagamite:
Dimwit, his parents are not responsible for and were not in support of his plan to blow up a plane as you try to insinuate.

Use your brain before making such insinuations.

Openning an Islamic bank is a commercial opportunity exploiting a gap in the market and a religious fulfilment not a sharia or terrorist act as your dumb arse keeps on stating.
How can one reason with an almajiri? You're sounding like a scratched record now.

"I have no one to speak too [sic]," read a posting from January 2005, when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was attending boarding school. "No one to consult, no one to support me and I feel depressed and lonely. I do not know what to do. And then I think this loneliness leads me to other problems."
. . .How much does it take to get new panties from Yemen?
I'm sure thats how you were brought up as well, because here you are blowing yourself to bits.
You really turned out wrong, boy.
Politics › Re: Breaking News: America Orders Its Citizens To Leave Northern Nigeria by Beaf: 2:46am On Dec 30, 2009
Politics › Re: Abdul Mutallab's Online Posts! by Beaf: 2:27am On Dec 30, 2009
Sagamite:
Dimwit My role model, just don't be making silly obvious insinuations.
Am I making you look bad?

"I have no one to speak too [sic]," read a posting from January 2005, when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was attending boarding school. "No one to consult, no one to support me and I feel depressed and lonely. I do not know what to do. And then I think this loneliness leads me to other problems."
What do you call someone who can't understand the heart rending cry for help above? Fill in the blanks, fo_l. shocked

. . .How much does it take to get new panties from Yemen?

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Politics › Re: Abdul Mutallab's Online Posts! by Beaf: 1:59am On Dec 30, 2009
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Thanks.
Politics › Re: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab: This Is His Photo by Beaf(op): 1:58am On Dec 30, 2009
FL Gators:
I still dont understand how a rich boy like this can be caught wearing something nasty like this grin grin grin

https://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/abc_a_PETN_underwear_091228_mn.jpg
No, that owunyon was given to him by carmel herders and marabouts in Yemen. . . Fairly used. grin
Politics › Re: Abdul Mutallab's Online Posts! by Beaf: 1:53am On Dec 30, 2009
Sagamite:
Dimwit, and they did realise something was wrong, hence they tried to reign him in.

And when they could not and he disappeared, it was out of their control and they informed both local and international authorities.

But in your warped brain, you have come to the conclusion (from your "evidence"wink that they were hoping he blew himself up.
They reined him in years after he had deviated and was taken solace, not from an absent family, but the World Wide Web. I'm sure thats how you were brought up as well, because here you are blowing yourself to bits.
You really turned out wrong, boy.
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Politics › Re: Yar’adua Not With Us - Saudi Hospital by Beaf: 1:44am On Dec 30, 2009
. . .The saga continues. angry huh
Politics › Re: MEND's Press Release On The Bombing Incidence Could Cause More Collateral Damage by Beaf: 1:40am On Dec 30, 2009
[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=372380.msg5213007#msg5213007 date=1262132584]. . .
By the way, who the heck is named Oniovo, what an ugly name.  smiley[/quote]Damn!
You have expressed the exact reason why the young Mutallab went grossly wrong. grin
Politics › Re: Abdul Mutallab's Online Posts! by Beaf: 1:34am On Dec 30, 2009
Sagamite:
Dimwit, and this makes the parents responsible for him trying to blow up others?

Do all lonely children do that? Or even does a fraction of them do it?

Mo-ron, he is fully responsible for HIS actions as he chose the kind of islam he wants to practice.

Dimwit, his father has 16 children and he is the only one that turned out that way. That says something about HIS personality.

Use your brain.
If only you had read the one word in what I wrote that you have somehow missed, "psyche". . . Your short comings? grin
It is every parents job to realise something is not right with their kids psyche.

I'm not surprised you can't understand though, you seem to have turned out wrong. . . Pics? grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Abdul Mutallab's Online Posts! by Beaf: 1:05am On Dec 30, 2009
Sagamite:
Dumbo, failing (if you can call it that) in the upbringing does not mean the parents are responsible or to blame for terrorist attack.

Do all kids that do not get adequate upbringing feeling go out and try and kill as many people as possible?

What makes you think the kid might not have some depressive disorder that has not been diagnosed? Is that the parents fault?

Blame the boy for his actions and not the parents.
Fo.ol, there is something called a psyche.
It is a parents duty nuture their kids, mind and body. That boy cried out about his loneliness, not to his family, but to ears on the World Wide Web.

"I have no one to speak too [sic]," read a posting from January 2005, when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was attending boarding school. "No one to consult, no one to support me and I feel depressed and lonely. I do not know what to do. And then I think this loneliness leads me to other problems."
Lagosboy:
People blaming his parents are just frustrated envious folks who wished they had access to such parental care and financial well that would have sent them to the best schools.

It is only in Nigeria a thief steals and his whole family is arrested. Police mentality i used to think belonged to the men in black, NL has enlightened my mind to the fact that it is a deep rooted culture in some Nigerians intellect and mind.
shocked shocked shocked
Funny guy. Does that sound like logic?
Politics › Re: Abdul Mutallab's Online Posts! by Beaf: 11:25pm On Dec 29, 2009
I posted this elsewhere, but it suits this thread as well;

The family is to blame, they failed at bringing up their child. The heartbreaking depth of loneliness in his writings, speaks of a family that was never there for him. Perhaps, they threw money at him, instead of love.

Sometimes drug barons become drug addicts. The drugs are meant for others, but they take a test and. . . Gbosa! They are hooked.
The boys dad is one of those pushing a religious agenda in Nigeria, his son got caught in religious bu.llshit. Who do you blame?
His father, Dr Mutallab, is a sharia supporter who is also at the head of Nigeria's first Islamic bank.

"The apple does not fall far from the tree".
Young men usually turn to their dads for counselling, not the World Wide Web.
Politics › Re: Do You Think Umar's Attempt To Bomb A Plane Is A Result Of His Upbringing by Beaf: 11:21pm On Dec 29, 2009
The family is to blame, they failed at bringing up their child. The heartbreaking depth of loneliness in his writings, speaks of a family that was never there for him. Perhaps, they threw money at him, instead of love.

Sometimes drug barons become drug addicts. The drugs are meant for others, but they take a test and. . . Gbosa! They are hooked.
The boys dad is one of those pushing a religious agenda in Nigeria, his son got caught in religious bu.llshit. Who do you blame?
His father, Dr Mutallab, is a sharia supporter who is also at the head of Nigeria's first Islamic bank.

"The apple does not fall far from the tree".
Politics › Re: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab: This Is His Photo by Beaf(op): 10:06pm On Dec 29, 2009
esonic:
Inasmuch as i dont want to believe it cos i ve got  a lot of muslim friends who are excellent pple, but, i just dont understand, are all muslims radicalizable, ?
Anybody that is a deep believer can do anything, whether they are Christian, Muslim, Buddist etc. Psychiatrists will tell you that an inclinination to religion could be an expression of a mental problem; it is one of the warning signs.

As young as Mutallab is, he has a prayer mark on his forehead shocked.
I used to have a good friend like that once, same mark on his forehead from constant praying (his nickname was alfa). We were good friends until one day while chatting; he made it plain that he would kill any non-believer, if the religious need arose, no matter how close they were to him.

Joke na joke! I withdrew from him for my own safety. Being over religious is a sign of madness.
Politics › Re: AbdulMutallab: Web Posts Suggest Lonely, Depressed Terror Suspect (New Photo) by Beaf: 8:53pm On Dec 29, 2009
His dad was too busy pursuing money and power to fill the void in sons heart. Boys want to talk to their fathers.
How could someone so rich be so lonely and wretched inside?
Politics › Re: MEND's Press Release On The Bombing Incidence Could Cause More Collateral Damage by Beaf: 8:39pm On Dec 29, 2009
ndu_chuks is sounding very very desperate.

I wonder why? Yar Adua has been trying this Africom stunt for a long time now, it has not worked. The simple reason is that, it is fo.ols and criminals thinking that they can use the US to do their dirty work and preserve their filthy bunkering lucre (the country losses US$14 billion annually). The very same people are using almajiri, sharia and Boko Haram as political tools, but God don catch de bas.tards.

The scion of a leader of their evil cabal took the war from Katsina to Detroit.
De boy papa na serious mafia member, with cabal connections with everything from the infamous NNDC to the first Islamic bank and every other thing unprogressive in the country.

I laugh in Mutallab. grin grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab: This Is His Photo by Beaf(op): 6:41am On Dec 29, 2009
[quote author=n-guage link=topic=372754.msg5206686#msg5206686 date=1262065045]The distinction between clear judgments and mistakes is thinner than you think. Love, my friend, love all. Stop making excuses, you know the right thing to do.[/quote]I'm beginning to change my mind about the drugs now. embarassed
That eediot should be put in the shredder and fed to crocodiles. What a bas.tard, wanting to kill innocent women, babies and men. Damn!
Politics › Re: What Will You Remember 2009 For? by Beaf(op): 6:35am On Dec 29, 2009
[quote author=THE.AMAKA link=topic=372284.msg5206602#msg5206602 date=1262063388]800?!?!?!?! is that Urhobo style? its not just the immediate family and some relatives but its everyone and their extended family? lol
KAI!!
but who is your first wife?  embarassed[/quote]For miss universe, no crowd is too small. grin
I'm Isoko, mum is Urhobo, so combining 400 each from both sides. . .

Don't worry they will have return tickets, and no Mutallab de my house cool
After the ceremony, na soso love, two helpings after each meal grin grin grin. . . Serenity, warmth, snuggles

She is. . .
Politics › Christmas Holiday Trip: Pressure Mounts On Jonathan To Sack Lukman by Beaf(op): 6:25am On Dec 29, 2009
[size=14pt]Christmas holiday trip: Pressure mounts on Jonathan to sack Lukman[/size]
By Olusola Fabiyi and Gbenga Adeniji, Published: Tuesday, 29 Dec 2009
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Pressure is mounting on Vice-President Goodluck Jonathan to sack the Minister of Petroleum Resources, Dr. Rilwan Lukman, for allegedly flouting an instruction to some ministers not to travel out of the country.

Lukman was reported to have travelled to Vienna, Austria, a day after the V-P‘s instruction was passed down to the ministers not to observe the Christmas holiday due to the lingering fuel crisis in the country.

However, the minister, on Monday, said he took permission from the vice-president before undertaking his journey out of the country.

The Publicity Secretary of the Conference of Nigerian Political Parties, Mr. Osita Okechukwu, in an interview with our correspondent, said Lukman‘s action was a clear disrespect to constituted authorities.

He said that the time had come for Jonathan to assume the position of acting President.

The CNPP said Lukman‘s action was an affront not only to Jonathan, but to all Nigerians, who it said the vice-president represented.

He said, ”The action of the minister was unfortunate. His action represents the thinking of members of President Umaru Yar‘Adua kitchen cabinet, which wants to hold on to power at all cost.

”As far as we are concerned, Lukman as a senior minister, should know that there is going to be more demand for fuel in December as many people are likely going to travel.

”This he did not do. The crisis came and he had no solution until he was compelled by the vice-president to sit at home and find solution to the problem.

”But instead of doing that, he decided to defy the order. What the minister has done is a fragrant disobedience to constituted authority. By now, he ought to have been sacked.”

”All they are after is themselves and their pockets. But time has come for the vice-president to assume office in an acting capacity just as we continue to pray for President Umaru Yar‘Adua.”

National Publicity Secretary of the Action Congress, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, in an interview with one of our correspondents, said the party‘s position was known from the first day.

He said, ”For as long as the vice-president was not formally handed over to, he becomes a bit impotent. Don‘t forget that in some respect, the ministers were appointed by the President. There is no formal transfer of power, so he couldn‘t exercise measure of control over him. What constitutional provision will he be relying on to do that? He is the vice-president as of today because there has been no formal transfer of power to him. It is even quite doubtful if as acting President, Jonathan could fire him (Lukman) without further recourse to Yar‘Adua who may then tell him to go ahead for he has his backing.

”It is not that what Rilwan Lukman did was right. But constitutionally, Jonathan doesn‘t have the constitutional backing to fire him.

This is why we have been saying that the constitution must be amended to the effect that as soon as the President travels abroad on vacation or for medical purpose, the vice-president should be the Acting President.


Clarifying Lukman‘s position, the Group General Manager, Public Affairs Division of the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, Dr. Levi Ajuonuma, who made the clarification in a statement, said Lukman was saddened by the reports and the innuendoes they contained.

”Dr. Lukman is concerned about the recent reports in the media insinuating that he defied the vice-president‘s order banning him from going on break during the Christmas break. He has explained that contrary to the reports, he actually sought and got the vice-president‘s express permission to travel,” Ajuonuma said in a statement.

He quoted the Minister as saying: ”At the end of the last Federal Executive Council meeting in which the vice-president gave the instruction that we should not travel, I intimated him of the urgent need for me to travel to attend to certain pressing official as well as family matters and he gave me approval to travel. I couldn‘t have travelled without the express permission of the vice-president. I have no reason whatsoever to defy the office of the vice-president as is widely reported.”

Ajuonuma urged anyone in doubt to verify from the office of the vice-president, adding that he hoped the clarification would put an end to all the attacks on the person of the minister.

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art2009122912501092
Politics › Re: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab: This Is His Photo by Beaf(op): 6:06am On Dec 29, 2009
[quote author=n-guage link=topic=372754.msg5206583#msg5206583 date=1262063014]I don't get it, you think I'm on drugs?[/quote]No man!
Politics › Re: What Will You Remember 2009 For? by Beaf(op): 6:04am On Dec 29, 2009
^
--Falls down. . . picks heart from floor. . . falls down again. . . wobbles to feet and buys 800 plane tickets from Wafi to USA grin-- tongue
Politics › Re: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab: This Is His Photo by Beaf(op): 6:01am On Dec 29, 2009
[quote author=n-guage link=topic=372754.msg5206561#msg5206561 date=1262062598]So you'll let this one incident stop you from loving? Think about what you'll lose when you let love go, you'll part with joy and absolute inner calm.

I'm not saying terrorists are right, but if we have tried fighting them for years and it's not working, let's try something else. I know the same reactants under the same conditions would always yield the same products. Let's try something else for once, let's try love.[/quote]Yeah, lets try weed too.
Politics › Re: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab: This Is His Photo by Beaf(op): 5:59am On Dec 29, 2009
[quote author=n-guage link=topic=372754.msg5206530#msg5206530 date=1262062097]Even if it wasn't a religious doctrine, it is innate in humans - love and affection for fellow humans. I recognize we don't currently live in an ideal world but I make my own world for me and I follow the teachings of my teacher.[/quote]Whatever, just don't lavish your love on the wrong types.
Instead of loving that criminal, I wish the US will hand him over to area boys in Lagos; they know how to adorn his type with jewelry that "blazes" in the sun. cool
Politics › Re: What Will You Remember 2009 For? by Beaf(op): 5:52am On Dec 29, 2009
[quote author=THE.AMAKA link=topic=372284.msg5206518#msg5206518 date=1262061943]GOLD!!
**maybe even a house on the coast of Accra, Ghana (the gold coast) that sounds lovely**  cool cool cool
wink[/quote]Kai! You just wan finish me! grin
But thank God, Ghana is cheaper than Florida sha.

Please manage this one. The helipad is behind the house, after you pass the garage for the gold plated bentley, but before you get to the orchard. . .
Can I bring my people now? grin

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