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Damn!!
Gaddem!!![/size]

akin23: THIS SHOULD BE GIVEN A GENERAL APPLAUSE FOR THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN RIGHT DIRECTION AND I HOPE ALL OTHER STATES SHOULD COPY THIS MODEL TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF AGBERO/NURTW ONCE FOR ALL. THUMBS UP[color=#000099][/color]

Dude, NURTW in Lagos is a unique specie of animal. They don't exist in anything near that form elsewhere.

CLIQBOY: u no for once get brain..oponu

My guy, NURTW = ACN. Its a law of nature.
Thats why the announcement it is a joke to the wise ones amongst us. They simply want to promote NURTW members to uniform wearers, touting officially for the man with the bulging eyes.

Who knows? The new, improved NURTW might even release a hit song called "We egbe e! Owo mi da?"

OAM4J: ^lol

I guess you see my ghost everything you log on to NL now. Even when spambot and other banned you, na OAM4J

So I hacked into Seun's account to ban you as Seun because I am afraid to let almighty beaf knows am behind his ban?

I hope OAM4J paranoia wont kill you. Anyways I don't need to ask Seun or seek his permission to ban you when you break the rules. I will simply ban you and you will know it's me. So abide by the rules.

Dude, you are the one who is paranoid and prejudiced. Otherwise, you would know how to be reserved as a moderator. What mod would attack an NLer for being pro-GEJ in a way that attracts the "forty laptop" fools (who should be banned for stalking, anyway)? What sort of mod actively encourages stalking?
You obviously think being a mod makes you a god or that banning people forces respect. If anything, it causes disrespect and makes you lose any standing.

Weild your ban in your creatively prejudiced and irresponsible ways, bro. Its your call, I'm done with this argument.
While at it, don't forget to build an alter so I can worship you.

Jokes!
NURTW is a well known arm of ACN.

Ufeolorun: Rampaging secessionists who stumbled into power are using the ogonis as a smoke screen for a bigger machinations.
OBJ and IBB didn't just issue a statement o they are also monitoring
You can't pull the rug of the feet of others and not expect a forceful response.

Lol! Ogoni's who are less than a million pulling "the rug of the feet of others?!"

Comedy!

Everybody should have their own rug.

jaybee:

Lol. where have they gone? foolish comment.

Your comment is the foolish one, bruv. Ogoni minds have obviously left Nigeria.

The real question is; what restructing has Nigeria got to offer to win back those minds? This is pertinent, because almost all in the SE/SS are disgruntled, because the country was designed as a parasite (whereas, we have so many talents and alternate resources to oil).
Nigeria is not in a state of robust health, unfortunately it was deliberately made so to suit the pockets of the "owners."

The owners of Nigeria in turn, have become a plague on their immediate surroundings, so the national question is far from simply an Ogoni one.

Banned by Seun in Politics for "your misfiring (and rather primitive) emotions are leading you into the trashcan (as usual).". Ban expires on 4:15pm

I wonder how the above is worth a ban? It is not even remotely insulting.
My suspicion is that it is another of OAM4J's shenanigans. I certainly do not believe it was Seun.

OAM4J is hardly moderator material, he is emotional, petty, partisan and deeply prejudiced. The other day, he banned me for calling his actions a few choice and highly coloured words after he personally started off an unprovoked personal attacks which quickly descended into the "40 laptop" tosh. No moderator should be so childish, insulting and visibly biased. Moderators should not make unprovoked personal attacks.

Other things OAM4J has banned me for? Simply posting to an anti-Aregbe thread (he unbanned me when I PMed him asking if I'd been banned for fun), linking to harmless pics that exist on NL and for which the original uploaders were not banned, of course those pics are still unhidden in their original posts as well.

It is best for the politics section to have principled mods (like HNosegbe, Haka Nai etc) who are also critical of the govt (for balance), than to have mods that make it look like they are running a racket or some sort of mafia.

The post for which I was banned was in response to the obviously insulting ones below. Somebody, please tell me which is worse:

torkaka:

are you daft? i said south south leaders or are diezani,goodluck etc not south south leaders? see who is talking about emotions,rubbish!

torkaka:
first off i don't give a damn about northern leaders angry neither do i give a damn about southern(read:south south)leaders angry what p.isses me off is when folks like you (who in my opinion are the scum of the earth)hypocritically(sic) accuse others of the same thing you are guilty of! angry
the only difference between a south south person and a core northerner is that one lives in a land where oil is beneath the ground! both sets of people are lazy good for nothing arsonist angry who behave like premature vultures! angry

https://www.nairaland.com/1007939/northern-leaders-blast-edwin-clark

I de hail ooo!

torkaka:

no sir, the thread is about northern leaders and what a south southern leader thinks about them'. theres a difference between some one being misled into a trash can and some one already in a trash can!

I'm glad you got the bolded. Edwin Clark simply pointed out what every sensible Nigerian (including core-Northerners) has on their mind, which is that core-Northern elite promised violence after political and electoral losses... and now we have boko haram.

2 + 2 = 4.

The truth is bitter.

Could the suspected ride height mechanisms explain why some teams seem to be imperious in the wet, while others drop off drammatically? Hmmm!

Red Bull and Ferrari are now fully at WAR!

[size=14pt]F1: ‘Furious’ Ferrari Denies Marko’s Hand-Adjuster Claim[/size]
Written by: SPEED Staff / GMM
Date: 08/03/2012 - 08:33 AM
Location: GMM Newswire

A reportedly “furious” Ferrari has hit back at Red Bull, after the reigning champions suggested the famous Italian team broke the rules “for a year.”

Frustrated with the constant technical controversies involving Red Bull in 2012, the team’s Helmut Marko said this week that actually “Ferrari used something like that for a year.”

The outspoken Austrian had been asked about the latest Red Bull saga, amid reports the FIA told the team to remove an illegal hand-control for adjusting the RB8’s ride height without a tool at June’s Canadian Grand Prix.

The website of Italian sports newspapers Tuttosport and Corriere dello Sport said Ferrari has responded to Marko’s claims by issuing a robust denial.

A Ferrari spokesman was quoted as saying the accusation is “completely untrue.”

Indeed, in the original article that quoted Marko about the alleged Ferrari system, journalist Michael Schmidt doubted Red Bull would have any knowledge about what is under the skin of the red F2012.

“One has to wonder how an outsider could have seen something like that,” said the Auto Motor und Sport writer.

“Chassis components at the front are well hidden in the carbon tube, and you can only get access to them from the top service hatch.

“And it’s hard to imagine Ferrari would have given any insight to strangers,” added Schmidt.

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-furious-ferrari-denies-helmut-markos-hand-adjuster-claim/

One obvious question would be how Helmut Marko came to be in possession of such hidden Ferrari details. Hmm!
Ferrari used to be F1's grand cheats in Schumi times, with illegal fuels, components etc, so they know the ins and outs of these things. Helmut Marko just might have forcefully strode into shark infested waters (with the colour of the sharks being "red" and the jugular being in Red Bull colours).

Its gonna be an interesting summer break!

I liked this comment (from the same page I sourced the article above):

mclarrow:

No wonder Ferrari are furious, Marko said that they broken the ruleS for a year...Actually they were broken the ruleS for many years...So come on Marko give credit where credit is due...Back in the Schumi days, you could see Michael during the race (that no one else were doing), twisting something above his left knee, What was that?? Why didn't anybody question what is was?? Got it on tape in many races...I am sure Michael knows what it was and so Ross Brawn...It will come out one of these days mark my words...

torkaka:

first off i don't give a damn about northern leaders neither do i give a damn about southern(read:south south)leaders what p.isses me off is when folks like you (who in my opinion are the scum of the earth)hypocritically(sic) accuse others of the same thing you are guilty of!
the only difference between a south south [/b]person and a core northerner is that one lives in a land where oil is beneath the ground! both sets of people are lazy good for nothing arsonist who behave like [b]premature vultures!

Sorry, the thread is about Northern leaders, so your misfiring (and rather primitive) emotions are leading you into the trashcan (as usual).

The core-Northern elite promised bloodshed before and after they lost the elections, so now that we have blood and suicide bombers, every thinking person concludes that they are behind it. Your emotions are not a curtain over the truth and our observations.

The truth is bitter.

Cleverley: ogoni people are they not SS? I pity them sha.

You pity people who know what they want and who you can offer nothing? Thats really strange, bro.
The rest of the SS is not too far behind, the SE is even closer.
These people have realised the immense power they wield in the nation, only to have reaped suffering, pollution and death before now.

The current Nigerian architecture has nothing to offer minorities; luckily God blessed these same minorities with the golden egg that powers both the FG and its allocations.

Perhaps, the only way to force through the much needed national conference is for each and every SE/SS group to declare indigenous rights to autonomy with the UN like the Ogoni's. Only then will Nigeria wake up and people finally start reasoning like humans.

We are better off as one country, but no group is slave to the other.

torkaka:
are you daft? i said south south leaders or are diezani,goodluck etc not south south leaders? see who is talking about emotions,rubbish!

You seem to be exploding with emotions, bro.

The truth is bitter.
We believe that core-Northern leaders are behind boko haram for political reasons due to the threats they made. Accept it.
Your emotions only make for weak arguments.

torkaka:

dude i work with facts!
no caught bokoharamist has implicated any northern leader that i know of
a caught MEND member has implicated south south leaders go figure! and stop being hypocrites!!

That is just the same way no militant has ever mentioned Clark, yet you found a way to do so. Your outbursts are mere emotion that can do nothing to change the minds of thinking and observing people.

If you threaten to kill someone and next thing, the person dies, who will be the first person the police arrest?

The truth is bitter, bro.
Ask your elite why they need boko haram.

info: so?

So, Oshiomhole is really a PDP man, bruv.
Obj visited him secretly, Dangote sponsored him, Oshiomhole is one of GEJ's staunchest supporters and friends... Do the math.

Cleverley:
I'd like to see how the FG reacts to this. [b]A committee will be set up [/b]to look into the ogonise

That is exactly how it should be.
We are now a civilised country. If you want the Ogoni's back, then convince them about what you can contribute to them feeling any belonging.
All Nigeria wants is their oil while saying, "phuck those minority people."

Perhaps, the rest of the SE/SS will begin reacting more strongly.

torkaka:

and when edwin co.ckclark was supporting criminals who were kidnapping expatriates in the name of militants was he ever picked and locked up?

edwin clark is a hypocritical(sic) arz h :ole!
the truth is bitter

I don't see what your outburst has got to do with the reason why every sensible person points certain core-Northern leaders out as being the powers behind boko haram.

The truth is bitter.

Ogbiaboy: whose brain is upside down?idiot

Dude, ignore foolish people.

@topic
When you say you will cause problems, then you become the first suspect when problems arise. We remember how men like Kaita and Buhari took turns to promise bloodshed. Even here on NL, someone (gadogado) repeatedly promised massive suicide bombings at a time Nigeria had never had a suicide bomber, simply because GEJ won the elections.

Edwin Clark spoke very well.
The truth is bitter.

maclatunji:

This is the kind of excuse you get from lazy and incompetent people.

#NOOFFENCE

Please, tell us if your governor is doing better than a goat, instead of derailling desperately. Somebody asks you A and you start misfiring about B. Pat Utomi criticised governors for being worse than goats, but by your submissions, you seem to be in support of goat-like governors.

Please stick to the topic and stop sounding desperate when men of high intelligence like Pat Utomi tell us correctly that the governors are what is wrong with the countruy. Do you even know the name of you LG boss?

Delafruita:
i dont agree with you completely.the american system of federalism might not work in nigeria.you need to take into account the fact that america isnt just a country,its a union.different states joined the union at different times but for the same purpose,to repel the british.these states already existed independently before the formation of the union and based on the agreements,were to continue to exist independently.even the states that were added later either through purchase or otherwise continued in that same manner.nigeria doesnt have foundation.states didnt come together,rather states were arbitrarily formed.i support true fiscal federalism but the reality is that if we choose to implement it ,many states will go bankrupt

American federalism is what the Nigerian version was modelled against. Our constitution is based on the US equivalent which is tried, tested and hugely successful.

The reason Nigeria is failing is the contortions written into the constitution to ensure that the country remains forever under the grip of ex-generals and those they pick. The ideals in the US constitution were removed, so that instead of freedom, a govt of official patronage would flourish with Abuja as the focal point of cash disbursement; giving the President godlike status, while states were discouraged from believing in any other ability outside that of sharing awuf, gallivanting the globe, talking crap about "World Bank loans," "airconditioned bridges," hiring 900+ aides etc.

The simple truth is that ALL Nigerian states can be economically independent and developed off their own steam. All it takes is for a governor to actually strive to serve and empower his people. And it doesn't take much, because the average person is bursting with talent; from the Kano dye pits, to Bida brasses, Naraguta leather, Awka blacksmithing etc. We've got it all, its just that there are no avenues for our local talent. The people just need to be released an unleashed.

There is no reason on Gods Earth why Nigerian states cannot be like the American ones, who instead of being reliant of govt handouts, are incredible powerhouses of development. The state of Carlifornia would be the 8th richest country in the World by GDP if it was a nation; they surely don't need allocation awuf, in fact it would be an insult for such to be mentioned.
We are able bodied, so why can our states not be like the American ones?

As for our local govts, I'll leave a picture from a Jamaican rural area to show an example of what they should be doing. The last time I posted pics of people unhygienically selling meat in PH and lagos, many people became ridiculously upset (most for ethnically bigoted reasons).



http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20101018/lead/lead3.html

edicolove:

I don't think Beaf or anyone has ever advocated you don't question the president. There is a big difference between questioning and being insulting, partisan, tribal and trying to bring him down. You have a right to question the president and as a good citizen, you should. But coming on a public forum to insult his person and tribe is not the same thing as questioning or demanding good governance. If you look back, you would even notice this trend started from the day he won the 2011 election so it had nothing to do with his performance. It was purely hatred and the quest for power.

The fact that the thread is about governors, but Ileke Idi managed to sneak in her pet hatreds only shows the low quality of her mind.
Others have been able to grasp the gravity of the situation, especially as Pat Utomi is recognised as a man of towering intellect and morals; a man whose words don't come cheap.

Dotman01: Can't or Won't?

Whether the house can't or won't impeach the President is beyond the point. The point is that Farouk will be tried even if heaven falls, no matter how hard the subsidy mafia forces fight back.
GEJ doesn't give a damn anyway (and thats why he is in Trinidad and Tobago, not caring for the reps infantile flappings).

boysy: This is getting so annoying. Why is our security agency takes Nigerian for granted. The same story over and over again. They are always set to arraign Lawan but no action taken. Enough of this boyish attitude from a serious matter as this. If you've enough evidence against him, why can't he be arraigned and stop telling 170million Nigerian stories day after day. We cannot take this from you people again is high time you people sit up and do the right thing as soon as possible. Right now the man is enjoying himself at the comfort of his home while you keep update us with inactive comment every time. Enough of this.

It is best to learn about due process than complain about it, bruv.
What Nigeria needs is to change the constitution as it concerns judicial matters, lets not be good at screaming illogical emotion into the wind. Learn the root of the problem and attack it.

Okonjo Iweala for President!
That woman is gold.

Happy birthday, Namadi Sambo!
Fresh Air!

Eziachi:
Some of you are not even helping Jonathan with things you guys say all the time without thinking first. A chief security officer called the president asking two old men in retirement to make move to stop a plague in his kingdom is not only misdirection of duty but a waving of sorry I can't do it flag, help me please.
Your above bolded statement is serious insult on Jonathan but you think you are defending or helping him.

Stop sounding so desperate, bro. We are talking about blood here, not salt and pepper.

The "weak, tired old men" you are talking about are both part of govt as members of the Nigerian Council of State (as is Obj); in fact Buhari is so "old" that he is actually gunning for yet another quixotic shot at the presidency come 2015. Na wa!
Sir, there is no point making excuses that are so desperate as to be utterly and completely ridiculous.

To drive the point home even further, are you actually claiming that they are too old and weak to condemn boko haram?

Eziachi:

The last time I went to an orphanage home, I adopted a six months old baby girl. She is my only daughter. The only sister to my one and only biological son.
She is now an adult with three grandchildren for me and professionally, she is a former BBC/CNN news producer and now news/current affairs producers with the Al Jazeera network in Doha.
You see, I am not as frustrated as you think, just that some of you don't know your adam from you eve and never use the brain bestowed on you before typing.

God bless you for that.
That doesn't excuse you for talking recklessly and spreading untruths about GEJ, though.

naturalwaves: U so funny,what other form of intelligence do u want aside the fact that I dissected ur gillberish and made a better logical analysis devoid of unnecessary divertion and statistics.I thought U wanted to go head to head initially,I would av told u that u are about to make one of d greatest mistakes of ur lifetime cos u wouldn't love d consequences,I bet! U saw d hand writing on d wall and cowardly surrendered to superiority of thought and defeat in a proud manner though.Let me give u some breathing space cos I see u've been sitting on d thread as if u don't av anything else doing.[size=14pt]Maybe u shuld ask Seun to put a tone alert in d program so that wen someone makes a comment,u will be notified instead of checking and checking all d time.[/size]lolz.Bye.

[size=23pt]Blood of Jesus!!
Okongu!!! Agbedo! Choi! Okrimale!!!
Broda Okon, come e! Dem don take laf wound me o!![/size]

Very nice one from Pat Utomi.

I have always asked when Nigerians will learn to question their governors and LG bosses. Most people are happy, so long as awuf flows from Abuja, but no successful country is run that way. Instead, the Nigerian system of largesse from above and laziness from below is the road to ruin and perdition.

It is in the interest of every Nigerian, young and old, to know the duties and responsibilities of their LG and state govts. Your state is meant to provide the frameworks and enabling environment for local business and industry to flourish. It is your governors duty and surely not that of the FG to develop your state, provide health services, education, employment etc. These things are not for the FG to do; you cannot give a man a wife (Abuja monthly awuf) and be expected to do the deed in the darkness, because the man is inept about how babies are born.

Take a cue from the US and see how successful states have grabbed various nitches; Florida (tourism, industry, aerospace etc), Nevada (Las Vegas casino's etc), California (Hollywood, Silicon Valley - home of Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook etc... Nuff said). These states were built into the powerhouses that they are through the foresight of creative governors and county bosses who pulled the right plugs and pushed the right levers to enable their people, both financially, socially and intellectually.
...Here in Nigeria? Last I heard, our governors were engaged in a desperate search for how to get even more of the enslaving Abuja awuf per month. It is depressing.

As far as I know, these are the working governors in Nigeria:

1. Akpabio
2. Okorotcha
3. Chime
4. Amaechi
5. Sule Lamido
6. Fashola
7. Oshiomole

I think we might be adding Seriake Dickson of Bayelsa from the way things are going.

ayobase:

From a reliable source!
There is a protest going on now at NEPA Zonal office, Zone 4, Wuse, Abuja.
They are closing down, and moving to the headquarters.
Some unresolved cases on ground also.
....pension and the likes!

@@modified@@

GEJ bera close the damn thing even faster.

By the way, NEPA (alias PHCN) is just a bunch of offices, admin centres and stores filled with stuff like metres. They do not own power plants or transmission infrastructure, so GEJ might as well dash it out to those who have more sense and morals than the thieving lot that have been running the place.

Katsumoto:

You mean posters have to wait until the Supreme court rules on this before posters can comment and discuss??

Perhaps that is why Americans are waiting until the 'fiscal cliff' event occurs before discussing the constitutionally allowed debt ceiling.

I don't see much of an informed discussion in the first few posts. It was all a rather primitive dig in, like occurs most times on NL these days.