pinceprinz:


I was reading through the dictionary of life today and I couldn't find equality . That word doesn't exist sir! Equality is a complete illusion to be sincere , it's a mere wish af the heart

e·qual·i·ty
əˈkwälədē/
noun
the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities.

Is the idea of racial equality a complete illusion? Is it something that should not be fought for? Would you like to live in the UK and be considered a second class citizen because you're black? Don't tell me equality doesn't exist.

pinceprinz:


My dear, Equal rights in everything is impossible. Nature wasn't designed like that

There can be equal rights between men and women

Johnnoah1st:
dis ur story is more of story 4 d gods,(obatala and co) dan 4 we mortals, cus i cant see any sense in it.

Are you sure my story makes no sense because other people made sense of it. Where did you learn to read?

EgusiSoup:


So you are laughing me?

I'm not laughing at you. I'm supporting you

all4naija:

The term FEMINISM doesn't sound equal, it sounds feminine. That alone speaks volume of what it is all about. I would rather women drop that term and fight for their right from equality standpoint. Equality applies to both sexes but feminism doesn't!

Feminism sounds feminine for a reason. Men have all the pathways to success and the freedom to do as they see fit. Women don't have those. So feminists fight for the rights of women so that we too can succeed. True feminism don't attack men. They attack systems put in place to oppress women. That's why there are male feminists. That's why a feminist can also be a maninist. It's about equal rights.

all4naija:
@ BeastOfNoNation

I would like you to change the title of the thread to something more debatable. It is generalizing and stereotypical in nature!

Okayyy. I didn't mean to offend. That was the last thing on my mind. What would you prefer I change it to?

all4naija:
That women are superior to men sort of. There is a quote by a lady I come across on nairaland when discussing the same issue some time ago that says, "what a man can do a woman can do better". That is not helping matters. If you look closely at what feminism is driving at, most especially, the radical feminism you would understand that it is about superiority. Like some women want men to be seen by women nothing more than disgusting beings who trample on women rights and must be discriminated.

Radical feminism leans more towards misandry. I'm a centrist feminist. Equality for women and equality6for men. Equality for all human beings

EgusiSoup:
What if you does not have chair but has sofa

Oga this your English worry ooooo!!! But I get what you're saying.

all4naija:
@ BeastOfNoNation

I think it is time women stop addressing equality from the feminist point of view because it is going to distant them from the men. It would lead to more rivalry and it is going to continuously turnout ugly.

Women are just as smart as men. That is a complete fact. I have never look at any woman to be inferior to me.

What do you think is a feminist point of view?

Etetejake:


sweetheart, I think its high time we meet to chatted face to face.

And talk about what?....

Etetejake:


I don't know Gorge Orwell and am just knowing from u that he is a feminist. I don't care anything about him. am just relating the the animals role to the greed of women.

But the story was about the greed of men

Barayeks:


"Equal opportunities to ACHIEVE as men"

Just proves my point that you feminist want selective equality

Wait, so what is wrong with wanting to achieve?

Barayeks:
Beastofnonation

You really didn't need to tag me because there are women up there who have said everything about feminism. Feminism is having equal respect for both genders and saying that both or them are capable of doing whatever it is that they want to do. That is feminism. We're not saying that we want to eradicate male or female characteristics and make everyone indistinguishable from each other. We want the same opportunities to achieve as men and sometimes that's not the case.

sonofananimal:
what you don't understand, you called it confuse!

Just a low IQ YOU HAVE

I feel likewise. You seem painfully stu.pid

sonofananimal:
the something else he has turn to is the very same thing you don't understand, that's why you open a thread and name that thing you don't understand about men and why them change toward WOMEN. You called it “misogynist ”

I've come to believe you're just a confused human being

sonofananimal:
let assume we are misogynist, men just don't go haywire on women unless there is something involve, and that something involve is the way WOMEN behave toward the men. You people tend to misuse his good gesture, seen him as opportunity to eat and go, and so on!

So why won't him turn to something else

And don't just tell me “because he his moving with the wrong woman ”

He will turn to something else? Another man or animal abi wetin?

cruzyteejay:




hello bae,you are just fighting a lost battle,i just hope you get married to a man that tolerate bullshit,cus if you don't,this your sense of reasoning will cost your life,the fact remains that men are the head,women are classified under nothing,it is only your man that will place you wherever is suitable depending on how you treat him,the saying that men are the head and women are the neck was just fabricated by your type(fellow feminist),do you even ask yourself why men are always physically stronger than women,so that they can cater for himself and his wife,women are there to keep men company as it was in the beginning though some of these have changed,all in the sense to make your type feel belonged buh you still sit down and type some scrap of irrelevant stuff that are very rare but always seen by you because of your character,a woman with good sense of reasoning will never this of equaling herself with her husband............you won't want to be a house wife but you will like to share the household duties because you now chose to work,though am not of the fact that women education ends in the kitchen but that is still the problem now,as we all know,women are naturally meant to keep the household in order,but they now chose to work like men which is not a bad idea but equally not an excuse to share the household duties

I don't know why I'm even discussing with you anymore. It's obvious that your own mind has been hardened and made up over time. At least me and the other females in my life know that we are not nothing just because we were born with vaginas.

tommychow:


WHAT?! Sharp guys know the value of intelligent women. We know the value of simply talking and falling into the depth of the persons mind.

Yeah, nowadays there are loads of hustling women. I'm happy for them not only because they're making their money but because they are more respectable. They attract only equally respectable men, the fake guys get intimidated easily.

Good question. At this stage of my life I can't be dating a financially dependent chick. About being emotionally dependent, both parties have to be or else it won't feel like a relationship. Although, males tend to be more sexual than emotional unlike females. So I'll say, a working, ambitious babe who's emotionally...and sexually () dependent on moi. Best combo!

Gimme your own combo.

Okay. I agree 100% with your explanation. A relationship is a partnership based on mutual respect, emotional attachment, Sex (Before nko?), being each other's best friend, and GOOD TIMES

cruzyteejay:


and what made you think that the rib is inbetween the leg and head......why didn't they come from the waist?

Are your ribs not in between the leg and head??

sonofananimal:
prove you RIGHT! !

Did you even know the true meaning of misogynist

And your post didn't even prove why Nigeria men are misogynistic in nature

Oya look at the dictionary definition so that you won't say I'm wrong.

mi·sog·y·ny
məˈsäjənē/Submit
noun
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

You have shown all of the above in your post.
Also a lot of the guys in this post have proven that they are incredibly prejudiced towards women.

sonofananimal:
ONE OF THE MOST RUBBISH POST I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTER

LET ME GIVE YOU SOME OF THE ANSWER TO YOUR STVPID QUESTIONS:



YOU SO CALLED NAIJA WOMEN ARE ONE OF THE MOST SELFISH PEOPLE ON EARTH, WHY WON'T WE GUYS CHANGE


YOU PEOPLE ARE GOLD DIGGERS,



GREEDY SET OF WOMEN,


AND THE WORST OF ALL! VERY SMELLING AND DIRTY WOMEN PARADING WITH MAKEUPS UP AND DOWN

I don't know the kind of women you hang around but you should probably change that. Besides, you can't call my post rubbish if you are exemplifying everything I said. I said Nigerian men are misogynistic then you go on to rant about your hatred towards women. You've only proven me right.

cruzyteejay:
......
But you girls do believe that you are a man's missing rib right?

Please read : "A woman came from a man's rib. Not from his head to be superior. Not from his feet to be trampled on. But from his side to be equal."

KingRaoul:


If i have learned anything from society is that women are really less mentally developed as guys are (no bias) its best to just stop worrying about what they want and just treat them like ignorant little kids because sad as it is thats how their mind works. (Like ignorant little kids)

That is the most biased opinion on this discussion so far. All women are ignorant little kids? Go and tell your mother she is an ignorant little kid. I don't know what a woman did to you that makes you feel this way but your opinion is wrong. It is very wrong.

mccoy47:

1) When I was younger mum always told me be a gentleman and always carry ladies first

2) When I was in public my elders always told me offer ur sits to women. And should I refuse the whole world stares at me like am a jacka$$ Reason? just because they are women and i am a man

3) When I got to school late in company of my female classmates the head teacher flogs me 24strokes and den tell the girls to kneel.and woe betide any teacher that insists on flogging the girls 24strokes like me. Reason? Because am a man

4) At home am made to do the difficult chores and my elder sister is made to do the lighter ones, should I object? Shush!! Would be the word don't you know she is a gal?

5) When I go on a date with a girl and the bills are brought, she gives me the "pay for it look" afterall it's a man's world

6) When in school and our biology teacher asks. which is the weaker sex? should u answer none! "F" is your portion SCIENCE!

ALL THIS YEARS GROWING UP AND NO FEMALE/ FEMINIST RAISED AN OBJECTION!
NOW AM 23 HUSTLING MY A$$ OUT TO HAVE MY OWN MONEY, OWN MY OWN HOUSE, CARS AND OF COURSE GET A WIFE.
DO YOU NOW EXPECT ME TO SHARE A 50/50 RESPONSIBILITY AND SAY WITH MY FIANCE OR WIFE AS THE CASE MAY BE?

The problem lies in the environment you grew up in and not because women are physically and mentally incapable of being independent. I don't understand the kind of science teacher you had that would fail you if you said women were equal. Also as for that number four, I have never been in ONE situation where that is the case. It's always the other way round and the reasoning is always that women are the ones to take care of the household and make the man comfortable. Is it right? You and your wife will both be working for the entire day, you both finish at the same time, get home at the same time, you get to relax but your wife's work hasn't finished. She will still cook for you, clean the house for you, take care of the children, and other 'housewife' duties. Would it not be fair to share both the responsibilities. As long as we are all human beings, we are 50/50

cruzyteejay:


then you are not a woman either,make research before saying anything,feminist this feminist that,go to the senate house and tell me how many women that are there..........till tomorrow women can never equal men in anything,its just nature,do you think God is a fool,he made women just with one rib of a man,i guess you know how many ribs a skeleton gat.........xo how do you think you can equal a man when you are just a single rib out of the many ribs in his body......you gat to think wella,men tend to make you inferior if you take it on yourself to equal with men,i bet you if you can respect and be humble to a man(there is a big difference between being humble and being foolish)then that man will be the one to equal you to himself,its his job not your job,that's why i will always condemn feminism,cus it tries hard to beat nature which in turn isolate them from others and they still think that they are fighting for their right(still being inferior)no offense tho

The funny thing is that it's been proven that both men and women have 24 ribs each. However sometimes it is possible to find an extra rib in BOTH genders. You say no offense but what you're saying is offensive.

UncleLondon:


When women don't want to settle for someone who will give them peace of mind. Alpha males have spontaneous mind and their mission is always to seek, sample and destroy as much female entities as they can. Try Betta, Gamma males and you will forget the word misogynist.

I agree with you the problem is that I feel most Gamma and Beta males start showing up around the age of late 30s to early 40s. Even at that age, there are guys that still run when they see that I'm ambitious. I'm still very young so I'm hoping one correct minded Nigerian guy will pop out of somewhere one day.

tommychow:


I have enjoyed this argument so far.

I get you and I'm pretty sure I would have been a feminist if I was Swedish. Maybe in Sweden, women are enjoying equal rights in workplaces because women are equally driven professionally NOT because they simply ranted about it on YouTube lol. Hope you get my point.

You sef, you should know your fellow naija gals and being typically too dependent on her man. Feminist movement in naij is a big joke on a crack ya ribs level lol. No offense. This brings me to a good question though. In Nigeria, do you think women being equally financially capable will be good for relationships/marriages? Think Hollywood before you answer.

Do you find smart guys like me attractive? I mean, a guy that can challenge you the way I'm doing now has to be appealing somehow.

Of course intellectualism is part of the traits that are appealing in guys but it doesn't seem to be the other way round in regards to women

And I also don't want to think Hollywood because it's not reality. There are many women who work and have good relationships and marriages. I have a question for you too. would YOU prefer a girl who is smart and goals-driven or would you rather feel dominant in a relationship where the girl is emotionally and financially dependent on you?

*Heads up. I'm not attacking you at allll! just curious to know your answer

tommychow:


Before I begin, I respect you for arguing logically.

To me, feminism is saying "Look, I'm not financially dependent , physically weaker and emotionally needy like majority of the women. So, I wanna change how men look at women because of me and a few other exceptional women". You and other feminists are suffering from the reputation women have shown since the beginning of time...THEN YOU BLAME MEN FOR IT (the funniest part). You should be blaming majority of women for being the traditional woman.

Concerning the the job sector, the most lucrative jobs require aggressive qualities men MAINLY possess: oil and gas, construction, computer and engineering technology etc. not modelling, fashion designing etc dominated by women because they are more interested in looking nice. Ranting for Nigerian women will not do anything. Why? Because they are busy enjoying the benefits of being taken care of, of being protected. But who protects and provides for the man? The woman? I categorically doubt that.

Maybe in Sweden, women are ACTUALLY PROVING to be as capable in every job sector. Definitely not in Nigeria, where women focus more on getting married or being in a relationship with a made man than being a MADE WOMAN. All I hear is: SHOPPING, BIG WEDDING, MARRIAGE, RELATIONSHIP, KIDS, FASHION, OTHER WOMEN, HANGING WITH BFFS, CELEBRITY GOSSIP, HAVING 2000 NICE PICTURES OF HERSELF, HOT GUYS, VACATION etc. Too many distractions. Do you know what we men think of here? Being successful and showing the world, being a provider, being alpha, sex, sports, the end. Men here in Nigeria are more driven to make money.

I also commend you for arguing logically and respectfully. you have a point but Feminism is still very important. Misandry and Misogyny should be completely eradicated from all societies.

On an additional note, I suppose Nigeria's backwardness is too complex. I personally do not dedicate my entire life to fighting the for the Feminist Movement because Nigeria has bigger problems BUT I am still a feminist. If everyone was feminist, there would be no reason for women to shout FEMALE INEQUALITY because it wouldn't be a problem. Also please Sir when you see a woman, try not to assume that she is without ambition because she knows about the last episode of the kardashians. That same woman may know every single detail of the current oil crisis and may better Nigeria in the future.

Etetejake:
If u want to know what women really want go and read ANIMAL FARM BY GEOGE ORWELL. I wount be surprised to see some women being treated as inferior by other women when they finally overthrow us with this feminist ideology.

George Orwell's Animal Farm was about communism........ and he was also a well-known feminist so your entire argument is invalid.

pryd:

WoW! The only thing invalid here is your reasoning . I guess the special attention accorded WOMEN & children during emergency situations is also out of place; because by your submission, they never asked for it.

They actually didn't ask for it. If the guy thinks the woman is weak so he should stand up, that is his decision because he believes women are weak. The girl didn't open her mouth to say she wants to sit down. In fact she may have been fine standing.

tommychow:


The same chick will be like I wanna marry an alpha male who can make me feel secured, who can provide for my needs and take care of me. Good luck marrying a soft nigga with no balls. One day, you'll wake up and start hating him "what a weakling".

You feminists say you want equal rights but be honest, how many women put equal efforts? How many women want to become police women, SOLDIERS, engineers, boxers (LOL) etc. They are too difficult for you women abi? You want to do fashion designing, accounting, business management, law etc. Jobs that don't involve RISKING YOUR LIVES! Please I'm talking in general o, I don't care if your aunt is in the army. You're blinded by your own ideas you don't wanna face facts, facts that women are dependent, softer, emotional creatures and men are the dominant, tougher, logical creatures. God designed things this way for balance: Day/night, man/woman, good/evil, life/death etc.

BUT if you still wanna continue being a feminist (thank you for wasting my time) STOP ATTACKING MEN FOR BEING STRONGER AND ATTACK WOMEN FOR BEING WEAKER! Start with, blaming your kind for being financially dependent, physically weak and too damn emotional. Tell them to be the providers and the protectors...or just, PLAY YOUR ROLE AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!

If your daughter told you that she wants to be an engineer, would you tell her she should play her role and shut her mouth? Would you tell her that she is supposed to be dependant on a man her entire life?

And why are you assuming that I attack men for being strong?

All these anti-feminist rants don't make sense. Feminism means DON'T TELL ME THAT BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN I CAN'T DO ANYTHING. Gbam. That is feminism. If a woman begins hating men, then that is misandry. There is a difference between feminism and misandry. I am a feminist (as some guys are) but I am in NO way a misandrist.

You said that women want to work in easy jobs and not the same jobs as men? In Sweden, men and women are equal in ANY job place. Sweden is ranked as the most gender equal country in the world. Nigeria on the other hand is at 118 out of 142 countries. Even India was ranked above us and that country is known as the rape capital of the world. The way they disrespect women is appalling.

I'm telling you that female brains are not made lesser than males. It's society and culture that raises women to be inferior. God didn't create them that way.

mccoy47:

My dear being a feminist is a VERY bad idea oo. Especially in Nigeria.
Ask Linda ikeji, Genevieve, Fummi Iyanda n co.

So essentially, being feminist won't land me a husband?