obiorathesubtle:
Didn't read.. Don't care!

So why did you comment?

slyIsaac:
So you want me to read all tat epistle because you no wan marry?







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Sorry it was long I made some parts bold so that people can read the basic idea. I hope it did not burst your brain

Hello Nairalanders!!

Recently, I realized that the idea of marriage doesn't excite me AT ALL. This realization came about when I was talking to my older cousin who's sister just recently got engaged. I was very happy to hear the news and we were all celebrating for her and wishing her good things. So while I was hugging her, she looked at me and said "Ejirooo! Very soon we'll be celebrating your own engagement ooo!" So we started laughing and she went to talk to the other cousins and aunties. It now occured to me that she was right. One day I will kuku marry. And the thought of that seriously scares me.

You see, I've had relationships before and I've met some of the nicest Naija guys on the face of the planet BUT I've never imagined myself being married to any of them. I've never even experienced real attraction to any of them

Ironically, I've imagined myself being a mother (I'm very nurturing and maternal by nature) and I think it's part of the problem. I would like to adopt children in the future and I haven't met any Nigerian guy who is okay with that idea. Please let me clarify, I WANT TO HAVE MY OWN CHILDREN but I also want to adopt some so that I can give them a better life. I know that being a single mother carries a stigma in Nigerian society but I like the idea of it personally. Lots of fathers are not even directly involved in the rearing of their child anyway.

My second issue with marriage is the multiple problems that can arise. Domestic abuse, Infidelity, Divorce, etc. It seems like everyday one person is having issues with their marriage and it's making me believe that this marriage thing isn't worth the pain. I don't like wahala in my life. I'm also afraid of those guys that control their women's lives and dominate in every aspect. I understand a male being masculine but I don't want to be regarded as a lesser human being to him. It seems like some guys can't differentiate between a wife and a slave

My third issue is that I just don't really understand the need for marriage. I'm pretty self dependent and I can't imagine living with a man let alone marrying one and taking care of him for the rest of my life. While dating, me and my ex just did our own thing. We both had jobs so I didn't need money (plus I have a father if I really need anything ). Marriage title won't add any benefit to my life so what is the use? When I used to go to my last church, the Pastor will be shaking and shouting and praying that the women in church will find husband. The women will now be jumping and fainting and rolling on the ground. I used to stand there and just look at them because I didn't understand. Is It because of Mrs. title or diamond wedding ring? Monogamous marriage doesn't even seem to work in Africa from what I've seen

I'm definitely going to marry just so that my mother will not shout but it will have to be somebody that does his own thing and isn't looking for the conventional wife. It just seems very inconvenient though.

So my questions are:

1) What is the actual use of Marriage?

2) Do any other females feel this way? (I specifically ask females because I have met males who feel this way but if you are male you can answer too )

3) Is marriage for everybody?

Please respond! thank you!

laraxxx:
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Misogynist2014:
A virgin wife is desirable,no matter the disadvantages at least you know you are not marrying a "left over."With a virgin,you get to coordinate the moves consequently earning you a lot of MAN points.

Men like you scare me. no lie :/

danidee10:
what abt imagine dragons na ...really love the artwork of their album, the only one that makes sense to me there is burna boi....the rest are rubbish

You do understand that this thread is exclusively Nigerian musicians right?

all4naija:
It is good to see you are happy now. I like happy people, you know.

I like happy people too

idbusah:


Like I stated in my comment, the behavior of such men can be linked to their upbringing, personal experiences or even societal influence- these factors have been in play since time's inception and can't be downplayed with just a flick of the wrist.
Misogyny is just like a religion in which when someone's whole-heartedly committed to it, his perception of the world revolves around it.

One thing I just want to drive at is that if the term "feminism " is what you say it is, then it should be called something else like "gender equality movement". This is because "feminism" sounds like it is only women who are suffrering and men don't get their own fair share of unequal treatment.

Okay. I understand what you're saying in regards to both feminism and misogyny. Thank you

all4naija:

Yes, we are!

Okay, I'm happy now

all4naija:

Not with the present world population and resources. Just adopt and educate people to depopulate. If you think your man is going to leave you for that you can come and be with me(if that is making you feel despair) and my girlfriend. I will there for you when you feel lonely. We have to save the earth because we only have one to be sure of at the moment.

This guyyy okay are we on a good note now?

all4naija:
You pretend not to but increasing the population by 2 kids exposed your flawed approach.

There's nothing wrong with having two kids. Having six is where my alarm bells would be ringing.

all4naija:

I like kids but I hate it when people put them in a precarious position. That is worse than a crime for jail sentence I have given to you many times here. Ah!

So did I put any child in a precarious situation?

ghidefemi:


Is that not what is happening now?

I'm not yet ready or even old enough for marriage.

all4naija:

How do those orphanage children come about? It is true encouragement ladies give themselves in their gossip time. They would advise themselves to get pregnant for him to stick with them not knowing it will turn out very ugly at the end. I hope you are now getting the clear picture.

But I've never done that. What sense would I be using by telling them such? The children that came about just because of Konji nko? Was I the one that encouraged it? My motivation for adopting children was because I volunteered at a homeless shelter last year. The children of irresponsible people were suffering in loneliness and many of them had depression at such a young age. Is it right? No. So I want to adopt children #Shikena. I haven't encouraged anyone to have children that they can't take care of. Adoption is part of population control.

Please tell me, do you not like kids?

all4naija:

Your idea of population control is skewed. You want to have 2 kids and adopt others from people you probably encourage to increase the number of people in the society. That is a wrong concept of population control to me.

What do you mean "encouraging to increase the number of people in the society?" I'm talking about adopting a child who otherwise would have no home. Or are you hinting at the Pro-life vs. Pro-choice debate?

all4naija:

'My future husband'. Smh... You have spoken like a religious feminist though.

I am not religious and I believe in gender equality.
I've been looking through some or your posts and I've come to realise that you're just a troublesome human being. I don't take anything you've said personally anymore. You don't know me. That's the truth of the matter.

johnson232:

@bolded, U're a very sensible fellow. Population is one of the biggest challenges facing this country today. I think laws controlling birthrate should be enacted & enforced in this country.
The population is really getting out of hand....

I don't know why all4naija thinks I don't believe in population control just because I want to have two kids of my own. It's an issue I've discussed thoroughly with other people and I've always fought for population control. Even in China where they have population control, at least they are allowed to have one child and pay for the others.

johnson232:

Why hinting on adoption when u haven't even gotten married?
U think adopting a child is a decision u can make alone without serious discussions with ur partner?
Do u know if he is gonna support the idea? Or do u have problems with ur womb?
How old are u?

Of course I know adoption is a serious issue to discuss with a spouse. I also know that it's something I'm going to do anyway. Besides it's not something I hide in day to day discussion. My future husband would be someone who already knows my stance on the issue. And no I don't have a problem with my womb. I don't have to explain my life to you. This isn't what the thread was about.

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all4naija:

Men who can't marry women having big dreams are not gentle to me. Jeez!

Excepting you want us to end this conversation. You don't really believe in gender equality. I know that and I can feel it in my bone.

You have convinced me 100% that feminism is the work of the devil and is a cult designed to overthrow men

You've also described me a 100% in this conversation. It's like you know me better than myself

I have thoroughly enjoyed this conversation with you let's never have one again

And happy Nigerian independence day!!

(I'm 5"4 why?)

all4naija:

I know something about you. You are a feminist. If the men you have dated don't treat you right and believe you are secondary that make them not to be descent guys.

I like when people hate me a lot, most especially, ignorant feminists like you. Bwahaha...

Sorry, I didn't ask for the independence greetings in the first place.

They don't treat me badly. They can be gentlemen but it just irks me when they make comments about women being secondary and how they can't marry a woman with big dreams.

You didn't answer my question. If I say I'm not a feminist, will you stop insulting me and making false assumptions as to my character?

all4naija:
My ribs hurt for laughing out loud. I almost hit my head on the desk. You are the funniest feminist without direction that I have ever seen. When you couldn't get a date from a descent guy you started joining advocacy groups to see if you will get happiness from there. Then you build up this utopia where you will live with 2 kids and adopt others from baby boomers just to satisfy yourself of increasing the earth population. I think instead of jailing you to waste tax-payer money you should be put to the gallows for trying to put the world in dangerous position. I mean that as a joke. Please, don't take it personal and start crying again. I hope you would understand as a feminist that is superior to men. Bwahaha...

I never said feminism is a religion, I said it has become like a religion to you. What I mean by that is the way you have pre-occupied yourself with it and trying to use it as a means to an end. That's what religionists do also. They use the process of religion to seek gods which doesn't exist.

Having a descent boyfriend is not a pre-requisite to happiness but it is a recipe for happiness as a lady. You are trying to challenge nature by not seeking for a descent guy like myself(civilized and organized) wherever you are and that by definition is another crime that's very punishable by jail sentence. Hahaha...

All African women are not the same but they aren't so much different as well. By their phenotype they are easily recognizable and the same can be said of the genotype. Perhaps they are different in dispositions and culture. Those are not important to this discussion and you don't have to give excuses for them, whatsoever!

For families that want to make babies should be ready to pay dearly for them. They should be heavily taxed by the society for putting pressure on resources and the environment. Also be ready to contribute to educating others on depopulation and one child to a family plan so that the earth can heal in the future. We are preparing a very dangerous future for the kids. If we don't start acting now we are going to put their lives in danger. Claiming to love children and destroying their future at the same time is an unforgivable hypocrisy. You need to desist from it as a feminist(a lady that's superior to men).

You can adopt children without having to produce two kids of your own thereby reducing the population by two. That makes you a good person but if you do otherwise you are a bad person. Meanwhile, I didn't say you convince anybody to have kids. I said you will adopt the children from those you possibly encouraged to produce babies. That is more or less an emphasis from me on your wrong view to increase the earth population and ignoring its consequences.

There are laws which guide adopting children in different countries and I don't know much about that. I would have to read one or more information on that before I can answer that question. You ask too much question though. Aren't you a feminist that is superior to men? However, you didn't misunderstand my jail term punishment for planning to have kids. It is a Dysphemism and nothing more than that.

For the few time I have spent debating with you here I have come to know a lot about you as a self-acclaimed feminist without having idea of what it is.

I hope you aren't going to cry like a baby again. Bwahaha...

You really don't know anything about me. You talk like I've never had a descent boyfriend before. I never said I haven't met nice good Nigerian guys. I mentioned that the only issue I had with the ones I've met is that they tend to believe women are second to them.

Anyway, I'm tired of this conversation because it's not going to achieve anything. It's only vexing me and I'm not used to this and quite frankly I don't like you very much. I actually think you have serious problems. If I say I'm no longer a feminist, will you end this conversation?

(And happy nigerian independence )

all4naija:

No, it is not! I never said it is either. You are the one making a mountain out of a molehill from having babies in overpopulated world. The fact that you don't have a single idea of the world population and the probable consequences on the earth survival makes me wonder if you even know what you are talking about. You want to mess up this earth further. Instead of you educating people on depopulation you are here planning to have 2 kids and adopt another from somebody you possibly encouraged to produce more. Jeez!

It's not a rocket science to understand the kind of person that you are from your posts. Aren't you an African woman? Please... Let's leave that trivial part of the argument alone and discuss on the issue of feminism at hand. Which has become like a religion to you and the food you eat. What more can I say when you gladly pride yourself for being a feminist?! Huh!

I don't see you as somebody 'naturally happy' because you don't have a descent boyfriend yet. So what are you now happy about more than the wrong ideology of feminism?

On the final note, you can't wish me a happy independence day with those frowns and msschew. That wish is hard to swallow, lady. You aren't equal until you learn to accept gender equality not feminism.

Thank you.

Feminism isn't a religion to me. Yes, I am a part of a feminist group but I'm also a part of a child help group. I'm also a part of the YMCA here in Calgary. I'm also a part of the Y7G Aboriginal Appreciation group here in Calgary. I'm also a part of the Urhobo-Isoko association of Calgary. Do I worship any of them as a religion? No. They are simply things I believe in.

Other things I feel I should mention:

A boyfriend isn't a prerequisite to being happy.

Are all African women the same?

I'm very knowledgeable about the world population.
I'm also knowledgeable about the fact that procreation isn't solely for the means of populating the earth but also for personal and emotional reasons.

Should all people that want to procreate be jailed?

If I adopt then I'm a bad person now? And where did I say anything about convincing someone to get pregnant so that I can adopt their kids? Can't I walk into an adoption home and adopt kids? And you DID say that having kids should be a criminal offence or did I read this wrong: "I think you need to be jailed for planning to increase the population and for planning to put more pressure on the environment."

You don't know me so please stop taking personal attacks at me

all4naija:

Oh, yeah! Here you go again with your randomness. When are you going to make sense for once? Jeez! I can't believe a smart lady as you can't make good use of her mental faculty to understand that feminism is completely out of line with gender equality when it goes beyond to discriminate men.

Please, you have been using that divorce-and-pregnancy point to make excuses for your inability to comprehend what I have been saying here. That is a big shame on you. I don't even see you posts as insults to me but more of disrespect to people when you keep denying the facts of this matter and at the same time telling people what to do.

I couldn't help laughing at 'may-you-never-have-children part' of your post. Indeed, the world population is more of a burden on resources and you expect me to procreate and increase the population. I think you need to be jailed for planning to increase the population and for planning to put more pressure on the environment. In this overpopulated earth you still see having kids as complimentary. Oh, my goodness! This lady is still living in the prehistoric time. This is actually one of the reasons why you are easily brainwashed by the ideology of feminism. Bwahaha...

There is nothing wrong in losing your cool here but you have to do it from a civilized angle. I see you as a primitive African woman who still can't wrap her head over modern irrefutable notion like gender equality, feel threatened due to inferior complex and quickly align yourself with feminists to feel good. I can see why you are not so happy after all. If you really want to support gender equality you must treat it as such - as something based on both genders(the male and female sex). You are only asking for something you know it is not going to go down well with your wrong ideology.

You can cry me a river and I am not going to pay attention to it. Not until you start acting as somebody who is equal to men and stop thinking you are superior I am not going to take you serious here nor would I treat you as my equal. Sorry to say that to you. But, I treat other ladies equal as I am but not a crying baby like you. Boohoo!

You can't believe in gender equality and at the same time be a feminist. It doesn't make sense.

So wanting to have kids should be a criminal offence now? the funny thing is that I made up my mind a long time ago that I would adopt children as well as have two of my own. Since having children is such a burden and a crime, go and tell your mother that she is a criminal for giving birth to you. You're so delusional. You don't even know me and you've determine that I'm a "Primitive African Woman who can't wrap her head around the notion of gender equality". How many times have I said that I represent the notion of gender equality? I don't understand how someone like you who is obviously well educated can't understand that feminism stands for gender equality and not female domination.

I feel you know you're wrong but you won't just admit it at this point. And by the way, I am a VERY naturally happy person. It's people like you who are so passionate and arrogant in your ignorance of what issues such as feminism are that anger me.

You're so godda.mm immature too. Are you seriously calling me a baby? Are you twelve?

Happy Nigerian Independence Day msschew

all4naija:


You have no argument there. You are fond of ranting like somebody who is under the influence. I can't believe you claim to be feminist and at the same time has this explosive insulting manner of a ghetto b i t c h! You know what I am taking about. No descent guy is going to put up with it or accept that from somebody who is demanding for equality with impudence. Please, stop be petulant because you aren't making sense in this your very post.

It is clear you hate to hear the right view on how wrong you are on your highly held ideology that is taking you to no where importance. The earlier you realize that the better for you to understand there is really some emptiness in you that needs to be filled with knowledge of the real world that you live in. You alone cannot fight this gender equality you preach about in the form of feminism while discriminating men by lying about how they address you here and how the society tries to hold you back from achieving your aim. This is 21st century and if you still believe everybody that disagrees with your feminine propensity to discriminate is your enemy then you can be my guest. I am not going to stand and continue to pat you in the back when you are going wrong - from the angle you address the issue from.

I can buy you a drink any day if you can really prove beyond refutable fact that feminism as an ideology doesn't discriminate men. I am not done with you yet because there is lot of things that needs to be inculcated into your thick skull. It is becoming unbearable to have a heated debate with you on the ground of equality.


You don't have to cry all the time, lady.

Stay there with your blind hatred for feminists. Don't use sense. You even rant as much as I do. There's nothing you will tell me regarding feminists that I will accept. I've told you that in every ideology there are extremists. I am not an extremist I do not hate men and I don't go around insulting males because I have general respect for human beings. I've only insulted you because you were the first one to dish out insults (May I divorce during pregnancy. May you never see children). Lord knows I've never lost my cool the way I have here which doesn't even make sense because we're promoting the same thing! On a final note: I believe in gender equality therefore I am a feminist.

bstringz:
@keen, @beastofallnation
You both, made the same point in how I know "My God" is the one true God.
Now, do u believe in the existence of the Devil? I doubt if you don't believe in the existence of a God you would believe in the existence of the devil. That's why some of the things I would say now to you may sound posposterous just as the concept of God also sounds like that to you.

Now when the Muslims and traditionalists tells you Allah or Amadioha is the one true god. Don't throw it away yet. Pick up the quaran, pick up the bible(preferably the new testament), pick up also the Jewish Torah. Now do a study and ask the one true God to reveal himself to you. As you read them

The devil manipulates nature, if u read the Bible and some studies you would find out that the devil was thrown out of heaven due to his disobedience and when he fell he took with him about 1third of the angels and they became demons. Now the devil rules the earth, hence the need for the second coming of christ.
Devil and his demons has so much manipulated human beings that the devil had made people worship all sort of things (gods). This doesn't make them GOD. HENCE the numerous gods we have today. They are all manipulations of the devil. The devil craves worship, he wants to be worshipped like God but I bet if he comes in his true form and character, nobody would worship him so he disguises in form of sango, Amadioha, e. t. c and does "good" and people worship hereby decieving people

Even Jesus tells us that we should be beware that Satan can come in form of an angel of light.

Don't be deceived all this other gods are not God. The human mind loves to work and so the the need to create this things. But in the spiritual anything we attach any form of worship to becomes a god. Humans started attaching worship to stones, birds and the devil sees this as an opportunity to be worshipped.

Christian origin stated from the roman empire spread down to the geeks and spread further in Europe. So don't u think it's only normal for the white men to have brought us Christianity.
Though their motives were not pure. But christ sees this as an opportunity to reach out to the black men who were busy worshipping stones and rocks.

There is only one God. And that God is the God of the bible. Not Allah, not Amadioha. You can only reach God through Jesus Christ because he is God.

To your question @keen. The boy is physically challenged. So he's parents should seek for him if they love him
The human challenge is sin and do u know that God has already seek for you, he came down and died for you, felt what u felt went through the same challenges as you so he could understand you. Ain't that seeking? He's made himself available. He's already at the hospital bed (if he were the boys parent) standing next to the bed. The boys part in the seeking is just for him to open his eyes and see Jesus standing next to him

So keen Jesus has already seek you by dying for you, your part in the seeking ain't hard just accept him and that's all... Bam!! So easy and your automatically a friend of God. Christ doesn't want to "rule" you. He wants to be your friend. You have nothing to lose if at the end christ is myth (he's not) if u accept him. But think of just what if Christ (God) really exists (He does) what would u have to say. You have everything to lose

Cheers.

You say black men were busy worshipping stones and rocks. As opposed to now where we're supposed to worship the air and a crucified dead man. Please I don't want to offend but I just wanted to point that out Why could God not find a more peaceful way to spread his religion? Before Christ, the Jews suffered for being God's people. When Christ came, he suffered on the cross. After he died, the Catholics suffered and were killed for practicing their religion in Rome. After the fall Rome, Charlemagne forcefully converted people to Christianity or threatened to beheaded them if they chose otherwise. During the medieval ages, common folk in Europe suffered under the rule of the Catholic church. During the Holy Crusades, many black people were taken from West Africa, tortured, enslaved, killed and forcefully converted to Christianity. During the Holocaust, most of the world's Jewish population was wiped out in concentration camps. Aboriginal people in Canada were almost completely wiped out by 'Christian' people and then the children were put in residential catholic schools where the nuns and priests would routinely abuse them. The world's current situation where countless Muslims are running away from their homes because terrorist groups are suicide bombing and trying to kill them. What is the benefit of the Abrahamic religions again? Please answer it for me because I don't know.

bstringz:


Jesus=God. God=Jesus
Jesus came to earth as God-man. He was God but in human form.
When he made that statement he wasn't saying it from the God
Point of view. He was saying it knowing he was a man here on earth.

The sun and gravity which u make reference of was made by God. So the sun is as certain as God is.
Yes, she speaks of God Cos she has encountered him. I don't know you now cos I haven't had an encounter with you. Until I seek an encounter with you, I won't know you.
So why don't u seek an encounter with God. Then that way u would know him. If u honestly and open mindedly seek he would reveal himself to you, he wants to. He loves you even if you don't love him he still loves you.
So am by evidences concerning the existence of God. But lemme wait for her to share some with you and I would also share mine.

Cheers.

But every other religion says the same thing. I could replace 'God' with 'Alla'h and all the Muslims will agree. I could go to a Jew and he may tell me that I cannot find God through Jesus. I could go to a traditionalist and they may tel me that the traditional gods are the way forward How do I know that the REAL religion is not some unidentified one in some village in Mongolia? The problem with religion is that all of them need you to rely on faith as opposed to evidence. If ANY faith provided pure evidence of a God (as in I met the God myself), then I would believe wholeheartedly

Antiparticle:
@OP:
I have no certainty about the existence of a creator either. But if there is one, he/she/it is definitely not the God of the Bible or Koran or any of the religions marauding themselves as truth. This is not to say I hate religion. I don't. Religion can be good for people if and only if it helps them become better people and lead better lives.

Unfortunately, almost every religion claims that it is its own truth claims that are correct, and in order to ensure followership from the masses, most religions uses fear and extortionist tactics to suppress questions and critical thinking. This is what I have my biggest problem with.

Religion in Nigeria (particularly Pentecostal Christianity which I was once an avid part of), unfortunately has created a people who prefer superstition over science and elevate prayers over hard work.

Also, if God exists, he/she/it wouldn't make it so hard to find him/her/it. It makes no sense for a God to make so many threats against unbelievers yet refuse to provide clear, convincing, unfakeable, and unquestionable evidence to prove his/her/its existence.

My conclusion is thus:
1. If the Abrahamic God exists, and "He" indeed plans to punish me for not believing in "Him" (in spite of "His" refusal to provide me unfakeable evidence to pacify my earnest search for "Him" ), then "He" is a psychopathic entity that I wouldn't want to worship anyways. Think about it, does it make any sense that most Christians in the world today (including in Africa, South America, and even many European countries) are so solely because their ancestors were conquered by murderers, enslavers, colonialists, and tyrants?

2. If certain populations would go to hell because they aren't Christians (e.g. because their ancestors weren't conquered by other Christian nations), then either the Christian God (who supposedly is a God of justice) is not just or He doesn't exist. Either way, I'm not interested in worshiping an unjust entity or a nonexistent God. The preponderance of evidence points to the likelihood that a personal & interventionist God (a la the Bible or Koran) doesn't exist.

3. The Bible, both in the Old and New Testaments, speak of an interventionist God. I used to be a passionate Christian. But as a science-oriented person with training in statistics and physics, from observation I have now realized that miracles do not happen. Jesus said those that follow him would perform similar miracles and signs and wonders as he did. There hasn't been any unquestionable miracle (e.g. growing back of amputated limb). The only "miracles" I hear of are miracles that could equally be attributed to coincidence or placebo. Prayers, too, don't get answered... it took me a while to figure this one out too... the only prayers that get answered are for the things that one didn't need prayer for in the first place. Sigh. If the Christian God exists, then "He" is not even following his own standards as laid out in the Bible therefore he is not all-powerful which implies he is either a liar, a weakling, or doesn't exist. I don't worship liars.

If a creator exists, I don't think he/she/it cares about us. Or maybe he/she/it is dead. Or maybe there is no metaphysical anthropomorphic personal interventionist God in the way that we think about it.

I could go on and on and on....

Oh my goodness! I agree with you 100% You've summed up so much of what I've felt about the Abrahamic Gods for some years now. Religion and spirituality are beautiful in their own right and I encourage everyone to be spiritual but I personally do not believe in the Abrahamic religions. I feel they are all hypocritical in their teachings at times and that always threw me off I'm an agnostic myself because I just admit that I don't know whether there is a supreme deity or not. There are things that are just too complex to understand right now

all4naija:

Give it up! You aren't going to see the truth in what he wrote because you ignore it and here you are telling him, a well expressed writer, to talk to guys. That is very rude of you. This idea you carry about that you have the right to insult any man and cry foul when your are served your best medicine is unacceptable.

You know what You're Stu.pid. you're very stupid and ignorant and you don't know when to accept that you're wrong. I VERY CLEARLY ACCEPTED WHAT HE SAID AND SAID HE SHOULD ADDRESS THE GUYS WHO SPECIFICALLY THINK WOMEN ARE INFERIOR. DID I MENTION YOU?? IF YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT ONE THEN SHUT UP AND GET OFF THE THREAD BECAUSE IT DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. This thread is addressing misogynistic males. If you are not one then I'm not talking to you. I'm specifically asking why some guys don't believe in gender equality. I'm done talking to you. I easily easily easily agreed with him. I've been shouting gender equality since. The only person that is ignorant here is you because even when both of us are saying the same thin, you will disagree with me.

Don't tell me that I'm rude when you go around insulting people you don't know and telling them they will divorce while pregnant. I've been saying men and women are equal and anything a man can do a woman can do also. I have EASILY shown you that I believe in gender equality yet you STILL attack me. WHY When did I attack all males. Did I not say he should specifically address the guys who don't beloved in gender equality? I already believe in it so there's nothing new he's telling me that I don't already know. My issue is that you people don't seem to know what a Feminist means. @all4naija let's end this conversation because neither of us are going to agree on this issue. later you will say I'm crying after you've insulted me for no reason.

idbusah:


Everyone is already equal regardless of gender. Masculine and feminine exist to complement each other and not to compete against each other. Males have their functions and so do females or haven't you wondered why all humans don't belong to the same gender?

The equality is there already. Feminism is just a phenomenon created by humans and we have seen all the confusion it has brought about.
You say men are ego driven and believe they are superior to the women but I'll tell you this: Men are simply being what they are. I don't want to infuse too much religious talks in my argument but since the world's inception, man was first created and he was directed to lead- that was his primary assignment and then the woman was later created to accompany him and also for humans to multiply on earth (reproduction ). But of course, over the course of many many years, humans have learned new things and experienced a lot of incidents which have resulted in both genders (especially the females) taking roles which they were not "hard wired " for. In the course of history, we've seen women and girls achieve great feats in politics, science, arts, sports, e.t.c. Women have led religious groups, tribes, nations and even armies on the battlefield!

The funny thing is that most of the things that bring about arguments such as this are coming from the west (white people!). For example, before the advent of slave trade and colonialism, there were certain indigenous rites and rituals that we africans HAPPILY performed until the white people came to our land and told us that our cultural practices are bizzare and wrong and we nodded our heads in gullibility. Fast forwarding to a more recent time, the western governments, through their institutionalized media, kept pushing that homosexual relationships are a good thing and now we have gay activists in Africa- I'm not condemning LGBT because I believe in God but because it is not correct in all aspects and it doesn't in any way conform with common sense.

Now back to the topic, I strongly believe that you (op) have made this post based on your personal experiences with Nigerian men- the Nigerian men you've met. But I can assure you that not all Nigerian men- not all men believe they are superior to their feminine counterparts. The ego drive in men is a natural thing just as the show of emotions in women. But still, not all men are ego driven and not all women show emotions.

Although, there are men who push their ego drive beyond limits and that seems to be the category of men you've met, they might have reasons for this sort of behavior such as; upbringing, insecurities, past experiences, e.t.c. (as earlier comments have stated) OR they simply believe they should always lead in every situation as it is their primary role in the society and then they take this belief to the extreme. Not all men are like this.

Women also play very important roles in the society but the advent of movements such as feminism has blinded women from seeing how important they are even when they are not doing the heavy duties, professional jobs, or occupying political offices.

The simple truth about feminism is that it was created by a group of women who had contradictory motives as to TRUE equality. The success of feminism was possible through convincing speeches and sentiments from other females that listened to the its proponents.

Don't let a movement created by a gang of radical and desperate white women make you believe you are not equal to a man until tag yourself a feminist or call out for equality. YOU ARE ALREADY EQUAL.

I know men and women are equal. That is what I've been shouting since. My question was addressing why some men believe that isn't so. I'm not the person you should be telling this to. Talk to some of the guys above that believe women should be submissive slaves and are merely a support system for when men fall from their rise to the top.

Kingsley1000:
so you want me to unleash our secret to you?you better experience it

What if I live the rest of my life without knowing? Teacher please tell me some of the ways

KingRaoul:


But girls cannot admire from afar all yall do is hate from afar

You asked for my opinion. I gave you my opinion and now you're saying it's a lie. what I said is true for me.