₦airaland Forum

ObaIgwe1:
I don't give a damm about bobrisky or whatever he is... But his choice and ways of living is not why any Nigerian is suffering.

Trump is not the reason Nigerians are suffering, he will not be the reason they will enjoy too. Nigeria's fate is in the hands of Nigerians.

We have better things to worry about. Obama coming to Africa to push gay nonsense is a disgrace.

When SNL starts making skits that it was a coup that got Biden to step aside, you know something is wrong.

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1845318967390298598?t=OHEshtCPXVb6c7tcPHMYrQ&s=19

raumdeuter:
What has that visit done for us?

GW Bush administration a Republican one championed debt cancelation for many African countries. That is a concrete policy that benefitted Africans

What did Obama do aside destabilize Libya which indirectly caused insecurity problems in sub Sahara

The visiti gave Nigerians bobrisky

ObaIgwe1:
What has Trump ever done for Africa? I doubt the guy has ever step foot in any Africa soil. Nothing in his words show love or concern for Africa but hatred and negative bias.

At least Obama's father is from Africa, the guy visited Africa both as private citizen and as American president and he doesn't talk shit about us.

Like SA president said of recent, it is an illusion to think Africa is just here waiting for handouts from the west. What we need in Africa are genuine partners in Africa... Certainly that partnership will not come from someone like Trump.

Is he the president of Africa? People have what motivates them. Trump was the symbol of hustling for many people, including Black Americans.

He was a respected man we see on TV all the time. Where is the partnership from the left? Aside from gay rights, Obama is to blackmail Africa; what partnership has come out from the left?

What about Joe Biden? What is his legacy in Africa?

raumdeuter:
Is an election about who denigrates you or who makes your life better? Many adults don't give 2 hoots what you call them as long as you make their lives better. It's not a contest for who calls me lovable names but whose policies make their lives better

Most people have never met Trump and will never. They don't care what he calls them as long as his policies make their lives better

We are not children or insecure that name calling hurts us

Pick one
1 call you lovely and adorable names but policies make you poorer and you don't believe in it

Or 2 calls you names and his policies make your life better, economically and more secure

Obaigwe1 you are an angel you are beautiful but no job for you, your kids can transition in school without your knowledge, your daughters have to use bathrooms of men and play in boys teams, your home is not secure because Democrats have decriminalized crime, there is inflation where you can't afford what you used to.
But remember I call you beautiful and handsome

That's why despite trying to paint Trump as a rapist, felon, and many more charges, people still say when Trump was around, the economy was better.

The first thing Kamala said when she became the front runner was to say she knows Trump type, that she has prosecuted them. Calling him a felon based on their lawfare to take him down.

A40:
Where has Trump denigrated Africa or Africans? Show us one speech, one video

If he says Nigeria is a shithole. Is he wrong? How many people truly disagree with that comment. Or are you just angry cos Trump said it

And I will keep asking. What has the Democrat party done for Africa and Africans? What did Obama and Biden-Harris do for blacks and Africans to command support

I am tired of telling them Nigeria is a shithole. It is a term we use to say a place is unpleasant. He is not wrong. IjeBos will never visit Haiti to spend a night or relocate to Nigeria. He knows the reason because he sees people in Nigeria as lower people compared to him based on location alone.

ObaIgwe1:
What makes it acceptable for Trump telling the Jews supporting Kamala to have their heads examined?

To all politicians, they expect all groups and race to support them. It's the reason they are campaigning.

He is not talking based on their skin color, he is talking based on the fact the democrats are in support of Hamas, and they are being attacked in colleges. He picked a side and told them who to vote. He is a candidate Obama is not. Saying they should supporter her because she is black makes no sense. What has she done for them?

Also, they gave trump heat when he said that.

ObaIgwe1:
Lol. I understand your shock. I will explain it to you why some of these Nigerians support Trump who doesn't give a damm about their existence.

For the likes of raumdeuter, he is a conservative who naturally supports his conservative ideas and party. Deep down in his mind he would have preferred a real conservative candidate to Trump... But for now he is stuck with Trump like many others in his party.

But for these Nigerians in Nigeria supporting Trump, it started in 2015 after Obama gave a speech before the Nigeria election encouraging Nigerians to go out en mass and vote and sustain democracy. Some Nigerians took it that Obama was interfering with Nigeria election and campaigning against Jonathan's ruling party. When Jonathan eventually lost the election some members of his party (not all) blame and hated Obama and his party. Since then they will rather support Trump who insults them than support anyone Obama supports.

Your reason does not make sense. Trump has been in the spotlight for ages. They see him as a business man, worlds richest man and his appearance on TV.

That's one of the main reason they support him. Nigeria is a very conservative country that does not like LGBT crazies the left pushes. This is not much of their problem, Obama took heat from Kenya when he was pushing those nonsense.

If you reason is to be considered, obama was not running against trump, Hillary was, then Joe Biden. Those are not the people connected to the reason you gave.

People who follow us politics either hates Trump or support him. Most of them who hates him subscribe to the lgbt nonsense and believe anything they see in the news. In Nigeria, they see cnn and BBC.

raumdeuter:
We don't believe you, you need more people

Jay-Z 😀

ObaIgwe1:
True. That still doesn't stop those campaigning to ask why and find out their reasons and see if there are things that can be done or say to convince them otherwise.

Also the idea that everyone has brain and can reason for him or herself is limited. We only make decision base on the amount of knowledge we have and we can be sincerely wrong if our knowledge is limited, this is why we keep learning and listening to others, sometimes change our mind and decisions with more information or contrary facts and evidence, because no one knows it all. So Obama asking the campaign office to find out why the bros are changing their position is in order. Remember that remark was made at the campaign office, not at the rally.

So to me, that's the way to acknowledge there's a problem, address the problem by asking questions and have sensible debate with the bros and address their grievances.

Telling them it is not acceptable that they are not supporting Harris is crazy. Who is he to tell them that? Their father or their god? Telling them it is becuase of sexism not because of what they have seen in the past 3.5 years and not because of she is very unlikable, sexism is the reason is nonsense.

Most of these people have dedicated their lives in voting Democrats but what have they gotten in return?

Every year the admin spend billions taking care of illegal, making sure they are clothed, housed and eat. What do they do for the black Americans? NOTHING, their vote is guaranteed so why bother?

A40:
Now I see why you're a diehard KaWaffler disciple.

Master obfuscator typing long winded nonsense.

You are a completely lost individual suffering from Stockholm syndrome in love with your Democrat party chains.

I have no business with you or your politics. All I did was highlight actual black men leaving the Democrat plantation enmasse cos they can see that this version of that party has nothing for them, so much so that Barack Obummer has had to resort to shaming tactics to try to get them back in the fold. This would not have been necessary if black men were not going rogue

So spare me your history lesson. And go and face the black men all over social media that have vocally said they are not down with Kamala or the ones that have explicitly said they're voting Trump. And stop wasting energy on me. I have no real dog in the fight. This is just one of thousands of videos of Black men saying they want no parts of Kamala.

You're not blacker than these men. You're not even black, your ancestors were not slaves. I'm not even pro FBA but I can see their argument now. Clowns like you and Obummer should not be fit to question their blackness just cos they don't support a party that's useless to them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjMynW5Yhbg?si=khVgKf8QGnpY7Neg

And oh the irony of you a Democrat plantation slave calling someone a coon. You're even worse than a coon. You have no independent thought. Monkey see monkey do.

This one is homeless because of kamala and her illegals aliens

‼️Jeremy Says.‼️ he works but is forced to live homeless right now due to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's economy, so Barack Obama telling him to vote for the person who put him in his current situation is not happening. pic.twitter.com/LbOyDdsuZA

— Jason American Patriot™ (@TruthJasonLee) October 12, 2024

IjeBos:
You don't matter as you are neither a US citizen nor live in the US.
Yet here you are spending days and nights here.

Your vote will only count on one of those battleground states. You are irrelevant.

IjeBos:
Vote Cast.
Harris-Waltz 2024

Your vote does not mean anything. The battles are somewhere else

IjeBos:
So, let me understand.
You don't live in the US, so don't have the context to understand the racism that black people in the US face, in fact have probably never faced racism.
You don't live in the US, I'm assuming you didn't grow up in the US, so most likely didn't take a US history course. So, don't understand the unique history or the people/groups that made it possible for black people to have a semblance of equality. And those groups that still fight for more equality today.

So, if I'm understanding you, your argument is that you are qualified to speak on what Black people should do in the US because you "feel" a certain way about it. You don't think that is the height of arrogance?

I keep saying this, it's hard to understand a culture if you've never been there or experienced it. It's hard to understand racism if you've never existed in a place teeming with it. At some point you have to accept, you don't know what you don't know and speak from that perspective.

Dude, you are an idiot.
What's the point of Kamala running if it's about racism? Raumdeuter comes and schools this victim again. His medication has run out

raumdeuter:
The next rally Obama attends he likely will tone it down cos the reception to this one looked like an own goal

Biden will likely be pleased to see Harris lose to Trump. His mistake has prompted more black people to speak out on social media, which will likely influence others in the black community.

raumdeuter:
Her black support is lower than what Biden Hillary and even Obama got.

Any reason?

trump has 30 to 40% of the black vote in New York

Budaatum, see more pussy talk. The sky is falling

ObaIgwe1:
I honestly don't know why some people are taking this Obama's remark out of context. No where did Obama say black men should just vote for Kamala simply because she is black. His take is that the other person is someone who denigrates them, that is exactly his words... so he wonders why he will be an option not because he is white but simply because of his toxicity especially towards blacks.

Maybe you watched a different video. Just because he didn't say bold verbatim does not mean he did not say something that means that.

budaatum:
Yes you do need to educate black men and belittle and patronise them, unless it is okay with you that black men are out there p diddying.

Should we not protect our daughters from pigs, and our men from going to prison?

Obama played his race card presidentially if you ask me. He has 2 daughters afterall, and he very rarely plays it.

they were educated since they were born. Obama 8 years, trump 4 years, and Biden's, they are heavily educated to know these democrats don't care about them especially how they put illegals first.

budaatum:
Problem is they are not thinking.

They are p diddying!

If they think the way you want, then they are thinking? It is not like it isn't a multiple-choice question.

Doylestown92:
What you drink there is different from what you will drink here. Everything is substandard in that country called Nigeria.

I don't understand. Do you know me? how do you know I drink something there compared to something here

IjeBos:
Do you live in the US?
Why do I ask? Because the experience of a Black person who lives in the US is different than a black person who lives in Nigeria.
So, I'm trying to understand what perspective you bring to this.

No matter where you live, no politician with millions should belittle a black man because of a drop in support for his party. If they were doing things right they would have secured more support.

I asked you not to speak if you cannot use reasoning but the dumb will be dumb.

what secret? What is the difference between the two

basilico:
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Diversion on Obama. Project Cassandra was an investigation into Hezbolla drug running and money laundering ventures in the world. They would get cash in America after shipping in drugs, buy cars or steal them and send them to Africa. Or launder the money through banks. There were stolen cars tracked in Nigeria at the height.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

DOJ stopped the investigation so as not to jeopardize the Iran nuclear deal. Politico is left centre biased but sometimes quite factual, a name caught my attention.Excerpt.
Project Cassandra agents and other investigators sought repeatedly to investigate and prosecute Abdallah Safieddine.... Hezbollah’s longtime envoy to Iran who allegedly oversaw the group's “Business Affairs Component” involved in international drug trafficking., Hezbollah’s longtime envoy to Iran, whom they considered the linchpin of Hezbollah’s criminal network, the Justice Department refused,

Abdallah Safieddine
His brother Hashem Safrddine was Nasrallah successor who was killed hours after taking over😁😁😁😁😁

Obama is connected to do many crap that is wrong with this world

IjeBos:
I guess black men should instead respect people like Mark Robinson or Trump?
You seem to hate Obama, why?

They are free to think for themselves that is the point. Obama is a nobody to start dictating how people think. No one is asking anyone to like trump. try to use reasoning before you post nonsense.

After you will come and say the destruction of a city has direct variation to the number of deaths. Nonsense

“Y’all wanna know what maturing look like? Maturing is realizing the Democratic Party was always bullsh*t!”

“They ain’t never help black people.”

“I’m voting for Trump! F*ck that!

America is waking up 🔥🔥🔥 @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/J3t4dkIhHi

— TONY™ (@TONYxTWO) October 12, 2024

A40:
The wool has fallen over most people's eyes. Obama has been disliked for a long time amongst other people in other parts of the world. It's refreshing to see now that the blacks are also seeing him for what he is.

The patronage and condescending tones. If the FBAs call him a tether I'm not even going to hold them cause he really has a lot of nerve

"Vote Blue cos we say so"

Happy to see black men are not going for that nonsense

Most of his support comes from woke liberal white people. It'll be racist if they don't support him. The ones Malcolm X warned about

A40:
I see the Dems sent the Warden in Chief Barack Obama to shame Black men to returning back to the Democrat plantation.

The sheer hubris of these jokers. To think his voice still holds sway among black men

I don't know how any straight black man with his manhood intact still supports a party that feels that entitled to his vote despite doing nothing for him and being anti everything he stands for.

Can you imagine Trump shaming white men for voting Kamala. The outrage that would have sparked

Like he did yesterday and Biden tying your blackness to whether you vote Democrat in 2020.

The irony is more white women will actually vote for Trump than black men but as usual it's Jermaine's fault

He is losing respect and rightly so from the backlash that follows.

Obama thinks he is the messiah and he still believes that sadly. He just told us what they think about black men when you put what he said in context. The context is Biden saying if you don't vote for him you ain't black.

Forget about what we do, forget our policies, forget our politics, forget your sufferings, you are black you must vote us.

Budaatum see your girlfriends

"Are you guys proud to be American?"

"It depends." pic.twitter.com/JDgFPzSqJ8

— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) October 11, 2024

Why are black men being belittled, CNN panel
https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1844696114043158747?t=Nli93CowyzG8QD4JPa9JsQ&s=09

raumdeuter:
You can use the same analogy for Blacks must vote for a black candidates, But when its a non black person how does it sound?

Barack Obama who is worth 75m and more says it is unacceptable to vote any other way. he is telling blacks like he owns them. this is the problem with the democrat party. they think people are under their control. this is why they say if you don't have dual decision making when it comes to voting only dems, you are on the plantation and it is unacceptable to think for yourself.

How the world works; women vote for kamala because they are women no problem, men vote for Trump because they are men = sexism, mysogyny, racism

basilico:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/10/there_will_never_be_a_two_state_solution.html

it will never work. they are in limbo