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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:04am On May 21
Common sense. You can't throw money into a fire and expect it to put out the flames.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:48am On May 21
She still has her voting rights
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:45am On May 21
raumdeuter:
Meanwhile the Democratic senate candidate in Maine was wishing for the capture and killing of American soldiers by the taliban

They hate America

Trump is nazi but they are spending millions on their nazi candidate
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:27am On May 21
You guys should enjoy him
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:23am On May 21
So much common sense in one video

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:25am On May 21
raumdeuter:
Talarico is toast in Texas. I expect Paxton to hammer him

He would be exposed in the main election

He is saying that God is non binary
He hates steak in Texas
He wants the border to be an open porch
He believes there are 6 genders
He is Beto 2.0
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:45am On May 21
Trump: 37 - 0 on his endorsement. That's crazy.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:57am On May 21
bayelsaowei:
He maybe repenting oo. .. let’s watch and see.

Right wing media has finished the brains of our black brothers.

I recently argued with a colleague of mine and I could tell they are all downloading a lot of rubbish from the same source into their brains.

It’s sickening.
Why do you believe your stance is correct?

When people distort what others say to make their argument seem reasonable, that's itself insanity.

Maybe your colleague isn't the brainwashed one. Have you thought about that?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:27am On May 21
DeepSight:
It is scientifically impossible for an adult human being never to have made a selfish decision in his life.
The rest - not interested. You lie too much and you are going back on things you already vociferously argued.
You are the one lying and mischaracterizing what I said.

Maybe either you don’t understand English, or you are deliberately rewriting my point so you can argue with something easier.

This is what I said:
bemeruca:
Am not claiming to be morally perfect. Nobody is.

The point is not that I personally have never made a selfish decision.

The point is that societies collapse when selfishness, greed, corruption, tribalism, and lack of accountability become normalized at leadership and cultural levels.
So why are you pretending I claimed an adult human being can live without ever making a selfish decision?

Why do you lie so much?
This is why Tctrills and TV01 are also tired of you.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:44pm On May 20
DeepSight:
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This is scientifically impossible. It is also a signal of lack of intelligence that you can claim this.


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Name one thing you have criticized Trump over. A serious thing.
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Name one criticism you have ever levelled at any white communities/ societies.


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Retract this hideous lie immediately. You have been here shouting about how these things do not matter or even do not exist. You have laughed off history, you have played down the relevance of education, you have denied every allegation of the existence of any racism at all, you have denied that colonialism has had any role to play.

Stop trying to change the script, this is hideous dishonesty.
You cannot prove a negative. What are you on about. Goodlawd

You are doing too much emotiona rewriting here.

So what exactly is scientifically impossible?

That education can exist and people still choose corruption?
That educated people can still be greedy?
That educated people can still be tribalistic, racist, selfish, or dishonest?

That is not scientifically impossible. That is being human.

I do not worship Trump. I can criticize Trump on many things. I have criticized Trump. He was not even my choice for the 2024 presidency, it was DeSantis.

But this conversation is not about Trump. You keep dragging Trump in because you want to avoid the internal failures being discussed. Can you go a minute without deflecting to Trump?

What do you mean by white community, whatever your explanation of that is, I have multiple times. From LGBT, to Karens.

Ther is a difference between saying history matters and saying history removes responsibility.

There is a difference between saying colonialism had effects and saying African leaders, culture, corruption, tribalism, greed, and bad governance are not major reasons for failure today.

Your problem is not that I deny every factor you mention.

Your problem is that I refuse to let you use those factors as excuses to avoid the failures inside our own societies.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:29pm On May 20
Am not claiming to be morally perfect. Nobody is.

The point is not that I personally have never made a selfish decision.

The point is that societies collapse when selfishness, greed, corruption, tribalism, and lack of accountability become normalized at leadership and cultural levels.

Supporting a politician or political party does not mean endorsing every bad thing done by that politician or party.

If Trump, Biden, Tinubu, Buhari, Obama, or anyone else acts corruptly, criticize it. I have no wahala with that.

But that still does not answer the point about African leadership, African institutions, black communities, corruption, bad choices, and destructive culture.

This is not moral grandstanding against Africans or AA.

It is criticism of destructive behavior and failed leadership wherever it exists.

If people can criticize white racism, Trump supporters, colonialism, slavery, capitalism, or British history, then they should also be able to criticize black communities, African leaders, tribalism, corruption, fatherlessness, crime, or bad culture without being accused of hatred.

My point is still that education matters, history matters, racism matters, colonialism matters, institutions matter.

But internal choices also matter. Leadership matters. Culture matters. Accountability matters. Family structure matters. Greed and selfishness matter.

If we are serious people, we should be able to discuss all of it without running to or deflecting to you support Trump almost always like Deepsight, bayelsaowei and GracieX3.


cococandy:
You haven’t said a bad thing in this write up. I’ll give you that.


But it seems quite hypocritical given you’re rooting for the people who are making the terrible choices you speak of.

And you yourself can’t brag that you do the right thing when personal interest is at stake. That’s why it’s difficult to take the moral grandstanding you guys perform against African Americans seriously.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:29pm On May 20
cococandy:
You haven’t said a bad thing in this write up. I’ll give you that.


But it seems quite hypocritical given you’re rooting for the people who are making the terrible choices you speak of.

And you yourself can’t brag that you do the right thing when personal interest is at stake. That’s why it’s difficult to take the moral grandstanding you guys perform against African Americans seriously.
I will respond with time later. I am a little busy now.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:28pm On May 20
DeepSight:
Why do you say "education alone?" What is wrong with you? Why do you try to isolate each factor we point out? No matter what we say, you try to pretend we are saying that is the only cause. How many times do I have to shout that there are myriad interlocking factors?

If I talk about history, you will say its in the past. If I talk about climate you will say that is long story. If I talk about colonization you will say I am blaming whites. If I talk about time, you will say laziness. And yet you dare talk about greed, the same greed that is common to humanity and which right nw is on lavish open display with Trump without an iota of condemnation from you and tctrills and co.

No one ever isolated one factor alone and its madness to keep saying "its not this alone, its not that alone" when we all agree its many things.
My problem is with you is that you bring up history, climate, and colonialism mostly to explain failure away from internal responsibility.

But when I bring up greed, corruption, tribalism, poor leadership, disunity, and destructive culture, suddenly you say, greed is common to humanity. Of course greed is common to humanity.

That is exactly why strong institutions, accountability, values, and leadership matter.

Saying greed is common does not answer why some societies control it better than others, while others allow it to destroy public institutions.

And this your Trump deflection don tire person. If Trump is corrupt, condemn him. I that's your shtick, condemning corruption anywhere no problem.

But Trump does not explain Emefiele. Trump does not explain African leaders stealing the oil money.

Trump does not explain tribal voting. Trump does not explain why Nigeria with massive resources still cannot provide basic electricity, roads, security, or clean governance.

So yes, there are many factors. But you cannot list external factors forever and then become offended when internal failures are added to the list. Even your external factors are outdated. Colonialism helped us in many ways.

My argument is not education alone does not fix everything because I think you named only one factor.

My argument is that education, history, colonialism, and climate still do not remove responsibility from people, leaders, cultures, and institutions today.

Why can't you understand this basic thing?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:01am On May 20
GracieX3:
Very relevant to your inferiority complex and worship of the West.

Even as bad as Nigeria is, I would never look down on my fellow blacks just to worship whites in the west
I don't know what you Re talking about.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:35am On May 20
GracieX3:
The USA was formed in 1776. Black people got rights in 1964/1968.
It took USA over 180 years to get sense.

You expect Nigeria to do miracles in 60 years
Irrelevant to what we are talking.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:29am On May 20
GracieX3:
You said Emefiele is greedy in order to bash blacks.

I pointed out thatt Trump is greedy....even greedier.

You ate now silenced to 3 words only. Just admit your cult worship and hypocrisy towards Trump
No, I am not bashing blacks.
I am talking about 60 years of failure to develop after independence you are deflecting to Trump.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:27am On May 20
RodgersAkpafu:
So education also cannot fix white racism, bigotry, fooolishnesss and white hate ?

Because why are supposed "educated" people on the Trump and the Reform UK bandwagon?
Education is not morality.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:23am On May 20
GracieX3:
Does this culture of greed extend to Trump? The 1.7 billion corrupt slush fund?

A billionaire president still enriching his family with us government contracts?

Trump doesn't need more money. His great grandchildren can't even be poor
Deflect to Trump
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:18am On May 20
GracieX3:
Education is not already there
My point is that lack of education does not explain everything, especially today.

Education can improve awareness, but education alone does not fix corruption, bad leadership, broken families, crime, greed, tribalism, or destructive culture.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:12am On May 20
cococandy:
Education is already there but people are still unaware. Means we could use more….. education?

You’re contradicting yourself. If there are variables some people are unaware of, how best do they become aware of not through education? That means that the education is not all there? is it?

I don’t think you guys realize you don’t have to consistently disagree with anyone you think is on the left even when they’re making the same point as you. It’s strange to observe.

I just watched you guys shoot down education as an option because Gracie suggested it. Only to turn around and suggest it to me as if that it was your idea. Now when I point it out to you, you try to backtrack.

It’s exhausting and unreasonable.
You are mixing two different things. And budaatum also has this issue.

When I say education is already there, I am talking about formal education and access to information.

People know corruption is bad. They know tribalism, greed, selfishness, and disunity destroy societies.

This is not some hidden secret that only a university professor can explain.

The problem is not that people have never heard the truth. The problem is that many people know the truth and still choose the wrong thing when money, power, tribe, religion, or personal interest is involved.

See Emefiele as an example. He is not an illiterate man. He is educated, experienced, and had access to every economic expert, etc.

Yet what did that education produce when character, accountability, and national interest were missing?

So no, I am not contradicting myself.

Education can expose wrong thinking, but education alone does not fix character.

You can educate a greedy person and simply produce a smarter thief.

You can educate a tribalist and simply produce someone who justifies tribalism with better grammar.

My point is this - the deeper problem is mindset, culture, values, accountability, and unity.

Education helps, yes, but pretending education alone is the magic solution is shallow.

And when I push back on Deepsight blaming everything on white people, colonialism, or climate, that is also a form of education. I am challenging excuses, exposing weak arguments, and forcing him to confront internal failures.

So the issue is not left or right. The issue is whether we are honest enough to admit that our own choices, leaders, culture, greed, and disunity are major reasons for our problems.

So we have a culture of greed and selfishness in the country.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:34pm On May 19
cococandy:
Ah education. Who was it that said education is important to improve the black community and you guys shut them down. Was it Gracie? I feel like that was just a few posts ago. How interesting.

Okay, I’m assuming that after you finish educating us and we become self aware, it will help us possibly make better choices in life that will most likely make us become better humans like you. I actually don’t mind that solution.

A teacher teaches their students to follow in their footsteps. So what are the specific examples of actions you’re taking in life that we can expect to do too after we receive much needed education from you?
Education is already there. The mindset, the culture it corruption, the disunity, etc. Are variables some people are unaware of.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:39pm On May 19
cococandy:
So what exactly are you doing about it?
You recognized the nonsense.

What actions are you ACTUALLY taking?
I am not corrupt.

What I am doing about it involves educating deepsight, you, bayelsaowei, budaatum, etc.

Help people with self awareness.

That's just a few.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:33pm On May 19
bayelsaowei:
So what nonsense have you done..?

You as a person, mention your nonsense and tell us exactly how you’ve recognized it.. and what you have done about it.

😃😃

Just they open mouth Dey talk nonsense....
Guilty by association 😂
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:18pm On May 19
cococandy:
As an African, how are you personally being accountable?
By recognizing our nonsense instead of blaming the white man and climate change
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:14pm On May 19
LordReed:
Bro do you you have any or you just gonna meme to cover your lack.
No be my time you go waste
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:11pm On May 19
LordReed:
Bro, I am not talking about Minnesota. Name someone that was indicated because of the DOGE cuts.
Wow

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:29pm On May 19
LordReed:
Name one now.
Them plenty

Early Intensive Developmental and Behavioral Intervention (EIDBI/autism services) — ~$20M+ in recent charges.
Housing Stabilization Services (HSS) — ~$5.65M+ in recent charges.
Home health, peer recovery, and other high-risk services.

Recent examples (Dec 2025+ charges):
Abdinajib Hassan Yussuf (autism/EIDBI wire fraud).
Defendants in HSS scheme (billing for undelivered housing support/consulting).
Asha Farhan Hassan (pled guilty to $14M autism fraud; also linked to Feeding Our Future).


Don't be lazy
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:26pm On May 19
bayelsaowei:
Many high-profile corruption investigations and public accusations have disproportionately targeted democratic politicians, states institutions and even Republican representatives who defy Trump.

If you haven’t noticed this pattern then you’re either politically blind or deaf. If you can’t see parallels between Buhari’s corruption campaign in Nigeria and Trump’s execution plan then you’re a Learner. I’m curious to see how many fraud cases Trump successfully executes by the end of his second term.

Trump claims to fight waste and fraud yet pardons some of the most fraudulent armed robbers in the US. This same grifter openly breaches ethical procedures and removes safeguards meant to maintain government integrity.

As you agreed, Trump’s administration can conduct investigations and audits without halting/pausing a critical initiative for the public. This approach is inefficient and inhumane for such investigations.
Oga is still talking in broad slogan.

Give us the specific investigation, the specific politician, the specific program, and the evidence that the fraud claim is false. Saying Trump is wayo is not proof.

If Trump is using fraud investigations selectively against Democrats or Republicans who oppose him, then bring the examples for us to see and we can discuss them.

But you cannot just say every fraud investigation is political because you dislike Trump.
Also, I already said useful programs should not be blindly destroyed. But that does not mean fraud should be ignored while the program is live. If money meant for poor children is being stolen, the victims are still poor children.

Also stop pretending concern about fraud means support for cutting off the poor. That is dishonest.

The real question is simple
What exact children’s feeding program was halted or gutted?

How much money was cut?
Who lost benefits?
What evidence shows the fraud accusation was false?

Answer these questions first.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:01pm On May 19
LordReed:
Bro name 1 person that has been indicted for fraud in any of these funds, just 1.
Them plenty. Use Google
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:01pm On May 19
bayelsaowei:
This is the same strategy Buhari deployed only to throw Nigeria into more poverty and corruption.. Buhari screamed that Jonathan had stolen all the money in Nigeria and so embarked on a showbiz corruption war (many of us knew it was all for show)..

I see the same MO playing in the US. And knowing how wayo-ish Trump is and also a fraud himself the outcome won’t be different.

Who says one can’t clean up a system while a program or initiative is live? Especially when that program benefits a lot of citizens.

I am highly disappointed with Nigerians who have experienced most likely the worst form of leadership/government, but cannot perceive the similarities in the Trump administration.

Ona Dey fall for my hand. Ona be Pikin?
Another one of your false comparison.

Buhari’s failure does not mean every attempt to audit or reform a wasteful program is automatically bad.

Buhari failed because his anti-corruption war was selective, political, incompetent, and did not produce better governance.

E no mean say the solution is to keep broken systems running forever without audit.

Yes I agree, you can clean up some programs while they are live. I agree with that. But that depends on the level of fraud, the structure of the program, and whether money is still reaching the right people.

In some cases you audit while running. In some cases you pause parts of it, remove the rot, then continue. The goal should be accountability, not blind cutting.

You should focus more on the people stealing the money
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:54pm On May 19
LordReed:
Where are the people indicted for the so-called fraud?
What do you do with your internet? If you can't find that yourself it's your problem.

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