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ijebosb:
My neighbor to the right of me is white and in his late 60's. The neighbor in front of me is also white and in his late 60's. I'm the young guy on the street. Both grew up in racist Boston. We go to dinner as a group from time to time. Planning a dinner now for one of their retirements. I'm sure both were racist at some point in their lives and have pretty much acknowledged that during conversations. But even though at times I can hear the twinkle of racial bias in how they talk about things, they have acknowledged they are trying to do better. And I gave them grace try to judge people on who they are now, not who they were, despite the mistakes they might have made.

I use that same rationale with Biden. His life has spanned generations. He has made mistakes, but the man he is today is a different man who is trying to right those mistakes. Compare who he is now and what he does now, with Trump and the Republican party.

You mean the First Step Act Trump regrets signing because he didn't get the Felon vote he thought he'd get for passing it?


Martin Luther King said, "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice". Ask yourself if that can be said about Trump and the Republican Party.

And this post is par for the course with you. Some cheap deflection of barely passable talking points that anyone in the know would know is Bullshit. You are clearly used to talking to yourself in the mirror or people not familiar with US politics.

I answered your deflection. Now answer my original question. Or are you too scared to?

aren't you a racists? if racists like your white nebos can get along with a black racist like you... then there is progress. enjoy your racists party and stop playing victim upandan

ijebosb:
Your post is no different than most of the posts people have written with your ideology. Read and seen it already. Faulty premises, data that hasn't been fully thought through (like this argument about single black woman).etc. etc. There's even someone in this thread whose children have a single unwed mom, who tried to make the same argument that single mom's are the reason why Black children are in crisis. Nuts.

I am not diminishing your views or your past, I'm just saying it sounds like you don't have a diverse group of people around you.
I didn't grow up in the US wealthy either. My dad was doing his PHD in another state so he had 2 households to support while he was studying. My best friend when I was 13 was shot not far from where we lived. The first house my dad bought, when they found out he was black, they cancelled the agreement, made up a lie and tried to keep his deposit. I've been pulled over multiple times with guns drawn, once in front of my privileged high school. I've seen the racism personally. Now I'm somewhat older, I see it less. Not that it's not there, just that my money serves as privilege which insulates me some. And so with my friends. From being able to send their kids to private school, to having enough power now to check a racist cracker. You have it backwards, wealth insulates you some from racism. And if a wealthy or middle class person is yelling racism, it's because it exists and should worry you. Look it, a friend was telling me someone we both know, probably one of the wealthiest black people in my state, maybe even in the US, their kid got into an Ivy league, but they decided to go to HBCU. Why? Because of the racism this wealthy black man knew and had experienced and wanted his child to not experience in college. I was shocked. Again, you have it backwards, your perspective doesn't seem to be broad enough.

But this thread is on the US Politics. If you want to align your argument to the election, cool, if not you should start a new thread.

IbeOkehie Just know this guy has experience for every situation.
talk about the moon, he will tell you his dad was beating his mom in the dark side of the moon.

LordAdam16:
You do not use a bulldozer to swat a fly.

The Houthi and Hezbollah response has helped calmed the Muslim Ummah.
If Israel wasn't feeling the heat in any way, there would have already been an Arab Spring 2.0.
The coalition strikes, however ineffective they appear, exacts a threshold on the nature and degree of these responses.

There is a reason why this is Israel's first attack on the Houthis.
And why Israel will not respond directly to the Houthis should they continue to sink Israeli ships, even after today.

There is a red line between Israel being able to massacre civilians in Gaza and an International coalition massacring civilians all around the Middle East at Israel's behest. The latter will make the current Palestine protests in the West seem like a Xinjiang wedding.

Here's the deal, the royal families in the likes of Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait are sitting on trillions of dollars.
If a miscalculation kicks off a snowball that threatens their rule, Israel will empty out.
This is not 1966.

A very delicate balancing act is being executed right now.
The goal is a ceasefire. Everything besides that must be managed pedantically to avoid a spiral.
If that means more dead civvies in the region, well, so be it.

-Lord

Israel is responding because the Houthis killed one and injured several in Tel Aviv.
Israel has been bombing Syria and Iran, they can bomb the Houthis if they want and they did when the Houthis killed an Israeli and this is in the same response they have been doing for a while before Oct 7. Hamas shoots rockets, and Israel responds by leveling a building. the same is true for Lebanon so this is nothing new and if the Houthis continue, you will see a more severe response from Israel.

the bold is just wrong. Saudi Arabia is at war with Yemen, and Iran wants to liberate the Saudis as well. why do you think they want to join a coalition with Israel to counter the Iranian threat?

ijebosb:
Sharrup. You're a self hating black man who spends his life trying to be seen in the "American Politics Thread".
You're a broken person. Who the gives a fux what you think.
Let me know if you want me to start a "How to sneak into Canada and apply for asylum" thread.

so you could not refute what I said? you are only angry I don't play the "white man bad and look I am a victim" game.

ijebosb:
This post is full of faux intellectualism and mostly uninformed.
You seem to know little about racism in the US.
And seem to know little about why more middle class black people access "benefits meant for the descendants of those they sold into slavery" than more disadvantaged black people. It's more complex than what you think.

I've read another one of your posts in another thread, which employed some of the same erroneous "logic". Logic like "1+3=22"
I'm not sure where you live but if it is the US, it's clear you don't have access to other Black people of differing socioeconomic backgrounds to bounce these "thoughts" of yours off of. You should. Those discussion may elucidate this concept of racism for you.

Anyhow, everyone may have some implicit biases they may not even be aware of. The goal in life should be to be find them and root them out to make sure they are not impacting others. You seem comfortable in people just having them and hurting others because of them.

I'm not sure what happened to you or happens to certain black people, a lot in this thread, that they choose to become racism defenders. It's peculiar and very sad.

your problem is your racism.
Blacks captured blacks and sold them to white men for bottles and umbrellas. 40 human beings were sold for 1 umbrella. the slaves that made it to the United States were the lucky slaves.

today, the weak victims who have nothing to do with what happened in the past are asking for reparation as if it was the white man who enslaved their ancestors. why don't they ask the Nigerian government for reparation? they should go to badagry LAGOS and ask for reparation.

have you guys ever discussed the battle to free slaves and end the slave trade that some people lost their lives for?
slavery was the norm and everyone was doing it, you people should move on.

LordAdam16:
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And what happens if in response to such strikes the Houthis blow up the oil infrastructure of US allies in the region where US bases and assets are located?
They successfully hit Saudi Arabia oil facilities during their war.

Is Biden ready for $5 gasoline 4 months out from an election?
That'll simultaneously be a windfall for Russia.

As I said, Israel does not care about repercussions. AIPAC has the US and the rest of the West in a vice grip.
The US, UK, and the International coalition cannot be similarly reckless.
The plan is to contain the conflict until the ceasefire is brokered.

-Lord

You don't let someone attack you and you don't respond because you are afraid they will blow up infrastructures. Any country they attack will not sit by and allow it. even if it means turning that part of Yemen into a desert so be it. but these terrorists are only doing this because they are not seeing serious responses. what they are doing is already an act of war.

that's how Iranian proxies have been doing and the US did not respond till they killed 3 servicemen. After a strong response from the US, their attack stopped, right?

and I am also saying they should not bother bombing if they know the bombing is meaningless or will have no effect. they should just not bomb at all because at the end of the day it will still be news that the US is bombing Yemen even if the Bomb has not effect.

LordAdam16:
The international coalition have been targeting munition stores and sites where the Houthis launched attacks from.
Israel attacked port infrastructure and an oil depot.

If the US wanted, they could have wiped off the entire port.

Israel does not care about blowback because it has the entire West running defense for them
The international coalition must exercise more care and restraint because they have lots of assets and allies in the region that are not as well defended.

-Lord

let's say they launch one or two drones from a site, The US will go and bomb the site. what is the point? the launch sites are not used for storage. so they are bombing camels—a waste of resources. We know if the US wants to bomb Yemen, they will do it... so if they don't want to, why waste rockets?

what is the care? the Huthis have been killing sailors in the sea, Saudis, Egypt, etc will all back a serious blow to the Huthis. no one is talking about wiping them out but do enough to deter them. all this weakness is the reason the Middle East is on fire.

we know there will be a huge fire if the US targets their munition storage. we see it in Russia.

this attack by Israel only shows how the US has been wasting tax payers money shooting rockets at camels. for 8months they have been bombing Yemi and nothing to show for it. Israel just bombs once and we can see the difference.

bemeruca:
this is Yemen celebrating the of an Israeli from a drone attack

Rakyat Yaman merayakan keberhasilan serangan pesawat tak berawak (drone) ke Tel Aviv.
Mereka meneriakkan “Pemimpin yang terkasih, serang, serang Tel Aviv, kami siap, kami memberi Anda wewenang! Palestina tidak sendirian.” pic.twitter.com/QCp02Asv7x

— Dina Sulaeman (@dina_sulaeman) July 20, 2024

if Israel retaliates you will hear civilians are being killed

Yemen port in flames after their attack on Israel

this is Yemen celebrating the of an Israeli from a drone attack

Rakyat Yaman merayakan keberhasilan serangan pesawat tak berawak (drone) ke Tel Aviv.
Mereka meneriakkan “Pemimpin yang terkasih, serang, serang Tel Aviv, kami siap, kami memberi Anda wewenang! Palestina tidak sendirian.” pic.twitter.com/QCp02Asv7x

— Dina Sulaeman (@dina_sulaeman) July 20, 2024

if Israel retaliates you will hear civilians are being killed

budaatum:
You smirk, but it does make for a better society than one where police bully people with guns and army and teargas.

Though it must be noted our rioters and burners don't have guns neither, and our fire brigade is top notch and even rioters and burners make way for them especially when told people might be burning.

And we do educate better, I daresay.

police don't use guns or live bullets in riots. that has been the case for ages. there is a reason they made teargas so there will be no need to use more force. Water Canon is a good tool as well.

it is just funny how you expect them to let the riot go on till the rioters are satisfied with looting and burning down the city before you start to use software to unmask their mask

fire brigades don't go to put out fires deliberately started by rioters except there is order and security

Ijebosb, see a brother being sincere. be like him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPf7Kq8uFoE

budaatum:
We have technology that unmasks faces, and we may collect finger prints and dna as evidence.

Besides, it is British and many humans wherever their from's values and culture for mothers to report their rioting and burning sons to the cops. Or wouldn't you report your kids if they were stupid enough to go riot and burn?

🤣🤣

budaatum:
When the rioters are tired and are caught and are charged and are sentenced and have to serve at his majesty's pleasure for what they burned down, many others will be seeing the British values and the British culture and they will learn from what they see and decide for themselves if they too want to go and riot and burn things down in UK and serve at her majesty's pleasure or be assimilated in to our values and culture of a society of law and order.

Some will break the law, but the law will catch enough of them to deter others.

😂😂😂😂😂

When they cover their faces who will the police arrest after they allow them to riot till they are satisfied 😷😷😷😷

budaatum:
It is superior to see the wisdom of police withdrawing instead of wadding in with force.

Below is the culture and values of the British Police. Note 4 in particular but read all 9.

https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/peel-policing-principles/

When police continue to withdraw you get more of this.

It's the same thing with shop lifting in the US.
Remember how this riot started.

Your logic is for police to withdraw, let the place burn down then come back the next day with rioters are tired 😂

budaatum:
See what TechBaron sees with better eyes and superior brain and mind.

With the superior brain this is orderly riot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkkbQ7yVdA

With superior brain this is hamas getting more powerful.

Also, riot and order don't go together

budaatum:
You also "saw" a book and claimed "maths is racist", so you might see how your misunderstanding is not what happened despite what you claim you saw.

Its after all not as if you went to Leeds to look with your own eyes and 'saw' now, is it?

You can lie and deflect all you want. I saw the police run away like little girls and did not return for a day.

Cultural enrichment is good as it brings more problems

budaatum:
That's not only your point, its your understanding of the situation which is incorrect.

The police would have been there recording evidence that would be used in court to prosecute the offenders. Or do you think they fled back to the safety of their police station?


Water canon and teargas, but that is clearly not British culture now is it.

Protesters and property damagers are free to "roam the streets" as much as they want. We have cameras everywhere recording their roaming and whatever damage they may do to property, which will be used against them in court. They can decide for themselves how free they are to roam the streets unchallenged and damage property when they are incarcerated at his majesty's pleasure.

I saw police go to a place to enforce the law and they ran away not returning for a day. What's wrong in that understanding? Is it that not what happened?

budaatum:
Well, I'm very certain even you have a brain in your head and can use it sometimes to know most humans will prioritise life over property, but you are very welcome to apply to the British Police to prioritise property over your own life.

Yes, there is always a priority but that does not mean when the option is not there properties should not be protected.

My point is, the police were chased out and they did not return for a day. It shows they are powerless.

In some countries around Europe, they bring in water canon and make sure these guys don't roam the streets unchallenged

budaatum:
Protection of life, first. They would not protect property before protecting life, and they definitely will not stupidly protect property with their life.

It says life and property not life first. But yes, there should be priorities. That said, this is what you said

budaatum:
No bem, it is not the UK police duty to protect properties that can very easily be replaced. They are not security guards.

Their duty is to protect irreplaceable lives including the bus drivers and their own, which they smartly rightly did by removing themselves from harm.

budaatum:
No bem, it is not the UK police duty to protect properties that can very easily be replaced. They are not security guards.

Their duty is to protect irreplaceable lives including the bus drivers and their own, which they smartly rightly did by removing themselves from harm.

Hmmm.

budaatum:
It is not anyone's culture to burn buses in rome or anywhere, so your point is rather pointless.

Its like saying when Nigerians come to live in UK they should not bring their yahoo culture, as if you've preached "when in rome" when they bought their ticket and they accepted your preaching.

If true though, you should come live here so you can act like we Romans who don't object to multiculturalism instead of trying to impose your bigoted culture on us.

Oh, it is not... I never said bus burning was a culture.
The pointless here is the strawman you brought to this discussion.

How am I imposing culture on anyone by saying live and follow the culture of the land? Have you heard me speak against Saudi culture and they should change it or people should move there and change it? Anyone who moves to that country should not drink alcohol or walk in bikinis. I will not support you because the culture of the land does not support that.

budaatum:
They smartly and intelligently moved themselves to safety instead of trying to protect a patrol car.

If they hadn't they might have been hurt, but they are rather more wise than to let that happen to them since they have lots of patrol cars to replace the destroyed ones.

budaatum:
The police do not flee. Its after all not their job to protect a bus.

The police stand back and record evidence of you committing your crime and will come arrest your ass afterwards.

So they flee and they left their equipments as well?

It is their duty to protect properties. The driver of the bus flee. It is the iconic double decker bus.

They should continue to remove themselves.
They tried to enforce the law and they couldn't, this event was planned

budaatum:
The police do not flee. Its after all not their job to protect a bus.

The police stand back and record evidence of you committing your crime and will come arrest your ass afterwards.

They left their patrol car and flee on foot. The car was destroyed. It takes time to set a bus on fire, if they did not flee, that would t have happened

budaatum:
I so love the way you refuse to leave your village to go and be multicultural in a city.

It is in fact commendable of you not leaving your country to go and be multicultural in a country that isn't your culture.

There should be more like you who remain in their own village so they don't go and downfall other nations. Fortunately, not everyone is stupid and ignorant to think their migration ruins where they migrate to.

We are seeing the results. When you are in rome, act like the Romans. I live according to the culture here. If I love my culture so much I will leave n go back home.

ijebosb:
Hey self hating racist, you should probably go and google what racism means.

One of those clips is racist, the other one isn't.

Racism means anyone you don't like that supports the Republican party.

To you George Floyd a career criminal = good
Ben Carson an iconic professional = bad

budaatum:
More like I don't let you set the agenda of my thought or interests.

You lack the powers, you see.

The power set a bus on fire, the police flee, there were thousands of people who rioted and the police and Co are trying to downplay the incident. Just imagine if these were done by whites protesting.

Like I said, multiculturalism is the downfall of a nation. There will be a clash soon. When I enter the UK, it's difficult to no eat hallal meat. They forced people's religious ritual on many people now without them knowing.
This is a snippet.

ijebosb:
Unfortunately, not every sports legend is a good person.
I can't rock with racists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb_7ZCbuBbc

You continue to forget this.
If he endorses Biden you wouldn't care.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcgmwj3NAc&pp=ygUYeW91IGFpbnQgYmxhY2sgam9lIGJpZGVu

budaatum:
Jan6 perps also thought they got away with their crimes until police arrested them afterwards and now they are in jail.

By the way, why are you not commenting about everything else happening in the world?

You like to deflect

Kill your culture by mass migration. BBC will not report this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG1K7GOieqI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVdexvvzang

Budaatum is quiet as Leeds burns. That's a snippet of what's to come when police start to run away you know the country is in trouble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8E4VZMiLwM

Hulkamania

I’ve seen it all now 😂@HulkHogan pic.twitter.com/vy6ei4tAMO

— Russell Brand (@rustyrockets) July 19, 2024

IjeBos, see this racist? He is a legend 😂