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LordReed:
YES they are obligated. But we know you lack the capacity to properly reason so that simple fact evades you.

Where is the binding agreement that says they are obligated to defend Ukraine 😀

Let's see how you will go about this.

LordReed:
Donate your unused B R A i N to the nearest donor facility.

You are the one clueless. You don't know the meaning of what you are posting. You think the US is obligated to defend or come to the aid of Ukraine. Go rest. Exposing yourself for matter you no get clue of

DeepSight:
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I asked you to give me instances yes. I didn't say there weren't any. I cited one myself. Alas the instance you gave was absurd because they were the ones fraudulently attacking another country. Aside from that, i still haven't confirmed your claim. Not that it matters because regardless, they were the ones fraudulently attacking another country. Where they killed millions.

Okay, so why is your question now why the US was in Iraq? What does that have to do with Iran killing US servicemen?

DeepSight:
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No, I dont count what you cited as anything. I havent even double checked your claim because for me its irrelevant. You made it sound like the Americans and NATO members were minding their business innocently and Iran was just killing them over decades. This is false and a fraudulent depiction. They went into Iraq on fraudulent claims which they have admitted and killed millions. If they lost 600 to counter attacks from neighbors that is nothing.

I am talking about what you referenced. You said
this

DeepSight:
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Other than the embassy hostage situation.
Can you give us instances.

The bold is your reference

US is at war with Iraq and Iran is killing them. So why you dey cry as them they face the music?

DeepSight:
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And what was the US doing in Iraq?
I trust you know even they admitted the WMD thing was a hoax/ false.

You see how yeye you are 😂 now that you know Iran has been killing the Americans outside the one you cited, see the nonsense question you dey ask me.

DeepSight:
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You are the one who brought up Iraq. You said Iran was placing IEDs in Iraq.

Yes, Iran killed at least 600 us soldiers.

So they have been attacking the US for decades

DeepSight:
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How many Iraqi casualties?

What does Iraq has to do with Iran targeting and killing American servicemen?

Budaatum he is telling you guys what you don't like to hear.

Victor Glover absolutely SCHOOLS a woke reporter trying to get a DEI answer out of him..

“I hope one day we can look at this as ‘human history’ — not black history or women’s history..” 👏👏 pic.twitter.com/nArQyk2Q0z

— American AF 🇺🇸 (@iAnonPatriot) April 2, 2026

basilico:
I've been saying for months that Trump sees China as a bigger threat than Russia. He is willing to work with Russia to move it away from Chinese influence.
China friendly regimes , Venezuela and Iran are his current focus. Cuba is on the pipeline .
Finally I'll think he'll throw Zelensky under the bus and cozy upto Putin to completely isolate China.

Putin cannot be trusted

DeepSight:
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Lol. Weak.

Facts and you are like water and oil
They don't mix

Thousand of US casualties

DeepSight:
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Other than the embassy hostage situation.
Can you give us instances.

IEDs in Iraq were all Iran's doing. Many more in Lebanon etc.

IMAliyu2:
Damn, for all the gymnastics she was running for Trump, this is her reward.

Lmao

Fire her, she bad, bla bla bla and Trump fires her then they start saying he is bad 😂

Cry cry. He waited to long to do this.

Bye bye Pam Bondi.
You are fired. Bayelsaowei will love you now

LordReed:
D U L L A R D! Who are the permanent members of the Security Council?

Russia is also a permanent member. Use a brain dot com is a good website you should spend your time on.

UN don't work that way. Educate yourself.

budaatum:
Don't you worry. After dump pulls out of Iran without making any significant change in the Iranian regime, we'd be here talking about how NATO is refusing to join him in bombing N. Korea.

You just be patient and watch and learn.

No one will be talking that because it won't happen. EU will get more issues with the US pulls out. France and Sweden are the only Serious players

bayelsaowei:
And the US has turned to an aggressor.

Goalposts switched.

They did the same with N. Korea, talk and negotiate and gbam, N. K is testing nukes.

budaatum:
I am not you, ben. I do not watch Tucker.

Well you are beginning to sound like them.

budaatum:
Ben, let me be honest with you. I am not arguing with you, I am actually educating you even though I know you will continue to refuse to learn.

Biden was president when Russia invaded Ukraine, and Biden definitely saw Russia as a threat then.

Dump, on the other hand. Well....

Educate yourself first. A blind person cannot direct another person in a city.

Work on your Education first then come back

budaatum:
Sounds like those other presidents were America First, while dump is now stuck in Iran yelling Israel First.

I hope he's enjoying it.

What does this even mean?
Stop watching Tucker Carlson.

bayelsaowei:
Have you also forgotten how the EU bled and lost lives in the coalition war they fought alongside the US against Afghanistan and other intervention.

You talk like the EU has been a docile ally to the US.

Of course they did, that alliance should continue. The UK and most EU nations started stalling after Tony Blair. They are woke today. They only know how to talk problems away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ahr7T0B9Iw

GracieX3:
Trump is the rat that other rats push to bell the cat.

How did black people and immigrants build the US. Americans built the US. That is my position.

budaatum:
You seem to be ignoring the fact that Europe does not agree that Iran is a threat to them.


You will need to provide evidence for "Iran is a threat to the US, NATO", please ben, because NATO, at least, do not agree with you that Iran has attacked them.



It's likely impossible for you to understand that Ukraine is in Europe's backyard, and a threat to Ukraine is a threat to Europe, and that's why Europe assist Ukraine but still refuse to go to war against Russia. If Ukraine were a NATO member, that assistance would be war against Russia, and USA can refuse to assist if they want, but there will be consequences.

NATO, or rather, European countries, since NATO does not apply here, on the other hand, were not consulted nor informed before dump went and attacked Iran, and NATO and Europe see dump's as the aggressor attacking Iran. Like US went looking for a fight, and is now calling on NATO to help. NATO was not created to go and seek enemies. It's purpose is defence against those who attack its members, so why would Europe get involved now and just because dump has put himself in a quagmire in Iran?

Did Europe that he did not consult send him?

The same way the US does not see Ukraine war with Russia as a threat but they still took part in it.

I don't understand why you are arguing.

The EU brands the IRGC as a terrorists group.
Educate yourself and stop spreading lies and disinformation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ahr7T0B9Iw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xSeWrml4PM

To add, previous presidents all said they are going to recognize as Jerusalem the capital of Isreal, it is in their playbook that's why they all talked about it. Trump came, looked at the playbook and said I have the balls to do this. And he did it.

bayelsaowei:
It was a doable option to acquire Greenland by using military force.

Trump is never going to do that. The attack of Iran is not a playbook of his own. It is possible that kamala would have done the same thing.

It is why she was saying she will go after Iran when she was the vice.

bayelsaowei:
And to add.

The same man has told the EU that he doesn’t need their help. That the US is all powerful.

So why the rant? He said he doesn’t need their air space… so why the complaints..

Yes, he does not. The conflict is biting now they are talking about doing something. Let's see how they go about it. They handicapped themselves in the energy sector, any small disruption, they feel the brunt.

Did they thank the US when the Houthis blocked the sea and the US opened it? How did they contribute in opening it? Free ride is all they know.

bayelsaowei:
you can call them mumu as you like.

Na you sabi. Go and force them to open their air space.

We are talking about the same maniac who wanted to attack Greenland…

He never wanted to attack Greenland. Even Zelensky told them they can't defend Greenland without the US. Zelensky thinks NATO is a joke, over-reliant. So let them break apart, that way they will do the needful, and when conflicts start to casala, we shall know who has whose back

bayelsaowei:
No wahala. But note. Once Trump and his rotten admin is gone, saner presidents would restore the warm and wholesome relationship they once had with the EU.

Not saner, mumuo president will come and play Mr nice guy while the EU do fake eye service for him or her as long as they pay the bills.

budaatum:
The reason is because an attack on Ukraine is a threat to Europe, and the idea of NATO is that a threat to one is a threat to all.

Iran was however not a threat, as in, they haven't attacked any member of NATO yet, and NATO policy is not "USA attacks, so NATO must attack too", as dump thinks it must be and is being told it isn't.

Do note that no NATO member has attacked Russia in response to Russia's attack on Ukraine. That's because Ukraine is not a NATO member. If Russia attack a NATO member, all other NATO members are obliged to go to war against Russia.

But of course, you ben, will now spend the rest of the day arguing against this very well known fact. You'll forgive me if I limit my response to the minimum.

A nuclear Iran is a threat to the US, NATO and Israel. If its a threat to EU why is it americas problem? Yet they want america to do the heavy lifting while they can't do the minimum against Iran.

Iran has been attacking the US and and NATO for decades. Russia did not attack NATO either. They are helping Ukraine, they cannot attack Russia, they don't have to attack Iran too, which is why I am asking why are they denying the US their airspace then? They all agree Iran must not have nukes.

bayelsaowei:
Let the US pull out..

The relaxing truth is that Trump isn’t the owner of the US. When he is gone with his stinking cabinet, subsequent presidents would restore and improve allyship with NATO.


He should getat..

Naa they improved the free ride of NATO, they improved the reliance of NATO which is why the UK does not have a functioning navy.

They should restore it by allowing European countries who destroy their own ability to do anything so they can rely on the US use them, trump is not allowing it.

Even Israel is moving away from the US because of the growing antisemitism in today's world. Israel knows how the world is and they want to adapt, both the US and Israel benefit from their alliance more. Tech and intelligence. The EU does not win in anything.

basilico:
He actually thought Ukraine would be easy .
He still dreams of the USSR .
Putin also blows hot and cold.
He tried to join NATO, he was rebuffed. Had they worked out a framework or cooperation I doubt he would have resorted to territorial expansion.
But do not forget NATO and EU went on a spree , enticing neighbouring countries to join them. 14 countries formerly under Russia control joined NATO, 11 of them joined EU.
Effectively forming a defensive western flank . Ukraine topography and proximity to Moscow 400 km would be crucial if NATO was to invade Russia.

This war is not just addressing Iran, it is addressing China as well.

LordReed:
You are the person with the problem.

The UN is not the US.

Security Council is the UN. This is why I said you don't understand anything. You should be sleeping.

basilico:
The EU is laughable. They severely limited fossil fuel exploitation, shut down nuclear and coal plants all in the name of saving mother earth. Then the precipitated the Ukraine war by enticing Zelensky to join NATO and the EU.
The blocked purchase of Russian energy to weaken Putin. They still buy some oil from Russia shipped to Chinese and indian importers at a discount. More expensively.

With the Iranian blocking the straits they have no reliable source .
I believe the EU liberals support the spirit of the War in Iran ,but they have a sizeable Muslim voting block they imported whom they fear to lose.

Trump has told them , we'll smash up Iran ,we don't need the oil ,it will be upto EU to protect the strait which will be their main energy source.
Don't forget America controls Venezuela oil , he can chose whom to sell to.

NATO chief is headed to the WH this week as a matter of urgency

Joining NATO or the EU is not the sole reason Putin is invading Ukraine. I used to think that was the case till I watched Putin give his reasons. He wants to errect the soviet union.

He was thinking Ukraine would be easy, and after Ukraine, he would have gone to another country.