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IjeBos:
You can miss me with this. You're very good at false equivalizing and both siding. A kitten and a Crocodile can both bite you. Should we treat both equally?

This is one of the most consequential periods in US Democracy and the distinction between two parties are clear. KKK members are literally marching in the streets unhooded. If you can't see the difference you are unwilling to and/or incapable of.

A good article:
Fact-Checking In The Age Of Trump: Why False Equivalence Is Harming Democracy
https://www.wgbh.org/news/commentary/2019/09/18/fact-checking-in-the-age-of-trump-why-false-equivalence-is-harming-democracy

And I'm a US Citizen and so are all my siblings, their kids and a lot of my friends. And because I have as much right to the fruits of this country as any white person. And being the person I am, I believe this country belongs to me. So, no, not fighting for any white person, I'm fighting for myself.

Lastly, fence straddlers are as equally as bad as the likes of benalvino3 and basilico. If you can't cleary call out the Racism and destructive blatant lies you see here, you're equally culpable. Striving for peace for peace sakes while people are trying to strip Black people of their basic rights TO BE is bullshit.

From John Lewis:
"...Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble, necessary trouble."

BraniacX:
Sounds like it is benalvino3🙂 you do catch on fast ije

budaatum:
Not all are fighting for whites or even fighting at all.

Apart from the huge impact American politics has on the entire world, I am here to learn and discuss with other Nigerians how America runs it's democracy and how it does its politics and runs its economy because Nigeria has adopted the same ideology and systems and would someday also suffer from the same vagaries of American capito-democracy.

Unfortunately, we are there already as can be seen,
by our shoot before comprehension mentality in this thread. Good thing about it though, is smarter people would come along and see how far we got and know what to do and what not to do and how to evolve us further.

IjeBos:
Good example for another Vocab lesson on envy.

You have mentioned where I went to school more than I. Probably at a 10:1 ratio. Sounds like you are envious of me.

IjeBos:
I'm allergic to dumb people. More allergic to dumb, lazy people. And even moreso to dumb, lazy self hating black people. You are dumb, lazy and self-hating. So, I'm not having a convo with you about this.
You have spent days and days on this thread talking about this topic, yet haven't spent the time it takes to read the book or even understand the topic. I'm not even sure why anyone is engaging you on this topic, besides calling you out on it.

IjeBos:
I excelled because I was considered "Academically Gifted". Everything came easy and I picked up concepts easily.
Did some of the staff in my school make it harder, yes? On the non objective stuff or when they could fux with me they did.

One experience: I got an A in a Science project that was graded blindly. When the teacher found out it was Me, my grade dropped to a C-. Why? He heard me telling someone I did part of the project in Study Period (time allocated so we can do school work) and not at home. He said it was supposed to be home work. He was white. Could I prove it was Racism? No. But every black kid knew he was racist. That C- dropped that class grade that term from an A(4.0) to a B+(3.3). Which affected my class Rank and GPA. Both which were necessary to apply to College.

I tell the story not because I give a fux about your racist self hating self. But, so anyone reading your nonsense can get a better perspective.

budaatum:
Start by helping yourself. Why you support schools teaching kids to suck a dee and vir-g.

IjeBos:
Just wear a fk'ing white hood already so 1.) you'll fit in and 2.) at least the other racists don't think you're black.

I live un the US, grew up in the US, went to predominately white schools in the US. A self hating idiot who lives in Nigeria, where he is in the majority, is not going to tell me about my experiences here.

I excelled, despite the Racism I experienced. As did my friends. As did any successful black person in the US. You should talk to successful black people and get their experiences so you'll stop sounding so ignorant.

Wow

budaatum:
bemeruca, buda is not your master or your god that you should concern yourself with what you think buda supports so much. But if buda is that important to you, I buda free you from all obligations so you can go and support whatever you want to support.

budaatum:
Why should I compete with anyone be they white or green when I have managed white and blacks already?


I wouldn't know "how does people of color required to raise their hands before they speak in class white supremacy", and I have never said "people of color required to raise their hands before they speak in class white supremacy" neither. And nor does it say so in the book because if it did, teachers, both black and white, would point out that would mean disorder in their class and no one regardless of colour would learn.

budaatum:
I wonder how many times I need to inform you that I do not see what you see? I mean, it's obviously not like we have the same abilities.


Go and learn to read so you can see for yourself, bemeruca. I don't allow my time to be wasted so.

budaatum:
There would even be white kids living in this same neighbourhood that might not have the same opportunity to learn don't you think, or do you believe sitting in the same class implies equal opportunity?

What if one kid comes from a home where father was alcoholic and was up last night beatinh mother, would that kid have the same opportunity as others because they are in the same class? And what if one kid walked miles with no breakfast while another had breakfast and was driven in a car, would they both have equal opportunity to learn?


You've managed to convince yourself of what you see and think is real and can't be bothered to open your eyes so you can see.

buda opposes the fact that some people, regardless of their race or gender or sex or whatnot, are victims of poverty and ignorance, and while I wish you would educate yourself, we must make allowances for your deficiencies and help you overcome them knowing it is you who must do the work to learn because no one owes you anything.

budaatum:
Read up on the straw man fallacy. It might inform what you did here.


Just look at how you conduct yourself and you might understand that some people who were taught in the same classes as you learnt something different to what you seem to have learnt.


So, the book is advocating that teachers give students work but the student does not need to do the work because they don't have to show it if they are black or latinx?


I suggest you repeat English reading class if you were discriminated against and never learnt to understand what you read because I did not say anyone asked me to be bus driver.

budaatum:
Did you go to any school? Is this how they taught you to engage with others? Do you not think that if this were the conduct you were taught to engage with others that your teacher might have not taught you well or you might just not have learnt well?

budaatum:
I was lost for words myself. A Nigerian saying black people have the same opportunities white people have anywhere especially in America.

He probably thinks Nigerians have the same opportunity as Americans too despite our poorly funded schools and poorly trained and compensated teachers and lack of electricity which disadvantage us, and if some rise up and demand equity on the business stage, which pretty is relatively there already, he'd likely say "buda supports white supremacy because maths is racist".

budaatum:
And you don't understand how white supremacy can show up in classrooms or why how one gets even to the wrong answer in maths matters as a learning tool but would rather believe that buda would rather the standard for maths be reduced because you are black?

bemeruca, please, if that is what you understand and choose to believe buda believes, then so be it. I myself know the book talks about a lot more than what you understand. We have had the same white supremacy issues where I live whereby black kids were encouraged to become bus drivers and secretarys and nurses while their white classmates were driven to be doctors and lawyers and accountants. Lowering standards for black kids, which is what you understand this book is about, is very different and the opposite of even your "equity in maths" you'd find it you thought about it. Equity means to equally teach the same things the same way to the same standards, while reducing standards for black is its opposite! Are you suggesting buda supports both or might there be something wrong with your understanding?



Let me add that I am honoured that what you think buda believes matters and is so important to you, but rather than you using your mind reading skills to read buda's mind I'd suggest you actually ask buda.

IjeBos:
This is probably the single most disgustingly ignorant statement you have made on this thread. You don't have to say whatever idiotic nonsense comes to your mind. Crack open a f'king US history book for once in your life if you feel the need to discuss US history.

budaatum:
That's what you see, and I don't see what you see.

No parent, black Latin or whatever, would claim asking their child to show their work is white supremacy or any sort of discrimination whatsoever. People just aren't as stupid and ignorant as you seem to think people are.

budaatum:
You understand it to mean that. And what you fail to consider is that these students will eventually sit for Sats where the proper answer is what would enable them to pass.

When all these blacks and latinx all fail, would there not be hell to pay and lots of reputations tarnished, or is it your opinion people don't care about their reputation in litigal America where you could likely sue teacher who teaches you 2+2=2⅔?


I'm not going to tell you which school anywhere, because that would be as absurd as asking you to show me a school where children are being taught the wrong answers to maths! You must have been to school yourself and noticed at least one kid who was discriminated against and therefore must know "How are kids in the same class learning from the same teacher at the same time getting different teaching" such that they don't get the same education everyone else got.

Equity does not only have to mean teacher teaching the same right answers in maths, but also the school providing an equal environment for every child to thrive and don't get black lives mattered or white supremed or anti gayed or anti womaned etc.


Sorry if this is what you understand, because nowhere did I say "require Black student and Latin Students to show their work or get the right answer" is "white supremacy", and you thinking I said so just indicates that you are getting the wrong understanding of what you read and are trying to insist that your understanding is what I wrote when it's glaringly obvious it isn't.

Reducing standards for blacks and latins, if done, is what idiots would do, and this book is not asking for a reduction of standards for anyone! Parents, black or Latin or poor, I don't think would send their children to substandard schools with substandard grading unless they are substandard themselves. State authorities that are responsible for standards in schools would object to such nonsense even if the school finds teachers stupid enough to condone it and I happen to know that a lot of black people are not substandard and want the best for their children, as do potential employers and even the government that collects tax, but despite all that, you want to believe that anyone is asking for lower standards for blacks and latins.

Sorry, but I really can not help you with your reason to think buda wants black and latins to be ignorant when my every day wish is that black Nigerians become more knowledgeable and smarter and wiser.

budaatum:
This is just dishonest! What you posted was preceeded by the following:

We see white supremacy culture show up in the mathematics classroom even as we carry out our professional responsibilities outlined in the California Standards for the Teaching Profession (CSTP). Using CSTP as a framework, we see white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up when:

But you refuse to note what that means and god I don't know why I am wasting my time to be honest.

budaatum:
Regarding your image, you left out superiority, whereby you pays your monies and get what you buy. After all, America is not a communist country that practices the equity or justice in the image you added.

Justice of removing barriers for all would be great but as ideal as a complete capitalist system would be, which is why those who require support in their education should get it, be it extra tutoring or reduced fees and be they black or white, and thankfully America seems enlightened enough to provide both along with healthcare for those who can't afford it.

Anyone, however, reducing the pass mark in maths or any other subject for blacks or any one else is trying to enslave those people into mediocrity. And this book is not asking for any such reduction in standards, but for a recognition of why the student got to the wrong answer, which any good teacher would do any way because knowing how and why a student arrived at their wrong answer helps you lead them better to get the right answer themselves.

• The focus is on getting the “right” answer.
• Independent practice is valued over teamwork or collaboration.
• Students are required to “show their work.”
• Grading practices are focused on lack of knowledge.
• “Real-world math” is valued over math in the real world.
• Students are tracked (into courses/pathways and within the classroom).
• Participation structures reinforce dominant ways of being.

budaatum:
And you don't understand how white supremacy can show up in classrooms or why how one gets even to the wrong answer in maths matters as a learning tool but would rather believe that buda would rather the standard for maths be reduced because you are black?

bemeruca, please, if that is what you understand and choose to believe buda believes, then so be it. I myself know the book talks about a lot more than what you understand. We have had the same white supremacy issues where I live whereby black kids were encouraged to become bus drivers and secretarys and nurses while their white classmates were driven to be doctors and lawyers and accountants. Lowering standards for black kids, which is what you understand this book is about, is very different and the opposite of even your "equity in maths" you'd find it you thought about it. Equity means to equally teach the same things the same way to the same standards, while reducing standards for black is its opposite! Are you suggesting buda supports both or might there be something wrong with your understanding?

Let me add that I am honoured that what you think buda believes matters and is so important to you, but rather than you using your mind reading skills to read buda's mind I'd suggest you actually ask buda.

budaatum:
No, it is not. So go inside the book and show me where it mentions anything that means this your, "equity in maths". I have posted a link to the book somewhere and if you've really been reading buda you'd find it and post it here showing where you get "equity in maths" from.

In fact, bemeruca, forgive me. This is the first I'm engaging with you, so, if you don't mind, can we perhaps start with what equity is?

Define equity, please.

White supremacy culture infiltrates math classrooms in everyday teacher actions. Coupled with the beliefs that underlie
these actions, they perpetuate educational harm on Black, Latinx, and multilingual students, denying them full access to
the world of mathematics.The table below identifies the ways in which white supremacy shows up in math classrooms.

• The focus is on getting the “right” answer.
• Independent practice is valued over teamwork or collaboration.
• Students are required to “show their work.”
• Grading practices are focused on lack of knowledge.
• “Real-world math” is valued over math in the real world.
• Students are tracked (into courses/pathways and within the classroom).
• Participation structures reinforce dominant ways of being.

budaatum:
The book does not push "equity in maths" as you seem to imagine. The book you got it from has the word "instruction" in its title, but I guess some don't even have equity in reading not to talk of the more superior ability to understand what they read. If you did, you'd easily understand that they mean equity in teaching, as in fund schools equally regardless of race, and treat students fairly regardless of their race.

budaatum:
I don't want equity in anything that you can go acquire for yourself. Blacks, or anyone who wants equity in maths should go pick up a maths book and study it. Though I must wonder why any one would want equity in anything, as in equal to others, when you can study harder and be superior in maths to others.

Most parents don't want equity for their child and that's why they don't send their children to free state.schools but pay school fees to buy superiority.

As for pronouns, I don't care what pronoun you want to be used to describe you. I can hold conversation with you without finding the need to pronounise you very easily and you can't force me to do otherwise.

budaatum:
I have far too many blind and ignorant people making unjustifiable claims they lack evidence for, especially those with new monikers who just believe the little over loud magas tell them, so kindly show where you got that buda supports what you claim please so we can see it in context ourselves.

basilico:
The lunacy of the left . Brazilian former President has been banned for running for at least 10 years after questioning Dominion vote counting machines.
Venezuela did one better. 15 years ban

Questioning electoral outcome is a crime.

Timesup2345:
Some people are saying that this twitter account is actually a parody account. It’s not a real person it’s a bot programmed to say the things liberals believe very bluntly to expose how stupid they sound. Do you believe so?

budaatum:
Problem is, it's America. A country with a history of service denial because of skin colour, and regardless of how it felt.

We'll see how this case is used as precedence in future.