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stansaintly:
Is it for Nigeria road?

I doubt cos no matter the speed, it won't record 120km per hour. Try to to ask either young-shall-grow or G.U.O

. Guy , u no get chill o...lollll

1 million Naira for the next five years for the best teacher... That's a good one from Maltina...that's an average of 6million naira over 5years if the initial 1 million is added... That's a good one. God bless NB plc

sbashir10:
@bencarson007 thank you sir, ameen sir and God bless you

. Blessings sbashir10

MiddleDimension:
i agree with you completely. and you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID EXCEPT FOR THE 'MAJORITY OF PEOPLE FROM SUCH A HOME...' PART. you have not taken a stat to know that, and it is of no use to judge based on stereotype.

and the part where you summerized the whole thing by saying if you can afford the emotinal and etc...is absolutely on point. but guess what? this doesnt apply to polygamy only but to all things including monogamy and celibacy. if you think you can handle it, then go on ahead! but the christian ummah do not see that way, instead they prefer a kind of crusade against polygamy like it is a thing condemned by their bible.

also, that i support polygamy does not in anyway mean that i encourage it for everyone. the same way i dont encourage even marriage at all to just about anyone. i also dont encourage celibacy for just anyone too even though i find nothing wrong with it.

the truth remains that just as there is mothing special about monogamy and celibacy, there is also nothing special about polygamy too.

Well said sir. I stand corrected on some of my asserions but like I said b4, it all boils down to capability of the said individual and as for the christian doctrine condemning polygamy, na strong topic be that o... So let's not bore the good people of NL by derailing the marriage thread of oga IBB daughter...let's do that at religious section... If you create such a thread on why christians condemn polygamy, invite me and let's hold intellectual discussion on such cos I see you are very sound in reasoning....
#RespectsBro

MiddleDimension:
while you condemn polygamy because of your one experience, know that the likes of me is from one where i have a beautiful experience.

i wonder why people condemn polygamy because of some of the bad examples we have seen, and not condemn monogamy because of the more bad ecamples of it we have seen.

@MiddleDimension,let's me explain to you what @sbashir10 meant... He just gave an opinion of his own... Experiences in life matter... While some muslims look at it as a do or die affair to get more than one wife, my brother @sbasir10 has his reservations and he is quite correct at it... The summary is if you can afford the emotional and physical costs of polygamy as well as any attendant extra drama, go ahead but if u can't, kindly stick to one wife and give ur family quality attention... Just a small take on this, majority of the women and children in polygamy suffer neglect and there is also the problem of jealousy,infighting and favouritism in such families which tend to last like forever...

sbashir10:
It's her life, and she decides what she wants.
so, you don't have to be subjected to abuse for not choosing to marry into a polygamous family, it's a thing of the choice,.
I'm a Muslim but i don't think i can cope with polygamy, as I'm speaking from experience, i know what my mum faced being the first out of the four wives of my dad.

@sbashir10, this is the second time I am reading ur comments on NL. Your parents ought to have named you as Maturity Bashir. Your head too correct. In as much as its allowed to have more than one wife in Islam, you are among the few that reasoned there may be some drama involved in doing so. You are a true follower of Islam...giving right interpretaions from insightful thinking on the teachings in Islam. May you always prosper and grow in wisdom...
Kindly help teach others the truth

#BlessedBe@sbashir10
May you never miss ur way

doskie:
maybe its the way i put it. many people dont get my point. im not bashing him for buying a plot of land. trust me. i facilitated the procedure for my junior colleagues to share lands in geneva estate near agbara in ogun state. it was 300k per plot at that time. i totally encourage it. what im against is rubbing it in. rubbing in your achievements in other peoples faces is totally not necessary. there are ways to ask questions and make enquiry without beating drums. this age of social media has really made people so external in their affairs. if a person goes to a hotel, everyone must know, if a person enters a plane, everyone must know, if a person secures a property, everyone must know. there are still people who never upload pictures depicting their landmarks and achievements. the need to be appreciated, and commended by the general public is gradually turning into a mental illness for some people. oh! i just bought a plot in epe, 1000likes, oh i just lost my dad, 2000likes, i mean common.... whats with all this publicity? i spoke to him the way i would to my brother or friend. maybe im wrong. its just my opinion and im sorry the way i put it. there are people who dont change dps , upload updates about their lives or boast about their achievements, yet one would marvel about their wealth and how much they keep their cool. i know a cotonou boy, 24 years old, he is a carpenter, he roofs houses. that little boy has a plot inside lekki sceme 1. i had known him for more than 3years before i knew that about him. he didnt go about beating drums under the pretext of making enquiry. im sure if it was this guy he will run to nairaland to say "please what is the correct measurement of a full plot because i just bought one in lekki" if i want to know the measurements of a plot, do i really need to tell you i just got one?? especially when you are a stranger? what do i benefit from the congratulations you will extend. thats my point. if i have a son, il teach him how to code himself.

... I understand ur point a bit but please let him be.. If he is showing of or not is his own business... #Respects bro

doskie:
hes not brainless. so you mean outside nairaland you have no other way to know what half plot of land can contain. stop showing yourself. nobody is interested in petty things like you buying your first plot or last plot. go and ask the agents that sold it to you. im sure they told you already, you just want to show yourself.

. Instead of being happy for a young man who just cut his teeth in properties,you are here joining a hater to castigate him... Is it wrong to seek opinion from a forum like this ? Please advise him or just let him be...take me for instance, there are many things I learnt about cars and autos generally here that were taught to me by good hands like oga Gazzuz,Sienna and co...with such knowlege, I beat my mechanics hands down when they try any fast game with me... Its called learning by association. I only stated an obvious opinion o...please don't try and bash me cos I will take offense

Jesusloveyou:
I don't like hear-say, the fact is all over the place, even Google will help out.
Because the stolen or mismanaged money by your ineffectual buffoon is more than 60tr naira, but soludo limit it to 30tr naira only base it on the context of 5yrs budget, so if you look at the other areas like crude oil theft, and diversion of crude oil.
Also look at foreign reserve decline, from 47b dollars to $30b.
Again, look at excess crude acc and swf acc .
The stealing is too much to bear.

. I don't want to argue but I just want you to look at things from a critical point of view...simple analogy... Ccan you say Tony Elumelu is a thief because at one point or the other,he employed some persons that committed fraud or stole from UBA

Jesusloveyou:
your ineffectual buffoon that mismanaged more than 30tr naira in 5yrs is not corrupt and those that perform than him are corrupt

. @Jesusloveyou, answer the question... What's ur evidence that oga Jonah stole... Is ur assertion based on facts or on the bandwagon of hear-say... We need solid facts!

BiggyBamBam:
Uber drivers make an average of $45000 a year in the US. Nothing stops the Nigerian drivers from making N4million a year!

Uber also take 25% in the US.

Nigeria drivers should sign up for the INNOSON MOTORS scheme to pay instalment for their cars.

. @BiggyBamBam, ur head dey there jare but the wahala is UBER is responding with bad tactics to competition and that's placing the drivers and partners in tough positions...Bro, with a sound cab, I can even generate more than that in a year after taxes and all expenses paid...I prefer to be a branded loner with classy cab services than a slave with UBER...I-AmMyOwnBoss

davodyguy:
If not for greed.

80,000 - 50,000 expenses = N30,000 gross profit.
N30,000 X 4 weeks = N120,000 gross income for a month.

How many graduates earn N70,000 a month?

Pathetic driver complaining

. Please let's be a bit reasonable with the guy... Won't he maintain his vehicle, and feed his family or do some other miscellaneous spendings... I did a hands on approach to cab driving and make net of 10k every day bringing me to 70k per week if I work on sundays also and that's at least 300k in a month... So don't blame the guy... He has the potential to make more if he were working on his own... Bros haba, u dey look the economy so... 120k no go do anything o

Sexina851:
Sorry I didn't mean for u to feel I was attacking you. Just dat ur comment sounded like he wouldn't be a true Muslim if doesn't listen to some Christian songs. But I think I get u now

Its okay my sister. In a time where we have grown so intolerant of each other, its only good we complement the few sane one around... Whether christian or muslim.
BTW, I always go to the mosque and @MallamBukar is one of the best Imams I know...and we discuss constructively and laugh at each other's knowlege a lot. Love is a way of life...
#Sexina851-goodWoman
#@sbashir10TrueMuslim
#Peace
#Onelove

Sexina851:
So if he wasn't listening to Christian songs, he wouldn't be a true Muslim

. @Sexina851...please understand my post... I did not say so... I was merely complementing a brother cos estremist muslims see christians as infidels... But my brother@sbashir10 embraced the christians as part of the religions that glory one God... BTW, why are you attacking me... I no abuse anyone na... Abeg o... God bless @sbashir10 and my brother @Mallam Bukar Abdulrahman... #BestMuslimsEverLiveth #OneGod... #Peace

eyinjuege:
Go take your medicines....

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Happy sunday

sbashir10:
I'm a Muslim but i enjoyed listening to

Solomon lange and

tope alabi

. Here is a true Muslim @ heart... May you never miss ur way @sbashir10

Temotala:
Forget Okotie and his big mouth... He wants us to carry a dictionary to interpret his confusing statement.



The issue here is - which other pastor can say something like this?

This is what stands T.B. Joshua out from the crowd - money is NOT his driving force.

cc Lalasticlala

. @Temotala, this Okotie mata tire person...all the Paul Adefarasins,the Poju Oyemades, the Sam Adeyemis, the Abraham Ojemens, the David Abioyes to mention but a few are just minding their businesses in Christ and trying to better people's lives but Okotie naim go carry bouncers enter church,drive rolls royce and other exotic cars, divorce at will and even the people in his church still struggle... I might not have been a fan of TB Joshua but with each passing day, I have grown to love him and his ministry... Abeg make una join me beg the rockstar Chris Okotie to leave TB Joshua in peace... Who Okotie help...attention seeker that he is...

Affamefuna:
Thank you for this write up. I wonder y people are painting this devilish write up by bisi as white when we are know the word "abandone " Is what he means. Plz if it is not our responsibility to take care of out parents in old age then whose responsibility is it? Bisi is a pained dude with no moral upbringing which is evident in the trash we writes up and I wonder y people pay heed to him

. @Affemefuna, let's leave Bisi if that's how he sees life... As for me and my household, we will care for papa and mama

demolinka:
Agbèrò go fit this man...see as e hold the claro

. U no go kii persin wit laff... That ur comment sha was hilarious...

woodcook:
I agreed with your position completely on how messed up things are and how we are "required" to take care of our parents. I agree completely with you on all of the above. Thanks bro and I really enjoy having constructive conversation with people like you. No one knows it all when we share ideas constructively it opens room for critical assessment of our individual opinions and biases. Now I just remembered that I have to make arrangement for my papa," I hear sey tomorrow na father's day" and you have also succeeded in reiterating the fact that I should do more for them that the saving I think they have they may not really have it.

Yes o bros
That's the point I was trying to put across but words failed me... The savings and pensions we think they have or are supposed to have is not really there...you just aptly described my sentiments and thanks for your kind and constructive words.
Tomorrow is Father's day o...you see I just learnt this one from you which shows no man knows it all... Abeg make I go buy my father his usual drinks because I know he will host his friends also tomorrow at our expense afterall he don train us finish na... Thanks Jare @Hon WoodCook, you taught me a lot today amongst which is respecting people's opinions and increasing the value of one's argument...a shout out to ur dad on father's day. #RespectsBro

woodcook:
I appreciate your sincerity that you are sticking to your own view about the situation. To be honest, I have parents I known the sacrifices they made and heaven known no single day goes bye without me doing the much I could to ensure that they are safe and comfortable. But the sad through is that I still have to look at this from the light of reasoning. I have come to realize that looking at things and dealing with it for what it is rather than for what it should be will in the long run save one from so much headache.

I am not clamoring for people to desert their parents in old age ( believe me even here in the West I still "beret" the west on how they have come to neglect their old ones over the years and how there is no hope in the the near future that things will get better) but that the danger of placing the such burden completely on kids could ruin their future.

There are talented people I know that never get to pursue their talent apart from the obvious shitting situation of things in Nigeria, they have to focus on their education as it a sure way of them putting food on the table and also helping to raise their younger ones. To them developing their talents come with great risk, a risk that spread beyond them as a person but that also may affect the future of their younger ones and parents if things do south.

My second concern is how our believes and attitudes to social-cultural issue are partly responsible for the state of affairs of our country. Just imagine if you have the mindset that when you get old it is the responsibility of the system to ensure you get your pension as at when due and to ensure that you have the minimum but affordable health care and that financially you can pull through without any help from your kids. With this mindset when it comes to politics and who you chose in office your first thought as a young man is having someone in office that will ensure that the pension scheme are secured and our aged ones are taken care off properly, likewise that will be the idea candidates of your parents as well. But since our parents knew that that responsibilities have been shifted to us and since we have taken that upon ourselves without questioning, we really no longer care what the politician did or did not do. Our primary concern is how to earn enough to take care of our parents, while we "breed" more kids since invariably they will come to our rescue when the time comes - by implication stifling not only their innate talents and the joy of expressing and nurturing their God given talents but being apolitical to the political situation around - which over the years has spelt doom for majority of the people .

@woodcook,its a tough call but we kids have to do what we have to do... Our parents here have no pension and really can't save anything from their salaries which are not paid on time, working for 36 years and going home with a gratuity of a million bucks or less and even at retirement, parents still take care of their 90% jobless kids here... You will even find out that at retirement these kids are still yet to graduate from school...and the savings and pensions of the parents continue going into training those kids. And at graduation, with no jobs, the parents continue watching out for them with more of their savings with the hope that these kids will take care of them sooner or later...

And just a little take home here, no worker can save cash when he is being owed a year salary... Pensions owed for two years and climate for business is not conducive for these parents to do other things to generate cash for the future...
This is what is happening here and I as a sane human will watch out for my folks because I saw what they go through for their kids...

Welcome to Nigeria.
Nice points you gave though
You are a classic example of one who increases the value of his argument... Rather than shouting people down

woodcook:
20 years from today I wont be as strong as I am today neither is pension everything. In as much as I appreciate your effort trying to engage me constructively, I still find it childish that you chose to attack Bisi's sexual orientation than the message he put out.

...Responsibilty comes with love that's why we care for our kids till they can stand... What is right comes with grudges and complaints but u do it cos u r forced to... I think you are mixing two up. Responsibilities are those things that are required of you whether you like it or not, while doing something that is right because it is right comes from a deep sense of genuine care about others.

It is your responsibility to pay your tax as a taxable adult in as much as over the years the government has nothing to show for it and I am sure many people if they could have their ways will not pay.

It is your responsibility to you don't drive and drink no matter how much you are tempted to think you could get away with it. It is your responsibility not to throw a kick-ass party at your parents house when they are out of town despite the urge to do and how fun it could be etc. In most cases ignoring your responsibilities comes with consequences.

While doing what is right is doing things that are in most cases not obligatory. Seeing a homeless man and providing him shelter is not your responsibility but that of the society - akin government ( this is also debatable in most quarters) but due to your love for humanity you did otherwise. etc

One more thing, I think it will be nice if we face the issue under discussion squarely without calling Bisi names and without trying to make it about religion. This is a social cultural problem that borders and I would prefer if we stick to that.

. @Woodcook is still one sane soul remaining on nairaland. Still sticking to my guns but appreciate ur criticisms... Ur words r noted. #Respects

woodcook:
When you give birth to a child it is your responsibility to take care of them. That is a natural law you can not deny or even start to argue but the other way round it is not same.

I am not saying you should forsake your parents in their old age, I am trying to point out the philosophical and inherent difference of what responsibility means under this context.

I understand that we have no functional social system, hence, the need for parents to depend on their children when they are old but then you have to agree that if we as a people start having this conversation of what one's responsibility is and what not, that it might bring awareness and affect in a positive way how people go into the "business" of having several kids ( at the detriment of the kids) with the believe that these kids are their "pension scheme". In truth it is the responsibility of the society to provide a better social system that caters for the old without burdening the youths - but like I said I do understand the social problems in Nigeria and how these things have automatically becomes ones "responsibility". But the truth still remains - it is the right thing to do under the present situation and not your responsibility per se.

As for the "un-Africa" bull-crap.
it is funny are we go all out about what is un-African and when we look around with all our "pro-Africa, pro-delta, pro-Urhobo and pro-warri" ideas we are still one of the most dangerous countries to live in 2017.
With all our superior pro-Africa idea and believes our country still have life expectancy far below most countries in the world.
With all our pro-Urhobo superior culture our country is still a country where a child is more likely to die at birth that in most other places in the world.
With all our superior Warri ideas and ways of doing things our country is still one of the places where kids are left to die on the street because we think they are witch.
With our superior Delta believe and ideas our country is place one of the places where parents give births to lots of children with any plan on how they are going to be raised.

Please wake me up when you have news on how the superior African, Urhobo, Delta or Warri believes and ideas have made the world a better places and has affect lives of people around the world in a positive way.

For fear of nothing fighting the "getting in the mud fight thing" are you saying that if you have kids you are only taking care of them because you want them to take care of you when you are old? If your answer to that is "yes" then the ideal of loving your children unconditionally no longer holds it becomes a "game" business investment - like I have heard many parents say shamelessly countless of time .

. Please tell me twenty years from today if u will feel as strong as u are today... Money and pension plans is not everytin... Family is everytin... Bisi Alimi is just a stupid child with wrong social and sexual orientations... Had his parents being both males or both females, would he have been born and now he talks abt it not being the responsibilty of the kids to care for their parents in old age but they do it cos its right ? Have u ever seen where responsibility is wrong ? And to ur question, if I don't love my kid unconditionally, I won't invest my time and energy on him or her...and saying its a must for me to care for my kids but not they caring for me in my frail days as its not their resposibility is a wrong assertion... When there was famine in Egypt, it was Joseph the governor of Egypt that saw his dad thru...Responsibilty comes with love that's why we care for our kids till they can stand... What is right comes with grudges and complaints but u do it cos u r forced to... Bro don't let Bisi Alimi play yu... He is just using words to play games with people... I too old for his shit... My opinion... No offence intended... #peace

eyinjuege:
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You're just like a bungalow, with nothing upstairs... As dumb as anything.
Its a pity though, as you're just a waste of space, a space occupying lesion, a useless mass of compressed flesh.
You need to go get a job, and try and sort out your future.
If you like, don't invest and plan for your old age. Its your type that goes about begging on the streets.
Let the curse upon your family stop on your head, break the cycle! Leave an inheritance for your own children!!!

. No need insulting u, u just showed ur stupidity is follow come... No modifications

Una wehdone o...I read all the comments from start to finish... Na laugh wan finish me.. As for me sha,I no fit sit down near one not too mention to date or bleep one... My level of fear for them is more than wetin make Peter deny Jesus 3times...I too young to die abeg... Cele babe... Abeg let me come and be going... *sha some people here get heart sha o...una see babe wey hold ogumeh + 3 red candle and u still say u wan bleep her clean mouth... Even angels go see u run wen the wahala start o

bounty007:
you finish work.. nice one.

. @Bounty007,that Onatisi guy just hit the nail on the head...

onatisi:
It means he isnt in tune with current happenings even within the aso rock. If his photographer can be changed and he wasnt aware,do u know how many ppl within the villa would have been changed? Little details like this points out clearly that there are some ppl shielding ppl off from the president. Dont forget that bayo is a yoruba man . Most likely there are 2 camps now,the osinbajo camp and the buhari camp. The continuos stay of buhari in nigeria and aso rock regardless of whether he is incapable or not means power and authority remains firmly with his group. The moment he travels out for medical treatment,he must transfer all power to his vice. The buhari grouo doesn't want this and they will do anything to make sure buhari remains in nigeria. This isnt about buhari but about power tussle

. @Onatisi,had I the power,I would have made u a Member of the Niger (MON)... U spoke the salient truth... Yar'adua season one and two playing over again

God bless you Op... I almost cried reading this. I also remember a girl raped by a prophet her father gave her to for deliverance...it happened when she was 12 and today @28,no hope for a husband cos she can't relate with the male folk...the trauma is still strong and won't go away... I see her everyday around my street and try to be her friend but she is hostile until thru persistence,she told me what happened... I was miffed...once again God bless u op... Rape is not a funny issue. And to think of how our value system have fallen to the extent of broad daylight rape with cheers from onlookers...God have mercy

woodcook:
He never said you should ignore your parents. Please understand him before you condemn him. His argument is bothered on the fact that is it not your "responsibility" that I agree with him. But is it the right thing to take care of your parents sure it is the right then and people should do that. As a young man if you understand the differences between what are the responsibilities of your kids towards you it will affect the way you raise them and how much effort you put into planning your retirements ( I am not saying that planning for retirement is foul proof method not waiting on your kids to come to your aid but you have to try at least. There are people out there not trying at all). I know that our social system is non-existent and families more especially the aged depend on their wards to get through, thank God so far most kids have been living up to the challenge.

To throw more light on the issue of responsibility and doing the right thing: it is not your responsibility to extend a helping hand to beggars on the street but it is the right thing to do.
It is not your responsibility to provide electricity for yourself but giving the situation of our power sector buying generator and providing power for your household is the right thing to do ( if you can afford it).
It is not your responsibility to sink borehole and wells in city so as to provide your own water but it is the right thing to do under the current arrangement. Neither it is your responsibility to get security to man your street but it is the right thing to do for your own safety.

. @Woodcook, it is our responsibility and the right thing to do when the strength of those who nurtured u are gone... How about ur parents dumping ur butt and saying its not their responsibilty... That gay idiot just passed a devilish message across that we should abandon our parents cos its not our responsibility and here are some people trying to paint it in another light...call a spade a spade... The mofo just said... ABANDON UR PARENTS... Anyways I won't cos its unchristian and unafrican and its un-deltan and its anti-Urhobo and its anti-Warri and its Anti-Me... @Woodcook, tell that mofo I said he should bleep to hell

eyinjuege:
Every parent should have a plan for their old age and not rely on their children, for their children are also human and can always disappoint you at any time.
Raise your children right, do your best for them, but also have a retirement plan, and not rely on them. Invest in yourself and your old age. Have only the no of children you can afford to raise, and at the same time save for your old age.
Some children will support their parents, some won't. Some parents will still continue to support their children who are married depending on the size of their pockets, No size fits all. Family dynamics differ.

. You just typed trash and felt u made sense...Children are the ultimate retirement plan that's why you had them and invested ur time and energy on them... How about ur parents saying they are just obeying the forces of nature,have sex and give birth to u and dump ur sorry ass and say u should have had a survival plan where u were coming from... That it does not fall on them to care for u and they were just obeying natural sex urge...It is dimwits like u that have plenty to eat and abandon ur folks in the village to suffer... Seun come and see Gays and lesbians hiding on nairaland o abi na u permit them...

forMom:
sai baba...


I'd want you to remain president for the next two decades.
#cool_change
#loving_it
#baba_for_two_more_decades
#corruption_must_be_defeated.

lmao

. Chai see youths wey suppose be leaders of tomorrow praying that a 90+ year old greatgrandpa continue ruling them... When will we learn... Abeg na only u and ur family go remain for here by then . No offense please... We just no like suffer...

SalamRushdie:
Both you and I know what that girl wants to watch is African Magic / Telenova and not Nat Geo.... And please what was your boeing cessna argument about with your little cousin?

. I cannot say I know what that little girl went to watch at her neighbours house... If u say u know, good for you... My little cousin has watched discovery channel so much that he actually was trying to school me in air planes... I just waka comot before smallie go embarrass me... BTW, what I wrote is my opinion and not meant to slight u... Sorry if mentioning u was offensive... Not intended. #Peace