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hopefulLandlord:
nah, but it is what it is

Brother, Make sure it isn't in my case

frank317:
When you Desire something you work towards it. This attitude increases you chance of having that thing you desire (although it's not a guarantee)

The problem with good and godly girls is that they think that being God and godly is the same thing as working towards having the kind of man you want. That's not true.

The man you desire also have needs, he has other personalities he like in a lady and good and godly lifestyle is just one out of many of them.

Good girls tend to think that being good is the formula to getting their desired man. But bad girl are willing to go the extra mile.

Thanks for the bolded.

This is just the difference. A good girl who is willing to understand more about life and needs of others stands a better chance that bad girls.. but many good girls would prefer to remain in their comfort zone until it is too late

I gained a lot from your piece. Many devoted Christian ladies should go through it.

If I wasn't willing to understand more about life, I am now. I'm willing to satisfy the needs of the man who is worthy of it

hopefulLandlord:
lol

my point is that just as the word "good" has different meanings and levels to different people, so does the word "Godly"

eg certain Christians see any trouser wearing female as "Ungodly", some see nothing wrong in it

certain Christians see any makeup wearing female as "Ungodly", some see nothing wrong in it

certain Christians see any earrings wearing female as "Ungodly", some see nothing wrong in it

so it goes on and on and on, varying amongst even church members


miss you too

Funny enough, I don't put on all those things but I don't see them as ungodly.

Who knows, maybe the man just for me might change me from those lifestyle

I'm glad you miss me too. Thanks dear.

GoodMuyis:
@bennyann

You have arrived at a very good point, but the problem is not with Godly ladies, but those who perceived they dont deserve such kind of lady due to their previous life-style, hence they look at them as Holier than I and their some who arrived at the judgement that the Godly ladies where always Do not come near me for I am Holier than thou. Their assumption is usually with Phobia of getting negative response from them.

Its just like you being know to be a Preacher lady in your area, It will only take a person like you or almost to approach you for life-time relationship.

Even the so called Marriage of most of them is as a result of tolerating each other, either of them is just managing due to many factor.

I've never thought of the bolded that way. It's now I'm beginning to think in that direction. You may be right you know, but those involved know the real answers.

Mine is to accept them and show them care when I can but when they demand for something not pleasant to God, then I'm sorry by God's grace, I will never fall for that.

The last point you raised, must be taken seriously, a lot of guys had with wick emotion end-up engaging themselves. There is no way you can engaged in close relationship with friend without developing feelings for them, its Just natural, especially for young people. Even myself their two ladies very close me, I do partially avoid sometimes when i feel my emotion is not stable, one older than me, this one share personal stuff with me yet she is engage.

The Emotional feeling or affection is generally Young peoples challenge, But the best is not to make opposite gender a too-close friend.

Hmmmm. You noticed too.

I've been there enough to know it doesn't turn out purely as portrayed. It's was only by grace I came out without being hurt.

Just as you said, maybe it's the problem of young people mostly.

And I agree again with your last statement. You know, good people are trap the most in that friendship of a thing, either because they're not ready for a relationship or because they always want to be around when the other is in need of them. but in either way, spending too much time with the opposite sex as best friends isn't advisable at all.

Those who really want to stay pure in that should be cautious.

hopefulLandlord:
this is simply not true in my experience, infact I can go on limb and say that reverse is most times the case!!

Is it the reverse you want for your sister? Aba!

hopefulLandlord:
this might sound pedantic but there are different levels or perception of the word "Godly"

Heiiiiiiiiii. Brother Hope, my lecturer, Oya teach me.

I should have used the word 'spaghetly' in the place of 'Godly', don't you think so too?

I miss you bro

hopefulLandlord:
you drive ambulances

GoodMuyis you better come for brother Hope

onyenze123:
Let me chip in. you are where you are because of your previous thoughts and actions. I am glad you are now out of your closet and ready to mingle. it's a positive action towards relationship. If you want to succeed, learn and unlearn then take action. you will get the results you desire with time

Thank you dear. You also knew where I went wrong. I noticed and I'm trying to come out of it.

You know, I just locked myself in all in the name of protecting myself. It worked though but it's time to come out of it for my own good.

Thank you onyenze123

obinna58:
Yes living Godliness tends to have some negative effect on one's lifestyle, it deprives one many things, Godly lifestyle makes the choices not u, it makes u controversial, it determines ur profession, creates enmity for both existing and in existing beings, chooses people for u to interact with and also makes u strongly harsh to some without even knowing.

You know I'm free to do anything I like but not everything is permissible. I take charge of freedom and don't let it control me.

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Philippians 4:8

The above is the type of lifestyle expected of Godly people. Anything that is of good report is what is termed as the lifestyle of Christians.

About being harsh to people, that's not the quality of a Godly person. The Bible did not tell us to be, God doesn't support that.

The worst it blinds u generally in everything and makes u understand that u still the best among others.

The above is not true. Christians should be blind to the world and the fear of God will give us wisdom through it all.

There's a difference between religious people and those that have the fear of God from the inside out. And those that have the fear of God, don't think themselves better than others or better than they should. And that's because they love their neighbors as themselves.

That's why some say good people tends suffer the most cos no one will ever tagg any religious blinded bad even when they really are, this is as a result of 99% of religious people around.

When I say Godly people, I'm talking about those that have the fear of God in them. Those that love God and reverence Him.


Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

If the above qualities show that a Godly person is bad, then I know not what else to say.
You have to know there's a difference between those that are like the pharisees and those that are like Jesus.

I'm a very sociable and open minded person. All I've learnt is to come out of my closet and mingle, the right way of course . There's time for learning and time for applying it. Not because some people err in certain areas, means God told them to go that way.

kingralph:
The question is what makes one a good girl or bad girl? Who is a good girl and who is a bad girl?

That question came to my mind also. That's why it was qualified with 'Godly' so we know the 'good' we're talking about, if at all there are different levels or perception of the word 'good'.

obinna58:
Whether Godly or not
Ur lifestyle determines ur future

Everything we do today determines tomorrow, whether we reap good or bad harvest.

Godliness doesn't stand for something perceived to be bad, does it?

MZLady39:
BennyAnn,
I'm sorry....thought you were younger cause you sound so innocent & precious.
My youngest sister is in her late 20s also.
Anyhow, I totally understand. But you know what?
You may not be able to ever have those mouths shut.
People talk....they believe what they want to believe. I've been very guilty of this in times past.
But you have to ask yourself who the people are that are spewing that negative talk.
Do their lives give any evidence of Christ for them to be making such statements?
You just have to know who you are in Christ.
Your confidence must come through Him regardless.
People will see it....

You just opened my eyes to the bolded and I think that settles it. Thanks a lot sis.

I don't know about any other but that man's mouth will eventually be shut that I believe.
Thanks MZlady39. You've really been of help.

davtosh:
They always end up with good homes though atimes it might come late. But late goog marriages are better than early marriages ending in divorce afterwards

Thank you davtosh

MZLady39:
Part 2....
BennyAnn,
What I'm coming to realize in this Christian journey is that our timing may not be God's timing.
Now I must say, I made some terrible relationship choices (which definitely delayed & blocked potential suitors)....and paid the price. The thing is I knew that the guys weren't the "one", yet I wanted to satisfy my flesh....so I proceeded.
I, also, personally wasn't ready for what a God ordained marriage truly consists of. I would've been divorced or in jail.
However, there are many reasons why people may be single at later ages....
Folks shouldn't be so quick to judge.
Especially in a country where I constantly see headlines in the Family section on NL where nothing but crises after crises are occurring.
Ask yourself if you are ready to take the second most important step in your life?
Why do you want to get married? What is the purpose for you and the guy? Will God be glorified?
Marriage is not about "self".
You clearly want to be married. God knows it...and perhaps He still needs to do some finishing touches on you....or perhaps on him.
Be careful who you allow to speak into your life. Words are very powerful..you must keep a positive mindframe & dwell on God's view about you.
Be encouraged...
Sorry so long

All I want is for the mouth of those who feel good girls won't go far in life, to be shut. And when they see good girls as liabilities, they should go to the bad girls to satisfy them and leave the good girls who wouldn't make it in life alone.

It's a pity many people feel same about good girls in this generation and God will help us to prove them wrong.

dingbang:
I just don't want to judge any good girl here tho...



But I think Godly ladies need to drop that sense of self righteousness. They should understand that people are there for a reason and there opinions about life aren't always applicable


In a nutshell, Good Godly girls should always be open minded.

Please what are the qualities of self righteousness you've noticed in Godly ladies? I just want to know what you term as self righteousness so I can learn.

And are you saying Godly ladies who are open minded cannot be said to be self righteous?

MZLady39:
BennyAnn,
Sister..wow! It's been a long time! Glad to know you're alive & well.
Believe it or not, but I've been thinking about you...wondering if you were okay.
Well I got my answer today.
Anyhow, I take it you are young....late teens to maybe mid 20s or so?
I really felt impressed to respond to you after reading your post because you seem like a sincere, kind and Godly young lady who loves her Lord and wants honest answers.
The fate of a Godly young lady.....is to be mated with a Godly young man...(the man God has for you). If you've been praying, God knows...and at the appointed time (if He has called you to be married)...then that man will recognize you as his helper and it will happen. Have faith!
Sister,
I'm gonna be very transparent right now.....brutally honest.
According to Nigeria's standard, I'm an old maid...(all my youth is gone, my eggs rotten, best years gone etc.) since I am single at.. . If I had low self-esteem, I would probably go into a depression from all that I've read on NL in these few months I've been a member
YET in my mind, I know the best is yet to come...be it marriage or singleness! And no one can tell me differently or steal my joy!
"Feelings/emotions" are a state of mind. They, however, can change and are not always reliable. You have to have that unshakeable joy....that peace only Christ can give...about a future relationship.
Part 2 Coming In A Moment

Wow! Dear sis, thanks for your words of encouragement. I think there's a lot I can learn from you. I can say I'm in my.... twenties . And I admire your stand in God through it all. I pray the desires of your heart are granted this year as you've encouraged me.

I'm not desperate to get married cos I would have gotten married to anyone that shows interest if I was but the words of that man sometimes come to mind but I have to take dominion over it.

If the man who genuinely loves me comes around now, I would be so happy but if he doesn't life goes on. But I will do anything to please God and also to wait for that one who is mine - that's my focus.

Thank you MZlady39, I really admire the strength of your heart and yes it's been a while.

Sometime ago, a man told me "good girls like me are the ones who turn out so pitiable and they eventually settle down with men that aren't noble or Honourable while the bad ones end up settling down with wealthy and Honourable men and tend to be treated like a queen as though they never lived a despicable life"

I immediately renounced it by replying that won't be my portion and he'll live to see how God would beautify my life to the extent he would wish he had swallowed up those words.

But after that scene died down, I thought to myself - is this man not saying the truth? Because I looked around me and realized most ladies have things going well for them and even settled down with high caliber of men one never thought would settle with them.
But I thank God and I'm happy for such people because I do spend time praying for such people when I feel if they continue with that lifestyle, it may lead to their regret. So it feels so good to see them blessed and prosperous and especially, settled down with their own family already. I mean that's a testimony But what that man told me began creating fear in me.

LESSONS LEARNT
Though I sometimes get scared of what the man said but as a Christian, I shouldn't allow that and I think if what the man said come to pass, it would be because of some of my behaviors and principles I ought to change and which are:

1. I have to minimize the way I stay indoors or just keep to myself. I have to let go of the fear of going to New places, making new friends and getting to know people all in the name of protecting me. If God has protected me this far, He can't leave me now.

2. A strong mindset of being in only one relationship which it's a must it leads to marriage. I desire so much just to be in a relationship with one person in my life. I hate with a passion being in a romantic relationship here and there, not to talk of the imagination of being touched by different people all over the place. Eeeeeeeww.
But what do I do when such a relationship doesn't work? Should I then kill myself or force it? NO

3. Being in a relationship with someone that's as Godly as you or should I say more Godly. Some persons especially pastors to be or pastors because of the height of purity they believe they've attained in life makes it difficult for them to overlook some mistakes their partners make which could have easily been overlooked by unbelievers or 'the not so righteous'.

I desired being taken to the altar by a Pastor but I doubt that now. Because it seems those in the world know how to love their woman than the so called Holy Ghost filled men.

4. I shouldn't give too much attention to those who claim they love me or they just want to be my friends. I've observed most men don't like to be given attention by the woman they claim they love, even the so called good guys. It's like it's in their nature, immediately they find out or they think you care too much for them or you love them way too much, they then think you can't do without them. This makes them take you for a fool or a non entity. No wonder good guys get married to bad girls and vice versa.

That makes me wonder, when they get married, should their wives not care for them or give them attention as they desired? I doubt if they would find that funny

This 4th point should be my No.1 lesson but I don't think it would be easy for me to go by it. Because my heart is filled with too much love to give out. To me, it takes more than a strong heart or a strong decision not to care for those you like not to talk of those you love or cherish. I hope I get to that point though but it will really hurt not giving attention to the one you care about.

5. I should not love first. I should be the one to receive love, enough of it before I can say yes, it's time for me to give back love.
This is a major lesson I've learnt but it's also the one that would really hurt if I have to make the person who genuinely loves me and is not blinded by ego go through that. He doesn't deserve it.

6. I no longer believe in the platonic kind of friendship between members of the opposite sex. I'm a kind who do have one close friend at a time depending on the change of environment and it turned out guys have been more of my close friends than the ladies. Though ladies are more comfortable with male friends but I think I can advise that the opposite sex shouldn't be a 'best friend'.
I realized it doesn't actually turn out pure as people portray. And that's because one of you might have developed or will eventually develop what I can call a Sexual kind of feeling towards the other. And guys out there who doesn't want to come closer to you for friendship sake but for relationship sake will find it difficult to come closer to you and may eventually quit and that's because they see what you don't see or what you pretend to never see.

After my platonic friendship with the second or third guy, I came to the conclusion that there's nothing like 'best friends' between a guy and a lady and that's because I got to know they had feelings for me in one way or the other. Though some denied the feelings, I eventually got to know through how they tried having a feel of my body.
That shows there seems to be something going on behind closed doors so I wouldn't advice anyone to get so close to the opposite sex in the guise of best friends. I also wouldn't advise anyone to leave his or her partner in the friendship of the opposite sex.

What's my fate then? I'm waiting to see because I refuse to be a good girl gone bad. I won't let the words of men that want to destroy me change me. I won't let the failure of good or Godly guys loving me change me. If someone like me exists and can still love then there should be someone for me out there who is good, Godly and still knows how to love.
I refuse to be among the good girls who end up badly. God help me.

I hope to look back on this thread and smile that I made it, some time in the future.

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Are you married or single? Let me know your view of good, Godly single girls, the advantages and disadvantages.

This is serious! This is what hahn's thread has turned into. The first time I saw a thread like this had something do with HardMirror.

Hmmmmm

This thread is full of haters, pretenders, deceivers and confused people.

It seems those trolling know each other outside nairaland and they come here and try to involve innocent minds.

Please Seun, there should be a DSS or SSS section. I mean a section for investigations and undercover stories by amateurs and professionals.

I'm just tired of rumors, backbitings, backstabbings and hateful rantings on the religion section.

Everyone here seem not be given a chance to be trusted even and this won't make the religion section to consist of what it was purely meant for. This section has become too corrupt for my liking.

LiberaDeus I came here for you.... I hope I'm safe?

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I have no words to describe how disgusted and enraged I am by such corporate callousness! This should be a crime! Nigerians and Ghanaians AT HOME, PLEASE READ:



They are killing us slowly in English speaking west Africa , and we do not know.

Apparently, for 9 years, a civil law case was brought to a court in Nigeria against Coca Cola Bottling Company on both Nigeria and Ghana , who are manufacturers of Fanta and Sprite, which impacts directly on our health and lives.


Basically, one Dr Fijabi, had in 2007, bought about N12 million worth of Fanta and Sprite drinks from Coca Cola Ltd, and exported same to the United Kingdom.

However, on reaching England, under Health and Safety regulations, the authorities tested the products and found them to contain "poisonous levels of Benzoic Acid and Sunset addictives"

And were therefore declared "unfit for human consumption".

The whole export consignment was consequently destroyed.

Dr Fijabi therefore, sued Coca Cola for Negligence, breach of duty of care to its customers, and loss of earnings.

The Almighty Coca Cola Bottling company offered only one defence in court :

That Mr Fijabi did not tell them he was going to Export the Fanta and the Sprite to England; and that they were strictly manufactured "FOR LOCAL CONSUMPTION ONLY." In West Africa.


So what Coca Cola Bottling Company is telling us, is that, If they knew the Fanta and Sprite were to be exported to England, they would not have added so much poisonous acid;

But for the people of Nigeria and Ghana it is normal to poison us.

That is the official courtroom statement of Coca Cola Bottling Company of West Africa .

Yesterday, The Lagos High Court under Justice Adedayo Oyebanji, was 'crying' when She gave judgement against Coca Cola, declaring them callous and negligent.

She 'cursed the parents' of NAFDAC the distributor for coca cola products in West Africa for not carrying out proper laboratory checks on 'minerals' production in Nigeria and Ghana.

Cancer was listed as one of the ailments that the present Fanta and sprite can cause, especially if taken with Vitamin C tablets.

She therefore, ordered Coca Cola to henceforth add a WRITTEN WARNING on Fanta and Sprite bottles that "this product must not be taken with Vitamin C."

This is something you people in both Ghana and Nigeria should concern yourselves with, but not whether Dollar has gone up or down.


©Mazi Abe Media (MAM)™ March 2017"

MrPresident1:
Yes. Because if the people had not sinned, the abomination would not have happened. The progression is

Israel sinned》》God withdrew His cover over them》》they are conquered》》the abomination occurs, heathens breach the temple of God》》Israel is deported》》the land becomes desolate because the presence of God is not there.

Even the people who occupy the land after the desolation would marvel at the degree of devastation Deuteronomy 29:24

Ok. Following

MrPresident1:
God's people sinned truly, but their sin is not the abomination that causes desolation, the abomination is that heathens would step foot or stand in the holy place. Strangers were not supposed to enter into the congregation of the LORD, Lamentations 1:10, so by setting foot on ground that is forbidden to them, the heathen had committed abomination. The heathen set foot on the Sanctuary of God, this is the abomination. It was the conquest of Israel by her enemies, it was the abomination that would lead to the desolation of the land because once defeated, they would be deported from their land and the land would enjoy her sabbaths. Desolate.

I get you. But the abomination took place because the people of God allowed it,right?

Muafrika2:

Cool story.

All were useful vessels that served the same God in unique capacities. Its true that God always answers prayers. But you may fail to notice if you are out of tune with God.

Its like praying to have God increase patience, love, etc honestly I stopped making such prayers They will come at you in form of what you are trying to escaspe

I understand you. It's like our prayers mean something different to God. And the amazing thing is that God's way turns out to give a more beautiful answer than the one we're expecting that looks so direct.

God knows best. He's really mysterious and amazing. His ways and thoughts are really beyond ours. What should comfort us is that He does all things for our own good.

enshy:
This is Christs Second Coming.
It ends the Great Tribulation.
What Joy there is in my soul? All shall see Christ in His Glory and Splendour.
This same JESUS! Im waiting to reign with Him om earth for 1000 years.

Me I can't wait ooo. I only pray I should fulfill all I had to by the time He comes for me.
I really wish I'm with Him now but I must fulfill my purpose.

MrPresident1:
Any questions yet?

Do you understand me?

What I understand so far is this:
God's people were the ones that committed the abomination by desecrating His temple and disobeying Commandments or warnings. So God brought desolation upon them through the heathen as a form of punishment.

So the abomination that caused the desolation at that time was the desecration of the temple.

CatfishBilly:
According to the movie, Fighting Temptations, the abomination that causes desolation is bringing guns to church.

You ehn.

That falls under the desecration of the Holy place and that's one of the main abominations that caused desolation.

But how many years ago did you watch the movie that you still remember that?

MZLady39:
Sir,
I was gonna refer her to the "The Destruction of Jerusalem", which is the 1st chapter in The Great Controversy by Ellen G. White...but glad you gave her that website. It's a very good website.

Thank you dear. Forgive me for not mentioning you because in my mind I did on my last two threads. I guess it's because I haven't saved your moniker yet I failed in that. Please forgive me sis.

And thanks for the referral. Will check that also.

MrPresident1:
Bennyann, I will be providing answers to your question in two parts and will try to use Scriptures to do most of the talking, so no one is accused of personal interpretation.


Part A

God warned the Israelites that if they disobeyed Him, He would cause their enemies to overthrow them and also cause their land to be desolate. He warned that even their enemies who would occupy their land while they were dispersed would marvel at the level of the desolation of the land

Leviticus 26:32-33
32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it.
33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.

The Abomination which causes desolation is the entering in into the temple of the heathen which leading to the dispersal of the Israelites; this is the conquest of the Israelites.


Jeremiah 22:5
5 But if ye will not hear these words, I swear by myself, saith the Lord, that this house shall become a desolation.

Lamentations 1:10
The adversary hath spread out his hand upon all her pleasant things: for she hath seen that the heathen entered into her sanctuary, whom thou didst command that they should not enter into thy congregation.

God was warning Israel in Jeremiah 22:5 that if Israel continued in her wickedness He would make their land desolate. Israel did not receive the admonition from the LORD. Israel refused to change her ways, so because of this God allowed her to be defeated by Babylon, this was the first Desolation, when the heathen entered the temple.

Jeremiah 25:9
Behold, I will send and take all the families of the north, saith the Lord, and Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof, and against all these nations round about, and will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, and an hissing, and perpetual desolations.

Lamentations 3:47
Fear and a snare is come upon us, desolation and destruction.

Daniel 9:2
In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.

The destruction of the House of God, or the Temple, or Jerusalem by the Babylonians was the first abomination (entry of the heathen into Jerusalem) that caused first desolation.

Take note that Babylon was the leading ruling nation of the world at that time.

End of Part A

Next part please

“When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
Lk 21:20‭-‬28 NIV
http://bible.com/111/luk.21.20-28.NIV

DoctorAlien:
Bennyann, please follow the link below to find out what the abomination of desolation is.

https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/51/t/the-abomination-of-desolation

Thank you so much. I was really enlightened. The other sites I tried were talking about Zeus and the rest but everything within me accept the site you shared.

But you know the abomination comes before the desolation. I just want to be sure if the desolation will take place after rapture. What's your say?

Pidgin2:
Hi, Bennyann, haven read through those passages thoroughly, I think the abomination that causes desolation is referring to the Antichrist. It seems to be referring to a representative of satan sent to deceive children of God

You're right sis. I believe it means the anticrist will deceive God's people so as to be allowed in God's temple.
May God see us through. Thanks sis

enshy:
Its deep my bro, very deep!
Its prophetic, it will happen in Jerusalem, an attempt by the Devil, False Prophets and his agents to desecrate the temple and destroy the Jews.
It will be clearly seen by all, an erected statue, a set up kingdom and reign - II Thess 2:3-4..
It comes after the Rapture when the saints are caught up with Christ to be with Him forever.
The abomination of desolation will happen during the Great Tribulation which is for 7years in 2 phases of 42months (3.5 yrs). The Jews will take back control of the temple and go back to sacrifices before the Anti Christ will take over the cities, the temples and the places of worship.
Those in Christ Jesus would not witness it! May none of us witness it in Jesus name....Amen!!
God wants all to have knowledge of the latter events that would be unfolding soon.

Amen

alBHAGDADI:
The abomination of desolation will be caused by the Islamic Mahdi aka Antichrist. This desolation is most likely to be the image of the beast which this Antichrist will place on the temple mount after his soldiers have destroyed the temple.

Thank you alBHAGDADI

Your insight shows you know where the main antichrist will arise from, that's why your ideology seems slightly different. And I have the same idea with you on that especially since their own Jesus is expected to fight the Christians or soo...

But about what causes the desolation... The Bible shows the children of God are the ones who originate it by involving themselves in abominable things against God and the desolation takes place after so much warnings and corrections until their cup of iniquity is full. Then God uses his enemies or unbelievers to cause desolation as the punishment for the abomination committed by His people who has rejected or forgotten Him.

And please, will the desolation take place after the rapture or before?

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak.
Mt 24:15‭-‬18 NIV

The above is the reason I ask. Because I thought after the rapture no one can run or hide from the antichrist.

“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
Mt 24:22 NIV

I see the above supports it's after the rapture. Thanks.