₦airaland Forum

safariman:
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Sorry you lost me there, what's your point about my posts regarding Ghana? Are you saying I shouldn't be on Nairaland?

My point was you are on a Nigerian forum, but most of your posts are about Ghana.  And yes, you have the right to be here on NL, but you shouldn't be accusing someone of falsifying their nationality just because I said I referred to myself as AA, which when pointed out, I quickly corrected to say that I am NA.  You went hellbent to say that if you were a betting man, you'll put up your mortgage and I then challenged you and you balked

@ PhysicsQED
Very well said and observed

PhysicsQED:
Bennyboy11 if you don't know anything, don't just speak up merely for the sake of peaking. Why fabricate stuff just because you feel offended about something?


In reality, as Nigerian in America, I have heard many Nigerian Americans refer to themselves as African American, especially the kids of immigrants (though not necessarily the parents themselves), no doubt because within American society that's what they are ultimately seen as, and because some identify with the AA struggle/culture/etc. I've seen many NA's in AA cultural groups while in college. And for official census purposes and for filling out racial information before tests or surveys, Nigerian Americans are "African American or black American" (1 choice, as in, these two are considered equivalent).

safariman is obviously not a kid, so he doesn't have the excuse of just actually seeing himself as no different from an AA, but if you were in America, you would have immediately realized that his use of African American despite being Nigerian was in the more general sense it is used to distinguish black Americans from non-blacks. While he and some other Nigerian Americans may refer to themselves as African American to demarcate what ethnic bloc of America they belong to or for official purposes, he should have avoided using it in the context of this discussion, but that doesn't mean that it has anything to do with insecurity.


As for him being one of those "ghana hating nigerians" I haven't seen any evidence of that and he admitted upfront that Lagos was more dangerous than Accra without trying to diss or downgrade Ghana in anyway to make up for having to make that admission, like a real Ghana hating Nigerian would have. His claim on ghana being more dangerous than Jamaica seems implausible without any evidence and only based on supposed "atmosphere" so I can why you're annoyed, but don't resort to character assassination ("ghana hating nigerian" and fabrication ("Any Nigerian or Ghanaian for that matter that refers to themselves as an African American has some insecurities,". This whole digression should end here.

safariman:
@OP sorry to be off topic.

I have to defend myself regarding Bennyboy11 accusation of me not being a Nigerian and a wanting to claim AA

If anyone has a chance, please check out Bennyboy11's limited posts (most of which are about Ghanaian affairs, huh?), but yet, he is here on NL accusing me and questioning my Naija nationality/authenticity and furthermore, that I want to be an AA because I once referred myself as an AA in a previous post when I should have said correctly that I am a Nigerian/American "N/A", and not an AA.

Sorry you lost me there, what's your point about my posts regarding Ghana? Are you saying I shouldn't be on Nairaland?

Le Moor:
Semantics? Really?

Le Moor:
Interesting way to try and apply attributes,
One thing to note tho' Wesley speaks like Wesley but looks more like Djimon (not that there is anything wrong with that) than he does Shemar Moore.

safariman:
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For me on the business side, we took extra precaution when we travelled to Ghana versus when we go to Jamaica.  As I have said earlier, feeling secured is not only based on statistics, but may be related to what our hosts told us as to what to expect and how one truly feels when you are in that particular country/environment.

Jamaica takes a lot of time and pride in making sure that visitors and to some extent, residents (who are not involved in illegal activites) are relatively secured except in the ghettos.  Although, appearance and on the surface, things may be super visual and not be a big deal, but if you have been to Jamaica, can you compare the appereance of a Jamaican police/constable compared with a Ghanania police?  Perception agin may be reality,
And come to think about it, we (Nigeria included) are all 3rd world countries.
Just my obervation

safariman:
@Bennyboy11
One cannot compare Accra with Lagos, Accra is much much safer. The last time I was in Ghana was in 2009 and I was in East Lagon area, a very nice place, but even then, we were very viligant.

@OAM4J
I plan to be in Jamaica in April with a team of doctors on a medical mission trip.

MzDarkSkin:
^^LOL no thats a cartoon I made of "myself". As for your comment on Michael Manley, my family are loyal and "die-hearted" PNP supporters! He was a real hero to us, God bless his soul. There were ALOT of fishy secretive American involvement in his various assasination attempts for siding with Fidel Castro. And people dont realize something as "random" as the story of Patrice Lumumba from the Congo to even the blood diamonds of Angola and Sierra Leone are related to what is going on in Jamaica, this has been proven and written about. 

Anyway i don't want to say too much on that issue so I will leave it there.  We agree on most things so as you said its done. 

safariman:
@0AM4J
I respect your opinion, as for me, I have been going to Jamaica for the past 20 years and during the '70s I represented Nigerian at the Nigeria vs Ghana games so I visited Accra at that time and I now go there on business.

In Jamaica, I have travelled through Trillani, Via, Montego Bay, Spanish town, Race Course, Port Maria, St Elizabeth and I have met with many  Custors and once made a courtesy call to the then 1990s Nigeria's Ambassador to Jamaica (a Dr. from Ekiti or Ondo state) and I have never once experienced any problem and that is why my opinion is based on my personal experience.  I travelled to Jamaica at least once a year.
When we do business in Ghana our security and business details are totally different preparation wise than when we do business in Jamaica.

Again, I agree with you on some issues that doing business in the inner city and ghettos in any city is quite different than being a tourist visiting Montego Bay, Dunn's River and staying at the resorts, the same could be said about a lot of other countries.  Even here in the US, there are some places here in DC or Baltimore that I don't go at night.

Correct me if I wrong, don't the Jamaicans treat you different (with more respect) than if you were a Jamaican, at least that what I have experienced

MzDarkSkin:
Right and Africa doesn't have any garrisons? You guys I swear.

@BK you know damn well in Jamaica they don't just rob/kill foreigners just because, they usually go for those who are naive and show offs.


This is not limited to Jamaica. I don't know how ppl can say there is no prejudice against us but then act like we are the "killers of the world". Learn the history of Jamaica and the C.I.A's involvement and you will see why there is endless crime. Don't talk about us like we are a disgrace when you don't know the facts.

@Benny boy: I understand what you are saying but I still believe that is a stigma we have had to live with due to the drug trades in which we gained notoriety in the 1980s. Kingston/St.Catherine are only AREAS in Jamaica, NOT ALL OF Jamaica. Our population is only less than a full 3 million, if we were dropping like flies as you all WANT to believe my whole family in those areas would be wiped out. Like I said there are more random killings in places like the Congo/Uganda than Kingston. I said it.

There may be love on both sides and I appreciate that but I don't take this "those Jamos" talk. I dont appreciate it at all and the willingness to stereotype us.

0AM4J you dont know anything about Jamaica. "watch your back" seriously?, they know who is part of what, they dont bother just anybody. This is AMAZING!

bk.babe97y:
Man, just shut it! Yeah, your a citizen, still doesnt change the fact that your Nigerian/African. Wht the hell is this "Nigerian-American" ish? Are u seeking acceptance so bad?

Ok, lemme ask u a question; when u speak who do you sound like, Phillip Emegweali or Wesley Snipes?

Who do u bear a closer Physical resemblance to, Shemar Moore or Djimon Hansou?

If u dont look like Shemar Moore  and/or have an American accent like Wesley Snipes when u speak, how then can u look outta place walking the streets of Kingston?

safariman:
^^
African American as a Nigerian that is now American citizen not necessarily the black americans born in USA.  I am also proud to be a Nigerian, I once ran track for Nigerian
So again as an AA or Nigerian American, I was simply saying that you can blend in and even admire Africans.  Anybody that has ever been to Jamaica will attest to that.  I have been to Via and Maypen, how deep is that?

safariman:
^^
I have been to Spanish Town, Montego Bay, Clarendon etc and as African American, there is no way to distinguish between a visitor and resident
Go to Accra and tell me your experience whether visiting and/or GUARDED

MzDarkSkin:
First of all I know Geography well. I am not ignorant to the fact that Africa is a continent however I said Africa because it is not just Nigerians who think ill of Jamaicans. And if you seriously believe KINGSTON a city in Jamaica (not the whole TINY island btw) has a higher murder rate than any African country you are sadly misinformed. Dudus didnt fight anyone he was running, it was his community a SMALL community in Jamaica that was trying to barr the army from infiltrating and getting him. You are right she should not have compared the two after all a running coward like Dudus' situation is hardly the same as a murderous warlord seeking and being GRANTED assylum in a "stable" country.

MzDarkSkin:
Gully is more known than Gaza 

Second she didn't lie about Nigeria in her article, I love Nigerians but some of you have shown us no mercy with the insults on this site, in articles and in person. it's just a taste of the bitter medicine. and Lastly who is Dudus compared to some of Africa's biggest warlords? Dudus is some punk living off of his adopted father's name. He's a nobody compared to someone who commited genocide and extortion! Stones should not be thrown on either sides however, I am not going to stand for one sidedness. I wont tolerate it. Hate me for it, your problem.

THE AMAKA:
OMG! YOU'RE A REAL FOOL! WHO CARES WHERE IDRIS IS FROM. AS LONG AS HE IS NOT FROM GHANA, DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
you're the one here making a big deal cause you're too slow to understand that i acknowledged when you corrected me about his citizenship.
whether British or American, whats the difference?
also. . . who cares where Boris is from, the same still goes for him. why are you making an issue out of nothing when there is no difference in the end?
you're the one here flogging a dead horse.
what a dunce.

and your joke is so old and state. hahahahahahaha. copy copy, paste paste.

THE AMAKA:
DUH!!! you're a real fool.
i said Boris and Idris were both American, you corrected me by saying Idris is British.
and i said IT DIDN'T MATTER! whether British or American, your logic still says they are not Ghanaian. so whats the difference?
dude, are you slow or something?

THE AMAKA:
so he IS a Ghanaian, OMG!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

for one, I don't remember anyone saying she was any less Ghanaian, we are just acknowledging her Nigerian side.

I'm sure you still see Boris Kojo and Idris Elba as Ghanaians too, right?
well according to your logic, they are Americans and not Ghanaian.

besides, there are many anti-Nigerians on this website (including you) 
and that comment was necessary because? you see what i mean?
get your exposed behind off of here.

THE AMAKA:
so he IS a Ghanaian, OMG!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

for one, I don't remember anyone saying she was any less Ghanaian, we are just acknowledging her Nigerian side.

I'm sure you still see Boris Kojo and Idris Elba as Ghanaians too, right?
well according to your logic, they are Americans and not Ghanaian.

besides, there are many anti-Nigerians on this website (including you) 
and that comment was necessary because? you see what i mean?
get your exposed behind off of here.

rhymz:
You Ghanaians and your self-righteousness, who gives an "F" what you are here for? You bunch are same ol, same ol. . .always looking for an avenue to talk abt yourselves in a way that puts otherz in a bad light. I would not ve known you were Ghanaian if you had not shown your streaks. I saw your demeaning response to  Londoner's statement that she was half Nigerian, you made it sound like she was making a wild guess with no factual basis. Or don't you find it curious that inspite of your claim, she has no Ghanaian name to her names? Instead she chose an English name and an Igbo name ( which is Nigerian) plus her surname which is also igbo. Why wont any Nigerian have problem with a report that addresses her as wholly Ghanaian yet she has Nigerian names and no Ghanaian names? And to answer your question about Nadia Buari, I say it is Ok to address her as a Ghanaian as long as it is Ok to address Yvonne Chinyere Okoro as a Nigerian-Ghanaian, am sure Nadia wont deny her other lineage when push turns to shove. Now go to sleep and stop taking panadole for sb else's headache. . . Na wa for all these charly boys sef
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Nayah:
lol benny beauty is relative, I've seen jackie in a movie where she was called "Samira" who married a christian guy while she was muslim, and another movie with Omotola in the role of her  wicked old -in law and in these two movie Jackie was stunning. Npw I'm not talking about her accent or something but just about her presence and beautiful face, anyway everyone has its own tastes no? but this Yvonne rocks too of course

londoner:
Thanks, lol

Sometimes we just have to cut the crap. Imagine him writing a essay trying to convince us and himself he was coming from a place different from the usual xenophobia/dislike of Nigerians.

He is fooling no one!

ibkaye:
She is half Nigerian, get over it. Lol